Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X?
quote who="Arunava Sen" Just one more thing usb mouse... how did you set it up? and what kernel and distro(if any) are you using? You're supposed to tell *us* those things! ;) Kernel: 2.4.0-test9 i686 X: XFree86 4.0.1 Distro: Debian woody I can't see why this would be different with the backported USB patches for the 2.2 kernels. /dev/mouse is softlinked to /dev/input/mice. You will probably have to create that device as described in the kernel USB documentation. The following section is in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" Option "BaudRate" "1200" Option "Resolution" "200" Option "Buttons" "7" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Works very yummily, and there's nothing like the flaming bum of an Intellimouse Explorer lighting up the room at 3 in the morning. ;) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- It's depressing to see such useful code wasted on such a useless license. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X?
Im running Dean-Hat(tm) linux Linux version 2.2.17pre16 i have in my kernel agpgart 3dfx i2c (cvs) lmsensors (cvs) v3tv (cvs) alsa 5.9d i used to have ali-ide and usb but they are now in the 2.2.x kernels Ive also been meaning to put ext3 in. X3.3.6 (i like UT, what can i say?) just get kernel 2.2.17 and compile in usb i would recommend just compiling it all the way in keyboard and mouse support, and making everything else modules. That will save you some fiddle and since mouse and keyboards are all from the same drivers anyway, i dont see any real reason not to. asuuming your using make xconfig help the little help button thingy and it tells you how to mknod the devices youll need to add none/proc/bus/usb usbdevfsdefaults 0 0 to /etc/fstab also if you wana just save yourself the effort, you can just put it on usb or get an rpm kernel (rh7 kernels have usb...) X 3.3.6 is max 5 buttons i believe, two of which are consumed by mouse scrolling. X4 has better mouse support. X apparently only requires three buttons (as in the standard kinda thing) So in X for me, the two side buttons are just clones. Ill go to X4 when glide 2 gets ported sometime soon hopefully Dean Arunava Sen wrote: Dean Hamstead wrote: The MS Intellimouse is a damned good mouse. Who cares abou their software writing skills. They should throw out all that and make peripherals. Logitech makes nice mice also, but im in love with the IM explorer. Works well in linux, esp. on usb (something that windows 95 would never do for me). the side buttons are just buttons 2 and 3 for me though... Do you mean that the side buttons are just useless clones of the left and right buttons? This is exactly what I was scared of. Thanks for responding to my post. Just one more thing usb mouse... how did you set it up? and what kernel and distro(if any) are you using? Thanks in advance Arun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Down for the ...
Every now and then when I turn on the box, RH6.x does fsck and says something to the effect maximum count reached even though the shutdown was proper and there hadn't been any running problem. What is the 'count'? and do I need more of whatever is being counted? Thanks Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Scripting literature suggestions
quote who="Conrad Parker" "set around the beginning of last year", like it's a story? Quick - before Conrad can consume any more K-juice - someone tell him about the concept of "typesetting". :D - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "The ability to procrastinate is what separates us from the machines." - Chris Gregory, Desktop Magazine -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X?
Dean Hamstead wrote: X 3.3.6 is max 5 buttons i believe, two of which are consumed by mouse scrolling. X4 has better mouse support. X apparently only requires three buttons (as in the standard kinda thing) So in X for me, the two side buttons are just clones. Thanks for all the info. Clears up all my questions. I think i'll take a risk and see if the side buttons work independently for me in XF4.0.1. Thanks again Arun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Down for the ...
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:46:53PM +1100, Richard Blackburn wrote: Every now and then when I turn on the box, RH6.x does fsck and says something to the effect maximum count reached even though the shutdown was proper and there hadn't been any running problem. What is the 'count'? and do I need more of whatever is being counted? The count is how many times the disc has been mounted. If it's been mounted a certain number of times the system does an fsck just to be on the safe side. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'We do more then just sing and dance. We've got a brain too.' -- The Backstreet Boys -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Scripting literature suggestions
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:48:13PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Conrad Parker" "set around the beginning of last year", like it's a story? Quick - before Conrad can consume any more K-juice - someone tell him about the concept of "typesetting". :D ah, my apologies. The fonts in that bash manual were, like, _so_ Fall '99. I mean really, who in their right mind would even consider using a skinny Helvetica for section headings? THIS IS THE YEAR 2000 BABY, sure it _says_ "Loops and Conditionals" but the layout is screaming "clueless" and for all I know the examples are full of syntax errors. At least, I'd hope my new copy of bash finds something wrong with them or else I'd feel juped. This whole "typing" thing is passe anyway, why is my interface so _muted_? ;) Conrad. - avoid buying books by weight, unless they were written by Stevens -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Debian newbie guide for existing linux users
\begin{Jeff Waugh}
quote who="Doug Stalker"
So lets assume for a moment I want to get X windows working, preferably
with Helix Gnome.
First off, run either:
a) tasksel, and choose the "X Window System" task, or,
b) apt-get install task-x-window-system
apt-get install task-helix-gnome
you could just install task-helix-gnome. hopefully that would end up
pulling in all of X too.
one of the problems with only using apt-get to install stuff, is that
you miss out on "suggested" and "recommended" packages. when you don't
quite know what you want, these suggestions are very useful. if you
really hate dselect that much, i'd suggest trying aptitude or
gnome-apt.
I need to install the SVGA server - I'm sure it's on one of the three CDs,
but how do I get it off there? Man Xfree86_SVGA won't tell me how to
install it in the first place.
The best bit is that it's all anally packaged, and ready to go as soon as
you install it. It's all standard, and it all makes sense.
Potato includes some debconf things, but I'm not entirely sure what for. X
is certainly configured as it's installed.
of course by these jeff means:
"X is *not* setup by default. install the xf86setup package, then run
XF86Setup"
under branden's new X packages (experimental Xfree 4 ones), there's a
new tool "dexter", which does a good job of giving you a working X
setup with minimal interaction. XF86Setup is xfree's own config
tool. its really quite nice.
What if I don't have a network connection? Having the system update
itself over the net is great, but I wan't to be able to burn stuff to CD
at work and take it home to install.
I'm "blessed" with a 56k modem at home, so I can't really mirror the entire
x86 woody tree, so you may want to post these questions to the list, or read
the documentation for mirror and apt-cdrom.
if you can get to a zip drive (or similar (re)movable media - eg: a
laptop), have a look at apt-zip.
if you have a cd burner and unlimited bandwidth, just burn yourself a
copy of the slink cd's (3 of them), and you should be fine (until you
decide you miss the adrenaline rush from upgrading libc twice a week
and having everything crash/hang mysteriously)
basically, so long as you roughly duplicate the package tree on the
ftp site, and update the Packages.gz files (using dpkg-scanpackages)
before burning - apt will work with it, whether its ftp, http, cdrom
or just somewhere in your filesystem.
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Re: [SLUG] Down for the ...
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:15PM +1100, CaT wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:46:53PM +1100, Richard Blackburn wrote: Every now and then when I turn on the box, RH6.x does fsck and says something to the effect maximum count reached even though the shutdown was proper and there hadn't been any running problem. What is the 'count'? and do I need more of whatever is being counted? The count is how many times the disc has been mounted. If it's been mounted a certain number of times the system does an fsck just to be on the safe side. There is a way to turn it off but I, err.., can't remember it. I recall it being in the RH manual though so check the RH site out or I'm sure a friendly slugger will help. Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Debian newbie guide for existing linux users
quote who="Angus Lees" you could just install task-helix-gnome. hopefully that would end up pulling in all of X too. (I won't say anything about not relying on the Helix packages to be as absolutely top-notch as the mainline packages...) 8 uninformed comments about potato given that I haven't used it much at all really ;) 8 under branden's new X packages (experimental Xfree 4 ones), there's a new tool "dexter", which does a good job of giving you a working X setup with minimal interaction. XF86Setup is xfree's own config tool. its really quite nice. Alternatively, try Conectiva's xf86cfg. (How many permutations of X, Free, 86 and Config can we turn into a filename?) It's perky and graphical and swanky and broken most of the time but if there are pretty pictures that makes everything alright. *breath* 8 snip dpkg-scanpackages wisdom I shall store in the back of my mind 8 - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- She said she loved my mind, though by most accounts I had already lost it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Down for the ...
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:21:32PM +1100, Graeme Merrall wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:15PM +1100, CaT wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:46:53PM +1100, Richard Blackburn wrote: Every now and then when I turn on the box, RH6.x does fsck and says something to the effect maximum count reached even though the shutdown was proper and there hadn't been any running problem. What is the 'count'? and do I need more of whatever is being counted? The count is how many times the disc has been mounted. If it's been mounted a certain number of times the system does an fsck just to be on the safe side. There is a way to turn it off but I, err.., can't remember it. I recall it being in the RH manual though so check the RH site out or I'm sure a friendly slugger will help. man tune2fs :) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'We do more then just sing and dance. We've got a brain too.' -- The Backstreet Boys -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Down for the ...
Don't shutdown ... lol Regards Adrian - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Phone: +61 (0)4 0720 8910 Facsimile: +61 (0)4 0720 5410 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Blackburn Sent: Monday, 30 October 2000 19:47 To: Sydney Linux Users Group Subject: [SLUG] Down for the ... Every now and then when I turn on the box, RH6.x does fsck and says something to the effect maximum count reached even though the shutdown was proper and there hadn't been any running problem. What is the 'count'? and do I need more of whatever is being counted? Thanks Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Down for the ...
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:18:12PM +1100, Steve Kowalik wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:29:14PM +1100, CaT wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:21:32PM +1100, Graeme Merrall wrote: There is a way to turn it off but I, err.., can't remember it. I recall it being in the RH manual though so check the RH site out or I'm sure a friendly slugger will help. man tune2fs Or use "shutdown -fr now" -f: do a 'fast' reboot (skip fsck). Yeah but that's rather dangerous as it'll skip an fsck no matter what the status of the partitions no? -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'We do more then just sing and dance. We've got a brain too.' -- The Backstreet Boys -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS goes Open Source - sort of
Jim Hague wrote: Today's food for thought. You have obtained the entire source for, say, W2k and O2k. What do you do with it? Chesty wrote: Fix some bugs and send patch back to MS? maybe not :) I wrote: Actually, I'd prolly browse some of it when really really bored, looking for programming errors (and finding many) John Wiltshire wrote: My understanding of the hack was: They didn't get NT/9x/Office source. They got "new unreleased projects" (probably .NET stuff by the sound of it). True, but that wasn't the question that Jim posted. If they did get NT source, I really doubt they could find bugs by inspecting the code. Where do you start in 50 million lines of layered calls? Hell, people find bugs in Linux sources that have been there for ages and that source code is looked at all the time. And Chesty mentioned fixing bugs, sending patches. Hypothetically, of course. And in this hypothetical world where I have an Abundance Of Free Time, my head wouldn't explode trying to comprehend the 50 million lines of the combined W2K and O2K sources. And I'd fix the tab stops and the braces to my satisfaction, and scrutinise every line for bugs. ObLinux: Finally getting to write some code for a personal project (even though I don't have the aforementioned AOFT). I'm working on a daemon to drive an mp3stereo jukebox. The plan is for a stripped down system, running basically a kernel with reiserfs and this daemon, plugged into a large disk, cdrom, ethernet and an LCD display. Things that rock: CVS, GNU libreadline, manual sections 2 and 3. -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS goes Open Source - sort of
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Conrad Parker generated: ps. James, your Mail-Followup-To header is fubar I noticed that... it's happened since i upgraded mutt to 1.2 from 1.0 Anyone got any advice on which .muttrc line to add to get rid of this? (lousy new feature defaults breaking things) Meanwhile, just obey the reply-to field and reply to the list ;) -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Debian newbie guide for existing linux users
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Jeff Waugh generated: Alternatively, try Conectiva's xf86cfg. (How many permutations of X, Free, 86 and Config can we turn into a filename?) There's a command to do just that. # apt-get install an $ an xfree86config fixer cog fen exec grin off exec ring off exec frog fin fix fencer go fix force eng fix cern go fe fix cog fen re fix con erg fe fox cringe fe fox fence rig rex nice goff rex cog fin fe rex cog if fen rex con fig fe ox fencer fig ox cern fig fe ex forcing fe ex cringe off ex coffin erg ex confer fig ex coffer gin ex nicer goff ex corn fig fe ex cern fig of ex cern fog if ex cog fir fen ex cog if fern -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Allowing users to write to dos partition.
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Michael Lake generated: Why can't I get Linux to do what I want Monday morning? Mondayitis? If I "chown root:dosusers dos" or "chgrp dosusers dos" I get: chgrp: dos/: Operation not permitted DOS filesystems and ownerships are like oil and water. No, bad analogy, water and oil are both useful. Anyway, because you can't store ownerships in the filesystem, chown and friends die. 1. dosusers is a valid group as /etc/group has: "dosusers:x:502:root,mikel,lindax" 2. users could, if the permissions were correct, write to it as etc/fstab has: "/dev/hda1 /dos vfat user,rw 0 0" What you want here is a gid=502 or something, check the manpage to mount, look under the vfat/msdos fs options. This will mount the fs under that user, and everything under it will be owned by that user. This way the ownerships are done at the VFS for the whole fs, and not inside the fs as chown was trying to do. -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] And so it starts...
just thought you guys would apreciate this - Linux making inroads into an NT shop. hurrah! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/14317.html -Thom -- Thomas May Sys Admin, AMX Communications (T) +44 (0)20 7440 3955 (E) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) http://www.amxstudios.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X?
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Arunava Sen generated: So if you have either the "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" or the "Microsoft Intellimouse Web" and can confirm side-button finctionality it will be much appreciated. (the explorer is the fully expensive optical one) When I was setting mine up, all the docs said that XFree 4 supported the 6 and 7th buttons on the side of the IM Explorer. I only use XFree 3.3.6, so I've jsut got the scrolly wheel going. There are tons of docs telling you how to set up your applications for use with them, and I can find good uses for the side buttons in Q3 :) -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X?
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Terry Collins generated: P.S. Does anyone of know of any Linux mp3's I find my mp3s play well on most platforms, not just Linux ;) -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X?
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Arunava Sen generated: Do you mean that the side buttons are just useless clones of the left and right buttons? This is exactly what I was scared of. Thanks for responding to my post. Not afaik. It depends on your xserver. 3.3.6 only supports a maximum of 5 buttons, this is Left(1), Middle(2), Right(3), Scroll Up(4), Scroll Down(5). in XFree 4.0 you got your extra side buttons, 6 and 7 in the config. -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X - Update
Hello, As you could tell, I wanted the MS optical mouse just for its side buttons. And I wanted those just for quake3. From all the responses regarding this matter, the side-button functionality under X doesnt seem too promising. So I called up a (windows user) friend of mine who has one of these apparently, the side buttons dont work even in windows (except for a few MS apps like IE5)... windows quake3 wont detect button presses from the side buttons etc. Hence, X support for these side-buttons seem out of the question. So what so I do? Slashdot to the rescue! They have this cool article about the best damned aussie product I've ever seen... http://www.claw.com.au/ (and a LinuxWorld review - http://www.linuxworld.com.au/article.php3?aid=102tid=1) Because these babies are a purely hardware solution, I dont have to worry about Linux support perfect for my Linuxquaking needs :) I'll see if I can pick one of them up this Thursday. Sorry if this seems like an off-topic post but heaps of people responded with useful info and it seemed only fair to inform them of my final choice. Thanks Arun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X - Update
Arunava Sen wrote:
Hence, X support for these side-buttons seem out of the
question.
I thought all buttons after 3 were software dependant anyway, which is
what makes most of them pretty useless.
So what so I do? Slashdot to the rescue!
They have this cool article about the best damned aussie product I've ever
seen... http://www.claw.com.au/
Hey - something for the Lefties - Rock On! {:-)
I really loved the conditional lines about replacing your keyboard (for
3D games ) because it will be faster!!!. I suspect this might be on the
three main buttons, but definitely not on your pinkie or a thumb faced
with four positions.
If you really want to contribute something in development, look at
tablets. An overlay/app converts these into the biggest multibutton
mouse around and I believe they are pressure sensitive now (brush stroke
stuff becomes direction and acceleration). That to me seems far more
intuitive that an army of mice with individual button arrangements.
Just my 2c
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RE: [SLUG] MS goes Open Source - sort of
(Tempted not to forward to list as starting to get OT) without problems of copyright/patents (or for that matter, MS employees plenty of people from other companies like Dave Cutler rumour has it that there were indeed problems with DEC and ideas and even source code. Dave Cutler is an ex-VMS person, I believe. There's the rumour that alpha support in NT lasted as long as it did because of this. A couple of Compaq people at dinner after SLUG mentioned how at one stage they were co-operating with MS on the 64 bit port, until they got the impression that MS people wanted more and more generic information about handling 64 bit, rather than targetting the alpha. There have been several furious fights about technical and sales people. One aspect of source code is that the last 10% takes 90% of the time. Hence all the quirks, last minute fixes and horribleisms are a valuable commodity. It is interesting the public reaction to this leak. I sense a great indifference (i.e. in mainstream media response, e.g. SMH). I don't reckon this is due to sophisticated reasoning on the publics / journalists part, but the opposite. Most people have no sense of what source code and binary code means. ObLinux: Microsoft faces a challenge in dealing with Linux. The challenge is cultural. How do they respond to the process that is Free Software? I feel that ignoring, bypassing, won't work. Assimilation won't work on a process, without causing internal change (loss of control from the top). The immediate problems include: * technologically literate people are not regarding MS as having a leadership, or even (to some extent) relevant role. Perhaps C# and .NET are to some extent a response to this. * the base of applications and systems is very narrow. (Office desktop systems). Growth in these areas is hard, and could well contract, especially in dollar terms. * new areas of growth are hard to find without canabalising traditional profit areas, or without introducing seriously incompatabilities with older systems. The Xbox is one attempt, but there is no serious work on an ultra low cost PC (because licensing fees would be the first thing to look at). Jamie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] wireless boards
Sluggers, Have a project in mind that requires some wireless networking. Looking through the docs of the supported boards has brought me to this shortlist: Samsung SWL2000P Airnet/CISCO AIR-PCI340 Does anyone have experience / advice on using wireless boards and networking with linux - including recommendations for other boards based on experience with them (the CISCO one is quite expensive)? Does anyone have recommendations for suppliers? Thanks -- Andrew Dorrell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS goes Open Source - sort of
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 01:44:11AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote: ps. James, your Mail-Followup-To header is fubar I noticed that... it's happened since i upgraded mutt to 1.2 from 1.0 Anyone got any advice on which .muttrc line to add to get rid of this? (lousy new feature defaults breaking things) set followup_to=no Read the man page :-) Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Large IDE hard drives
I'm wanting to get a large IDE hard drive for an old Pentium 120 I have here, I'm wondering if there's a limit to the size I can use - I have a feeling the BIOS is limited to 8Gb or something in the older machines. The question is, am I able to fully use a large IDE drive in linux even though the BIOS doesn't support it? Josh. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] How I make X work in Debian (Was Debian newbie guide for existing linuxusers)
Jeff Waugh wrote: So lets assume for a moment I want to get X windows working, preferably with Helix Gnome. Where do I start? First off, run either: a) tasksel, and choose the "X Window System" task, or, b) apt-get install task-x-window-system Both of these commands insisted on installing the VGA16 server. When I aborted the X configuration it would complain it didn't work, and run the config again. Repeat untill I hit Ctrl-C. Eventually I figured out that 'apt-get install xserver-SVGA' would install teh SVGA server, complete with a little graphical configuration thingy. It had Diamond Viper 770 in the list of cards, and worked fine. I'll worry about getting the mouse wheel working later. Then, to install Helix Gnome, you need to add the Helix Gnome repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list file (you'll find the appropriate line on the Helix Code website) and then run: apt-get install task-helix-gnome I figured out that if I burn the Helix-gnome .debs to a CD I can use 'apt-cdrom add' to add the CD to the list of availabe packages, and then 'apt-get install task-helix-gnome' will prompt for teh CD. Or do I need to do more to the CD than just burn the .debs on? The actual debian CDs include a .disk folder, but that just seems to contain a file with the full name of teh CD in it. - Doug -- _ Network Operations Engineer - Big Pond Advance Satellite Ericsson Australia - Level 5, 184 The Broadway, Sydney 2000 Ph: +61-416-085-390 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Large IDE hard drives
I'm wanting to get a large IDE hard drive for an old Pentium 120 I have here, I'm wondering if there's a limit to the size I can use - I have a feeling the BIOS is limited to 8Gb or something in the older machines. The question is, am I able to fully use a large IDE drive in linux even though the BIOS doesn't support it? It doesn't matter to Linux after it's booted because it has its own drivers and doesn't use the BIOS. So go ahead. Just make sure the boot partition is under 1024 cylinders for the purpose of booting. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How I make X work in Debian (Was Debian newbie guide for existing linux users)
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 10:32:11AM +1100, Doug Stalker wrote: fine. I'll worry about getting the mouse wheel working later. it's only a couple of lines in the XF86Config, though AFAIK you need to write these in manually. See http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ Does anyone know of any distros whose X configuration utilities put these lines in to support the mouse wheel? Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS goes Open Source - sort of
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, John Clarke generated: set followup_to=no Read the man page :-) ouch :) bitten by my own advice :) anyway, hopefully fixed now cheers. -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Internet Banking With National
I just got the following from the Nation Australia Bank. I thought it may be of interest to other SLUG members. - Dear Mr Stalker, Thank you for your feedback. We are currently in the process of upgrading our Internet Banking system to be platform independant to the extent where Linux users should be able to use the facility. Unfortunately we do not have a fixed release date however it is expected to be sometime in the first quarter of 2001. [Rest of message removed] - Doug -- _ Network Operations Engineer - Big Pond Advance Satellite Ericsson Australia - Level 5, 184 The Broadway, Sydney 2000 Ph: +61-416-085-390 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Time keeps changing!
Help! The time on my Mandrake 6.1 box keeps changing back to June 1999! There is nothing in the message log, or any other log that I can find that indicates what is happening (part of the message log where the changeover took place is included below). When this happens I login as root, use rdate to reset the time off our ISP's Linux box. I then have to kill and restart crond. I have also noticed that when I login as me the prompt is: sbryan@gatekeeper sbryan but when I su to root it becomes cgi@gatekeeper sbryan I am sure the cgi bit used to say 'root'. Any clues appreciated as I have many of my maintenance tasks running off cron and they keep stopping! TIA -- Simon Bryan[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Internet Banking With National
How does this fit with the highest profits in the banking sector, massive closures of rural branches and imminent closures of urban branches, and new charges on Internet banking. Surely they are not beginning to feel pangs about actually providing a service. Cynically, -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Doug Stalker wrote: I just got the following from the Nation Australia Bank. I thought it may be of interest to other SLUG members. - Dear Mr Stalker, Thank you for your feedback. We are currently in the process of upgrading our Internet Banking system to be platform independant to the extent where Linux users should be able to use the facility. Unfortunately we do not have a fixed release date however it is expected to be sometime in the first quarter of 2001. [Rest of message removed] - Doug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Time keeps changing!
Have you been cracked? Have a look at /etc/passwd for extra accounts. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Simon Bryan wrote: Help! The time on my Mandrake 6.1 box keeps changing back to June 1999! There is nothing in the message log, or any other log that I can find that indicates what is happening (part of the message log where the changeover took place is included below). When this happens I login as root, use rdate to reset the time off our ISP's Linux box. I then have to kill and restart crond. I have also noticed that when I login as me the prompt is: sbryan@gatekeeper sbryan but when I su to root it becomes cgi@gatekeeper sbryan I am sure the cgi bit used to say 'root'. Any clues appreciated as I have many of my maintenance tasks running off cron and they keep stopping! TIA -- Simon Bryan[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multiple POP-3 servers on one machine
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Conrad Parker wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:56:30AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: A question from someone not on the list: Is it possible to run two (or more) 'virtual' POP-3 servers on the one Linux box, each listening on its own IP, on the standaard POP-3 port. TCP services listen to a TCP port; there is only one "instance" of TCP on a system, so you can't have two daemons each listening on "its own IP" but on the same port. There is only one port 110 on the system as far as TCP is concerned (and similarly, there is a port 110 for UDP). A really good tutorial on this is RFC 1180 (eg. http://RF.Cx/rfc1180.html). Then what does apache virtual hosting do? Mikal -- Michael Still ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Panda PDF Generation Library (http://www.stillhq.com/panda/) - GPG Public Key at http://www.stillhq.com/mikal.asc -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multiple POP-3 servers on one machine
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Michael Still generated: Then what does apache virtual hosting do? AFAIK, the request to the webserver contains the fqdn of the host that the client thinks it is accessing, so the webserver knows which set of pages to feed. -- Sure, I subscribe to USENET, but I only get it for the articles. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multiple POP-3 servers on one machine
Then what does apache virtual hosting do? It looks at the HTTP "Host:" header in the request. //umar. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multiple POP-3 servers on one machine
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Umar Goldeli wrote: Then what does apache virtual hosting do? It looks at the HTTP "Host:" header in the request. Unless you are doing IP address based virtual hosting, which is what I am using. Mikal -- Michael Still ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Panda PDF Generation Library (http://www.stillhq.com/panda/) - GPG Public Key at http://www.stillhq.com/mikal.asc -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Experiences with Tripwire?
Morning all, So, Tripwire has been released under the GPL... http://www.tripwire.org/ I haven't had the opportunity to play with it so far - would anyone like to give a quick review (based on previous versions, whatever)? Especially with regards to how GPLing it will enhance it... - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- - What inspired you to become a bus driver? - Linus Torvalds. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multiple POP-3 servers on one machine
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Umar Goldeli wrote: Unless you are doing IP address based virtual hosting, which is what I am using. In which case I can't tell you *exactly* what apache does - but I can give you a feasible method.. :) Basically in terms of a threaded application, you can always get one process to bind to port 80 and listen. Everytime a request comes in to that particular port (since there is only one port, regardless of the IP it will go to that port anyhow) the process can look at the connection struct which will include (amongst other things) source port, dest port, source ip, dest ip for that that particular stream.. it would then be a trivial task for the process to serve the appropriate site based on the dst ip. Nah. For each Listen ip:port as configured in httpd.conf, the parent Apache process bind()s a socket to that ip and port and hangs a listen() on it. As many as you have specified. Whenever a request comes in on a ip,port it is farmed off to a child task to process, and another bind()/listen() is done to listen for the next incoming request on THAT IP AND PORT. If you've done any pre-forking/multi-ip-port server code, the above methodology will be familiar. For those who want to learn more, there are some excellenet chapters on this very topic in "The Perl Cookbook", towards the end of the book. So all I really want is a preforking multi-IP highly configurable POP-3 server that functions basically the same way that Apache does. -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multiple POP-3 servers on one machine
Certainly sounds better than my theory, that's for sure. :) Nah. For each Listen ip:port as configured in httpd.conf, the parent Apache process bind()s a socket to that ip and port and hangs a listen() on it. As many as you have specified. Whenever a request comes in on a ip,port it is farmed off to a child task to process, and another bind()/listen() is done to listen for the next incoming request on THAT IP AND PORT. If you've done any pre-forking/multi-ip-port server code, the above methodology will be familiar. For those who want to learn more, there are some excellenet chapters on this very topic in "The Perl Cookbook", towards the end of the book. So all I really want is a preforking multi-IP highly configurable POP-3 server that functions basically the same way that Apache does. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] GCC
I seem to recall some announcement on here recently about a version of gcc that would fail when compiling a kernel. I think it may have had to do with RH 7. Can anyone point me to any details on that ...ie if its only Use kgcc in RH7 for compiling the kernel. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] DeCSS decoy
http://www.linuxnews.com/stories.php?story=576 The DeCSS decoy has been around for a while, but here's an interview with the guy who created it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] black folder left after slug meeting
I picked up a soft black folder after last Friday's SLUG meeting. It was left near the front of the room after everyone had cleared out, and no-one claimed it at dinner. It contains cards for Russell Neal, so I assume it is his; however the contact details on those cards are out of date. If you are Russell, or you know Russell, or you are not Russell but the folder is yours, or even if you are not Russell and the folder is not yours but you know the owner, then please contact me. Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] GCC
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 09:21:00AM +0800, Dion Curchin wrote: I seem to recall some announcement on here recently about a version of gcc that would fail when compiling a kernel. I think it may have had to This is a common question on the gcc mailing list, and indeed it's in the gcc FAQ, although I believe that the FAQ answer is incomplete. The short answer is: 2.0 kernels should only be compiled with gcc-2.7.2.x 2.2 kernels should compile with most releases of egcs. 2.2 kernels should also compile with gcc-2.95.2, as long as the `-fno-strict-aliasing' flags is used. RH7 includes a development snapshot of gcc, rather than a released version. It is *not* gcc-2.95.2. It should, however, be capable of compiling the kernel. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Large IDE hard drives
On Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:47 AM, Ken Yap [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I'm wanting to get a large IDE hard drive for an old Pentium 120 I have here, I'm wondering if there's a limit to the size I can use - I have a feeling the BIOS is limited to 8Gb or something in the older machines. The question is, am I able to fully use a large IDE drive in linux even though the BIOS doesn't support it? It doesn't matter to Linux after it's booted because it has its own drivers and doesn't use the BIOS. So go ahead. Just make sure the boot partition is under 1024 cylinders for the purpose of booting. And under 65535 cylinders if you want to use it all... or has someone found a neat way around this? Cheers, Marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Returned mail: Too many hops 26 (25 max)
From the two messages I've posted to SLUG today I've received error messages from imr1.bain.com.au complaining of too many hops. A look at the headers shows that the messege is going to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it is then converted to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and that it then starts running in a circle around the following 4 systems; mailhost.aus.deuba.com bmr1-e1.bain.com.au imr1.bain.com.au kipling.bain.com.au and then kipling forwards it to mailhost.aus.deuba.com, and the cycle repeats. Eventually onteh 26th jump it decides it's gone on for too long and sends an error back to the sender (which is shown as [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Is anyone else getting this on their posts to SLUG? Hopefully one of the postmaster address I've CC'd this to will do something to stop this. - Doug -- _ Network Operations Engineer - Big Pond Advance Satellite Ericsson Australia - Level 5, 184 The Broadway, Sydney 2000 Ph: +61-416-085-390 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X - Update
As you could tell, I wanted the MS optical mouse just for its side buttons. And I wanted those just for quake3. From all the responses regarding this matter, the side-button functionality under X doesnt seem too promising. So I called up a (windows user) friend of mine who has one of these apparently, the side buttons dont work even in windows (except for a few MS apps like IE5)... windows quake3 wont detect button presses from the side buttons etc. Hence, X support for these side-buttons seem out of the question. The buttons work in x4, and if you want it for q3 then x4 is the way to go anyway. In windows you bind the buttons to events, so all apps can use them, in a very similar way to X. Also if the game just gets events from the underlying API, then it should support anything the API does (quake 1 and 2's reliance on svgalib is an example). THe extra buttons dont do anyhing in windows without the imouse drivers which makes sense soory for the OT Dean -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Allowing users to write to dos partition.
This way the ownerships are done at the VFS for the whole fs, and not inside the fs as chown was trying to do. Thanks greatly for this. Although the gid=502 solved the problem I still had no idea why just changing the permissions didn't work lie it does on a normal ext2 partition. Now I understand WHY. The short and long of it is that FAT FS don't have per file ownerships. The ownerships are "inherited" from the mount options. If you want more than one user to be able to write to the file, then use Unix groups. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] SOS
Hi !
I am trying to make an automated telnet script. The expect command is there
running on my machine, but still I am not able to run it properly. I have tried
two codes
LoginName is : linus
Password : ChangeMe
Hostname : aald02
Code is as follows -
{
expect "login:"
send "linus" # this says the "send" command not foundI
don't know why ? TCL is installed on my comp.
expect "Password:"
send "ChangeMe"
sleep 200
ls
} | telnet aald02
and this code too
{
expect "login:"
echo "linus"
expect "Password:" # This code gives the information on the term, as shown
below with "="
echo "ChangeMe" # into the machine but comes out with the following
code = Trying Ip Address...
ls # = Connected to
the IP address
# = Escape
character is ^]
# = Conncection
closed by the foregin host
} | telnet aald02 #
I would be grateful, if someone suggests an alternative.
Thanks in advance,
Rajat
Alcatel Australia,
Engineer,Dept# 48
Mandible St.
Ph. +61.2.96990044 Extn. 3058
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:57:36PM +1100, Daron Barndon wrote: Does anyone remember a thread some time ago about a internet capable video camera (web cam) that ran linux? A dedicated PC in a camera box but really small. I'm after something along those lines for a security application. I've searched through the archives but was unable to find it... :-( I'm not sure if they've been discussed here or not, but Axis produce net cameras (http://www.axis.com/products/camera_servers/). They're powered by Linux, and you can either upload the images somewhere else, or serve pages from the camera itself. The Harris Technology web-site uses Axis cameras as web-cams at two of their retail locations, and sell them as well, IIRC. Cheers, Peter PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams
Daron Barndon wrote: Does anyone remember a thread some time ago about a internet capable video camera (web cam) that ran linux? A dedicated PC in a camera box but really small. I'm after something along those lines for a security application. I've searched through the archives but was unable to find it... :-( http://www.axis.com/ We have one here. It's very cute. Unfortunately we can't work out how to get a shell on it. It's only listening on 21 80. I can ftp into it and look at files: pwold011:/home/morton ftp wolcam-1 Connected to wolcam-1.asiapac.nortel.com. 220 Axis 2100 Network Camera 2.02 Mar 20 2000 ready. Name (wolcam-1:morton): root 331 User name okay, need password. Password: 230 User logged in, proceed. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp cd /proc/ 250 Command successful. ftp get cpuinfo /dev/tty local: /dev/tty remote: cpuinfo 200 Command okay. 150 Opening data connection. cpu : Etrax cpu revision: 9 cpu model : Etrax 100 cache size : 8 kB fpu : no mmu : no ethernet: 10/100 Mbps token ring : no scsi: yes ata : yes usb : no irq bug : no bogomips: 99.58 226 Transfer complete. 193 bytes received in 0.00363 secs (52 Kbytes/sec) ftp get version /dev/tty local: /dev/tty remote: version 200 Command okay. 150 Opening data connection. Linux version 2.0.33 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2) #98 Mon Mar 20 14:43:22 CET 2000 226 Transfer complete. 96 bytes received in 0.00596 secs (16 Kbytes/sec) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams
Beauty - thanks to everyone for this. This is definitly the one I was looking for!!! Daron -Original Message- From: Andrew Morton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2000 4:35 PM To: Daron Barndon Cc: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams Daron Barndon wrote: Does anyone remember a thread some time ago about a internet capable video camera (web cam) that ran linux? A dedicated PC in a camera box but really small. I'm after something along those lines for a security application. I've searched through the archives but was unable to find it... :-( http://www.axis.com/ We have one here. It's very cute. Unfortunately we can't work out how to get a shell on it. It's only listening on 21 80. I can ftp into it and look at files: pwold011:/home/morton ftp wolcam-1 Connected to wolcam-1.asiapac.nortel.com. 220 Axis 2100 Network Camera 2.02 Mar 20 2000 ready. Name (wolcam-1:morton): root 331 User name okay, need password. Password: 230 User logged in, proceed. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp cd /proc/ 250 Command successful. ftp get cpuinfo /dev/tty local: /dev/tty remote: cpuinfo 200 Command okay. 150 Opening data connection. cpu : Etrax cpu revision: 9 cpu model : Etrax 100 cache size : 8 kB fpu : no mmu : no ethernet: 10/100 Mbps token ring : no scsi: yes ata : yes usb : no irq bug : no bogomips: 99.58 226 Transfer complete. 193 bytes received in 0.00363 secs (52 Kbytes/sec) ftp get version /dev/tty local: /dev/tty remote: version 200 Command okay. 150 Opening data connection. Linux version 2.0.33 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2) #98 Mon Mar 20 14:43:22 CET 2000 226 Transfer complete. 96 bytes received in 0.00596 secs (16 Kbytes/sec) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams
Daron Barndon wrote:
Does anyone remember a thread some time ago about a internet capable
video camera (web cam) that ran linux? A dedicated PC in a camera box
but really small. I'm after something along those lines for a security
application. I've searched through the archives but was unable to find
it... :-(
Nope. There are boxes like the Axis box that is basically a cam that
sits on your network (it doesn't run linux). Otherwise any 486 with PCI
slots (for the capture cards) will suffice.
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RE: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams
I like those units, but they are not cheap :( I think when I looked into one, it was about 1200 dollars, although a supplier is at parramatta, so I guess that was partial good luck. On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Daron Barndon wrote: Beauty - thanks to everyone for this. This is definitly the one I was looking for!!! Daron -Original Message- From: Andrew Morton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2000 4:35 PM To: Daron Barndon Cc: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams Daron Barndon wrote: Does anyone remember a thread some time ago about a internet capable video camera (web cam) that ran linux? A dedicated PC in a camera box but really small. I'm after something along those lines for a security application. I've searched through the archives but was unable to find it... :-( http://www.axis.com/ We have one here. It's very cute. Unfortunately we can't work out how to get a shell on it. It's only listening on 21 80. I can ftp into it and look at files: pwold011:/home/morton ftp wolcam-1 Connected to wolcam-1.asiapac.nortel.com. 220 Axis 2100 Network Camera 2.02 Mar 20 2000 ready. Name (wolcam-1:morton): root 331 User name okay, need password. Password: 230 User logged in, proceed. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp cd /proc/ 250 Command successful. ftp get cpuinfo /dev/tty local: /dev/tty remote: cpuinfo 200 Command okay. 150 Opening data connection. cpu : Etrax cpu revision: 9 cpu model : Etrax 100 cache size : 8 kB fpu : no mmu : no ethernet: 10/100 Mbps token ring : no scsi: yes ata : yes usb : no irq bug : no bogomips: 99.58 226 Transfer complete. 193 bytes received in 0.00363 secs (52 Kbytes/sec) ftp get version /dev/tty local: /dev/tty remote: version 200 Command okay. 150 Opening data connection. Linux version 2.0.33 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2) #98 Mon Mar 20 14:43:22 CET 2000 226 Transfer complete. 96 bytes received in 0.00596 secs (16 Kbytes/sec) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams
From: Andrew Morton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Daron Barndon wrote: Does anyone remember a thread some time ago about a internet capable video camera (web cam) that ran linux? A dedicated PC in a camera box but really small. I'm after something along those lines for a security application. I've searched through the archives but was unable to find it... :-( http://www.axis.com/ We have one here. It's very cute. Unfortunately we can't work out how to get a shell on it. It's only listening on 21 80. I can ftp into it and look at files: Use the serial cable. Gives you a shell by default or a ppp connection if you login and go 'ppp'. We use them here for traffic monitoring - go just great except we found they have a nasty tendancy to lock up every so often if you run them flat out a lot. Nothing that cycling the power every hour doesn't fix. John Wiltshire -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SOS
use ssh with rsa key auth.
You can do no password logins as well as running arbitary commands on
the remote machine
-Colin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi !
I am trying to make an automated telnet script. The expect command is there
running on my machine, but still I am not able to run it properly. I have tried
two codes
LoginName is : linus
Password : ChangeMe
Hostname : aald02
Code is as follows -
{
expect "login:"
send "linus" # this says the "send" command not foundI
don't know why ? TCL is installed on my comp.
expect "Password:"
send "ChangeMe"
sleep 200
ls
} | telnet aald02
and this code too
{
expect "login:"
echo "linus"
expect "Password:" # This code gives the information on the term, as shown
below with "="
echo "ChangeMe" # into the machine but comes out with the following
code = Trying Ip Address...
ls # = Connected to
the IP address
# = Escape
character is ^]
# = Conncection
closed by the foregin host
} | telnet aald02 #
I would be grateful, if someone suggests an alternative.
Thanks in advance,
Rajat
Alcatel Australia,
Engineer,Dept# 48
Mandible St.
Ph. +61.2.96990044 Extn. 3058
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Web Cams
quote who="Michael" I like those units, but they are not cheap :( I think when I looked into one, it was about 1200 dollars, although a supplier is at parramatta, so I guess that was partial good luck. Bah - all this fancy-schmancy hardware, and what's the important bit? Linux! Oh, and a camera! Network Security Camera Recipe 1 x 486 with PCI motherboard 1 x 8Mb RAM module to fit 1 x 200Mb Hard drive 1 x BT848 video capture card 1 x Very small camera 1 x Roll of gaffer tape 1 x Cheep'n'Dirty network card (8139's are always good for this) 1 x Linux distribution of your choice 1 x Ugly beige box to put it all in Plug it all in and hang it off the ceiling. Connect to network as appropriate. Copyright (C) Geeks-Without-Care-For-Aesthetics, 2000 - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- I must be getting old... Buying toothpaste with gel in it is no longer an Absolute Necessity. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Ajuba sold to InterWoven
Ajuba, the company where several Tcl/Tk developers work has been sold to InterWoven. InterWoven has no interest in Tcl, it is mostly interested in the XML expertise of Ajuba. http://lwn.net/ http://deja.com/=dnc/viewthread.xp?AN=684808290 http://deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=685517334 Jamie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Another literature question
Stuart Cooper wrote: If you see a book that mentions accomplishing the learning of C or any other technology in a particular timeframe (24 hours, a weekend, 12 easy lessons) it is safe to ignore that book. Enjoy, Stuart. Hate to disagree with an expert, but speaking as someone who has had to start from scratch, I found books such as "Teach yourself C in 24 hours" an easy starting point. If you don't have either a general understanding of programming or a tutor/mentor handy then I think "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment" is a bit heavy going for a first book on C. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] mx-relay.bigpond.net.au unreachable
Is it just me and the way I'm doing things or is anyone else having trouble sending from within bigpond cable to another address within bigpond of the form user@bigpond.net.au If anyone wants to test it just pop me a small message to the gparnell address below. I'm not using their "mail-hub" server (in my case mail-hub.nsw.bigpond.net.au) as a smart host and it works just fine from outside bigpond. Oh, and you can't ping/traceroute to their servers either. Of course this may just be their way of forcing us to get a telstra.com account. -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ph: 02-9715-6171 Mob: 0408-686-201 Web: http://linuxfreak.com/~gripz Wk: 02-9712-1799 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://everythinglinux.com.au No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] LPD problems. Connection refused
If you are using the old BSD code, forget it, I have tried and tried to get it working, to no avail. I know that my config was ok, because I installed lprng, and the whole installation worked without mods to the printcap file. Erich Schulz PO Box 6028, Lake Munmorah, NSW 2259 Ph: (+61)0500 551 228 , Fax: (+612) 43583113 Mob: 0408 201 228 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mad Mouse under Kde on Suse 6.4
Hello Folks
Have a curious, intermittent problem. About once/twice a day, it seems
like the left mouse button is going crazy and selecting everything the
cursor moves over. I can suddenly have thirty and growing fast new
messages, copies of Yast, a particulary window opening and closing
repeatedly, etc, etc.
The only way to recover is cntrl+alt+blackslash to reboot X.
Initially I thought it might be related to the bttv modules (videodev
i2c-?, tuner and bttv), but lsmod shows they are not loaded, which I've
recently started using.
I can not find anything in the system logs.
The mouse is an MS 2 button emulating three on a serial port (swapping
this is an option)
Has anyone come across this problem before?
Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: [SLUG] apt/dpkg database error
I'm not game to try this, as the file seems pretty cryptic to me. I have tried this: incursion:/home/rob# dpkg -r --force-confold mysql-server dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server This is starting to get desparate. I cannot update any of my software, because apt doesn't get past mysql. Help! Robert On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:57:43PM +1100, John Ferlito wrote: ok basically when you remove any debian package theres a script called prerm that gets run. In this case it's probably trying to shutdown the database or something. But for some reason it's seg faulting which is not a good sign ( Is this the bit where I get to bag out mysql and carry on about postgres :). Anyway my probably evil solution to this problem is the following. cd into /var/lib/dpkg/info ls mysql-server* there should be a file called mysql-server.prerm this is the script that's being run. OK here's the evil bit edit the script and comment out whichever line you think is causing the sef fault and try to apt-get remove again. /mw wondering if Anad or Gus are going to shoot me down in flames for this method :) On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:09:11AM -0800, Robert Martinovic wrote: Hello all, I have tried to remove mysql-server, but dpkg said that there was an error, and i should reinstall it, then try again to remove it. When I do, i get: (Reading database ... 44897 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace mysql-server 3.23.25-4 (using .../mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb) ... dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 /usr/bin/mysql_install_db: line 369: 1351 Segmentation fault (core dumped) $execdir/mysql $defaults --bootstrap --skip-grant-tables --basedir=/usr --datadir=$ldata "$@" END_OF_DATA use mysql; $c_d $i_d $c_h $i_h $c_u $i_u $c_f $i_f $c_t $c_c END_OF_DATA dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (!) If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it Robert __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- John The difference between a good man and a bad one is the choice of cause - William James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Big Memory Leak
I tried to run ImageMagick (via the convert command), to reduce the resolution of some gifs, BUT, after the first large file, there was so little memory availble that I had to reboot the machine. I thought the kernel made sure that resources were pooled when a process was finished ? How can I get my ram back without rebooting ? Erich Schulz PO Box 6028, Lake Munmorah, NSW 2259 Ph: (+61)0500 551 228 , Fax: (+612) 43583113 Mob: 0408 201 228 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] apt/dpkg database error
Hello all, I have tried to remove mysql-server, but dpkg said that there was an error, and i should reinstall it, then try again to remove it. When I do, i get: (Reading database ... 44897 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace mysql-server 3.23.25-4 (using .../mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb) ... dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 /usr/bin/mysql_install_db: line 369: 1351 Segmentation fault (core dumped) $execdir/mysql $defaults --bootstrap --skip-grant-tables --basedir=/usr --datadir=$ldata "$@" END_OF_DATA use mysql; $c_d $i_d $c_h $i_h $c_u $i_u $c_f $i_f $c_t $c_c END_OF_DATA dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (!) If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it Robert __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] apt/dpkg database error
ok basically when you remove any debian package theres a script called prerm that gets run. In this case it's probably trying to shutdown the database or something. But for some reason it's seg faulting which is not a good sign ( Is this the bit where I get to bag out mysql and carry on about postgres :). Anyway my probably evil solution to this problem is the following. cd into /var/lib/dpkg/info ls mysql-server* there should be a file called mysql-server.prerm this is the script that's being run. OK here's the evil bit edit the script and comment out whichever line you think is causing the sef fault and try to apt-get remove again. /mw wondering if Anad or Gus are going to shoot me down in flames for this method :) On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:09:11AM -0800, Robert Martinovic wrote: Hello all, I have tried to remove mysql-server, but dpkg said that there was an error, and i should reinstall it, then try again to remove it. When I do, i get: (Reading database ... 44897 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace mysql-server 3.23.25-4 (using .../mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb) ... dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 /usr/bin/mysql_install_db: line 369: 1351 Segmentation fault (core dumped) $execdir/mysql $defaults --bootstrap --skip-grant-tables --basedir=/usr --datadir=$ldata "$@" END_OF_DATA use mysql; $c_d $i_d $c_h $i_h $c_u $i_u $c_f $i_f $c_t $c_c END_OF_DATA dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server_3.23.25-4_alpha.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (!) If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it Robert __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- John The difference between a good man and a bad one is the choice of cause - William James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Extra buttons on the MS mice supported in X?
quote who="Arunava Sen" Thanks for all the info. Clears up all my questions. I think i'll take a risk and see if the side buttons work independently for me in XF4.0.1. They seem to be clones for me too, in XFree86 4.0.1, but that's probably more to do with my lack of familiarity with all the new X stuff (and lack of time and sufficient interest to fix it). If you succeed, please post to the list. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- She said she loved my mind, though by most accounts I had already lost it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] multiple POP-3 servers on one machine
Unless you are doing IP address based virtual hosting, which is what I am using. In which case I can't tell you *exactly* what apache does - but I can give you a feasible method.. :) Basically in terms of a threaded application, you can always get one process to bind to port 80 and listen. Everytime a request comes in to that particular port (since there is only one port, regardless of the IP it will go to that port anyhow) the process can look at the connection struct which will include (amongst other things) source port, dest port, source ip, dest ip for that that particular stream.. it would then be a trivial task for the process to serve the appropriate site based on the dst ip. //umar. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] GCC
Hi there, I seem to recall some announcement on here recently about a version of gcc that would fail when compiling a kernel. I think it may have had to do with RH 7. Can anyone point me to any details on that ...ie if its only a particular kernel gcc versions that conflict or whatever. I am getting errors compiling either kernels 2.2.17 or 2.4.0-0.14 and the errors come back as a compiler problem with my version of gcc 2.95?? I think. Thanks in advance. Dion. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Losing emails
Can anyone explain why my mail log shows an email as being delivered to my /var/spool/mail/$USER file by sendmail, but it fails to appear in said file. I can trace the thing from start to finish, except it isn't in the spool file. It's got me beat. Maillog entries are: Oct 31 12:00:40 keep sendmail[31310]: e9V10e331310: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=350, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=janus.lannet.com.au [203.41.237.65] Oct 31 12:00:42 keep sendmail[31311]: e9V10e331310: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=local, pri=30009, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Procmail log entry is: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 31 12:00:41 2000 Subject: ** LINK DOWN ALARM cwwg.caterworld.com.au Folder: /var/spool/mail/lannet 658 -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
