[singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands?
This article http://www.physorg.com/news120735315.html made me think of Johnjoe McFadden's theory that quantum nonlocality plays a role in protein-folding http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/quantumevolution.htm H... ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms. -- Henry Miller - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=93804562-c9b06c
Re : [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands?
hello (i am a poor little computer-man but honest and i want to know before out) http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm ether:yes wave:yes lorentz:yes poincaré:yes compton:yes cabala:yes lafreniere:yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_Physics http://myprofile.cos.com/mammoth http://web.petrsu.ru/~alexk/ cahill:yes kirilyuk:yes kaivarainen:yes particule:no eiinstein:no (excuse-my)(or excuse his) fuller:yes synergetics:yes darwin:little symbiose(wave and evolution):YES YES YES YES mcfadden:possible(because wave) bohr:little(because epistemic)(excuse-my) heisenberg:no(excuse-my) schrodinger:yes(but no particle and ether) descarte:yes(i am french but i feel non-dual dual rationalism) agi:yes(attention for worker) good french polemic cordialement votre bruno - Message d'origine De : Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : singularity@v2.listbox.com Envoyé le : Mardi, 5 Février 2008, 17h32mn 47s Objet : [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands? This article http://www.physorg.com/news120735315.html made me think of Johnjoe McFadden's theory that quantum nonlocality plays a role in protein-folding http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/quantumevolution.htm H... ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms. -- Henry Miller - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?; _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail http://mail.yahoo.fr - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=93900570-9f9f5e
[singularity] mass-market Singularity fiction
The new Terminator series brings up againhttp://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2008/02/new-terminator-show-brings-singularity.htmlthe concept of mass-market Singularity fiction. The folly of argument from fiction has been discussed enough. I want to raise another question: What is the relevance, if any, of Singularity fiction? Speculative fiction has often influenced the real world. Walden 2, Old-New Land, Utopia, 1984, Brave New World, etc. changed people's political outlook. Science fiction inspired many people to become engineers and scientists, including some who accomplished great things. What is the real-world role of Singularity fiction? Should we differentiate between fiction which reaches the narrow intellectual/geek audience and that which spreads to a mass audience? Should we use fiction as a platform for getting attention by contrasting it to a more insightful analysis (as in the SIAI I Robot campaign) ? Or can we hold up specific works of fiction, with all their limitations, as inspiration for working to attain a better future or head off threats? Joshua - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=93892203-2c9636
Re: Re : Re : Re : [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands?
Bruno, Posting these links without any comprehensible commentary is not very useful ... so I think you should stop ... If you have some discussion about the information being pointed to, and its relevance to this thread or other possibly Singularity-relevant issues, that would be welcome... thanks Ben Goertzel List Owner On Feb 5, 2008 4:36 PM, Bruno Frandemiche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello,too me(stop me if you have the thue,i am very open) http://www.spaceandmotion.com/wave-structure-matter-theorists.htm cordialement votre bruno - Message d'origine De : Bruno Frandemiche [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : singularity@v2.listbox.com Envoyé le : Mardi, 5 Février 2008, 21h42mn 07s Objet : Re : Re : [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands? hell-o http://freespace.virgin.net/ch.thompson1/ inquiry,reflexion,judgement:yes heating knowledge:no the true is always subjectif,contextuel or intersubjectif and therefore social cordialement votre bruno - Message d'origine De : Bruno Frandemiche [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : singularity@v2.listbox.com Envoyé le : Mardi, 5 Février 2008, 20h52mn 03s Objet : Re : [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands? hello (i am a poor little computer-man but honest and i want to know before out) http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm ether:yes wave:yes lorentz:yes poincaré:yes compton:yes cabala:yes lafreniere:yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_Physics http://myprofile.cos.com/mammoth http://web.petrsu.ru/~alexk/ cahill:yes kirilyuk:yes kaivarainen:yes particule:no eiinstein:no (excuse-my)(or excuse his) fuller:yes synergetics:yes darwin:little symbiose(wave and evolution):YES YES YES YES mcfadden:possible(because wave) bohr:little(because epistemic)(excuse-my) heisenberg:no(excuse-my) schrodinger:yes(but no particle and ether) descarte:yes(i am french but i feel non-dual dual rationalism) agi:yes(attention for worker) good french polemic cordialement votre bruno - Message d'origine De : Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : singularity@v2.listbox.com Envoyé le : Mardi, 5 Février 2008, 17h32mn 47s Objet : [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands? This article http://www.physorg.com/news120735315.html made me think of Johnjoe McFadden's theory that quantum nonlocality plays a role in protein-folding http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/quantumevolution.htm H... ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms. -- Henry Miller - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?; Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?; Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?; Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?; -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms. -- Henry Miller - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=93974413-c8d738
Re: [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands? Sounds like the DNA phantom effect.
This has been old news in natural healing circles since the 80's. Anyone ever hear of the DNA Phantom Effect? A Russian scientist apparently created a residual hologram of DNA after firing a laser in the path of DNA then removing it from the beam. This was presumed to arise from DNA's quantum characteristics, which at that point was all theoretical. The test was never replicated, but scientists speculated that in the near future it could be. I'm surprised there was a research team following up on the quantum connection to DNA replication. http://www.frontiernet.net/~kbrill/Gallery/PIOE.htm - Original Message From: Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: singularity@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 11:32:47 AM Subject: [singularity] Quantum resonance btw DNA strands? This article http://www.physorg.com/news120735315.html made me think of Johnjoe McFadden's theory that quantum nonlocality plays a role in protein-folding http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/quantumevolution.htm H... ben -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms. -- Henry Miller - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?; - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=94063284-aefb41
[singularity] Re: [wta-talk] Hughes and S^
On Feb 5, 2008 10:45 PM, Hughes, James J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there isn't empirical evidence (i.e. a poll showing it) that Singularitarians believe in the imminence of such a thing. As I've said, I'm very interested to find out. I suspect that you are right that there is quite a lot of diversity in your ranks about beliefs and expectations. I renew my offer to help SIAI and whoever design and administer such a survey. If you or anyone else wants to survey the transhumanist population, just send me a list of questions, and I'll set it up and send it to wta-talk, or SL4, or wherever you will. -- - Tom http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/tom - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=94087404-f7a2c3
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Hi Bruno, effectively,my commentary is very short so excuse-my(i drive my pc with my eyes because i am a a.l.s with tracheo and gastro and i was a speaker,not a writer and it's difficult) Well that is certainly a good reason for your commentaries being short! hello ben ok ,i stop,no problem i am thinking mcfadden'theory was possible right because of wave-matter-structure and no-particle-matter-structure Certainly the wave nature of matter is a necessary prerequisite for McFadden's theory to be correct -- but that's already built into quantum mechanics, right? The question is whether proteins really function as macroscopic quantum systems, in the way that McFadden suggests. They may or may not, but I don't think the answer is obvious from the wave nature of matter... -- Ben - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=94096411-d20c12
Re: [singularity] Re: [wta-talk] Hughes and S^
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Thomas McCabe wrote: If you or anyone else wants to survey the transhumanist population, just send me a list of questions, and I'll set it up and send it to wta-talk, or SL4, or wherever you will. SurveyMonkey? Actually, there are many of these services out there. - Bryan Bryan Bishop http://heybryan.org/ - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604id_secret=94100029-1481cf
