Re: CS>Re: [Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.]

2000-06-26 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Lon,

On 26 Jun 00 19:02:11 PDT, lon chapman  wrote:

>How do you put a 'static charger' on a car battery for longer life.

Well, you really don't.  (What you could put on is a "desulfator."
But it costs more than 3 car batteries -- ain't worth it.)

>What is a static charger?

The discussion started out as getting power (presumably for generating
CS) from wires in the ground, the air, etc.

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Robert,

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:35:14 -0400, "Robert Ratliff"
 wrote:

>The Auto industry will be interested in this. They are trying to decide how
>to convert filling stations to charging stations. They will be glad to know
>that there is no need to recharge batteries.

They already know about this (and almost all other forms of charging
batteries).  

The problem is ... cars need 50kW of power to maintain steady cruise
at 70 MPH, and current engine sizes range from 60 to 300 kW (90 to 400
HP).

A modern home with whole-house A/C, an 8kW electric water heater, and
everything else running won't use even 20 kW of power.

That's why the static collectors mentioned (power from the air), solar
systems and anything but the largest wind generators won't cut it for
charging car (or home) batteries.

Of course, homes can be designed to use far less power (solar water
heat, good design of insulation and ventilation, heat exchangers using
underground pipes instead of air, etc.) so they can be run off
battery-based systems.

But cars cannot.

I have solar backup for my CS generator (and can run it off my wind
generators).  :)

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RE: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Robert Ratliff
The Auto industry will be interested in this. They are trying to decide how
to convert filling stations to charging stations. They will be glad to know
that there is no need to recharge batteries.

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff

-Original Message-
From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 5:04 AM
To: silver-list
Subject: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

 Hi all,

Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
 Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we can
follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) Truth !
not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If you
have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.

Bless youBob Lee

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread W.T. Shoultz
Well Bob,  you just popped my bubble.  I was all ready to give this a try
until you added the humidity quotient.  Here on the Emerald Coast (FL
panhandle) we don't see 40% RH until the winter months, and we don't have
many of those.

  W.T.

>  The spark plug method was written about back in 43 in the Popular
Mechanics
> mag.
>
>  Have done it and it works. Need dry air (low humidity) for it to work.
Below
> 40% RH.
>  Damp wet air won't allow a charge to build up. The capacitor is not
required
> but does help.
>
> Bless you   Bob Lee




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CS>Re: [Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.]

2000-06-26 Thread lon chapman
How do you put a 'static charger' on a car battery for longer life.
What is a static charger?
Thanks,
Lon Chapman

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread J.M. Mitchell,Jr.
So, you expected to see something about recharging batteries, eh? You
see, I didn't change the SUBJECT either, to make a point.  I am going
through all of these messages hoping to see something pertinent to the
SUBJECT; instead, I am following conversations at some tea party.  If
you change the subject, please CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Thank you,

Joe Mitchell


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Scharbach
Hehehheheh.   And since you posted this THREE times, does that mean
you've got 6 layers?LOL!!!

Sparrow


Sparrow wrote:
> ... So much latent hostility floating around.
> 
> (VBG) perhaps we can find a conspiracy theory for why this is so? 
> ;~)

I dunno, but I've got my aluminum foil right here! TWO layers! 

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Ted Windsor
Interesting remarks since I put some information about Yohan Grander on the 
list.
If I knew how to do this it would be on the internet, Ill be dammed if I would
allow any government telling me just what information  I can share with people. 
 I
am not a technical person, I just know when something is right and it works, not
very scientific, but then I not sure that their approach is always correct 
either.

Blessings
Ted

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> There are huge currents traveling through the earth at all times.  Makes sense
> to me.  I will give it a try this weekend at the ranch.  Probably need to put
> a full wave bridge on it.
>
> Marshall
>
> "d.linen" wrote:
>
> > I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
> > and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
> > arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
> > battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
> > electronic type person could say this better than I.
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > Tai-Pan wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi all,
> > >
> > > Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
> > >  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we can
> > > follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
> > > battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) Truth !
> > > not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If you
> > > have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> > >
> > > Bless youBob Lee
> > >
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Scharbach
Marshall,

>Typically a coil has the low end of both windings connected together.
Where do
>I connect this point?

To the positive terminal on the battery   (??)

>I am trying t make a schematic of this.  You indicate that the capacitor
should
>connect to ground, then state that nothing but the battery should connnect
to
>ground. :<

I am sorry, this is not something I have tried, so have no experience with
it.
I found it interesting, when I saw it quite a while ago, so kept it in a
folder with
bits and pieces of other odd information.

When it came up on the list, I remembered it, and posted for those who were
interested.

Sparrow

>




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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Sparrow wrote:
> ... So much latent hostility floating around.
> 
> (VBG) perhaps we can find a conspiracy theory for why this is so? 
> ;~)

I dunno, but I've got my aluminum foil right here! TWO layers! 

Thanks for your consideration, all.

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Sparrow wrote:
> ... So much latent hostility floating around.
> 
> (VBG) perhaps we can find a conspiracy theory for why this is so? 
> ;~)

I dunno, but I've got my aluminum foil right here! TWO layers! 

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Sparrow wrote:
> ... So much latent hostility floating around.
> 
> (VBG) perhaps we can find a conspiracy theory for why this is so? 
> ;~)

I dunno, but I've got my aluminum foil right here! TWO layers! 

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:15:02 -0400, Marshall Dudley
 wrote:

>Typically a coil has the low end of both windings connected together.  Where do
>I connect this point?

Oops.  I left that off my description, too.  That has to go to the
ground rod.

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread ROGALTMAN
Bob Lee: Thanks. Roger


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Bob,

What this has to do with CS is a puzzle to me.  :)

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:48:58 -0500, Tai-Pan  wrote:

Getting power from the ground takes a couple of straight runs of wire
about 1/2 mile long.

It's easier to recharge from the air.

It's fairly simple.  You need a mesh "antenna" attached to an
automotive spark coil through a spark plug.  The low voltage side of
the spark coil runs through a diode rectifier, into a battery (fancy
setups use a voltage regulator so the battery won't get over-charged).

The antenna is usually some kind of screening (yup, chicken wire
works) that is supported by two tall poles -- say 30 feet (Channel
Master makes some collapsible poles for TV antennas that work well).
Fasten the screening between the two poles, keeping the bottom at
least 10 feet off the ground for safety.  Of course, use insulators on
the support wires/ropes between the poles and the screening (electric
fence insulators work well).  Make sure the screen can conduct
electricity throughout.

Make a plastic plate (acrylic seems best) with a hole in it large
enough to fit a spark plug -- the plug doesn't have to screw into the
plate, just go through it.  Also, mount an automotive spark coil on
this plate. Mount the plate (making sure it's insulated from the pole)
about 10 feet above the ground on one of the poles.  Install a spark
plug into the hole using 2 washers and 1 nut.

Strip about 2 inches of insulation from a wire and wrap it around the
spark plug threads between the 2 washers.  Connect the other end of
the wire to the screen.   Connect a non-resistive spark plug wire from
the tip of the spark plug to the high-voltage cap of the spark coil.

Run a wire from the low voltage terminal of the spark coil down to a
recifier diode, and from the diode to the positive battery terminal.
Run a wire from the negative battery terminal to a copper pole stuck
into the ground (buried 6 to 8 feet).  

You won't get gobs of power, but you'll get some.  During dry, windy
days you could get several hundred watt-hours of power (with really
big screens you could get kilowatts).

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread d.linen


Tai-Pan wrote:
> 
>  Hi Roger,
> 
>  We used long wires strung out on the field fences (insulated wire) and ran 
> them
> into the barn and chicken house. The fences originated at those buildings so
> there was no wire laying on the ground to get caught in machinery. We had a 
> high
> voltage line running along the property line and the wire was under the high
> voltage lines. We ran several small 40 watt bulbs off of these fence lines. 
> Not
> enough current for motors , but just fine for small light bulbs. They were 
> left
> on all the time.
>  This works by ac current being induced from the high voltage lines into the 
> wire
> strung along the fence. Not to be confused with the spark plug method of using
> static electricity to charge a battery. The static chargers were excellent
> because they provided a high voltage pulse that removed the oxides that build 
> up
> on the battery plates and prevents the battery ever getting a full charge. 
> Thats
> why most car batteries slowly get weaker. Put a static charger on them and 
> they
> will be restored to full use again. (The manufacturers don't want you to know
> this, prefer you buy a new battery). Don't you remember when you could go into
> the neighborhood battery shop and get a good used battery for six bucks and it
> would last for three years or more. Nowadays battery shops aren't allowed 
> anymore
> in the neighborhoods and the ones in zoned areas have so many dumb 
> regulations on
> them they wouldn't even talk to you about a used battery. The better battery
> chargers (read, more expensive) do generate high voltage spikes along with the
> charging current to remove the oxide build up. They even point it out as an
> advertised feature.
>  Back to the fence wire. Some of the fence was further away from the high 
> voltage
> lines and we had to run two wires along side of each other to get more current
> (only connect them at one end, the end with the light bulb). If you needed 
> more
> voltage, just extend the wire longer.
> 
> I recall the power company would send a guy out to drive along the lines 
> looking
> for farmers using free power and he would cut the wire in pieces. We just put 
> it
> back together as soon as he was out of sight. Power company would do that 
> about
> twice a year. They don't do it any more as they now know that the normal line
> radiation losses are many times larger than any loss to your wires. All the
> farmers in our area did this back in the 30's and 40's. Don't know about the
> present, most likely still do. This was also written up in Popular Mechanics 
> long
> ago.

I used to see wires strung along fence lines but didn't know why. Thanks
for the information, Bob. 

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Tai-Pan
 Hi Roger,

 We used long wires strung out on the field fences (insulated wire) and ran them
into the barn and chicken house. The fences originated at those buildings so
there was no wire laying on the ground to get caught in machinery. We had a high
voltage line running along the property line and the wire was under the high
voltage lines. We ran several small 40 watt bulbs off of these fence lines. Not
enough current for motors , but just fine for small light bulbs. They were left
on all the time.
 This works by ac current being induced from the high voltage lines into the 
wire
strung along the fence. Not to be confused with the spark plug method of using
static electricity to charge a battery. The static chargers were excellent
because they provided a high voltage pulse that removed the oxides that build up
on the battery plates and prevents the battery ever getting a full charge. Thats
why most car batteries slowly get weaker. Put a static charger on them and they
will be restored to full use again. (The manufacturers don't want you to know
this, prefer you buy a new battery). Don't you remember when you could go into
the neighborhood battery shop and get a good used battery for six bucks and it
would last for three years or more. Nowadays battery shops aren't allowed 
anymore
in the neighborhoods and the ones in zoned areas have so many dumb regulations 
on
them they wouldn't even talk to you about a used battery. The better battery
chargers (read, more expensive) do generate high voltage spikes along with the
charging current to remove the oxide build up. They even point it out as an
advertised feature.
 Back to the fence wire. Some of the fence was further away from the high 
voltage
lines and we had to run two wires along side of each other to get more current
(only connect them at one end, the end with the light bulb). If you needed more
voltage, just extend the wire longer.

I recall the power company would send a guy out to drive along the lines looking
for farmers using free power and he would cut the wire in pieces. We just put it
back together as soon as he was out of sight. Power company would do that about
twice a year. They don't do it any more as they now know that the normal line
radiation losses are many times larger than any loss to your wires. All the
farmers in our area did this back in the 30's and 40's. Don't know about the
present, most likely still do. This was also written up in Popular Mechanics 
long
ago.

 Bless you Bob Lee

rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

>
>   Bob: Can you provide any references that describe how to put this idea into
> practice on a small scale? If you would rather not say I understand, but I
> don't think the whole world is focussed on our little group. Roger
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Scharbach wrote:

> Sparrow
>
> Here is a reprint from the gentleman that provided the instructions.
> "What Wiley did at the rip old age of 12 or 13 was hook a sparkplug to the
> end of the wire and then run the ground end (where the threads are) into a
> 12 volt coil off an old A model, but any old coil will do. The bottom
> connector of the coil that used to go to the points is hooked to the
> positive side of the battery. The negative side of the battery is hooked to
> a good earth ground and a 1 to 3 KV capacitor (a few microfarad type like
> those found in the horizontal section of a television  chassis) is hooked
> from ground back to the wire where the top of the sparkplug is connected.
> That's it! Nothing should be touching ground except the ground post of the
> battery.

I am trying t make a schematic of this.  You indicate that the capacitor should
connect to ground, then state that nothing but the battery should connnect to
ground. :<

Typically a coil has the low end of both windings connected together.  Where do
I connect this point?

Thanks,

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Sparrow,

 The spark plug method was written about back in 43 in the Popular Mechanics
mag.

 Have done it and it works. Need dry air (low humidity) for it to work. Below
40% RH.
 Damp wet air won't allow a charge to build up. The capacitor is not required
but does help.

Bless you   Bob Lee

Scharbach wrote:

> But I will.Although it does not meet the parameters of Bob's request,
> (ie, I have not tried it myself)
> I thought there was a possibility that someone BESIDES Bob, might be
> interested. . . . . . . . .
>
> Sparrow
>
> Here is a reprint from the gentleman that provided the instructions.
> "What Wiley did at the rip old age of 12 or 13 was hook a sparkplug to the
> end of the wire and then run the ground end (where the threads are) into a
> 12 volt coil off an old A model, but any old coil will do. The bottom
> connector of the coil that used to go to the points is hooked to the
> positive side of the battery. The negative side of the battery is hooked to
> a good earth ground and a 1 to 3 KV capacitor (a few microfarad type like
> those found in the horizontal section of a television  chassis) is hooked
> from ground back to the wire where the top of the sparkplug is connected.
> That's it! Nothing should be touching ground except the ground post of the
> battery. Wiley was using about 200 feet of insulated wire and it will
> completely charge a 12 volt deep cycle every 2 or 3 days! A thousand feet of
> wire will do it a lot quicker but the voltages approach lethal levels.
> What is behind this feat is that a very long wire acts like a capacitor and
> builds a charge on the wire. When a few thousand volts are reached, it will
> discharge by "sparking" across the sparkplug. The sparkplug delivers the
> charge to the coil that down-converts it to a few hundred volts and pulses
> the battery, kind of "squirting" a charge into it. The weather controls how
> much static electricity is in the air. Wind and super cold air seem to
> really make you think you can weld with this thing! I hooked a small neon
> bulb to a full wave loop on winter night when it was snowing with a high
> wind and the bulb burned continuously all night long! The higher you get the
> wire of the ground the better. The wire has to be completely insulated. It
> doesn't seem to make any difference whether you lay it out in a straight
> line or weave it back and forth. Length is the thing here, not size. Old
> phone wire, old coax from the cable company, anything that is insulated and
> long will do the job. I use my Ham radio antennas, as they are up and long
> already. This thing will weld the fillings in your teeth together if you are
> not careful with it! "
>
> >"d.linen" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Bob,
> >>
> >> I won't bother you any more.
> >>
> >> Diane
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Scharbach

Whew!!Thanks for the apology Trem.  I was starting to wonder what the
heck had
happened to this list.   So much latent hostility floating around.

(VBG) perhaps we can find a conspiracy theory for why this is so?  ;~)

Sparrow


>I wish to make a public apology to Diane.  I was rude and offensive and was
>told so in no uncertain terms by my wife when she saw what I said.
>
>I wrote that just after rising and before having my morning cup and was in
>a bit of funk.  Not an excuse.
>
>Please accept my apology Diane.  I'm sorry.
>
>Trem



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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Diane and all,

 Let me in line here and also apologize (take a number boy, darn-- got the
square root of one). While riding the elevator up and down, stepped on some
little toes and then others stepped on some toes, because of my pushing, and
its all my fault. I'm not going to give any excuses, just take the apology from
a red faced guy. Thanks.

Thats why this is such a great list.

  Bless you Bob Lee

Trem wrote:

> I wish to make a public apology to Diane.  I was rude and offensive and was
> told so in no uncertain terms by my wife when she saw what I said.
>
> I wrote that just after rising and before having my morning cup and was in
> a bit of funk.  Not an excuse.
>
> Please accept my apology Diane.  I'm sorry.
>
> Trem
>
> At 10:40 AM 6/26/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Trem wrote:
> >
> >  Bob Lee is right.  Why don't we not conjecture about
> > > something if we don't know.
> >
> >   You're batting zero today.
> >
> >Not entirely. I know how to be nice to people.
> >
> >Zero
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread CKing001
I've noticed that it happens every summer!
Must be stress factors.
Yesterday was our first 90 degrees and REALLY muggy in the northeast.
Chuck

Moriarty killed a clone--Holmes lives!

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:20:16 +, "M. G. Devour"  wrote:

>Hey folks, please be nice! 
>
>Bob's initial display of "attitude" has ticked off a couple of
>people and it's starting to reverberate. Please let's not hurt one 
>another.


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread d.linen
Apology accepted. Thank you Trem. I made big mistakes today and it
probably won't be the last time but I usually learn from them. 

Thanks to your wife too. :) This truly is the best list with the best
people.

Diane

Trem wrote:
> 
> I wish to make a public apology to Diane.  I was rude and offensive and was
> told so in no uncertain terms by my wife when she saw what I said.
> 
> I wrote that just after rising and before having my morning cup and was in
> a bit of funk.  Not an excuse.
> 
> Please accept my apology Diane.  I'm sorry.
> 
> Trem
> 
> At 10:40 AM 6/26/00 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >Trem wrote:
> >
> >  Bob Lee is right.  Why don't we not conjecture about
> > > something if we don't know.
> >
> >   You're batting zero today.
> >
> >Not entirely. I know how to be nice to people.
> >
> >Zero
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Tai-Pan wrote:

> Hi girl,
>
>  Engineers do not speculate, only deal with
> proven facts. Technicians speculate, not engineers.  :-)

Quite the contrary.  Engineers speculate quite a bit if they are any good at
troubleshooting.  When there is a problem you try to figure it out, and if not
successful, speculate as to its cause, then change or remove the speculated 
cause,
and see if it fixes it.

Marshall



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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
There are huge currents traveling through the earth at all times.  Makes sense
to me.  I will give it a try this weekend at the ranch.  Probably need to put
a full wave bridge on it.

Marshall

"d.linen" wrote:

> I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
> and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
> arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
> battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
> electronic type person could say this better than I.
>
> Diane
>
> Tai-Pan wrote:
> >
> >  Hi all,
> >
> > Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
> >  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we can
> > follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
> > battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) Truth !
> > not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If you
> > have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> >
> > Bless youBob Lee
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Trem
I wish to make a public apology to Diane.  I was rude and offensive and was 
told so in no uncertain terms by my wife when she saw what I said.


I wrote that just after rising and before having my morning cup and was in 
a bit of funk.  Not an excuse.


Please accept my apology Diane.  I'm sorry.

Trem


At 10:40 AM 6/26/00 -0500, you wrote:





Trem wrote:

 Bob Lee is right.  Why don't we not conjecture about
> something if we don't know.

  You're batting zero today.

Not entirely. I know how to be nice to people.

Zero


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Hey folks, please be nice! 

Bob's initial display of "attitude" has ticked off a couple of
people and it's starting to reverberate. Please let's not hurt one 
another.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

> Trem wrote:
> 
>  Bob Lee is right.  Why don't we not conjecture about
> > something if we don't know.
> 
>   You're batting zero today.
> 
> Not entirely. I know how to be nice to people.
> 
> Zero

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread d.linen




Trem wrote:

 Bob Lee is right.  Why don't we not conjecture about
> something if we don't know.

  You're batting zero today.

Not entirely. I know how to be nice to people.

Zero


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Trem

At 05:45 AM 6/26/00 -0500, you wrote:



rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

>
> Diane: I read on another list awhile back that a lot of bare wire 
strung out

> in an open field can be statically charged by the wind then periodically
> discharged like a capacitor to produce electrical power. I was wondering if
> anyone has first hand experience with such a setup? Roger

I think the wind is a problem for ham radio antennas too. They have to
be well grounded.


WRONG!!!   Antennas have to be well INSULATED.  Otherwise the radio 
waves would be grounded and nothing would work.  The grounding is done in 
either the transmitter if one is transmitting or in the receiver if one is 
receiving.



What you said here is probably what I was trying to
remember. I think the earth itself can build up a charge too.


And just what would that charge be in relationship to ground if ground is 
already grounded.  Bob Lee is right.  Why don't we not conjecture about 
something if we don't know.



This is a
sort of Tesla type principle.


And what is the Tesla principle, Diane?  Actually is has to do with 
AC.  Not static electricity.  You're batting zero today.


Trem



Diane


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread CKing001
Yes,
I remember the real engineers at IBM that came down to the technician labs for
help in repairing their home electronics. Technicians also get the job done!
Chuck
The meek are getting ready!

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:48:58 -0500, Tai-Pan  wrote:

>Myself, I'm a retired
>electrical engineer (a real one). Engineers do not speculate, only deal with
>proven facts. Technicians speculate, not engineers.  :-)


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RE: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I am a technician---HVAC.   I do not speculate.  I propose hypotheses as to 
why stuff is doing what it does and perform tests to demonstrate the 
validity of the hypotheses.

Fermi made bets with other engineers and physicists  about whether or not 
the atmosphere would ignite when they popped the first A-bomb.  That's 
pretty speculative. Most engineers I have known are just more arrogant 
about their speculation.  But all generalities of this type have notable 
exceptions.  Like Roger and Bob, of course.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   d.linen [SMTP:li...@flash.net]
Sent:   Monday, June 26, 2000 5:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:        Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

Thank you for this Bob. Obviously you know your electrical "stuff". I
like your statement that technicians speculate, not engineers. About all
I know to do is speculate. ;) But I'm no techie, just a wannabe. I've
taken things apart ever since I can remember to see how they work. When
I was a kid I wasn't always able to get them to work again, however.  I
do somewhat better now. :)

Diane

Tai-Pan wrote:
>
> Hi girl,
>
>  Appreciate your input, however am open for hard data on recharging from 
the
> earth, as some claim. Already know how to recharge from fences and close 
by power
> lines. Thats been done for many years, as far back as the 1920's. :-) As 
a matter
> of fact it costs the power companies millions per year in lost power from 
power
> lines, which radiate energy into nearby space. Any metallic conductor 
close to a
> power line will receive power from the power line. My grandfather built 
the first
> power plant in Iowa and the first power plant in Puerto Rico. The 
original plant
> is still in operation along with the newer construction. Myself, I'm a 
retired
> electrical engineer (a real one). Engineers do not speculate, only deal 
with
> proven facts. Technicians speculate, not engineers.  :-)
>  You are not bothering me, I have saved a lot of valuable info from you 
on disk.
>
>   Bless you Bob Lee
>
> "d.linen" wrote:
>
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > I won't bother you any more.
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > Tai-Pan wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi Diane
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply.
> > > It does not conform to the request.
> > > I appeciate your need to reply to anything that comes along.
> > >
> > >  Bless you  Bob  Lee
> > >
> > > "d.linen" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable 
(insulated?)
> > > > and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
> > > > arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. 
With
> > > > battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
> > > > electronic type person could say this better than I.
> > > >
> > > > Diane
> > > >
> > > > Tai-Pan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the 
earth.
> > > > >  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that 
we can
> > > > > follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed 
the
> > > > > battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) 
Truth !
> > > > > not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. 
If you
> > > > > have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bless youBob Lee
> > > > >
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Scharbach
But I will.Although it does not meet the parameters of Bob's request,
(ie, I have not tried it myself)
I thought there was a possibility that someone BESIDES Bob, might be
interested. . . . . . . . .

Sparrow

Here is a reprint from the gentleman that provided the instructions.
"What Wiley did at the rip old age of 12 or 13 was hook a sparkplug to the
end of the wire and then run the ground end (where the threads are) into a
12 volt coil off an old A model, but any old coil will do. The bottom
connector of the coil that used to go to the points is hooked to the
positive side of the battery. The negative side of the battery is hooked to
a good earth ground and a 1 to 3 KV capacitor (a few microfarad type like
those found in the horizontal section of a television  chassis) is hooked
from ground back to the wire where the top of the sparkplug is connected.
That's it! Nothing should be touching ground except the ground post of the
battery. Wiley was using about 200 feet of insulated wire and it will
completely charge a 12 volt deep cycle every 2 or 3 days! A thousand feet of
wire will do it a lot quicker but the voltages approach lethal levels.
What is behind this feat is that a very long wire acts like a capacitor and
builds a charge on the wire. When a few thousand volts are reached, it will
discharge by "sparking" across the sparkplug. The sparkplug delivers the
charge to the coil that down-converts it to a few hundred volts and pulses
the battery, kind of "squirting" a charge into it. The weather controls how
much static electricity is in the air. Wind and super cold air seem to
really make you think you can weld with this thing! I hooked a small neon
bulb to a full wave loop on winter night when it was snowing with a high
wind and the bulb burned continuously all night long! The higher you get the
wire of the ground the better. The wire has to be completely insulated. It
doesn't seem to make any difference whether you lay it out in a straight
line or weave it back and forth. Length is the thing here, not size. Old
phone wire, old coax from the cable company, anything that is insulated and
long will do the job. I use my Ham radio antennas, as they are up and long
already. This thing will weld the fillings in your teeth together if you are
not careful with it! "



>"d.linen" wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> I won't bother you any more.
>>
>> Diane



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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 6/26/00 6:02:40 AM EST, l...@fbtc.net writes:

<< Engineers do not speculate, only deal with
 proven facts. Technicians speculate, not engineers.  :-) >>

Bob: Speculation is NOT needed for maintaining the status quo; engineers are 
very good at that. Discovery, on the other hand, REQUIRES speculation. It's 
called a working hypothesis. From it, comes procedural planning, equipment 
design, preliminary testing, and data gathering. Finally, a report is written 
so that other professionals can review the conclusions to reject or accept 
the working hypothesis, or, as is most often the case, a recommendation is 
made to have other researchers attempt to duplicate these initial results. 
Roger 


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 6/26/00 6:02:40 AM EST, l...@fbtc.net writes:

<< Hi girl,
 
 
  Appreciate your input, however am open for hard data on recharging from the
 earth, as some claim. Already know how to recharge from fences and close by 
power
 lines. Thats been done for many years, as far back as the 1920's. :-) As a 
matter
 of fact it costs the power companies millions per year in lost power from 
power
 lines, which radiate energy into nearby space. Any metallic conductor close 
to a
 power line will receive power from the power line.

Bob: Can you provide any references that describe how to put this idea into 
practice on a small scale? If you would rather not say I understand, but I 
don't think the whole world is focussed on our little group. Roger

 


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread d.linen
Thank you for this Bob. Obviously you know your electrical "stuff". I
like your statement that technicians speculate, not engineers. About all
I know to do is speculate. ;) But I'm no techie, just a wannabe. I've
taken things apart ever since I can remember to see how they work. When
I was a kid I wasn't always able to get them to work again, however.  I
do somewhat better now. :)

Diane

Tai-Pan wrote:
> 
> Hi girl,
> 
>  Appreciate your input, however am open for hard data on recharging from the
> earth, as some claim. Already know how to recharge from fences and close by 
> power
> lines. Thats been done for many years, as far back as the 1920's. :-) As a 
> matter
> of fact it costs the power companies millions per year in lost power from 
> power
> lines, which radiate energy into nearby space. Any metallic conductor close 
> to a
> power line will receive power from the power line. My grandfather built the 
> first
> power plant in Iowa and the first power plant in Puerto Rico. The original 
> plant
> is still in operation along with the newer construction. Myself, I'm a retired
> electrical engineer (a real one). Engineers do not speculate, only deal with
> proven facts. Technicians speculate, not engineers.  :-)
>  You are not bothering me, I have saved a lot of valuable info from you on 
> disk.
> 
>   Bless you Bob Lee
> 
> "d.linen" wrote:
> 
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > I won't bother you any more.
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > Tai-Pan wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi Diane
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply.
> > > It does not conform to the request.
> > > I appeciate your need to reply to anything that comes along.
> > >
> > >  Bless you  Bob  Lee
> > >
> > > "d.linen" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
> > > > and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
> > > > arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
> > > > battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
> > > > electronic type person could say this better than I.
> > > >
> > > > Diane
> > > >
> > > > Tai-Pan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
> > > > >  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we 
> > > > > can
> > > > > follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
> > > > > battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) 
> > > > > Truth !
> > > > > not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If 
> > > > > you
> > > > > have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bless youBob Lee
> > > > >
> >  --
> 
> --
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi girl,


 Appreciate your input, however am open for hard data on recharging from the
earth, as some claim. Already know how to recharge from fences and close by 
power
lines. Thats been done for many years, as far back as the 1920's. :-) As a 
matter
of fact it costs the power companies millions per year in lost power from power
lines, which radiate energy into nearby space. Any metallic conductor close to a
power line will receive power from the power line. My grandfather built the 
first
power plant in Iowa and the first power plant in Puerto Rico. The original plant
is still in operation along with the newer construction. Myself, I'm a retired
electrical engineer (a real one). Engineers do not speculate, only deal with
proven facts. Technicians speculate, not engineers.  :-)
 You are not bothering me, I have saved a lot of valuable info from you on disk.

  Bless you Bob Lee

"d.linen" wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> I won't bother you any more.
>
> Diane
>
> Tai-Pan wrote:
> >
> >  Hi Diane
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> > It does not conform to the request.
> > I appeciate your need to reply to anything that comes along.
> >
> >  Bless you  Bob  Lee
> >
> > "d.linen" wrote:
> >
> > > I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
> > > and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
> > > arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
> > > battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
> > > electronic type person could say this better than I.
> > >
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > Tai-Pan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
> > > >  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we can
> > > > follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
> > > > battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) Truth !
> > > > not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If you
> > > > have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> > > >
> > > > Bless youBob Lee
> > > >
>  --

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread d.linen


rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

> 
> Diane: I read on another list awhile back that a lot of bare wire strung out
> in an open field can be statically charged by the wind then periodically
> discharged like a capacitor to produce electrical power. I was wondering if
> anyone has first hand experience with such a setup? Roger

I think the wind is a problem for ham radio antennas too. They have to
be well grounded. What you said here is probably what I was trying to
remember. I think the earth itself can build up a charge too. This is a
sort of Tesla type principle. 

Diane


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread d.linen
Hi Bob,

I won't bother you any more.

Diane

Tai-Pan wrote:
> 
>  Hi Diane
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> It does not conform to the request.
> I appeciate your need to reply to anything that comes along.
> 
>  Bless you  Bob  Lee
> 
> "d.linen" wrote:
> 
> > I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
> > and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
> > arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
> > battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
> > electronic type person could say this better than I.
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > Tai-Pan wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi all,
> > >
> > > Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
> > >  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we can
> > > follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
> > > battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) Truth !
> > > not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If you
> > > have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> > >
> > > Bless youBob Lee
> > >
> > > --
> > > oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
> > >   l...@fbtc.net
> > >
> > > --
> >
> 
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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 6/26/00 4:42:06 AM EST, li...@flash.net writes:

<< Subj:     Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.
 Date:  6/26/00 4:42:06 AM EST
 From:  li...@flash.net (d.linen)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
 and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
 arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
 battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
 electronic type person could say this better than I.
 
 Diane
  >>

Diane: I read on another list awhile back that a lot of bare wire strung out 
in an open field can be statically charged by the wind then periodically 
discharged like a capacitor to produce electrical power. I was wondering if 
anyone has first hand experience with such a setup? Roger


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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread Tai-Pan
 Hi Diane

Thanks for your reply.
It does not conform to the request.
I appeciate your need to reply to anything that comes along.

 Bless you  Bob  Lee

"d.linen" wrote:

> I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
> and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
> arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
> battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
> electronic type person could say this better than I.
>
> Diane
>
> Tai-Pan wrote:
> >
> >  Hi all,
> >
> > Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
> >  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we can
> > follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
> > battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) Truth !
> > not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If you
> > have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> >
> > Bless youBob Lee
> >
> > --
> > oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
> >   l...@fbtc.net
> >
> > --
>

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Re: CS>Recharging batteries from the earth.

2000-06-26 Thread d.linen
I think it has to do with a lot of chicken wire and cable (insulated?)
and spreading it out to other posts or perhaps in a more compact
arrangement going around and around a grounding post of some sort. With
battery cables attached to the cables to charge the battery. A more
electronic type person could say this better than I.

Diane

Tai-Pan wrote:
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
> Have seen a lot of refereces to recharging batteries from the earth.
>  Tell us how this is done. We all want to know. Give details that we can
> follow and duplicate this wonderful thing. Has anyone informed the
> battery manufactuers yet! Sure they would like to know also. :-) Truth !
> not BS, thank you. If its not duplicatable, don't waste our time. If you
> have not done it YOUR self, don't bother replying.
> 
> Bless youBob Lee
> 
> --
> oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
>   l...@fbtc.net
> 
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