Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[Malcolm]

Yes, that and the sugar hit to the starving tissues depleted  by the
injured circulatory system.  This is why sugar (honey) not salt worked
in this protocol; they were not curing meat, but trying to repair and
rejuvenate severely deprived tissues.
Take care,
Malcolm

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 16:24 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> Same results were reported with using sugar as the packing.
> I think it has to do with the drying or absorption effect of sugar
> (and honey).
> 
>   Chuck
> As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he were ever to break wind
> in the sound chamber he would never hear the end of it.
> 
> On 11/19/2009 1:12:22 AM, Malcolm (s...@asis.com) wrote:
> > Here's a little info contrary to the drift of the honey botulinum
> > notion; post-WWI paralyzed vets often got bed-sores, sometimes now
> > called pressure ulcers.  One of the few effective treatments for the
> > condition was to clean the injury then cover with honey and a bandage.
> > 
> > It worked, not 100% but better than anything else.  The explanation was
> > that honey was sterile, prevented infection (acting as a preservative,
> > which it still does when at proper concentration - and that's
> > what the
> > bees do, they fan the hive until the honey is concentrated enough to
> > resist any spoilage) and the sugar fed the underlying flesh where
> > circulation had been damaged, allowing the body to repair itself and
> > regrow the necessary blood vessels and capillaries.  Much commercial
> > honey is not only heated, but diluted with water to the point where it
> > is no longer capable of killing bugs.
> > 
> > Dr. R. O. Becker has discussed the use of CS for healing stubborn
> > diabetes sores, even gangrenous ones.  See: The Body Electric
> > 
> > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 18:20 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> > > one of the main "benefits" of raw honey is active enzymes.
> > > Hot tea (~200 degrees) makes the honey "not raw" and the enzymes are
> > > destroyed.
> > 
> 
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[Fwd: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum] sugar packs

[Saralou]

Re sugar packs

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum
Date:   Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:59:07 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com



Or it may be some mechanism in addition to the enzymes in honey that 
promotes healing. I suspect old timers were more concerned with the 
cleaning the dirt and bugs and crud from their honey than preserving 
enzymes.  What a discovery it must have been to figure out how to clean 
it, or melt it once crystallized. There may have been a few people who 
recognized the difference between fresh from the comb and cleaned but I 
wonder. Wonder if mummies have cleaned or dirty honey and if we can 
tell--it's not like they didn't have access to heating it 4000+ years ago.


Sugar, granulated, and saline or antibiotic stuff  has also been used  
to pack wounds and promote healing. 


   Sugar and honey were probably used as dressing about 4000 years ago.
   There has been renewed interest recently in their use in wound
   management, particularly in infected wounds. They appear to exert
   their effects on wound healing due to their high osmolarity which
   prevents certain bacteria from growing. In the case of honey, the
   low pH and the presence of antibacterial substances also has an
   effect. Granulated sugar is not the ideal form of sugar to use as it
   may produce an intense burning sensation when applied directly to an
   open wound as it draws up wound exudate. The use of a sugar paste is
   recommended to prevent this. In this form it also keeps the wound
   bed moist thereby promoting the natural healing process. There is a
   reasonable amount of research around at the moment about sugar paste
   and honey use and there is a very interesting article in SMTL's
   Dressings Times recounting the experience of sugar paste use in
   Zanzibar.

   Cooper, R. and Molan, P. (1999) The use of honey as an antiseptic in
   managing Pseudomonas infection. Journal of Wound Care 8(4), 161-164.

   Miller, M. and Glover, D. (1999) Wound Management. Nursing Times
   Books, London

FWIW, Saralou

Research Sources
http://www.smtl.co.uk/WMPRC/DressingsTimes/vol3.2.txt
//www.smtl.co.uk/HyperNews/wounds-archive.html ...1/4 and 3/4 down 
.also interesting info re povidone in wounds

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//communities.mercola.com/forums/t/100954.aspx
//74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:k3AWKDwLK1wJ:www.ncaquariums.com/newssum06.pdf+%22pack+wound%22+granulated+sugar&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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Malcolm wrote:

Here's a little info contrary to the drift of the honey botulinum
notion; post-WWI paralyzed vets often got bed-sores, sometimes now
called pressure ulcers.  One of the few effective treatments for the
condition was to clean the injury then cover with honey and a bandage.

It worked, not 100% but better than anything else.  The explanation was
that honey was sterile, prevented infection (acting as a preservative,
which it still does when at proper concentration - and that's what the
bees do, they fan the hive until the honey is concentrated enough to
resist any spoilage) and the sugar fed the underlying flesh where
circulation had been damaged, allowing the body to repair itself and
regrow the necessary blood vessels and capillaries.  Much commercial
honey is not only heated, but diluted with water to the point where it
is no longer capable of killing bugs.  


Dr. R. O. Becker has discussed the use of CS for healing stubborn
diabetes sores, even gangrenous ones.  See: The Body Electric 


On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 18:20 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
  

one of the main "benefits" of raw honey is active enzymes.
Hot tea (~200 degrees) makes the honey "not raw" and the enzymes are
destroyed.

Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[Saralou]

I sent a post about sugar this morning but haven't seen it turn up on 
the list yet.  Saralou.



cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Same results were reported with using sugar as the packing.
I think it has to do with the drying or absorption effect of sugar
(and honey).

Chuck
As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he were ever to break wind
in the sound chamber he would never hear the end of it.

On 11/19/2009 1:12:22 AM, Malcolm (s...@asis.com) wrote:
  

Here's a little info contrary to the drift of the honey botulinum
notion; post-WWI paralyzed vets often got bed-sores, sometimes now
called pressure ulcers.  One of the few effective treatments for the
condition was to clean the injury then cover with honey and a bandage.

It worked, not 100% but better than anything else.  The explanation was
that honey was sterile, prevented infection (acting as a preservative,
which it still does when at proper concentration - and that's
what the
bees do, they fan the hive until the honey is concentrated enough to
resist any spoilage) and the sugar fed the underlying flesh where
circulation had been damaged, allowing the body to repair itself and
regrow the necessary blood vessels and capillaries.  Much commercial
honey is not only heated, but diluted with water to the point where it
is no longer capable of killing bugs.

Dr. R. O. Becker has discussed the use of CS for healing stubborn
diabetes sores, even gangrenous ones.  See: The Body Electric

On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 18:20 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


one of the main "benefits" of raw honey is active enzymes.
Hot tea (~200 degrees) makes the honey "not raw" and the enzymes are
destroyed.
  



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Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[cking001]

Same results were reported with using sugar as the packing.
I think it has to do with the drying or absorption effect of sugar
(and honey).

Chuck
As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he were ever to break wind
in the sound chamber he would never hear the end of it.

On 11/19/2009 1:12:22 AM, Malcolm (s...@asis.com) wrote:
> Here's a little info contrary to the drift of the honey botulinum
> notion; post-WWI paralyzed vets often got bed-sores, sometimes now
> called pressure ulcers.  One of the few effective treatments for the
> condition was to clean the injury then cover with honey and a bandage.
> 
> It worked, not 100% but better than anything else.  The explanation was
> that honey was sterile, prevented infection (acting as a preservative,
> which it still does when at proper concentration - and that's
> what the
> bees do, they fan the hive until the honey is concentrated enough to
> resist any spoilage) and the sugar fed the underlying flesh where
> circulation had been damaged, allowing the body to repair itself and
> regrow the necessary blood vessels and capillaries.  Much commercial
> honey is not only heated, but diluted with water to the point where it
> is no longer capable of killing bugs.
> 
> Dr. R. O. Becker has discussed the use of CS for healing stubborn
> diabetes sores, even gangrenous ones.  See: The Body Electric
> 
> On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 18:20 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> > one of the main "benefits" of raw honey is active enzymes.
> > Hot tea (~200 degrees) makes the honey "not raw" and the enzymes are
> > destroyed.
> 


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Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[Saralou]

Or it may be some mechanism in addition to the enzymes in honey that 
promotes healing. I suspect old timers were more concerned with the 
cleaning the dirt and bugs and crud from their honey than preserving 
enzymes.  What a discovery it must have been to figure out how to clean 
it, or melt it once crystallized. There may have been a few people who 
recognized the difference between fresh from the comb and cleaned but I 
wonder. Wonder if mummies have cleaned or dirty honey and if we can 
tell--it's not like they didn't have access to heating it 4000+ years ago.


Sugar, granulated, and saline or antibiotic stuff  has also been used  
to pack wounds and promote healing. 


   Sugar and honey were probably used as dressing about 4000 years ago.
   There has been renewed interest recently in their use in wound
   management, particularly in infected wounds. They appear to exert
   their effects on wound healing due to their high osmolarity which
   prevents certain bacteria from growing. In the case of honey, the
   low pH and the presence of antibacterial substances also has an
   effect. Granulated sugar is not the ideal form of sugar to use as it
   may produce an intense burning sensation when applied directly to an
   open wound as it draws up wound exudate. The use of a sugar paste is
   recommended to prevent this. In this form it also keeps the wound
   bed moist thereby promoting the natural healing process. There is a
   reasonable amount of research around at the moment about sugar paste
   and honey use and there is a very interesting article in SMTL's
   Dressings Times recounting the experience of sugar paste use in
   Zanzibar.

   Cooper, R. and Molan, P. (1999) The use of honey as an antiseptic in
   managing Pseudomonas infection. Journal of Wound Care 8(4), 161-164.

   Miller, M. and Glover, D. (1999) Wound Management. Nursing Times
   Books, London

FWIW, Saralou

Research Sources
http://www.smtl.co.uk/WMPRC/DressingsTimes/vol3.2.txt
//www.smtl.co.uk/HyperNews/wounds-archive.html ...1/4 and 3/4 down 
.also interesting info re povidone in wounds

//news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=20071002&id=29IJIBAJ&sjid=wkkDIBAJ&pg=7049,3170951
//communities.mercola.com/forums/t/100954.aspx
//74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:k3AWKDwLK1wJ:www.ncaquariums.com/newssum06.pdf+%22pack+wound%22+granulated+sugar&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
://www.pages.drexel.edu/~sek54/652/subistory.html
://hubpages.com/hub/httpwwwhubpagescomhubTheOldWaysofTreatingConditionsAilmentsWeretheBest





Malcolm wrote:

Here's a little info contrary to the drift of the honey botulinum
notion; post-WWI paralyzed vets often got bed-sores, sometimes now
called pressure ulcers.  One of the few effective treatments for the
condition was to clean the injury then cover with honey and a bandage.

It worked, not 100% but better than anything else.  The explanation was
that honey was sterile, prevented infection (acting as a preservative,
which it still does when at proper concentration - and that's what the
bees do, they fan the hive until the honey is concentrated enough to
resist any spoilage) and the sugar fed the underlying flesh where
circulation had been damaged, allowing the body to repair itself and
regrow the necessary blood vessels and capillaries.  Much commercial
honey is not only heated, but diluted with water to the point where it
is no longer capable of killing bugs.  


Dr. R. O. Becker has discussed the use of CS for healing stubborn
diabetes sores, even gangrenous ones.  See: The Body Electric 


On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 18:20 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
  

one of the main "benefits" of raw honey is active enzymes.
Hot tea (~200 degrees) makes the honey "not raw" and the enzymes are
destroyed.

Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[Malcolm]

Here's a little info contrary to the drift of the honey botulinum
notion; post-WWI paralyzed vets often got bed-sores, sometimes now
called pressure ulcers.  One of the few effective treatments for the
condition was to clean the injury then cover with honey and a bandage.

It worked, not 100% but better than anything else.  The explanation was
that honey was sterile, prevented infection (acting as a preservative,
which it still does when at proper concentration - and that's what the
bees do, they fan the hive until the honey is concentrated enough to
resist any spoilage) and the sugar fed the underlying flesh where
circulation had been damaged, allowing the body to repair itself and
regrow the necessary blood vessels and capillaries.  Much commercial
honey is not only heated, but diluted with water to the point where it
is no longer capable of killing bugs.  

Dr. R. O. Becker has discussed the use of CS for healing stubborn
diabetes sores, even gangrenous ones.  See: The Body Electric 

On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 18:20 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> one of the main "benefits" of raw honey is active enzymes.
> Hot tea (~200 degrees) makes the honey "not raw" and the enzymes are
> destroyed.

1)  brew tea
2)  let cool to moderate drinking temp.
3)  add honey, lick spoon, stir, and drink.
> 
>   Chuck
> If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as
> cold tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?

Minus thirty two?
> 
> 
> On 11/17/2009 9:30:09 AM, gwms...@optonline.net wrote:
> > Slightly off topic, but I was told by the proprietor of a health food
> > store that raw honey should never be consumed with hot liquids ie, tea. Is
> > this true? And why not
> > 
> > G
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: Day Sutton
> > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:20 am
> > Subject: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > 
> > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/17/This-Bee-
> > Product-Has-Enormous-Benefits-for-Your-Health.aspx
> > >
> > > Processed, refined honey is NOT appropriate for use in wound
> > > care. In fact,
> > > your average domestic “Grade A” type honey found in the grocery
> > > store will
> > > likely *increase *infection. It also will not offer you the same
> > > healthbenefits as raw honey when consumed.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten <
> > > jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was quite surprised to learn recently that honey is a
> > > primary source of
> > > > botulism, especially in children.
> > I'd never heard this until now.
> > > > Doctors recommend that infants NEVER receive honey. It's
> > useful
> > > > information to pass along.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The
> 
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Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[cking001]

one of the main "benefits" of raw honey is active enzymes.
Hot tea (~200 degrees) makes the honey "not raw" and the enzymes are
destroyed.

Chuck
If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as
cold tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?


On 11/17/2009 9:30:09 AM, gwms...@optonline.net wrote:
> Slightly off topic, but I was told by the proprietor of a health food
> store that raw honey should never be consumed with hot liquids ie, tea. Is
> this true? And why not
> 
> G
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Day Sutton
> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:20 am
> Subject: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/17/This-Bee-
> Product-Has-Enormous-Benefits-for-Your-Health.aspx
> >
> > Processed, refined honey is NOT appropriate for use in wound
> > care. In fact,
> > your average domestic “Grade A” type honey found in the grocery
> > store will
> > likely *increase *infection. It also will not offer you the same
> > healthbenefits as raw honey when consumed.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten <
> > jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp> wrote:
> >
> > > I was quite surprised to learn recently that honey is a
> > primary source of
> > > botulism, especially in children.
> I'd never heard this until now.
> > > Doctors recommend that infants NEVER receive honey. It's
> useful
> > > information to pass along.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The


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Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[lawrence storey]

One reason the health store proprietor might have instructed you not to consume 
honey with hot liquids is that honey is a food and you should never eat food 
and drink liquids at the same time.Secondly, honey,(being a raw "food"),has 
phytonutrients and enzymes which are severly compromised at varying high 
temperatures.

Dr.LStorey:Naturopath,Kineisiologist,Herbalist and Energist(and all 'round nice 
guy)

 
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, gwms...@optonline.net  wrote:


From: gwms...@optonline.net 
Subject: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 9:30 AM



Slightly off topic, but I was told by the proprietor of a health food store 
that raw honey should never be consumed with hot liquids ie, tea.  Is this 
true?  And why not
 
G

- Original Message -
From: Day Sutton 
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:20 am
Subject: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/17/This-Bee-Product-Has-Enormous-Benefits-for-Your-Health.aspx
> 
> Processed, refined honey is NOT appropriate for use in wound 
> care. In fact,
> your average domestic “Grade A” type honey found in the grocery 
> store will
> likely *increase *infection. It also will not offer you the same 
> healthbenefits as raw honey when consumed.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten <
> jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> > I was quite surprised to learn recently that honey is a 
> primary source of
> > botulism, especially in children. I'd never heard this until now.
> > Doctors recommend that infants NEVER receive honey. It's useful
> > information to pass along.
> >
> >
> > --
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> Silver.>
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Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[Del]

Well, sure, you can put it in your tea and I do frequently.
Problem is, by putting it in boiling hot water, you destroy most of the 
delicate nutritional content and make it into something like store bought honey 
that is heated.  Once you heat it, it is no longer "RAW", and no longer conveys 
the benefits of raw honey.

But it still tastes good!

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: gwms...@optonline.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:30 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum


  Slightly off topic, but I was told by the proprietor of a health food store 
that raw honey should never be consumed with hot liquids ie, tea.  Is this 
true?  And why not

  G

  - Original Message -
  From: Day Sutton 
  Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:20 am
  Subject: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com

  > 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/17/This-Bee-Product-Has-Enormous-Benefits-for-Your-Health.aspx
  > 
  > Processed, refined honey is NOT appropriate for use in wound 
  > care. In fact,
  > your average domestic “Grade A” type honey found in the grocery 
  > store will
  > likely *increase *infection. It also will not offer you the same 
  > healthbenefits as raw honey when consumed.
  > 
  > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten <
  > jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp> wrote:
  > 
  > > I was quite surprised to learn recently that honey is a 
  > primary source of
  > > botulism, especially in children. I'd never heard this until now.
  > > Doctors recommend that infants NEVER receive honey. It's useful
  > > information to pass along.
  > >
  > >
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  > Silver.>
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  > 

Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum--OT

[Renee]

Probably in the belief that heat destroys the enzymes in the honey.  Since
most honey, even raw honey, is extracted with SOME heat--and store honey
with high heat--putting it into a hot cup of tea is not going to hurt it
anymore than it already is.  Unless you are putting it into boiling hot tea.
 

If you have a beekeeper in your area, and can get totally unheated honey,
then you may want to keep the honey out of the cup until the temp gets below
 I think it is, 100 degrees.  

Most keepers warm the honey so that it flows better, so they can strain it
from the comb and bottle it.  A few small keepers will simply spin extract
the honey from the comb and bottle, using no heat at all.  This is truly raw
honey.  But most of what you get even in health food stores have been warmed
 supposedly keeping it under a certain temp so that it can still be
considered raw.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
 
Slightly off topic, but I was told by the proprietor of a health food store
that raw honey should never be consumed with hot liquids ie, tea.  Is this
true?  And why not
 

RE: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[Nenah Sylver]

Slightly off topic, but I was told by the proprietor of a health food store
that raw honey should never be consumed with hot liquids ie, tea.  Is this
true?  And why not

==

If honey is heated, the beneficial enzymes in it (along with other
nutrients) are destroyed. It's the same result if you use honey in baking. 

 

Someone I think also mentioned not to feed honey to children. I believe that
this idea is based on a flawed study in Canada. I discuss honey and other
sweeteners in depth in my Rife Handbook.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

& The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

  www.nenahsylver.com 

Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[gwms624]

Slightly off topic, but I was told by the proprietor of a health food store 
that raw honey should never be consumed with hot liquids ie, tea.  Is this 
true?  And why not

G

- Original Message -
From: Day Sutton 
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:20 am
Subject: Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/17/This-Bee-Product-Has-Enormous-Benefits-for-Your-Health.aspx
> 
> Processed, refined honey is NOT appropriate for use in wound 
> care. In fact,
> your average domestic “Grade A” type honey found in the grocery 
> store will
> likely *increase *infection. It also will not offer you the same 
> healthbenefits as raw honey when consumed.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten <
> jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> > I was quite surprised to learn recently that honey is a 
> primary source of
> > botulism, especially in children. I'd never heard this until now.
> > Doctors recommend that infants NEVER receive honey. It's useful
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Re: CS>Honey and Botulinum

[Day Sutton]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/17/This-Bee-Product-Has-Enormous-Benefits-for-Your-Health.aspx

Processed, refined honey is NOT appropriate for use in wound care. In fact,
your average domestic “Grade A” type honey found in the grocery store will
likely *increase *infection. It also will not offer you the same health
benefits as raw honey when consumed.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten <
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp> wrote:

> I was quite surprised to learn recently that honey is a primary source of
> botulism, especially in children.  I'd never heard this until now.
>  Doctors recommend that infants NEVER receive honey.It's useful
> information to pass along.
>
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