Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Regarding dowsing, I was given some dowsing rods when I was a kid, and, not knowing any better, I dowsed my mother's garden. I found all sorts of things - buttons, old clay pipes, horseshoes etc. Sceptics usually tell me that I probably would have found something wherever I dug, but when I was older I bought a metal detector. My mother's garden was clear of any metal objects - I had found them all with the dowsing rods. It is very easy to make dowsing rods out of an old coat hanger http://www.mystical-www.co.uk/dowsing.htm Another off-topic subject, but I can't resist :-) Paul H - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies > I do believe that there is an absolute FTL communication medium...probably > having to do with nonlocality phenomenon fairy recently demonstrated by > instantantious electron [or was that photon?] rotation changes and called > "Spooky action at a distance" by Einstien. > > It is non intrusive...that easily drowned out 'quiet voice' thing. > > Everyone is psychic and everyone has opinions. > An opinion, being a very effective reality filter, can skew or eliminate > reception of communication quite nicely...even make you 'not see' the car > keys in your left hand as you don't want to go somewhere. > > IMO, this is what makes dousing etc. not very reliable..not that dousing > doesn't work..the douser 'is' at work. [And all observers are participants] > > The Rhine Institute is right down the road from me. [The events director > is one of those lawer ex-girlfriends I mentioned..we are still friendly] > Their experience with having skeptics [aka anti-believers] even thinking > about the tests, invalidating the tests, is not at all uncommon. > > I know many psychics who have told me exactly what someone was all > about...then used that info to screw up their relationships with them. I > could see what happened, but they couldn't. > And they refused to hear what I saw happen. > > "You're supposed to be supporting me!" She whines. > Uh yea, but supporting your BS that you told me all about and was proven > out by subsequent events set up, by you, using accurate info that you told > me all about beforehand..isn't supporting 'you'. > This is what you told me about that person and that is what you did with > it to get where your are, 1+2=3 period. Face it hon, you're walking around > looking for a place to sit, with a big psycic dildo in your hand. > > ..another 'ex' [still friendly] > > I wouldn't think that plants have very many conflicting opinions. > I don't think people and plants 'emit' signals. I think we walk around in > nonlocal 'existant' fields of them. Tune in/tune out, wiggle the dial for > degrees of distortion. > > It could be that the brain is nothing more than a filter and brain waves > are interferance patterns that make the filter work by cancellation. > > Ode > > > >From the tests I ran, and was privy to, water did not give any response, > and oil is non-conductive so testing it would not have been worth the time. > There were only two things that were found to respond to the death of the > shrimp at the time I last spoke with Cleve. The leaves of plants, > >and a semiconductive rubber sheet that is made for putting on the shoes of > surgeons to keep down static electricity. Back in 1970 Cleve was thinking > of making a detection instrument that used the rubber instead of the > leaves, but I never heard any followup on that. > > > >However the plant does respond if you pour hot water down the drain, or if > you stir up a package of yogurt that has fruit in the bottom. > > > >Marshall > > > > > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >
Re: CS>signals and frequencies -Spooky action at a distance-Einstien
Ode and Marshall, "Spooky action at a distance"??? RE-WIRING PLANTS: Frequencies of intent and conscious awareness? When working with plants to create 'evidence', one has to establish with the plants what rows will take the 'balance' - via botany criteria and intent. Otherwise all the plants in that section, of that species, will take the correction and you'll have no 'original condition - stressed, insect ridden, sickly or diseased' plants remaining. With BodyTalk one sets up with the plant which row will be 'enhanced - balanced' for these purposes. Generally, rows of plants want a commitment that the 'other folks' in the untapped row will get their tapping after the experiment and gathering of evidence. *grin* "Spooky action at a distance" ? http://www.planttalksystem.com/aboutus.htm Animals are different. Maximum effectiveness is communicating with the leader of the herd, group, flock, whatever, and then the info will pass through that 'community' of animals. Dealing with the 'wimp of the litter' may not move the information upwards. Just like with plants, each species and genes is different, and must be respected for their uniqueness. People - a long story.. but it can change interactions in families when some of the anger is released in one - especially the 'head' of the family. Sickliness can be unbalanced energy systems - changing thoughts/beliefs occur when the systems (organ, endocrine, or other body parts individually or linked together) find better balance communicating to, from or within each other. "Spooky action at a distance"... Almost 100 years ago Einstien said there was no distance or time. That's so with these frequency transmissions. It works - even 1/2 round the world! A new paradigm?? Christine > From: Ode Coyote > > I do believe that there is an absolute FTL communication medium...probably > having to do with nonlocality phenomenon fairy recently demonstrated by > instantantious electron [or was that photon?] rotation changes and called > "Spooky action at a distance" by Einstien. > > I wouldn't think that plants have very many conflicting opinions. > I don't think people and plants 'emit' signals. I think we walk around in > nonlocal 'existant' fields of them. Tune in/tune out, wiggle the dial for > degrees of distortion. > > It could be that the brain is nothing more than a filter and brain waves > are interferance patterns that make the filter work by cancellation. > > Ode > >> From the tests I ran, and was privy to, water did not give any response, > and oil is non-conductive so testing it would not have been worth the time. > There were only two things that were found to respond to the death of the > shrimp at the time I last spoke with Cleve. The leaves of plants, >> and a semiconductive rubber sheet that is made for putting on the shoes of > surgeons to keep down static electricity. Back in 1970 Cleve was thinking > of making a detection instrument that used the rubber instead of the > leaves, but I never heard any followup on that. >> >> However the plant does respond if you pour hot water down the drain, or if > you stir up a package of yogurt that has fruit in the bottom. >> >> Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
I do believe that there is an absolute FTL communication medium...probably having to do with nonlocality phenomenon fairy recently demonstrated by instantantious electron [or was that photon?] rotation changes and called "Spooky action at a distance" by Einstien. It is non intrusive...that easily drowned out 'quiet voice' thing. Everyone is psychic and everyone has opinions. An opinion, being a very effective reality filter, can skew or eliminate reception of communication quite nicely...even make you 'not see' the car keys in your left hand as you don't want to go somewhere. IMO, this is what makes dousing etc. not very reliable..not that dousing doesn't work..the douser 'is' at work. [And all observers are participants] The Rhine Institute is right down the road from me. [The events director is one of those lawer ex-girlfriends I mentioned..we are still friendly] Their experience with having skeptics [aka anti-believers] even thinking about the tests, invalidating the tests, is not at all uncommon. I know many psychics who have told me exactly what someone was all about...then used that info to screw up their relationships with them. I could see what happened, but they couldn't. And they refused to hear what I saw happen. "You're supposed to be supporting me!" She whines. Uh yea, but supporting your BS that you told me all about and was proven out by subsequent events set up, by you, using accurate info that you told me all about beforehand..isn't supporting 'you'. This is what you told me about that person and that is what you did with it to get where your are, 1+2=3 period. Face it hon, you're walking around looking for a place to sit, with a big psycic dildo in your hand. ..another 'ex' [still friendly] I wouldn't think that plants have very many conflicting opinions. I don't think people and plants 'emit' signals. I think we walk around in nonlocal 'existant' fields of them. Tune in/tune out, wiggle the dial for degrees of distortion. It could be that the brain is nothing more than a filter and brain waves are interferance patterns that make the filter work by cancellation. Ode >From the tests I ran, and was privy to, water did not give any response, and oil is non-conductive so testing it would not have been worth the time. There were only two things that were found to respond to the death of the shrimp at the time I last spoke with Cleve. The leaves of plants, >and a semiconductive rubber sheet that is made for putting on the shoes of surgeons to keep down static electricity. Back in 1970 Cleve was thinking of making a detection instrument that used the rubber instead of the leaves, but I never heard any followup on that. > >However the plant does respond if you pour hot water down the drain, or if you stir up a package of yogurt that has fruit in the bottom. > >Marshall > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Pierre Paul Savin had his garage door wired up to a plant so he could telepathically tell it to open them without having to get out of his car, apparently. http://www.strayreality.com/Plantsesp2.htm Paul H - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 1:56 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies > David Bearrow wrote: > > > At 01:02 PM 8/16/04, you wrote: > > > > >Never tried that, but it did respond to thoughts quite well. In fact with > > >practice I got where I could drive the meter to either peg by just > > >concentrating on the plant with certain thoughts. > > > > If that is true then you could use a plant as a telepathy antenna and hook > > up the varying resistance to a comparator and at crossover drive a relay. > > You could use such a setup as a mental remote control switch. That may be > > worth investigating... > > As I had indicated earlier, the meter will respond to all kinds of things, if > it is just sitting there, it will drift higher and lower and off scale very > often. One has to use statistics to validate that any actions taken did > indeed affect the meter. For instance, it might drift to the upper limit and > lower limit once or twice a minute. So, even though if you are across the > room and can mentally control it to some extent, you have to do it several > times before you can even be sure you are doing it and that it is not a > coincidence. Imagine a candle flame, which I have heard some use for > telekinesis training. With training some people can control the height of the > flame. But without doing anything, the height of the flame will often vary > randomly anyway. > > In other words, the signal to noise ratio is too low to effectively make it > useful for anything but research and information on how things work. > > Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
David Bearrow wrote: > At 01:02 PM 8/16/04, you wrote: > > >Never tried that, but it did respond to thoughts quite well. In fact with > >practice I got where I could drive the meter to either peg by just > >concentrating on the plant with certain thoughts. > > If that is true then you could use a plant as a telepathy antenna and hook > up the varying resistance to a comparator and at crossover drive a relay. > You could use such a setup as a mental remote control switch. That may be > worth investigating... As I had indicated earlier, the meter will respond to all kinds of things, if it is just sitting there, it will drift higher and lower and off scale very often. One has to use statistics to validate that any actions taken did indeed affect the meter. For instance, it might drift to the upper limit and lower limit once or twice a minute. So, even though if you are across the room and can mentally control it to some extent, you have to do it several times before you can even be sure you are doing it and that it is not a coincidence. Imagine a candle flame, which I have heard some use for telekinesis training. With training some people can control the height of the flame. But without doing anything, the height of the flame will often vary randomly anyway. In other words, the signal to noise ratio is too low to effectively make it useful for anything but research and information on how things work. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
At 01:02 PM 8/16/04, you wrote: Never tried that, but it did respond to thoughts quite well. In fact with practice I got where I could drive the meter to either peg by just concentrating on the plant with certain thoughts. If that is true then you could use a plant as a telepathy antenna and hook up the varying resistance to a comparator and at crossover drive a relay. You could use such a setup as a mental remote control switch. That may be worth investigating... Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Mike Monett wrote: > Re: CS>signals and frequencies > From: Marshall Dudley > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:17:29 > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72540.html > > > Mike Monett wrote: > > >> And I doubt it responded to menacing looks:) > > > Never tried that, but it did respond to thoughts quite well. In > > fact with practice I got where I could drive the meter to either > > peg by just concentrating on the plant with certain thoughts. > > > Marshall > > Gee, Marshall, that's amazing. What an astounding invention! > > Just think - since a plant can read our thoughts, we don't need lie > detectors anymore. They don't read our thoughts, but thoughts projected toward them which are menacing, or loving can and will affect the plant. A plant would not respond to thoughts that don't concern it directly. > And we can replace all those high-paid guards > with just a few plants. In fact, most offices already have potted > plants in strategic locations - the perfect disguise! A crook would > never think about shielding his thoughts near a plant. All we need > is to hook them up to a detector. How would that work, how would you train the crooks to have menacing thoughs toward the plants? Plus you would get lots of false alarms. A bird is attacked by another bird, someone dumps hot water down the drain or stirs up some yogurt, they all give positive responses. You have to statistically analyze the data to verify that there is actually interaction between the plant and thoughts and sudden loss of life in the vacanity. > > > The possibilities are endless. For example, we don't need to waste > time and money looking for missing persons. Just ask a plant - the > person is bound to be near another plant somewhere. You completely lost me here. > > > On the other hand, now I'm in a quandry. What do I do about cutting > the grass? Now that I know plants are sensitive to pain, should I > just let the yard grow? Maybe I should go and ask a blade of grass > if it minds. I don't think plants are sensitive to pain. But they do react to injury, many will put out certain chemicals to repel insects, and interestingly it has been found that if a plant in attacked by insects, those plants in the same area will react with the same chemical defenses although they were not attacked. Most scientists think that the communication is via a chemical messager, but with this knowledge that may not be the only possibility. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Hi Mike, Gee, Marshall, that's amazing. What an astounding invention! Just think - since a plant can read our thoughts, we don't need lie detectors anymore. And we can replace all those high-paid guards with just a few plants. In fact, most offices already have potted plants in strategic locations - the perfect disguise! A crook would never think about shielding his thoughts near a plant. All we need is to hook them up to a detector. The possibilities are endless. For example, we don't need to waste time and money looking for missing persons. Just ask a plant - the person is bound to be near another plant somewhere. On the other hand, now I'm in a quandry. What do I do about cutting the grass? Now that I know plants are sensitive to pain, should I just let the yard grow? Maybe I should go and ask a blade of grass if it minds. Thanks for posting this information Marshall. Just think - I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing it! You are closer to being right than you might imagine:) Check these out: http://www.whatthebleep.com/crystals/ http://www.hado.net/theintroduction.html Ciao, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Re: CS>signals and frequencies From: Marshall Dudley Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:17:29 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72540.html > Mike Monett wrote: >> And I doubt it responded to menacing looks:) > Never tried that, but it did respond to thoughts quite well. In > fact with practice I got where I could drive the meter to either > peg by just concentrating on the plant with certain thoughts. > Marshall Gee, Marshall, that's amazing. What an astounding invention! Just think - since a plant can read our thoughts, we don't need lie detectors anymore. And we can replace all those high-paid guards with just a few plants. In fact, most offices already have potted plants in strategic locations - the perfect disguise! A crook would never think about shielding his thoughts near a plant. All we need is to hook them up to a detector. The possibilities are endless. For example, we don't need to waste time and money looking for missing persons. Just ask a plant - the person is bound to be near another plant somewhere. On the other hand, now I'm in a quandry. What do I do about cutting the grass? Now that I know plants are sensitive to pain, should I just let the yard grow? Maybe I should go and ask a blade of grass if it minds. Thanks for posting this information Marshall. Just think - I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing it! Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Ode Coyote wrote: > There's a difference between bodies having signals that can be measured with > direct contact and signals being emmitted from them. > No one disputes galvanic skin response or that live cells communicate > electrically. > Obviously, EEG machines work. > > One unrelated subject does not prove a another, though it may sometimes open > an inquiry of relationships which might point to similarities. > > What happens when a lie detector is hooked up to a glass of oil or water? > Then you threaten drinking it or pouring it down the drain? > or place a crystal in it. > > ode >From the tests I ran, and was privy to, water did not give any response, and >oil is non-conductive so testing it would not have been worth the time. There >were only two things that were found to respond to the death of the shrimp at >the time I last spoke with Cleve. The leaves of plants, and a semiconductive rubber sheet that is made for putting on the shoes of surgeons to keep down static electricity. Back in 1970 Cleve was thinking of making a detection instrument that used the rubber instead of the leaves, but I never heard any followup on that. However the plant does respond if you pour hot water down the drain, or if you stir up a package of yogurt that has fruit in the bottom. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Wayne Fugitt wrote: > Evening David, > > >Plants can change their resistance but emit no energy. Don't get your > >terms mixed up. The plant had a variable resistance, NOT a transmission of > >energy at a certain frequency. > > Plants have fever, like humans. Temperatures change. Typically, > resistance must change with temperature changes. A number of years back, > you could buy an instrument for checking the temperature of plants without > physical contact. In the hands of a skilled operator, one could tell if > the plant had problems or it was performing its daily tasks without > difficulty. > > Also plants, when feeding are moving nutrients around. At times they > take up water and virtually no nutrients. Depends on what mood they are in. > > Logically, this would account for resistance changes. > The change is too fast for it to be from movement of nutrients and water. One to two seconds is all it takes. Also, that would not account for the response when you are going to water the plant, BEFORE GIVING IT THE WATER! > > I would think this would vary from 100% sunlight to 25 % sunlight due to > changes in transpiration. > > Does the lie detector use two electrodes? Seems it would have to. Yes, it takes two electrodes. I made mine from two metal guitar picks. Marshall > > > Fortunately, I suppose, I have never seen a lie detector or had a test. > > Wayne > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Mike Monett wrote: > And I doubt it responded to menacing looks:) > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Monett > > - Never tried that, but it did respond to thoughts quite well. In fact with practice I got where I could drive the meter to either peg by just concentrating on the plant with certain thoughts. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
As an friend, and co researcher with Cleve in 1970, I can state that he did not measure any type of emission, but all his instrument was was basically a galvanic response meter. That is it measured resistance, and that resistance varied over time, and could be affected by thoughts, and the sudden death of brine shrimp, and even microbes in a drain when hot water was run into the sink. Marshall William Missett wrote: > Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private > practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I > believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant > growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on > the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to > emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the > plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a > rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg > the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found > that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, > and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange > possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, > The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion. - > Original Message -From: "Mike Monett" > <5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com>To: Sent: Sunday, > August 15, 2004 12:27 PMSubject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies > > CS>signals and frequencies > > From: Terry Chamberlin > > Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:33:24 > > > > >> ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... > > > > > The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of > the > > > words, *signal* and *frequency*. > > > > Hi Terry, > > > > Everyone seems to be taking a narrow interpretation of what I > said. > > Here is my statement > > > > "There is no measurable radiation from the human body at > these > > frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and > spectrum > > analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years > and > > can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from > the > > human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil." > > > > ... > > > > "However, there is no way a signal can come from the body, > as > > Tainio claims. His BT3 instrument is a scam." > > > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72409.html > > > > Please do not attribute my words to other areas outside the topic > we > > were discussing, which is frequency measurement with the Tainio > BT3 > > system. > > > > An instrument that claims to measure signals produced by > plants, > > bottles of oil, lumps of soil, or the human body at the > frequencies > > and under the conditions described on his web site is a scam. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Mike Monett > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver List archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>signals and frequencies
You're welcome.
Backster has interested me for many years, since reading The Secret Life of
Plants many years ago.
Paul H
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From: William Missett
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Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 2:45 AM
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Thanks for that link. It was a fascinating interview which goes far beyond
anything I've read about the man.
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Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:03 PM
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An interview with Backster is here:
http://www.derrickjensen.org/backster.html
Paul H
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From: William Missett
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Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies
Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private
practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he
got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and
to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector.
He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable
frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made
menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement
saw the lie detector peg the meter.
He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could
communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing
examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in
depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants.
It might change your opinion.
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There's a difference between bodies having signals that can be measured with direct contact and signals being emmitted from them. No one disputes galvanic skin response or that live cells communicate electrically. Obviously, EEG machines work. One unrelated subject does not prove a another, though it may sometimes open an inquiry of relationships which might point to similarities. What happens when a lie detector is hooked up to a glass of oil or water? Then you threaten drinking it or pouring it down the drain? or place a crystal in it. ode At 04:41 PM 8/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: >>>> Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion. - Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" <5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies > CS>signals and frequencies > From: Terry Chamberlin > Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:33:24 > > >> ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... > > > The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of the > > words, *signal* and *frequency*. > > Hi Terry, > > Everyone seems to be taking a narrow interpretation of what I said. > Here is my statement > > "There is no measurable radiation from the human body at these > frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and spectrum > analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years and > can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from the > human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil." > > ... > > "However, there is no way a signal can come from the body, as > Tainio claims. His BT3 instrument is a scam." > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72409.html > > Please do not attribute my words to other areas outside the topic we > were discussing, which is frequency measurement with the Tainio BT3 > system. > > An instrument that claims to measure signals produced by plants, > bottles of oil, lumps of soil, or the human body at the frequencies > and under the conditions described on his web site is a scam. > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > <<<<
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A resonant or sympathetic frequency and a generated or emitted frequency ain't the same things. The main difference is in where the energy comes from. The origial post had to do with people and plants etc having some sort of frequency as measured by some device, but didn't mention that it was a resonant frequency being measured with the original energy emitted by some other device. Was it or wasn't it? In the case of auras being shown by x rays, that may be a resonant effect rather than a photo of an aura which may or may not have anything to do with an aura. Resonant with what? is the question. Ode At 11:29 AM 8/15/2004 -0400, you wrote: >...there is no way a signal can come from the >body... > >The problem with this statement is in a narrow >definition of the words, *signal* and *frequency*. >Royal Rife declared that all organisms had a specific >frequency that they operated at (or existed at). By >bombarding and overloading that organism (is this >case, specific types of pathogens) with a strong >signal set at that pathogens frequency, what Rife >called a sympathetic vibratory response would occur, >and that particular pathogen would, essentially, >vibrate to pieces. Live blood cell microscopy has >demonstrated Dr. Rifes assertion. > >There is the well-known phenomenon of shattering a >wine glass using a strong audio signal set at a >specific frequency. What determines what frequency it >takes to shatter a wine glass? The frequency that >glass, or even that particular glass, exists at and >responds to. > >Dr. Carey Reams asserted that all objects in the >universe operated at specific frequencies, living or >inanimate. He said that each organ in the body, and >each food that we eat, have their own frequency. In >this case, frequency is referring to molecular >oscillations, how many times electrons rotate around >the nucleus of each molecule, the combined, >sympathetic frequencies of all the molecules in an >organ or food or object, etc. To say that the body or >foods do not emit a signal is to assume that all >signals are measurable or even known. As far as these >devices that are being sold as measuring instruments, >I cannot say. If they are claiming to measure known >phenomena (radio waves, etc.), and no one else can >duplicate these measurements, then that is suspect. To >say that living organisms do not emit a signal of any >kind, I would have to disagree. > >Terry Chamberlin > > >__ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
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At 08:54 PM 8/15/04, you wrote: Does the lie detector use two electrodes? Seems it would have to. It uses the principle of galvanic response. The theory is that our skin varies in resistance depending on whether the pores are open or closed. It appears that emotion can cause the pores to either relax and open or tighten up and close. The galvanometer is simply a ohm meter (usually a wheatstone bridge). It has 2 leads. They attach directly to the skin. David Bearrow www.addaphonejack.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Good Story. dahh...Sometimes I don't see the forest for the trees ... In PlantTalk we follow a protocol based on the botany of plants with 'thought frequency' - (sorry electrical guys - I do not know another word - I'm open for suggestions ) 'intention' before 'tapping' the plant to it's indicated required 'correction' so it is not sickly and produces profusely. We can also 'tap out' or bring to balance challenges like fungus, moulds, rusts, GM interference, electrical influences, adjusting to too much water or too little which is helpful in these times of climatic changes... See photographs on web site of different gardens, crops. Now, add CS on top of your watering; plants, animals, or people, and one must affect the effectiveness if they monitor their thoughts. Is there an instrument that measures this? I have no idea. Perhaps Jim Conroy BSc, Ph.D. knows of one. Does BodyTalk/PlantTalk work. Absolutely! Works on objective subjects like animals too - Animal Communication. More effectively, if you know their detailed anatomy. Also people! Regardless of if they 'believe' or not. Tapping into the 'quantum' levels of 'thought transference' - frequency? - produces results that may not yet be instrument measurable, but are results orientated. http://www.planttalksystem.com/aboutus.htm PlantTalk Dr. James J. Conroy, Developer of The PlantTalk System, Certified BodyTalk Practitioner. Why will you not hear about it? One does NOT have to use products! It's all inside -- the plant, animal or you. Pharma & co. may not like it on the balance sheet. Surgery rates decline. Nothing is louder than the $$$. A paradigm shift? Perhaps... Works in 3rd world countries with basic education. hmmm... imagine potential changes... When I had mould I had to ask myself questions like: Too much body moisture? Mould? What old thoughts (even based in law or science) are producing this potentially KILLING effect? Endocrine system out of balance? What does the universe want me to drop to find a better balance? This is not conventional BT on the body, but my body with the universal messages of balance - a 'Wake-Up Call' -- Shift or Be Shifted! Each will have a story as unique as their own fingerprint. Cotton is in harmony with nature (read plants, animals, and people). Poly fabrics are from the petro industry - dead materials. One fabric nurtures if we are in harmony. One fabric does not nurture the human energy system. When doing BT for the first time, we request people wear natural fabrics, or strip off. The poly fabrics appear to restrictive the first couple of sessions. Even expensive designer Italian or German poly gear is limiting... it's nothing to do with price - the dead frequency is harder to work through. Barometer of measurement? Personal health and vitality. Christine Carleton C.B.P.: Certified BodyTalk® Practitioner, Int¹l BODYTALK Assn. thebodytalksys...@telus.net From: William Missett Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion. - Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" <5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com> To: Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies > CS>signals and frequencies > From: Terry Chamberlin > Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:33:24 > > >> ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... > > > The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of the > > words, *signal* and *frequency*. > > Hi Terry, > > Everyone seems to be taking a narrow interpretation of what I said. > Here is my statement > > "There is no measurable radiation from the human body at these > frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and spectrum > analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years and > can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from the > human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil." > >
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Evening David, Plants can change their resistance but emit no energy. Don't get your terms mixed up. The plant had a variable resistance, NOT a transmission of energy at a certain frequency. Plants have fever, like humans. Temperatures change. Typically, resistance must change with temperature changes. A number of years back, you could buy an instrument for checking the temperature of plants without physical contact. In the hands of a skilled operator, one could tell if the plant had problems or it was performing its daily tasks without difficulty. Also plants, when feeding are moving nutrients around. At times they take up water and virtually no nutrients. Depends on what mood they are in. Logically, this would account for resistance changes. I would think this would vary from 100% sunlight to 25 % sunlight due to changes in transpiration. Does the lie detector use two electrodes? Seems it would have to. Fortunately, I suppose, I have never seen a lie detector or had a test. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Thanks for that link. It was a fascinating interview which goes far beyond anything I've read about the man. - Original Message - From: Paul Holloway To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:03 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies An interview with Backster is here: http://www.derrickjensen.org/backster.html Paul H - Original Message - From: William Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion.
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An interview with Backster is here: http://www.derrickjensen.org/backster.html Paul H - Original Message - From: William Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion.
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At 04:41 PM 8/15/04, you wrote: Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. The plant emitted no energy at any frequency. Cleve used a galvanometer to measure resistance. Plants can change their resistance but emit no energy. Don't get your terms mixed up. The plant had a variable resistance, NOT a transmission of energy at a certain frequency. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Re: CS>signals and frequencies From: William Missett Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:35:57 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72486.html > Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into > private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the > 1960's (I believe)he got bored andhooked his lie detector up to a > plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it > registered on the detector. > He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit > detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the > plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a > rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector > peg the meter. > He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he > could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and > many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange > possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's > book, The Secret Life of Plants. > It might change your opinion. Hi Bill, I've heard something similar, except the experimenter actually snipped pieces from a leaf, or subjected the plant to electrical shock from a high voltage spark coil. To nobody's surprise, the plant reacts. However, you need to know how a lie detector works. It is basically an ohmmeter that works at DC. By applying a known voltage across a resistance, and measuring the current, one can calculate the resistance by Ohms law: R = E / I where R = resistance E = voltage I = current Ordinary DVM's apply a constant current and measure the voltage across the resistance. The formula is E = I * R Variations on this technique use a Wheatstone Bridge to measure small variations in a large resistance. However, all these are DC voltages and currents, and the plant is not emitting any signal. Only the resistance changes, and this requires an external voltage or current source to detect. The plant is not emitting a signal at 50MHz or so as Tainio claims. And I doubt it responded to menacing looks:) Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Former top FBI lie detector expert Cleve Backster went into private practice with similar services in NYC. One day in the 1960's (I believe) he got bored and hooked his lie detector up to a plant growing in his office, and to his surprise noted that it registered on the detector. He then started wondering about the plant's ability to emit detectable frequencies, and wondered if he could affect the plant's behaviour. He made menacing moves against the plant (a rhodendren, I believe) and to his amazement saw the lie detector peg the meter. He kept this experimentation up for some time, and found that he could communicate his intentions from one plant to another, and many more amazing examples of human-plant energy exchange possibilities. His story is told in depth in Christopher Bird's book, The Secret Life of Plants. It might change your opinion. - Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" <5ay1wk...@sneakemail.com> To: Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: CS>signals and frequencies > CS>signals and frequencies > From: Terry Chamberlin > Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:33:24 > > >> ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... > > > The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of the > > words, *signal* and *frequency*. > > Hi Terry, > > Everyone seems to be taking a narrow interpretation of what I said. > Here is my statement > > "There is no measurable radiation from the human body at these > frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and spectrum > analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years and > can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from the > human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil." > > ... > > "However, there is no way a signal can come from the body, as > Tainio claims. His BT3 instrument is a scam." > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72409.html > > Please do not attribute my words to other areas outside the topic we > were discussing, which is frequency measurement with the Tainio BT3 > system. > > An instrument that claims to measure signals produced by plants, > bottles of oil, lumps of soil, or the human body at the frequencies > and under the conditions described on his web site is a scam. > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
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Evening David, Your talking about the resonant frequency of matter. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Resonance I thought this to be the phonema that causes bridges and towers to collapse. Upon closer examination, this is not the same thing. When studying bridges, 20 years ago, before I constructed a 53 foot suspension bridge, I came across many interesting incidents. Here is one example of a bridge that collapsed in a 45 mile per hour breeze. http://cems.alfred.edu/students98/sonnevnj/TACOMA.HTML I have had a number or ornery problems to solve due to vibrations. Often a part would be vibrating and causing objectionable noise when the root cause was not the part that was vibrating. It would be a part somewhere else on the machine such as a bearing, pulley, gear or belt that was causing the problem. The vibration of one part shows up as the vibration of another. Sound, vibration, and mechanical resonance are closely related. Many people have missed the basic definition of sound. Ask knowledge people and see what they tell you. The best definition I have found is, "The disturbance of matter from equilibrium". I have suspected that these people are measuring body emissions are reading noise or something else and calling it frequency. Do you think it could be a loose screw in one's head causing the big toe to vibrate? Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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At 10:29 AM 8/15/04, you wrote: There is the well-known phenomenon of shattering a wine glass using a strong audio signal set at a specific frequency. What determines what frequency it takes to shatter a wine glass? The frequency that glass, or even that particular glass, exists at and responds to. Your talking about the resonant frequency of matter. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Resonance This has nothing to do with an energy that an object transmits or exists at. Its the speed at which an object will sympathetically vibrate physically when mechanically or electrically stimulated at or near the frequency its particular physical makeup will move at. Objects do not vibrate at their resonant frequency unless externally stimulated mechanically or electrically at or near its resonant frequency. A frequency meter would not be capable of determining resonant frequency. David Bearrow www.addaphonejack.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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CS>signals and frequencies From: Terry Chamberlin Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:33:24 >> ...there is no way a signal can come from the body... > The problem with this statement is in a narrow definition of the > words, *signal* and *frequency*. Hi Terry, Everyone seems to be taking a narrow interpretation of what I said. Here is my statement "There is no measurable radiation from the human body at these frequencies. You cannot measure it with an antenna and spectrum analyzer. I owned a HP 8568A spectrum analyzer for many years and can absolutely guarantee there is no measurable radiation from the human body at 50MHz. Or from bottles of oil, or lumps of soil." ... "However, there is no way a signal can come from the body, as Tainio claims. His BT3 instrument is a scam." http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72409.html Please do not attribute my words to other areas outside the topic we were discussing, which is frequency measurement with the Tainio BT3 system. An instrument that claims to measure signals produced by plants, bottles of oil, lumps of soil, or the human body at the frequencies and under the conditions described on his web site is a scam. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
