Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Max]

What I am interested in is increased safety and efficacy of CS after 
capping it with organic substances, which include herb extracts and even 
sugar.  This is relevant to inhaling CS for covid.  However, nobody 
seems to want to take up the investigation.


Meanwhile

Real-world data from areas with high COVID jab rates show the complete 
converse of what media, the CDC and White House officials are telling us.



    Aug.1, 2021, director of Israel’s Public Health Services, Dr. 
Sharon Alroy-Preis, announced half of all COVID-19 infections were among 
the fully vaccinated. Signs of more serious disease among fully 
vaccinated are also emerging, she said, particularly in those over the 
age of 60.


 Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem, 
reported  that 95% of severely ill COVID-19 patients are fully 
vaccinated, and that they make up 85% to 90% of COVID-related 
hospitalizations overall. As of Aug. 2, 66.9% of Israelis had received 
at least one dose of Pfizer’s injection, which is used exclusively in 
Israel; 62.2% had received two doses.


    In Scotland, official data on hospitalizations and deaths show 87% 
of those who have died from COVID-19 in the third wave that began in 
early July were vaccinated.


    A CDC investigation of an outbreak in Barnstable County, 
Massachusetts, between July 6 through July 25, found 74% of those who 
received a diagnosis of COVID19, and 80% of hospitalizations, were among 
the fully vaccinated.


The CDC also found that fully vaccinated individuals who contract the 
infection have as high a viral load in their nasal passages as 
unvaccinated individuals who get infected. This means the vaccinated are 
just as infectious as the unvaccinated.


    In Gibraltar, which has a 99% COVID jab compliance rate, COVID 
cases have risen by 2,500% since June 1.



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Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Max]

One of my favorite doctors and educators, Dr Syed Mobeen, looks at 
vaxxed vs unvaxxed.  It appears to me deaths are about 24 times higher 
in the unvaxxed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUNquedzjWM

Thats not enough data for me to go get vaccinated though.  The average 
age of death in any case is about the same as the average lifespan. Also 
the data counted totally vaccinated but for less than two weeks as 
unvaccinated.  Other data shows a spike in deaths soon after being 
vaccinated, as it seems to reduce your immunity in some way.  Dr Mobeen 
also notes that if Ivermectin were used there would be few deaths in the 
unvaccinated as well.


Also, the vaccine efficiency is quickly reducing, and is reported as low 
as 48%.  This means, and it is well publicized, that Pharma is happily 
gearing up for 'top up' vaccines, which may be yearly or even twice 
yearly.  Naturally derived immunity appears more robust, which is 
logical.  Then there is the issue of antibody disease enhancement, so 
the vaccinated may have a worse response to future illness.


Also, 25% to 75% of deaths occur to people living in long term care 
facilities.  The lesson may be to keep out of long care facilities and 
dont grow old.  I guess If I was living in one, and wanted to squeeze 
the most days out of my miserable life, I might choose to vaccinate.


Regarding the rise in cases in florida and the southern states and the 
media spin on this, one has to compare the stringency of lockdown and 
the vaccination rate.


for example 
https://www.bsg.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2021-05/BSG-WP-2020-034-v3.pdf


Take a look at pages 16, 21 and 22.  I dont see large differences in 
either disease severity or even lockdown stringency.  I dont see a 
correlation of lockdown stringency to the epidemic curve. One can do 
this for vaccination rate also.  Florida is about 25th out of 50 
states.  It would be very hard to make the argument that an unusually 
low vaccination rate was responsible for the wave in Florida.


Max

On 8/16/2021 2:25 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
Geographical yes! It's mostly red states, places where people won't 
get vaccinated. Pay attention!


This is what you all are causing.
https://twitter.com/ReportsDaNews/status/1427095135704305665 



On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM Max > wrote:


Anyone interested in the truth must find the list of vaccination
rate and lockdown stringency  and compare this to cases and
deaths.  The news piece cited below tries to spin the story but
the effect of increased cases appears to be geographical, for
whatever reason, and has no relation to vaccination rate of
lockdown stringency.  I have looked at this data

Someone said;  theres only two types of people in the world; those
who have had covid, and those who are going to get covid.   We
will see how that plays out for New Zealand.  But the normal
situation is for respiratory viruses to become more infectious but
less deadly, so the zero covid countries may actually save some
lives in the long run.  However, vaccination is driving the
evolution of variants.  This is good news for big pharma, who
stand to make billions on bi annual covid vaccinations

max

On 8/15/2021 4:07 PM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:

Here you go! I know you all love Youtube videos.
https://youtu.be/VbNy8lnv0kw 

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Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Geographical yes! It's mostly red states, places where people won't get
vaccinated. Pay attention!

This is what you all are causing.
https://twitter.com/ReportsDaNews/status/1427095135704305665

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM Max  wrote:

> Anyone interested in the truth must find the list of vaccination rate and
> lockdown stringency  and compare this to cases and deaths.  The news piece
> cited below tries to spin the story but the effect of increased cases
> appears to be geographical, for whatever reason, and has no relation to
> vaccination rate of lockdown stringency.  I have looked at this data
>
> Someone said;  theres only two types of people in the world; those who
> have had covid, and those who are going to get covid.   We will see how
> that plays out for New Zealand.  But the normal situation is for
> respiratory viruses to become more infectious but less deadly, so the zero
> covid countries may actually save some lives in the long run.  However,
> vaccination is driving the evolution of variants.  This is good news for
> big pharma, who stand to make billions on bi annual covid vaccinations
>
> max
> On 8/15/2021 4:07 PM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
>
> Here you go! I know you all love Youtube videos.
> https://youtu.be/VbNy8lnv0kw
>
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>
>

Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Max]

Anyone interested in the truth must find the list of vaccination rate
and lockdown stringency  and compare this to cases and deaths.  The news
piece cited below tries to spin the story but the effect of increased
cases appears to be geographical, for whatever reason, and has no
relation to vaccination rate of lockdown stringency.  I have looked at
this data

Someone said;  theres only two types of people in the world; those who
have had covid, and those who are going to get covid. We will see how
that plays out for New Zealand.  But the normal situation is for
respiratory viruses to become more infectious but less deadly, so the
zero covid countries may actually save some lives in the long run. 
However, vaccination is driving the evolution of variants.  This is good
news for big pharma, who stand to make billions on bi annual covid
vaccinations

max

On 8/15/2021 4:07 PM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:

Here you go! I know you all love Youtube videos.
https://youtu.be/VbNy8lnv0kw 

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Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Max]

Ed

I acknowledge your points, i.e. possible vaccine induced brain damage, 
propaganda effort (game), intent to drive readers to her friends group, 
an idea new to me (which friend, what group?), and the damage to this 
group.  My intent is to provide data for anyone interested, regardless 
of which discussion motivated me to dig up data.  It is largely 
preaching to the choir, but hopefully some of the info will be 
disseminated to the wider population, which is in the grips of mass 
hysteria and propaganda.   I dont see the damage you are concerned about


Thanks

Max

On 8/15/2021 12:26 PM, Ed wrote:


Please don't reply to the brain damaged person here, its simple to see 
the jab has gone to her brain, if there was one once- but this game of 
hers is not good for this group-  she just wants to have others to 
move to her friends group- and we all have to see this none sense- 
thank you for no more replys to the handicapped, brain deprived, 
vaccinated


On 8/15/2021 11:54 AM, Max wrote:


check out the death rate soaring subsequent to vaccination in Israel

https://twitter.com/OutsideAllan/status/1426952642396295169/photo/2

On 8/15/2021 10:30 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
If it didn't stop covid the hospitals would be filled with both 
vaccinated and unvaccinated and they are not. The hospitals are 
filling up with just the unvaccinated and unfortunately that 
includes our children, with some places not having pediatric 
facilities open at all.  By ignoring the truth you are causing 
children to die. It's all on you!


You won't accept major news outlets but listen to shady characters 
on Youtube and proven liars like Mike from natural news.


The only shot where blood clots were an issue was the Astra Zeneca 
and that one isn't even given out in the US where I am. Can you say 
Astra Zenica? The Johnson and Johnson vaccine had 6 cases of blood 
clots out of 6.8 MILLION shots. That means they probably would have 
happened anyway with no shots at all.


So 6 out of many millions is too many? I'm not worried. It would 
have happened by now and it didn't.


You haven't proven anything so far.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:44 AM pal joey > wrote:


Too late, Cyndiann; too many cases show that the clotshot aka
"vaccine " , doesn't prevent new infection, but does show that
it undermines your immune system, as well as blood disorders. 
You should get the d-dimer test, and tell us the results. Then,
you might get help. I bet no one here takes any one
practitioners words as Gospel, the way you and the NYTs would
have us believe,  but info is sifted and assessed by research.
We were warned catastrophe was about to happen, and now it is.
Now we know our sources were correct, because we didn't dismiss
them out of hand, to satisfy the NYTs.

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Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Here you go! I know you all love Youtube videos.
https://youtu.be/VbNy8lnv0kw

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 6:21 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> Who made you king? The others can make up their own minds. Ready to be
> charged with killing your family?
>
> Have some pity on the doctors and nurses that are so burnt out from
> treating the ones not smart enough to protect themselves.
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:27 PM Ed  wrote:
>
>> Please don't reply to the brain damaged person here, its simple to see
>> the jab has gone to her brain, if there was one once- but this game of hers
>> is not good for this group-  she just wants to have others to move to her
>> friends group- and we all have to see this none sense- thank you for no
>> more replys to the handicapped, brain deprived, vaccinated
>> On 8/15/2021 11:54 AM, Max wrote:
>>
>> check out the death rate soaring subsequent to vaccination in Israel
>>
>> https://twitter.com/OutsideAllan/status/1426952642396295169/photo/2
>> On 8/15/2021 10:30 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
>>
>> If it didn't stop covid the hospitals would be filled with both
>> vaccinated and unvaccinated and they are not. The hospitals are filling up
>> with just the unvaccinated and unfortunately that includes our children,
>> with some places not having pediatric facilities open at all.  By ignoring
>> the truth you are causing children to die. It's all on you!
>>
>> You won't accept major news outlets but listen to shady characters on
>> Youtube and proven liars like Mike from natural news.
>>
>> The only shot where blood clots were an issue was the Astra Zeneca and
>> that one isn't even given out in the US where I am. Can you say Astra
>> Zenica? The Johnson and Johnson vaccine had 6 cases of blood clots out of
>> 6.8 MILLION shots. That means they probably would have happened anyway with
>> no shots at all.
>>
>> So 6 out of many millions is too many? I'm not worried. It would have
>> happened by now and it didn't.
>>
>> You haven't proven anything so far.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:44 AM pal joey  wrote:
>>
>>> Too late, Cyndiann; too many cases show that the clotshot aka "vaccine "
>>> , doesn't prevent new infection, but does show that it undermines your
>>> immune system, as well as blood disorders.  You should get the d-dimer
>>> test, and tell us the results. Then, you might get help. I bet no one here
>>> takes any one practitioners words as Gospel, the way you and the NYTs would
>>> have us believe,  but info is sifted and assessed by research. We were
>>> warned catastrophe was about to happen, and now it is. Now we know our
>>> sources were correct, because we didn't dismiss them out of hand, to
>>> satisfy the NYTs.
>>>
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Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Max]

check out the death rate soaring subsequent to vaccination in Israel

https://twitter.com/OutsideAllan/status/1426952642396295169/photo/2

On 8/15/2021 10:30 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
If it didn't stop covid the hospitals would be filled with both 
vaccinated and unvaccinated and they are not. The hospitals are 
filling up with just the unvaccinated and unfortunately that includes 
our children, with some places not having pediatric facilities open at 
all.  By ignoring the truth you are causing children to die. It's all 
on you!


You won't accept major news outlets but listen to shady characters on 
Youtube and proven liars like Mike from natural news.


The only shot where blood clots were an issue was the Astra Zeneca and 
that one isn't even given out in the US where I am. Can you say Astra 
Zenica? The Johnson and Johnson vaccine had 6 cases of blood clots out 
of 6.8 MILLION shots. That means they probably would have happened 
anyway with no shots at all.


So 6 out of many millions is too many? I'm not worried. It would have 
happened by now and it didn't.


You haven't proven anything so far.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:44 AM pal joey > wrote:


Too late, Cyndiann; too many cases show that the clotshot aka
"vaccine " , doesn't prevent new infection, but does show that it
undermines your immune system, as well as blood disorders.  You
should get the d-dimer test, and tell us the results. Then, you
might get help. I bet no one here takes any one practitioners
words as Gospel, the way you and the NYTs would have us believe, 
but info is sifted and assessed by research. We were warned
catastrophe was about to happen, and now it is. Now we know our
sources were correct, because we didn't dismiss them out of hand,
to satisfy the NYTs.

Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Who made you king? The others can make up their own minds. Ready to be
charged with killing your family?

Have some pity on the doctors and nurses that are so burnt out from
treating the ones not smart enough to protect themselves.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:27 PM Ed  wrote:

> Please don't reply to the brain damaged person here, its simple to see the
> jab has gone to her brain, if there was one once- but this game of hers is
> not good for this group-  she just wants to have others to move to her
> friends group- and we all have to see this none sense- thank you for no
> more replys to the handicapped, brain deprived, vaccinated
> On 8/15/2021 11:54 AM, Max wrote:
>
> check out the death rate soaring subsequent to vaccination in Israel
>
> https://twitter.com/OutsideAllan/status/1426952642396295169/photo/2
> On 8/15/2021 10:30 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
>
> If it didn't stop covid the hospitals would be filled with both vaccinated
> and unvaccinated and they are not. The hospitals are filling up with just
> the unvaccinated and unfortunately that includes our children, with some
> places not having pediatric facilities open at all.  By ignoring the truth
> you are causing children to die. It's all on you!
>
> You won't accept major news outlets but listen to shady characters on
> Youtube and proven liars like Mike from natural news.
>
> The only shot where blood clots were an issue was the Astra Zeneca and
> that one isn't even given out in the US where I am. Can you say Astra
> Zenica? The Johnson and Johnson vaccine had 6 cases of blood clots out of
> 6.8 MILLION shots. That means they probably would have happened anyway with
> no shots at all.
>
> So 6 out of many millions is too many? I'm not worried. It would have
> happened by now and it didn't.
>
> You haven't proven anything so far.
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:44 AM pal joey  wrote:
>
>> Too late, Cyndiann; too many cases show that the clotshot aka "vaccine "
>> , doesn't prevent new infection, but does show that it undermines your
>> immune system, as well as blood disorders.  You should get the d-dimer
>> test, and tell us the results. Then, you might get help. I bet no one here
>> takes any one practitioners words as Gospel, the way you and the NYTs would
>> have us believe,  but info is sifted and assessed by research. We were
>> warned catastrophe was about to happen, and now it is. Now we know our
>> sources were correct, because we didn't dismiss them out of hand, to
>> satisfy the NYTs.
>>
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Re: CS> vax vs mort

[Ed]

  
  
Please don't reply to the brain damaged person here, its simple
  to see the jab has gone to her brain, if there was one once- but
  this game of hers is not good for this group-  she just wants to
  have others to move to her friends group- and we all have to see
  this none sense- thank you for no more replys to the handicapped,
  brain deprived, vaccinated

On 8/15/2021 11:54 AM, Max wrote:


  
  check out the death rate soaring subsequent to vaccination in
Israel
  https://twitter.com/OutsideAllan/status/1426952642396295169/photo/2
  
  On 8/15/2021 10:30 AM, Cyndiann
Phillips wrote:
  
  

If it didn't stop covid the hospitals would be
  filled with both vaccinated and unvaccinated and they are not.
  The hospitals are filling up with just the unvaccinated and
  unfortunately that includes our children, with some places not
  having pediatric facilities open at all.  By ignoring the
  truth you are causing children to die. It's all on you!
  
  
  You won't accept major news outlets but listen to shady
characters on Youtube and proven liars like Mike from
natural news.
  
  
  The only shot where blood clots were an issue was the
Astra Zeneca and that one isn't even given out in the US
where I am. Can you say Astra Zenica? The Johnson and
Johnson vaccine had 6 cases of blood clots out of 6.8
MILLION shots. That means they probably would have happened
anyway with no shots at all.
  
  
  So 6 out of many millions is too many? I'm not worried.
It would have happened by now and it didn't.
  
  
  You haven't proven anything so far.



  On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at
11:44 AM pal joey  wrote:
  
  
Too late, Cyndiann; too many cases show that
  the clotshot aka "vaccine " , doesn't prevent new
  infection, but does show that it undermines your
  immune system, as well as blood disorders.  You should get
  the d-dimer test, and tell us the results. Then, you might
  get help. I bet no one here takes any one practitioners
  words as Gospel, the way you and the NYTs would have us
  believe,  but info is sifted and assessed by research. We
  were warned catastrophe was about to happen, and now it
  is. Now we know our sources were correct, because we
  didn't dismiss them out of hand, to satisfy the NYTs. 
  

  

  



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