[SLUG] xfstt
Hello, I've installed xfstt and it works fine except when it comes to symbol (and a few other fonts). When netscape tries to render symbol it just puts a blank space there, and gfontsel (and also the gimp font selector) display symbol as an option but when selected the preview area just goes blank. (I can't use xfontsel to view it as the drop-down menu is too long and falls off the screen). Anyone had this problem before, or have any idea what the problem could be? Please cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks __john_f__ [quotes picked randomly] Q: Do you know what the death rate around here is? A: One per person. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] problem in star office
any star office user knows how to use javascript in the event property of the forms made using adbas-d i need code to run insert,update sql statements using javascript which can be used on event property of the forms can anybody help me mohit Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Serial Ports, Modem and an ISA card
trying to set up a modem today. minicom couldn't initialise it... the modem (external dynalink 56k) worked fine under windows (though different machine)... looking thru dmesg showed the serial ports were seen... /dev/modem was linked to /dev/ttyS0, modem was cabled to COM1 there was some suggestion from a deja search that having an ISA card in the machine (expansion to add 2nd parallel port) might interfere with probing, anyone experience anything like that ?? i was at a loss to where to go from here... later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: RH - debian problems (PLEASE no war please ;-)
redhat (and the others) conveniently ignore this little license issue No you are confusing Debian rules with Open Source. Debian adheres to strict filesystem layout rules, but Open Source is looser. Pine is Open Source, it just cannot be distributed with modified layout. As for economic benefit, I doubt if pine brings in the dollars. Conspiracy theories are cheap. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Samba
Hey marty,
webmin doesn't read the linuxconf or predifined values correctly.
The block of values added at the begining by webmin are OK, I've found
webmin to be great to get the commands correct at least.
I've found you need to go comment our the commands that are in there twice.
Restart Samba and you should be swoit.
Thats prob your only real problem. THe duplicate commands.
dave
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
marty
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2000 5:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Samba
in other news...
setting up samba on same machine that was having the serial 'issues'...
every other service can be accessed from a network of five Win98 machines
(http, telnet, ftp) but none of them can see the SMB server...
daemons were running...
testparm reported no errors...
i have attached the smb.conf {which has been seperately mauled by me, then
linuxconf and finally webmin :( }
anyone point out an error ? any gotchas that i missed ?
later
marty
PS - three cheers for the sorry souls having to fix the winch for the
cauldron in the wet and under the pressure of 4 billion eyeballs...
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RE: [SLUG] Serial Ports, Modem and an ISA card
Make sure you do minicom -s and change the serial port to /dev/ttyS0. you prob don't have the correct symlink to /dev/modem. or try S1. Those dynalink externals are quite good modems. My current recommendation for 56k external modem. THey rock. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marty Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2000 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Serial Ports, Modem and an ISA card trying to set up a modem today. minicom couldn't initialise it... the modem (external dynalink 56k) worked fine under windows (though different machine)... looking thru dmesg showed the serial ports were seen... /dev/modem was linked to /dev/ttyS0, modem was cabled to COM1 there was some suggestion from a deja search that having an ISA card in the machine (expansion to add 2nd parallel port) might interfere with probing, anyone experience anything like that ?? i was at a loss to where to go from here... later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dexxa Optical Mouse on XFree86 3.3.6
Ok thanks. I'll give it a go. Kevin wrote: I have a Dexxa optical mouse could anyone tell me how to configure it? so that I can run it under XFree86 3.3.6 Just configure it as a M$ PS/2 and it will work fine. You will only get 3 of the 5 buttons going but thats all I ever use anyway *8-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dexxa Optical Mouse on XFree86 3.3.6
I have a Dexxa optical mouse could anyone tell me how to configure it? so that I can run it under XFree86 3.3.6 Just configure it as a M$ PS/2 and it will work fine. You will only get 3 of the 5 buttons going but thats all I ever use anyway *8-) Is this a wheel mouse? Remember that the wheely (I won't mention my nickname for it on the list this time) takes up two buttons, so on a "three" button mouse with wheely, you've actually got five buttons. ObAsciiArt: _ | | (4) | | | | | | | 1 | 3 | 2 | | | | | | | (5) | | |-| | | Some kind soul will tell me if I've | | stuffed up the ordering, I'm sure. :) | | | | | | | | | | `-' XFree86 = 3 doesn't recognise more than five buttons, so on wheely mice, you're done. XFree86 4 recognises more, but I don't know how many. Anyone? - Jeff -- please excuse the email software :) -- i haven't gnu parted the hard drives at work (yet) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dexxa Optical Mouse on XFree86 3.3.6
Jeff Waugh wrote: I have a Dexxa optical mouse could anyone tell me how to configure it? so that I can run it under XFree86 3.3.6 Just configure it as a M$ PS/2 and it will work fine. You will only get 3 of the 5 buttons going but thats all I ever use anyway *8-) Is this a wheel mouse? Remember that the wheely (I won't mention my nickname for it on the list this time) takes up two buttons, so on a "three" button mouse with wheely, you've actually got five buttons. Yes, the dexxa is a wheel mouse and if the above is true then the dexxa mouse has 6 buttons. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dexxa Optical Mouse on XFree86 3.3.6
Yes, the dexxa is a wheel mouse and if the above is true then the dexxa mouse has 6 buttons. Kind of like the MS Explorer mice with the flaming bum (he says, patting his mouse like Mr. Bigglesworth), only these ones have seven. I find the extra two kind of awkward though, but then I haven't been able to use them until this week. :) WORLD DOMINATION IS NIGH! - Jeff -- please excuse the email software :) -- i haven't gnu parted the hard drives at work (yet) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Video Capture Card
Hi all I have just installed a video capture card it's a BT878 chipset the box says "APAC ViewComp 878". I am running RH6.2 with an 2.2.16 kernel, RedHat said it found the card and supposidly configured the card. I have installed xawtv. I have been trying to configure it to 1 try and view all 5 channels ( if you consider SBS a station) 2 and also trying to get my video playing on the card. Under win***s environment I have to use antenna rather than video, s-video, or composit but I guess it is the software that I was given. Can anyone please help me with this? Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Win Networking
just out of morbid curiosity, is it actually possible for a Windows machine to use more then one network adaptor... ie. with a modem and NIC all it wants to do when presented with a request for say, an intranet server, is dial an internet connection... hosing the settings for the 'Dial up adaptor' can make it see the LAN, but i can't have both, can i ? later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Youll need to say what your actual problem is =) what is and isnt working in linux? or is it windows help your after? Dean Kevin wrote: Hi all I have just installed a video capture card it's a BT878 chipset the box says "APAC ViewComp 878". I am running RH6.2 with an 2.2.16 kernel, RedHat said it found the card and supposidly configured the card. I have installed xawtv. I have been trying to configure it to 1 try and view all 5 channels ( if you consider SBS a station) 2 and also trying to get my video playing on the card. Under win***s environment I have to use antenna rather than video, s-video, or composit but I guess it is the software that I was given. Can anyone please help me with this? Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win Networking
Windows can have more than one NIC. I cant say ive ever had any problems with windows and multiple nics although im sure you could make it choke on something if you tried Dean marty wrote: just out of morbid curiosity, is it actually possible for a Windows machine to use more then one network adaptor... ie. with a modem and NIC all it wants to do when presented with a request for say, an intranet server, is dial an internet connection... hosing the settings for the 'Dial up adaptor' can make it see the LAN, but i can't have both, can i ? later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Serial Ports, Modem and an ISA card
On the ISA card, which I assume is a multi-function card, have you disabled the serial ports; you probably have an interrupt conflict problem. I thought that might be an issue... but i couldn't see anything in dmesg about it... it's attached if you want to find anything i might have missed... later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam Linux version 2.2.12-20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Mon Sep 27 10:40:35 EDT 1999 Detected 567966735 Hz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 566.89 BogoMIPS Memory: 62720k/65472k available (1008k kernel code, 412k reserved, 988k data, 64k init) DENTRY hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 03 Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX mtrr: v1.35a (19990819) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb160 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: 00:38 [1106/0596]: Work around ISA DMA hangs (00) Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds. Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 65536 bhash 65536) Initializing RT netlink socket Starting kswapd v 1.5 Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.9) Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe000-0xe007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio keyboard: Too many NACKs -- noisy kbd cable? keyboard: Too many NACKs -- noisy kbd cable? hda: FUJITSU MPF3102AT, ATA DISK drive hdc: SONY CDU4811, ATAPI CDROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: FUJITSU MPF3102AT, 9773MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1245/255/63 hdc: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12 raid5: measuring checksumming speed raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines pII_mmx : 1263.015 MB/sec p5_mmx: 1326.642 MB/sec 8regs : 975.360 MB/sec 32regs: 546.735 MB/sec using fastest function: p5_mmx (1326.642 MB/sec) scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096 Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 autodetecting RAID arrays autorun ... ... autorun DONE. VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). autodetecting RAID arrays autorun ... ... autorun DONE. VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 64k freed Adding Swap: 602396k swap-space (priority -1)
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Kevin wrote:
Hi all
I have just installed a video capture card
it's a BT878 chipset the box says "APAC ViewComp 878".
...snip
Can anyone please help me with this?
what exactly is your question?
http://www.woa.com.au/linux/how-tos/webcaminstall.html
TV reception will depend on aerial needs in your area. So you will need
some aerial plugged into it.
Make sure you have the correct video connector cable - one with one of
each at each end (rca-tv).
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RE: [SLUG] Samba
webmin doesn't read the linuxconf or predifined values correctly. The block of values added at the begining by webmin are OK, I've found webmin to be great to get the commands correct at least. I've found you need to go comment our the commands that are in there twice. Restart Samba and you should be swoit. Thats prob your only real problem. THe duplicate commands. note: it wasn't working before i fiddled with webmin... so though the duplicates might be an issue now, they couldn't have been previously... is there a methodolgy anyone uses to debug SMB ? later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Serial Ports, Modem and an ISA card
Yes, it has certainly found a couple of serial ports, but you still don't know which ones. If the others send an interrupt then it could still cause problems. For example, if it has found the ports on the MFC and a serial mouse is connected to the mobo serial port then that will give spurious interrupts. You are going to have to pull the MFC and check the jumpers, always assuming that you have the doco for it. My experience is that MFCs without doco are usually very difficult, if not impossible, to interpret what the jumpers do. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, marty wrote: On the ISA card, which I assume is a multi-function card, have you disabled the serial ports; you probably have an interrupt conflict problem. I thought that might be an issue... but i couldn't see anything in dmesg about it... it's attached if you want to find anything i might have missed... later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win Networking
is it actually possible for a Windows machine to use more then one network adaptor... ie. with a modem and NIC Yeah, this should not be a problem. It is much easier with NT, but Win platforms allow it. Make sure that your DNS resolution is set up so that it uses a remote name server, and you may have to refer to machines by IP address unless you are using their WINS host name (which is assuming that all the other machines networked to afforementioned Win machine are running Samba : ) Stephen -- Who was as drunk as the Govenor General during the opening ceremony last night -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Need Linux people who can speak non-English languages
Hi all, I need some people who can speak non-English languages to kick off an initiative related to the GNOME Project. All that's required is to translate a simple paragraph and present it for email and press-release. You will of course be credited! I'd like to have as many languages represented as possible, so if you know anyone who speaks in tongues (!) please let them know we have something they can contribute to! It's one small task right now, but there's a lot of fun ahead if you or someone you know would like to leap in. This is a great way of getting involved, and giving back to the community. - Jeff -- please excuse the email software :) -- i haven't gnu parted the hard drives at work (yet) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
My problem is that I can't get the card to view any channels in Linux nor am I able to view the video either. Youll need to say what your actual problem is =) what is and isnt working in linux? or is it windows help your after? Dean Kevin wrote: Hi all I have just installed a video capture card it's a BT878 chipset the box says "APAC ViewComp 878". I am running RH6.2 with an 2.2.16 kernel, RedHat said it found the card and supposidly configured the card. I have installed xawtv. I have been trying to configure it to 1 try and view all 5 channels ( if you consider SBS a station) 2 and also trying to get my video playing on the card. Under win***s environment I have to use antenna rather than video, s-video, or composit but I guess it is the software that I was given. Can anyone please help me with this? Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem is that I can't get the card to view any channels in Linux nor am I able to view the video either. I'm no expert on this issue but i got mine working ages ago with a bit of help from some sluggers and the bttv-howto. it is very comprehensive. check out linuxdoc.org. Arun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Now all we need are symptoms and log / error outputs Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem is that I can't get the card to view any channels in Linux nor am I able to view the video either. Youll need to say what your actual problem is =) what is and isnt working in linux? or is it windows help your after? Dean Kevin wrote: Hi all I have just installed a video capture card it's a BT878 chipset the box says "APAC ViewComp 878". I am running RH6.2 with an 2.2.16 kernel, RedHat said it found the card and supposidly configured the card. I have installed xawtv. I have been trying to configure it to 1 try and view all 5 channels ( if you consider SBS a station) 2 and also trying to get my video playing on the card. Under win***s environment I have to use antenna rather than video, s-video, or composit but I guess it is the software that I was given. Can anyone please help me with this? Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Need Linux people who can speak non-English languages
I need some people who can speak non-English languages to kick off an initiative related to the GNOME Project. I've just been (quite rightly) corrected - I'd like to hear from people who can *write* non-English languages (and have a knack for English - X language translations). Thanks 8) - Jeff -- please excuse the email software :) -- i haven't gnu parted the hard drives at work (yet) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] automating 'next' in gdb dubugger
It has been a long time since I have used the gdb dubugger. I am steping through a large program and would like to automate the 'next' command from breakpoint A to breakpoint B. How can I automate the 'next' command in this case? TIA. -- Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] RH - debian problems (from Mike Lake)
Alex Salmon yesterday i decided to delete my whole system and start afresh.. I downloaded debian (the 1st cd) and burnt it then said goodbye to my mandrake system. Ah. I have just done the same with my Alpha. Yes Debian will take me some time to get used to as there are many difs. Unfortunately there are boot probs with the Alpha CDs as burnt but after a day I had a working system. I just can't turn it off yet! Iv'e subscribed to the debian-alpha list and they were very helpful in solving some of my major probs. I have some minor probs left. 1. In RH I configured the Alt-arrow buttons to lower and raise windows and the Ctrl-arrow keys to switch desktops. This was done with a graphical tool which no longer seems to be supplied. Neither the new Gnome or new Enlightenment has this. How do I set keyboard behavior. I grepped through the enlightenment dirs but prob didn't grep for the right words. 2. The Gnome dialog boxes are all appearing too narrow. The buttons all overlap by about 10% of their width instead of being separated. There is a big blank section to the right of them. Ie the widget container that holds them is correct sized but the buttons are alll too far to the left. Anyone seen this before? 3. What package provides Xt.h ? I need it to compile gvim as Debian's gvim is not compiled for X (yes there is a gvim-gtk bininary deb package but when you run it it says "GUI not compiled in"). I can't edit with out gvim :-) PS. I'm a proud Pine fan and will certainly be pulling down Pine :-) Mike-- Michael Lake Active caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. Safety Convenor, Australian Speleological Federation Owner, Speleonics (Australia) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dexxa Optical Mouse on XFree86 3.3.6
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Jeff Waugh generated: I find the extra two kind of awkward though, but then I haven't been able to use them until this week. :) Raise and lower in your wm, cycle weapon in Q3A :) -- jamesw Usenet is essentially a HUGE group of people passing notes in class. -- R. Kadel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Ok the problem is that I can't see any TV stations. I guess it is because I do not have the right .xawtv cofig file. I have tried .xawtv from a minihowto that I found but it was for US cable tv and not for Australian environment. Now all we need are symptoms and log / error output My problem is that I can't get the card to view any channels in Linux nor am I able to view the video either. Youll need to say what your actual problem is =) what is and isnt working in linux? or is it -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] [Totaly OT] Chant
This is completely and totally OT but I'm going to ask it anyway Does anyone know the origins of the chant "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi" Peter -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: RH - debian problems (PLEASE no war please ;-)
Ken Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
redhat (and the others) conveniently ignore this little license issue
No you are confusing Debian rules with Open Source. Debian adheres to
strict filesystem layout rules, but Open Source is looser. Pine is Open
Source, it just cannot be distributed with modified layout. As for
economic benefit, I doubt if pine brings in the dollars. Conspiracy
theories are cheap.
No I think you haven't got your facts straight. Here's the bit from Pine's
lincense:
: Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
: documentation for any purpose and without fee to the University of
: Washington is hereby granted, provided that these legal notices appear in
: all copies and supporting documentation, that the name "Pine" is retained,
: and that the name of the University of Washington is not used in
: advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software
: without specific, written prior permission. This software is made
: available "as is".
:
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Re: [SLUG] automating 'next' in gdb dubugger
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 09:08:03AM +, Subba Rao wrote:
It has been a long time since I have used the gdb dubugger.
I am steping through a large program and would like to
automate the 'next' command from breakpoint A to breakpoint B.
How can I automate the 'next' command in this case?
you could put it in a while loop, but I think you can only use
program variables in the condition not gdb state -- I can't get
a decent condition on $pc to work. In any case, what you want to
do is probably better done by with watchpoints or (for examining
a loop) attaching commands to a new breakpoint between A and B.
("help watch", "help commands")
OTOH if you're using gdb interactively, just hitting 'enter' will
repeat the last command for you.
Conrad.
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Re: [SLUG] Win Networking
Before I actually answer the question, I'd like to echo the thoughts expressed earlier this week by saying: THIS IS NOT A LINUX QUESTION. yup... guilty as charged... but, as was pointed out earlier this week, what's the other OS you have to lay your fingers on when configuring interoperatbility with samba ? :( Regardless, just to make amends for my rant: Yes you can have both, especially if you're running NT. is there a method or is it magic ? ;) later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Totaly OT] Chant
Peter wrote: This is completely and totally OT but I'm going to ask it anyway Does anyone know the origins of the chant "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi" been going to too many olymic events have we? Arun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [Totaly OT] Chant
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Peter wrote: err, iirc the 'oi oi oi' bit is a soccer hooligans chant. it was probably plagiarised from there.. please correct me if i'm wrong. This is completely and totally OT but I'm going to ask it anyway Does anyone know the origins of the chant "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi" Peter Paladin Corporation Pty Ltd.ACN: 081191611ABN: 72081191611 Software Engineering: c/c++/perl/sql/eiffel/pascal/haskell/php Powered by Symetric Multiple Processors running on FreeBSD/SMP The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne - Chaucer NIC: NW83-AU ICQ: 61730896 FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, SCO, Debian Ph: +612 9835-4782 Fax: +612 9864-0487Mobile: 0416-207-857 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
Has anybody been able to visit the www.olympics.com website in Netscape? I went there (on cable), and it sits there loading data and image accesories. I let it run for a while and stopped it after downloading 6.8Mb (!) of page bits and image bits. For a modem user, this equates to about 35 minutes on a 56k modem. This is just loading the one main page (!) What is going on? Andrew. -- The Third Twice Annual Secret Aussie ICQ Meet - November 2000 For further information, visit http://www.secret.com.au/icq/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Andrew Macks wrote: Has anybody been able to visit the www.olympics.com website in Netscape? I went there (on cable), and it sits there loading data and image accesories. I let it run for a while and stopped it after downloading 6.8Mb (!) of page bits and image bits. For a modem user, this equates to about 35 minutes on a 56k modem. This is just loading the one main page (!) What is going on? Did a little more research, it seems to be recursively loading http://www.olympics.com/common/fragments/common_js.js Clocked up 1,073 visits in my Netscape history, putting it third in my Netscape history ;) This is quite sad when people can't make such an important site work on demand. Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My problem is that I can't get the card to
view any channels in Linux nor am I able
to view the video either.
I use xawtv to change channels?
What are you using?
There was a xawtv settigs posted to the list recently.
Remember xawtv can corrupt this file, so I tend to edit by hand.
You can also set up your cameras/video as a channel under xawtv.
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Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok the problem is that I can't see any TV stations.
I guess it is because I do not have the right
.xawtv cofig file. I have tried .xawtv from
a minihowto that I found but it was for US cable
tv and not for Australian environment.
basically you change the freq to pal-aust.
BTW - turn on debug in your insmod and tail /var/log/messages for
results. That will allow you to check that these are set okay.
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Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Andrew Macks wrote: This is quite sad when people can't make such an important site work on demand. Sorry Andrew. Olympics != important. It saddens me enormously when otherwise intelligent people like Sluggers are sucked into enthusiasm for this idiotic global parasite infesting Sydney at the moment. Please, somebody, just make it go away. -- David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ich fuhle, Luft von anderen Planeten" Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win Networking
marty wrote:
just out of morbid curiosity, is it actually possible for a Windows
machine to use more then one network adaptor... ie. with a modem and NIC
all it wants to do when presented with a request for say, an intranet
server, is dial an internet connection... hosing the settings for the
'Dial up adaptor' can make it see the LAN, but i can't have both, can i ?
So, you are agreeing to shout a round for sluggers at the pub after the
next meeting by asking a windows question on the slug list are we?
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Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
This is quite sad when people can't make such an important site work on This *is* IBM we're talking about - the most incompetent fools I've ever dealt with.. expect the worst. //umar. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
James Wilkinson wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] generated: Ok the problem is that I can't see any TV stations. I guess it is because I do not have the right .xawtv cofig file. I have tried .xawtv from a minihowto that I found but it was for US cable tv and not for Australian environment. if you rtfm you'll see there's a line you change in the .xawtv file that says freqtab = australia Sorry james that is not the problem. The problem is that I do not have us cable tv connection. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Terry Collins wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My problem is that I can't get the card to
view any channels in Linux nor am I able
to view the video either.
I use xawtv to change channels?
What are you using?
There was a xawtv settigs posted to the list recently.
Remember xawtv can corrupt this file, so I tend to edit by hand.
You can also set up your cameras/video as a channel under xawtv.
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Where can I find that info. because I have tried using my own .xawtv
script
to find the display a blue screen with nothing but static comming from
my audio
Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] Samba
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 11:34:34PM +1100, marty wrote: is there a methodolgy anyone uses to debug SMB ? RTFM? :) Have a look at the DIAGNOSIS.txt which should come with your distribution. Also HINTS.txt. HINT: Always test your smb.conf with testparm before using it -- chesty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
My problem is that I can't get the card to view any channels in Linux nor am I able to view the video either. I use xawtv to change channels? I am also xawtv to change channels There was a xawtv settigs posted to the list recently. Remember xawtv can corrupt this file, so I tend to edit by hand. Ok thanks You can also set up your cameras/video as a channel under xawtv. I would like to get the video working as well. it seems that the problem is I might be going down the wrong track when I boot the system up in windows and record all the channel settings and video settins and try to replicate them to Linux I don't get the same results. also I have tried the sample xawtv config file from Jeff Waugh and that doesn't work either. All I get is static from audio and half blue and black screen on the display. is there a way that I can "scan" through the channels and find out that works and what doesn't? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Kevin wrote:
..snip...
Where can I find that info. because I have tried using my own .xawtv
script
to find the display a blue screen with nothing but static comming from
my audio
I've attached one of mine to this message.
Unfortunately SUSE 6.4 doesn't respond to alt+c for copy alt+v for
paste across all windows, otherwise it would be in the message.
You can ignore the colour, contrat and brightness settings.
Blue screen means you are getting no signal. Where is your video plugged
into? Are you using an RCA plug into the RCA socket?
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norm = PAL
capture = on
source = Composite1
freqtab = pal-australia
pixsize = 128 x 96
jpeg-quality = 750
[Camera1]
channel = E5
key = 1
source = S-Video
[Camera2]
channel = E5
key = 3
source = Composite1
[ABC]
channel = 2
key = 2
source = Television
color = 32768
bright = 32768
hue = 32768
contrast = 32768
[7]
channel = 7
key = 7
source = Television
color = 32768
bright = 32768
hue = 32768
contrast = 32768
[9]
channel = 9
key = 9
source = Television
color = 32768
bright = 32768
hue = 32768
contrast = 32768
[10]
channel = 10
key = 0
source = Television
color = 32768
bright = 32768
hue = 32768
contrast = 32768
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Kevin wrote:
You can also set up your cameras/video as a channel under xawtv.
I would like to get the video working as well. it seems that the problem
Is your video a camera input or another TV channel. (TV?)
is I might be going down the wrong track when I boot the system up
in windows and record all the channel settings and video settins
and try to replicate them to Linux I don't get the same results.
also I have tried the sample xawtv config file from Jeff Waugh and that
doesn't work either. All I get is static from audio and half blue and
black screen on the display.
For audio - you need to have a jumper plug from the BT848 card to your
sound card. I do not know of anyone who has gotten it working directly.
I've never plugged a VCR into my bt848 - Grahame (Possum Cam) Kelly is
the man for this.
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Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
Kevin wrote:
Sorry james that is not the problem. The problem is that I do not have
us cable tv connection.
From the top of one of my cards (FM + TV + Capture), the sockets I have
are;
FM input - new screw thread that they are going to use for TV,
TV coax input (PAL? female),
Sound line output, 2.5mm socket,
Video input, RCA female,
Video input, S-video socket,
IR socket, 1.5 mm socket.
Please describe the us cable tv connector.
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Re: [SLUG] automating 'next' in gdb dubugger
Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am steping through a large program and would like to
automate the 'next' command from breakpoint A to breakpoint B.
until
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RE: [SLUG] Olympics on Optus@Home
Hmm, I am most baffled as to why Optus@Home have chosen to make their Olympics video coverage Windows Media Player 7 only. Not only does this cancel out all Linux users, but Macintosh users too! The latest version of the player for their platform is 6.3, and will not play all of 7's streaming data. Makes me wonder if Channel 7 like the version number, although RealVideo is also version 7. Actually, maybe it's 8 now [hmmm!] I guess it's a bit late to do anything useful about it, but if you wanted, you could write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and complain about it (Optus@Home customers especially :P) It is quite possible that optus is multicasting the olympics, therefore can only use MP7 as real does not support multicasting. just a thought Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video Capture Card
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Kevin generated: James Wilkinson wrote: if you rtfm you'll see there's a line you change in the .xawtv file that says freqtab = australia Sorry james that is not the problem. The problem is that I do not have us cable tv connection. Huh? The freqtab line tells xawtv what tuner settings to use, not how the card is wired. here's my .xawtv, snipped: -- [global] freqtab = australia pixsize = 128 x 96 pixcols = 1 jpeg-quality = 75 mjpeg-quality = 75 keypad-ntsc = no osd = yes [defaults] norm = PAL capture = over source = Television [AV] source = s-video [ABC] channel = 2 key = F2 - and so on, similar settings for other channels -- jamesw Usenet is essentially a HUGE group of people passing notes in class. -- R. Kadel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
David, as the father of an Olympic athelete, and one who is very aware of the sacrifices that my son has made to get where he is, I find your remark to be most offensive. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, David Fisher wrote: On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Andrew Macks wrote: This is quite sad when people can't make such an important site work on demand. Sorry Andrew. Olympics != important. It saddens me enormously when otherwise intelligent people like Sluggers are sucked into enthusiasm for this idiotic global parasite infesting Sydney at the moment. Please, somebody, just make it go away. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Long: Kernel Compilation questions sound
Hi I have a Debian Woody system running on a asus k7v motherboard with an Athlon 700 cpu. I have a SB Live! value card. Currently, I'm trying to get sound to work so (I found from the mailing lists I've subscribed to) that there are a few options: 1. compile the kernel; there is a sb driver 2. use the emu10k1 driver from opensource.creative.com and load as a module 3. install the ALSA debs I started on option 2 thinking that may be the easiest but could not compile because I lacked the kernel sources. So, I apt-get install'd kernel-source-2.2.17. And then thought (since I wanted to, anyway) why not compile the kernel while I'm at it with the sb driver. But I discovered (you can learn a lot on mailing lists!) that the config file (/boot/config-2.2.17) for my current kernel (think it's 2.2.17; that's what uname -a says) has CONFIG_SOUND=m | CONFIG_SOUND_PAS=m CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m | CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND=y So, if I've got the sb driver as a module why not load it and see what happens? But this is where my knowledge is hazy; I don't know how to load modules. Well, I did a modprobe sound; don't know exactly what that did. lsmod reveals sound, soundlow and soundcore (but no sound) and so I tried modprobe sb which says that /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o: init_module: device or resource busy ... says that the IO or IRQ parameters could be wrong. That may well be the case - I will have a go at that later. And, at some other time (trying insmod maybe) I got a bunch of unresolved symbols) So, my questions: what is the procedure for loading modules into the kernel? Is there some good resource somebody could point me at for learning about modules in general for a Linux|Debian newbie? What is the best driver for the SBLive? - the kernel driver, the emu10k1 or alsa? or does it depend on what you do? I just want to play CD's, listen to MP3's and play games. And, in compiling the kernel what process family should I pick for my Athlon? 386, 486, 586, Pentium? (I know 386 works for everything?) Plus I have a IBM Deskstar 75gxp which is udma66; how can I tell how fast it's going; are there kernel options I can set to improve speed (not that I'm complaining - seems fine to me; just that I'm curious). Thanks Jonathan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
As an Aussie who likes to see anything done well.. I find it pretty offensive too. What is wrong with this country is that we don't yet realise we can do things as well as any place in the world - whether it's opening ceremonies, building great sporting facilities or writing software. Why oh why am i using a computer designed in the USA and built in Singapore??? Time we woke up to our possibilities in this country. Maybe the Olympics are the chance to prove Aussies can do things BETTER than any where else in the world, instead of being world champion knockers!! On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote: David, as the father of an Olympic athelete, and one who is very aware of the sacrifices that my son has made to get where he is, I find your remark to be most offensive. -- Howard. Olympics != important. It saddens me enormously when otherwise intelligent people like Sluggers are sucked into enthusiasm for this idiotic global parasite infesting Sydney at the moment. Please, somebody, just make it go away. David (a different david) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
That's what I don't like. The inequity of values we place on things. Sport is just bread and circuses for the masses, while the rest of the country slowly goes to hell in a relaxed and comfortable manner. Rachel, Thank you for so intelligently articulating the issues at hand here. I have made a private reply to Howard as I don't think this list is the place to debate the issue. Anybody taking issue with my thoughts on this can feel free to flaming me privately. I'm up to it. -- David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ich fuhle, Luft von anderen Planeten" Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] [OT] 'lympics (was: Re: More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!)
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Rachel Polanskis generated: I do tend to agree though - where are the Olympics for those people who do things like discover new technologies or save the environment or a treatment for some disease and whatever? Without trying to continue this off-topic thread, Rachel just reminded me of something my friend said while we were watching the Opening Ceremony. There is a giant Cathy Freeman on a wall, you can see this driving towards the bridge on the Western Distributor. My friends comment when he saw this was "What has Cathy Freeman done for this country? She runs fast." Anyway, this is now off-topic, but just some food for thought. -- jamesw Usenet is essentially a HUGE group of people passing notes in class. -- R. Kadel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Base Document Format
What's is the go for ducumentation these days. Assuming I want to document something and then fairly easily ie automatically turn it into any of the folowing and have it look fairly close to the original. * HTML * PDF * Postscript * Text maybe even * Info pages * Man pages I'm currently thinking the only thing that really has all the tools is SGML but I've never realy played with it. Most I've really used is latex but you can only really convert that into decent pdf and ps. html isn't too bad but anything else usually sucks. -- John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Base Document Format
John Ferlito wrote: What's is the go for ducumentation these days. Assuming I want to document something and then fairly easily ie automatically turn it into any of the folowing and have it look fairly close to the original. You seek DocBook! I'm currently thinking the only thing that really has all the tools is SGML but I've never realy played with it. Most I've really used is latex but you can only really convert that into decent pdf and ps. html isn't too bad but anything else usually sucks. Well, you're going to get flamed for that last comment. TeX is very good for producing ps/pdf. Whilst I'm a visual DTP sucker, I can still value the beautiful text that comes from the average TeX processed document. Lovely stuff. DocBook is perfect for what you're doing though (and you can process it with TeX as well!) so you should check out docbook.org, read the definitive guide (O'Reilly book also published on docbook.org) and if you feel like it, grab the GNOME Project's docbook stylesheets - they're very yummy. You can find them on the GDP site on gnome.org. Get in touch if you need help setting it up or anything. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
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never realy played with it. Most I've really used is latex but you can only really convert that into decent pdf and ps. html isn't too bad but anything else usually sucks. Well, you're going to get flamed for that last comment. TeX is very good for producing ps/pdf. Whilst I'm a visual DTP sucker, I can still value the Yeah that's what I said :) latex rocks. Just isn't great if all you want to do is print out what you did in latex ie ps/pdf. beautiful text that comes from the average TeX processed document. Lovely stuff. DocBook is perfect for what you're doing though (and you can process it with TeX as well!) so you should check out docbook.org, read the definitive guide (O'Reilly book also published on docbook.org) and if you feel like it, grab the GNOME Project's docbook stylesheets - they're very yummy. You can find them on the GDP site on gnome.org. Yep I remembered docbook just after I typed :wq :) Get in touch if you need help setting it up or anything. Will do. Thanks -- John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Base Document Format
...and what's wrong with a good ol' .doc. Surely 100M's can't all be wrong. (8-P -- Howard. (running, ducking weaving) __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, John Ferlito wrote: What's is the go for ducumentation these days. Assuming I want to document something and then fairly easily ie automatically turn it into any of the folowing and have it look fairly close to the original. * HTML * PDF * Postscript * Text maybe even * Info pages * Man pages I'm currently thinking the only thing that really has all the tools is SGML but I've never realy played with it. Most I've really used is latex but you can only really convert that into decent pdf and ps. html isn't too bad but anything else usually sucks. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] More Anti-Linux Olympic madness!
Olympics != important. It saddens me enormously when otherwise intelligent people like Sluggers are sucked into enthusiasm for this idiotic global parasite infesting Sydney at the moment. Please, somebody, just make it go away. What do you expect - when the head of the IOC is more interested in kissing ass at the opening ceremony than being with his ill wife (who, I'm saddened to say, subsequently died) - THIS is the body from which people expect intelligence ? And they give the "honor" of lighting the flame to Freeman (who was vocal about an Abo protest at the opening, and supported it - did they do this just to shut her up ??), instead of someone who has really contributed to sport in this country - someone like Bradman.. BTW, have a look at www.silly2000.com = best "olympic" site yet... Sorry for the OT = the whole Olympic thing is a complete and total cock-up, IMHO... \J -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
