Re: CSRE: Making first batch
I think it must be the water Joy. The only time I ever got yellow was when I was filling the plastic bottles right to the top. This didn't allow the plastic to 'out-gas' I think. But I have *never* had yellow silver in my brewing container, at least, only when I ran it on manual for 10 hours to make a strong batch for making gel with. And I am very much a novice. dee On 24 Aug 2009, at 08:02, j.sherri wrote: Hi, Made another batch - this time both turned blackish - one more than another - no barnacles - kept it going for about 1.5 hours. Still turned light yellow. *Maybe* just a tad lighter than in the first batch. Rinsed out the container with distilled water before attaching the power. Also made sure to rinse the stirrer with distilled water So - that's the sitch so far. I'm dosing in spite of it all. Joy
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi, Made another batch - this time both turned blackish - one more than another - no barnacles - kept it going for about 1.5 hours. Still turned light yellow. *Maybe* just a tad lighter than in the first batch. Rinsed out the container with distilled water before attaching the power. Also made sure to rinse the stirrer with distilled water So - that's the sitch so far. I'm dosing in spite of it all. Joy Ode Coyote wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed Using that method, one electrode turning fuzzy black is normal. [Silver Oxide] The other turning black, isn't. [Who knows what, being made out of silver ions and water contaminationprobably. ] Normally, That one would be sort of whitish to tan with Silver Hydroxide and metallic silver dust Not bad in a pinch, animals don't care...you have NO idea how strong it is...it'll work. For you? ..won't kill ya. Could save your butt in an emergency. Probably wouldn't want to make a habit out of using a lot of it for a long time. could be better without much effort. More info: http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html [Quick cheap and dirty current control.If you see a Golden mist remove a battery] Ode At 10:15 PM 8/22/2009 +0300, you wrote: Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com /div
RE: CSRE: Making first batch
This is it Joy, one can only use what water's available. When I'm using my old battery unit I remove the electrodes from the water (300ml glass) after 30 minutes,clean them with a paper towel,swap polarity over (maintain even wear on both electrodes) then resubmerge them for another 30 minutes and jobs done. I suggest not to use a scouring pad to clean electrodes as they are needlessly abrasive, use paper towel, tissue, clean rag/hanky or toilet paper if you have to (but you'd better fold *that* over a few times to give it some strength g). If you're using 4 batteries then things will work a little quicker, you may need to do the electrode cleaning thing each 15 minutes. One (1) hour should give you plenty of ppm for your purpose. Mine's normally clear, but then I'm not phased by colour anyway. Contaminants are your worst nightmare...what I do: keep everything clean, I don't wash containers out just wipe them out with paper towel, I keep containers solely as production vessels and for storage of EIS. N. Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:15:51 +0300 From: beitharm...@gmail.com CC: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch To: silver-list@eskimo.com Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy B.Trig wrote: Hi Joy, I never saw that question the first time, not sure why that is... But Joseph is right, a description of your generator setup might help. Your electrodes should definitely not be black, especially not within an hour. Are you sure you're working with silver of at least .999 purity (i.e., 99.9% pure silver)? Also, a lot of us use those green scrubby pads to clean the silver electrodes. Maybe you had some sort of residue on there? As for the barnacles well, I do hope you're not using sea water! ;) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ What goes online, stays online Check the daily blob for the latest on what's happening around the web http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi Joy. A tag yellow isn't bad, drank that for many years, kept me away from the doc,s. Been drinking the clear stuff after 2-3-hundred hours reashearch and plus the experimentation. It all seems to work. Drink it before it turns yellow. Its fresh,its good, dont worry. Its not going to kill you. Just don't drink gallons of it per day. Its really hard to not make it right, it almost impossible to make it perfect. Hit the middle, call it good stuff. Hope that helps Sam L. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:02 AM, j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Made another batch - this time both turned blackish - one more than another - no barnacles - kept it going for about 1.5 hours. Still turned light yellow. *Maybe* just a tad lighter than in the first batch. Rinsed out the container with distilled water before attaching the power. Also made sure to rinse the stirrer with distilled water So - that's the sitch so far. I'm dosing in spite of it all. Joy Ode Coyote wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed Using that method, one electrode turning fuzzy black is normal. [Silver Oxide] The other turning black, isn't. [Who knows what, being made out of silver ions and water contaminationprobably. ] Normally, That one would be sort of whitish to tan with Silver Hydroxide and metallic silver dust Not bad in a pinch, animals don't care...you have NO idea how strong it is...it'll work. For you? ..won't kill ya. Could save your butt in an emergency. Probably wouldn't want to make a habit out of using a lot of it for a long time. could be better without much effort. More info: http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html [Quick cheap and dirty current control.If you see a Golden mist remove a battery] Ode At 10:15 PM 8/22/2009 +0300, you wrote: Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto: beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com /div -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything
Re: CSRE: Making first batch
What you have sounds right. I think from your later description it may have run a bit long, crystal clear is best, but light yellow is still good. I have made thousands of gallons of CS and have never seen bubbles. I suspect it may have to do with how pure your water is, or maybe your current level. It is normal for the rods to get black, or at least one to get black and the other more of a brown or tan color. The black, on the cathode, which will grow fuzz if the ppm of the CS is getting high, is silver powder, that is plated out of solution when the solution gets loaded with silver, and the tan on the anode is silver oxide. You can swap the polarity, and the silver that was plated out will then go into solution, and the silver oxide will get reduced, so that there is little if any buildup. Some people swap the polarity every time they brew, I switch mine ever 60 seconds so there is never any buildup to speak of. BTW, I somehow did not see your original question. Sorry for the lack of response. Marshall j.sherri wrote: Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
It's going yellow because you're brewing too long. Never mind, not important. Chuck N-O-I-S-E The Conservative Voice - On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:02 AM, j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com [link: mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com] wrote: Hi, Made another batch - this time both turned blackish - one more than another - no barnacles - kept it going for about 1.5 hours. Still turned light yellow. *Maybe* just a tad lighter than in the first batch. Rinsed out the container with distilled water before attaching the power. Also made sure to rinse the stirrer with distilled water So - that's the sitch so far. I'm dosing in spite of it all. Joy Ode Coyote wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed Using that method, one No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.65/2323 - Release Date: 08/24/09 06:05:00
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi Dan, Considering cleaning off the rods in mid process - keeping the rods as pristine as possible and avoiding the residue - which seems I've accumulated - albeit a very small amount. I sent away for a laser which should help in seeing the *action*. Thanks so much for this wisdom, much appreciated. Joy Dan Nave wrote: Sounds to me that this is just fine for initial CS making. In this sort of setup, the positive electrode will get slightly black and the negative electrode will get somewhat dark and build up with fuzzy material. Sometimes it is referred to as a beard. Some people like to clean off the electrodes at a certain point and then continue the brew for a half hour or an hour, etc, it is up to you. Some say that you can stop brewing when the beard starts to form. It depends on how much water you are using and how well stirred or how well the silver is dispersed into the water. It does seem that 15 minutes might be a bit quick for that to happen, but it also depends on how much water is used in your setup and how close the electrodes are to each other. Also, as you say, the Distilled Water may not be the best, or there was a slight contamination from your hands or soap or something. Nevertheless, with a light gold color, and this setup, I would think it is fine to use internally or externally. Try lighting the water container from the back side while brewing. At some point you will see small clouds coming off the electrodes, which will tell you that it is getting near done. For this kind of unregulated/unmetered setup, I usually shoot for slight yellow CS so I know there is something there... Dan On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM, j.sherribeitharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The guy is on YouTube and put together a device to make the CS - his screen name is efreeme. Does anyone know about the silver he's selling? All I can do is go on trust and faith with this - the rods seem to be a very soft and malleable silver. Re the water - I am using distilled water that I got from a pharmacy. They sell it here in bulk which means you bring your own container. What could have *possibly* happened is that the plastic water container that I brought them had a tiny drop of the mineral water in it - and thereby contaminated the distilled. That is a possibility. I will go back and get more and do another batch with a cleaner bottle and post the results. Thanks so much for your input. Much appreciated, Joy B.Trig wrote: Hi Joy, I wouldn't recommend using the resulting brew for anything until you're sure you've actually got silver of at least .999 purity for electrodes. I get . (99.99% pure) from this site http://tinyurl.com/mnkj2t Never had any problems, and it's pretty cheap. BTW I reposted this to the list, so others might be able to comment -- hope you don't mind. Once in a while hitting reply sends mail to the poster's personal address instead of the list, I'm thinking that's probably what happened with this mail. HTH, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Using that method, one electrode turning fuzzy black is normal. [Silver Oxide] The other turning black, isn't. [Who knows what, being made out of silver ions and water contaminationprobably. ] Normally, That one would be sort of whitish to tan with Silver Hydroxide and metallic silver dust Not bad in a pinch, animals don't care...you have NO idea how strong it is...it'll work. For you? ..won't kill ya. Could save your butt in an emergency. Probably wouldn't want to make a habit out of using a lot of it for a long time. could be better without much effort. More info: http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html [Quick cheap and dirty current control.If you see a Golden mist remove a battery] Ode At 10:15 PM 8/22/2009 +0300, you wrote: Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The guy doesn't understand his meter. RO water can be pure enough, but usually isn't. A Britta filter will add more impurities to the silver water than it removes. Letting the stuff settle for a few days and decanting works far better than any filter you can buy short of a low micron lab filter. ..and you can get a far better automatic PPM control / current controlled generator than that.. for less than $100 Ode At 10:41 AM 8/23/2009 +0300, you wrote: The guy is on YouTube and put together a device to make the CS - his screen name is efreeme. Does anyone know about the silver he's selling? All I can do is go on trust and faith with this - the rods seem to be a very soft and malleable silver. Re the water - I am using distilled water that I got from a pharmacy. They sell it here in bulk which means you bring your own container. What could have *possibly* happened is that the plastic water container that I brought them had a tiny drop of the mineral water in it - and thereby contaminated the distilled. That is a possibility. I will go back and get more and do another batch with a cleaner bottle and post the results. Thanks so much for your input. Much appreciated, Joy B.Trig wrote: Hi Joy, I wouldn't recommend using the resulting brew for anything until you're sure you've actually got silver of at least .999 purity for electrodes. I get . (99.99% pure) from this site http://tinyurl.com/mnkj2t Never had any problems, and it's pretty cheap. BTW I reposted this to the list, so others might be able to comment -- hope you don't mind. Once in a while hitting reply sends mail to the poster's personal address instead of the list, I'm thinking that's probably what happened with this mail. HTH, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy B.Trig wrote: Hi Joy, I never saw that question the first time, not sure why that is... But Joseph is right, a description of your generator setup might help. Your electrodes should definitely not be black, especially not within an hour. Are you sure you're working with silver of at least .999 purity (i.e., 99.9% pure silver)? Also, a lot of us use those green scrubby pads to clean the silver electrodes. Maybe you had some sort of residue on there? As for the barnacles well, I do hope you're not using sea water! ;) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Sounds to me that this is just fine for initial CS making. In this sort of setup, the positive electrode will get slightly black and the negative electrode will get somewhat dark and build up with fuzzy material. Sometimes it is referred to as a beard. Some people like to clean off the electrodes at a certain point and then continue the brew for a half hour or an hour, etc, it is up to you. Some say that you can stop brewing when the beard starts to form. It depends on how much water you are using and how well stirred or how well the silver is dispersed into the water. It does seem that 15 minutes might be a bit quick for that to happen, but it also depends on how much water is used in your setup and how close the electrodes are to each other. Also, as you say, the Distilled Water may not be the best, or there was a slight contamination from your hands or soap or something. Nevertheless, with a light gold color, and this setup, I would think it is fine to use internally or externally. Try lighting the water container from the back side while brewing. At some point you will see small clouds coming off the electrodes, which will tell you that it is getting near done. For this kind of unregulated/unmetered setup, I usually shoot for slight yellow CS so I know there is something there... Dan On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM, j.sherribeitharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joseph, I set up a barebones type of generator - 4 9v's - 2 rods that I got off ebay that said ., 2 9v connectors and 2 alligator clips. I am using whatever distilled water I can get - unfortunately it's not easy to find where I live and the one place I did find - perhaps didn't have the absolute best. But it is what it is - and that is that I used. About 15 minutes after hooking everything up I noticed both rods getting black. One then started getting fuzzy black. I kept the power going for about 3 hours, during which I adjusted the connectors a bit and then started noticing the particles rising. The result was a light yellow. I am dealing with 3 sick cats in Israel. It's the best I can do. I need help with this, no doubt. I did dose them with it anyway because simply I have nothing else I can give them. That's the story. I'm hoping I can get some kind of distiller down the line but right now I'm tapped out financially as well. So it's just blessing after blessing. Stay cool. Joy Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone more knowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A little baffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? *From: *j.sherri beitharm...@gmail.com mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com *Date: *August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT *To: *silver-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: **CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions?* Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
You have a basic setup. The primary requirements are: Use only distilled water!!! if your container is a regular 8 ounce glass, the timing should be only 30 to 45 minutes max. What you made will work fine for your animal, but try for the above next time. Just wipe off your rods with a paper towel and you'll be good to go. Stay with us, and you'll get tips for refining your process and using your product. Chuck Never eat prunes when you're famished. On 8/22/2009 3:15:51 PM, j.sherri (beitharm...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.64/2319 - Release Date: 08/22/09 06:06:00
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Hi Joy, I wouldn't recommend using the resulting brew for anything until you're sure you've actually got silver of at least .999 purity for electrodes. I get . (99.99% pure) from this site http://tinyurl.com/mnkj2t Never had any problems, and it's pretty cheap. BTW I reposted this to the list, so others might be able to comment -- hope you don't mind. Once in a while hitting reply sends mail to the poster's personal address instead of the list, I'm thinking that's probably what happened with this mail. HTH, -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v'B.Trig Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy B.Trig wrote: Hi Joy, I never saw that question the first time, not sure why that is... But Joseph is right, a description of your generator setup might help. Your electrodes should definitely not be black, especially not within an hour. Are you sure you're working with silver of at least .999 purity (i.e., 99.9% pure silver)? Also, a lot of us use those green scrubby pads to clean the silver electrodes. Maybe you had some sort of residue on there? As for the barnacles well, I do hope you're not using sea water! ;) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRE: Making first batch
***smacks forehead*** Of *course*, the water! I tend to take that for granted -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v'B.Trig On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 04:15:38PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: You have a basic setup. The primary requirements are: Use only distilled water!!! if your container is a regular 8 ounce glass, the timing should be only 30 to 45 minutes max. What you made will work fine for your animal, but try for the above next time. Just wipe off your rods with a paper towel and you'll be good to go. Stay with us, and you'll get tips for refining your process and using your product. Chuck Never eat prunes when you're famished. On 8/22/2009 3:15:51 PM, j.sherri (beitharm...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I got these rods from this guy - Pdxsilverguydotcom - (that's how he writes it) on ebay. It was a hassle and a half just to get them - but he seemed decent and has good feedback - so ordered them. I didn't clean them before doing the batch - just rinsed them off. Basically - I just connected 4 9v's to the connectors - then took the red of one side and the black of the other side connected them to the rods with the alligator clips. The rods I bent at the top - put them through a plastic lid of a jar filled with the water. Waited - made some adjustments to the clips till I did see some particles rising and waited about 3 hours. Joy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.64/2319 - Release Date: 08/22/09 06:06:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: Making first batch
Hi Joy, I never saw that question the first time, not sure why that is... But Joseph is right, a description of your generator setup might help. Your electrodes should definitely not be black, especially not within an hour. Are you sure you're working with silver of at least .999 purity (i.e., 99.9% pure silver)? Also, a lot of us use those green scrubby pads to clean the silver electrodes. Maybe you had some sort of residue on there? As for the barnacles well, I do hope you're not using sea water! ;) -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v'B.Trig On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:41:38PM -0700, Joseph Metz wrote: Hi Joy, First off, forgive this list for ignoring your question. I expected someone moreknowledgeable than myself to respond as I consider myself a newbie too. Hopefully someone answered your questions off list. This is a wonderful list but newbies do get ignored sometimes. A littlebaffling when a newbie doesn't get answered about basic CS. To answer your questions, No I probably would not drink it. No, I have never seen bubbles in mine. If you have external uses, foot bath, cuts, rashes fungus, etc., use it for that. Or maybe let it settle decant whatever sinks. Here's some questions for you. What do you mean by generator? Hows your cs maker built? Is it DC? Direct current? Do you know the voltage? If its a plug in transformer, like from radio shack, it'll say a number followed by the letter V. Are you using batteries? If you connect them end to end, like in a flashlight, you add the voltages together. Mine is a dc wall transformer, it runs 12v for 30-60 minutes, then I turn it over to reverse the polarity for another bit of time. Was this helpful? From: j.sherri [1]beitharm...@gmail.com Date: August 21, 2009 2:05:25 AM PDT To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSMaking first batch - Couple of questions? Hi, I put up a bare bones generator and both rods are black one with barnacles. Not seeing any activity such as bubbles. It's been an hour. How long does it take for the tiny bubbles to start? Is that a perquisite even? Thanks so much, Joy References 1. mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com 2. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
