Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-08 Thread Andrew Reilly

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 01:37:01PM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote:
 Andrew Reilly wrote:
 
  (Hell, strings|par|less usually does a fine job!)  
 
 'par' not found.

Quoting the doco:

Par is similar but superiour to the fmt(1) command included in the
base system.

Par is a filter that copies its input to its output, changing all
white characters (except newlines) to spaces, and reformatting
each paragraph.  Paragraphs are separated by protected, blank, and
bodiless lines (see the Terminology section for definitions), and
optionally delimited by indentation (see the d option in the Options
section).

Each output paragraph is generated from the corresponding input
paragraph as follows:

 1) An optional prefix and/or suffix is removed from each input line.
 2) The remainder is divided into words (separated by spaces).
 3) The words are joined into lines to make an eye-pleasing paragraph.
 4) The prefixes and suffixes are reattached.

 If there are suffixes, spaces are inserted before them so that they
 all end in the same column.

WWW: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/


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[SLUG] Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Jon Biddell

Has anyone else bought the Potato CDs from Anthony at the show ?

I thought I'd see what all this "apt-get" stuff was about, but I get errors 
as soon as I start trying to install on a virgin h/d 
(/lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.dep cannot be found.)

apparently this is the UNSTABLE release ?  I would have thought that a 
warning of such on the CDs would be appropriate, as I assumed I was buying 
the STABLE version.

Anyone offer any suggestions re: installing this, or have I just bougt a set 
of coasters ??

Jon

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Re: [SLUG] Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Dave Fitch

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:57:33PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
 apparently this is the UNSTABLE release ?  I would have thought that a 

can't help with the errors sorry, but potato (2.2 I saw at the
show) is the last stable release.  I'm running it here (2.2r2).

Dave.

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[SLUG] Setting up PPPd for dial in.

2001-03-08 Thread Richard Pang

Hi all,

I'm trying to create a dial in account to my RH6.0 box for a win98 laptop.

I'd like the computer to appear as a 205.199.2.14 on an existing local
subnet
205.199.2.0/24 run by eth0. So far I have mgetty and pppd running, the win98
laptop uses ppp to determine the ip and mask, but doesn't get a gateway.

Do I need a ifcfg-ppp0? If so how? Do I need to set routing? Please help, my
brain hurts...

regards
Rich





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[SLUG] dhcpcd dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.

2001-03-08 Thread Jim Crawley

Hey guys  gals.

I've searched through the list archive like a good little munchkin, but
unfortunately haven't had much luck.  As in the topic, I'm having problems
with both of the above.

The simpler one is probably to do with dhcpd.  It's not loading on startup.
I have no idea where to tell it to do so.

Secondly, I'm on BPA.  When my linux box boots, it claims it brings up
eth0, eth1 then bpalogin without a problem, but I cannot access the
internet.  What I have to do is "ifdown eth0", "ifup eth0", then stop and
restart bpalogin.  I've mentioned this on the bigpond linux newsgroups but
haven't had much luck from them getting help either.

RedHat installed pump by default, I then uninstalled this, installed dhcpcd
and modified the ifdown and ifup scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ to use dhcpcd
only.  If you want me to post the parts of those scripts I modified, just
let me know.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: [SLUG] Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Rev Simon Rumble

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:57:33PM +1100, Jon Biddell uttered:

 Has anyone else bought the Potato CDs from Anthony at the show ?

Anthony: are these the "Offical" CDs burnt from the official ISO
images?

 I thought I'd see what all this "apt-get" stuff was about, but I get errors 
 as soon as I start trying to install on a virgin h/d 
 (/lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.dep cannot be found.)

This should not happen and doesn't from my Potato CDs.  I did a fresh
install (admittedly under VMWare) from them a couple of weeks ago and
it worked flawlessly.  At what stage do you get this error?  What boot
process are you using?  (ie, are you booting from CD and just pressing
[enter]?)

 apparently this is the UNSTABLE release ?  I would have thought that a 
 warning of such on the CDs would be appropriate, as I assumed I was buying 
 the STABLE version.

Potato is the latest stable release.

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Re: [SLUG] Setting up PPPd for dial in.

2001-03-08 Thread marty

 I'd like the computer to appear as a 205.199.2.14 on an existing local
 subnet
 205.199.2.0/24 run by eth0. So far I have mgetty and pppd running, the win98
 laptop uses ppp to determine the ip and mask, but doesn't get a gateway.
 
 Do I need a ifcfg-ppp0? If so how? Do I need to set routing? Please help, my
 brain hurts...

a couple of things, but it would be helpful to know more about the
symptoms: can you see the linux box? can you see any of the rest of the
subnet?

you set the IP, mask etc.etc. in /etc/ppp/options.ttyS?

make sure you specify "proxyarp" in /etc/ppp/options

make sure "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" returns 1

later
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Re: [SLUG] Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Jon Biddell

On Thursday 08 March 2001 22:34, Dave Fitch wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:57:33PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
  apparently this is the UNSTABLE release ?  I would have thought that a

 can't help with the errors sorry, but potato (2.2 I saw at the
 show) is the last stable release.  I'm running it here (2.2r2).

The 3 cds ?  When I boot them I get a "Debian Floppy Emergency Disk" or some 
such screen.

I followed all the right menu choices, but that error started almost as soon 
as the install did.

Jon

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Re: [SLUG] dhcpcd dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.

2001-03-08 Thread Ken Yap

What do you want dhcpd (not dhcpcd) for? Do you have other boxes
(Windoze) you need to assign addresses to?

   Secondly, I'm on BPA.  When my linux box boots, it claims it brings up
eth0, eth1 then bpalogin without a problem, but I cannot access the
internet.  What I have to do is "ifdown eth0", "ifup eth0", then stop and
restart bpalogin.  I've mentioned this on the bigpond linux newsgroups but
haven't had much luck from them getting help either.

bpalogin writes via syslog into /var/log/messages so have a look there
to see what it didn't like the first time.

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Re: [SLUG] Old LIbraries

2001-03-08 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:29:31AM +1100, Dean Hamstead uttered:
 I dont suppose anyone has a nice quick way of
 detecting and removing old library versions?

If you are a Certified Debian Weenie[tm] like myself, you can use 'deborphan' to 
detect and remove libraries that are no longer used.
If you don't use Debian, then foo.

 some fancy regex's or something?
 

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Re: [SLUG] Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Dave Fitch

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:52:53PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
 On Thursday 08 March 2001 22:34, Dave Fitch wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:57:33PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
   apparently this is the UNSTABLE release ?  I would have thought that a
 
  can't help with the errors sorry, but potato (2.2 I saw at the
  show) is the last stable release.  I'm running it here (2.2r2).
 
 The 3 cds ?  When I boot them I get a "Debian Floppy Emergency Disk" or some 
 such screen.

I downloaded the iso straight after 2.2r2 came out (Dec 2000),
it's just 1 cd.  If it's called "pototo" or the kernel is
2.2.18 (mine's 2.2.18pre21) or earlier it's stable not unstable.

It starts with a rescue type option or an install option as
I recall.  I didn't get any module type errors.

Dave.

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Re: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems

2001-03-08 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:59:08PM +1100, Michael Covi uttered:
 Define a sudo for startx ?

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ummm, no.

Look for your Xwrapper.config:

steven@broken:~$ cat /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
allowed_users=console
nice_value=-10

You may have something else in there such as 'allowed_users=root' or something.
 On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Scott Ragen wrote:
 
  Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:42:04 +1100
  From: Scott Ragen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems
  
  I try to login as a normal user into xfree, by typing either startx or X and
  I get an error message of: Authentication failed - cannot start X server.
  Perhaps you do not have console ownership?
  
  Only root can start XFree.
  How do I assign Console Ownership/permissions to other users?
  Oh I run Red hat 7.0 with XFree86 version 4.0.1a
  
  Regards,
  
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Re: [SLUG] Demand Dialing

2001-03-08 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:11:41PM +1100, Michael Sztachanski uttered:
 Guys,
 
 how do get ppp to "Dail ON DEMAND"?

Read 'man pppd' for the 'demand' and 'persist' options

 i.e when someone activates their browser.

Or does a DNS lookup, or a multiple of other things, it's very messy.

 cheers
 
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Re: [SLUG] Setting up PPPd for dial in.

2001-03-08 Thread Richard Pang

 a couple of things, but it would be helpful to know more about the
 symptoms: can you see the linux box? can you see any of the rest of the
 subnet?

Laptop connects establishes, but can't see anything. I've tried pinging
205.199.2.* ad infinitum.
the only one that works is 205.199.2.14, but that's the local machine.

 you set the IP, mask etc.etc. in /etc/ppp/options.ttyS?
options.ttyS1 has the following
205.199.2.14:205.199.2.14
netmask 255.255.255.0

 make sure you specify "proxyarp" in /etc/ppp/options
yep

 make sure "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" returns 1
yep


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Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-08 Thread Geoffrey Robertson

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:36:08AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote:
 |/fl# echo foo | sed 's/$/^M/'
 | sed: garbled command s/$/
 |/fl# 
 
 I think the ash you have does a bad job of parsing, not quoting things
 inside 's. You could try something like
 
   echo foo | sed 's/$/|/' | tr '|' '\015'
 
 assuming | doesn't appear in the text. Or maybe some control character
 that doesn't confuse ash. Works for me with ^A.


alas, no tr on tomsrtbt...deeply depressing

there is however, mawk which claims to be 100% 1988 awk complient.

As yet I am awk illiterate, but I've got the book open  and I'm about 
to become an awker/awkoligist/awkeneer whatever. Unless somebody can 
save me.

g

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Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-08 Thread Ken Yap

  echo foo | sed 's/$/|/' | tr '|' '\015'
 
 assuming | doesn't appear in the text. Or maybe some control character
 that doesn't confuse ash. Works for me with ^A.


alas, no tr on tomsrtbt...deeply depressing

What version of tomsbtrt is this? I seem to remember he adopted busybox
and tr should be a trivial function to implement. Yes, I'm quite sure tr
is in busybox, at least the version in floppyfw.

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Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-08 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, enterfornone said:
I think some of you zealots need to get out of this dreamworld.  Linux is
not yet a significant player on the desktop.  Most people do need Work skills
to be employable.  

Besides, countering every anti-linux arguement with "troll" is very childish,
I think Godwin's law needs to be updated to include troll along with nazi.

regardless of your opinion, posting pro-MS propaganda to a *linux* list
is going to be classed as a troll.  Why?  because this is a *linux*
list.  Let me repeat, just in case you didn't get it.  the 'L' in SLUG
stands for Linux.

And as far as 'Linux is not yet a significant player on the desktop' -
that's hardly relevant when talking about documentation.  I use TeX on
non-linux machines as well, and many of these are servers.  And yes, I
am creating professional documentation, for the record.

I still disagree that there exist 'Word Skills'.  You have a paperclip
to do the thinking for you, what skills will you possibly learn? :)

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Re: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems

2001-03-08 Thread Andrew Reilly

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:11:08PM +1100, Steve Kowalik wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:59:08PM +1100, Michael Covi uttered:
  Define a sudo for startx ?
 
 MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ummm, no.
 
 Look for your Xwrapper.config:
 
 steven@broken:~$ cat /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
 allowed_users=console
 nice_value=-10
 
 You may have something else in there such as 'allowed_users=root' or something.

Of course, the right answer is "xdm". startx was never the way X
was "meant" to be run, a bunch of X-authority security measures
are disabled when you do that.

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Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-08 Thread Geoffrey Robertson

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:54:05PM +1100, Ken Yap wrote:
 echo foo | sed 's/$/|/' | tr '|' '\015'
  
  assuming | doesn't appear in the text. Or maybe some control character
  that doesn't confuse ash. Works for me with ^A.
 
 
 alas, no tr on tomsrtbt...deeply depressing
 
 What version of tomsbtrt is this? I seem to remember he adopted busybox
 and tr should be a trivial function to implement. Yes, I'm quite sure tr
 is in busybox, at least the version in floppyfw.

I'm using a reasonably receint one. But to be sure I just tried
the latest on aarnet. It has busybox but not tr.

btw, thanks for the help on this Ken; 

why it's important to me:
I'm now teaching 6 Linux classes a week, and about 1/3 of the students
(30 or 40) do not have access to a Linux box to practice on or do there
homework on. 

So this week's lesson was making and using a tomsrtbt.
The idea being that they could practice using the commands and utilities
wherever they  and also mount a DOS floppy to practice using an editor.

If they  can add the \015's they will be able to print their work in the 
library or where ever they can find a box running one of those legacy
commercial OSs. 

If I carn't work aroun this I might have to make a custom tomsrtbt
with a tr.

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Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-08 Thread Ken Yap

I'm using a reasonably receint one. But to be sure I just tried
the latest on aarnet. It has busybox but not tr.

busybox has multiple personalities. Try

ln busybox tr

and see if tr will work.

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Re: [SLUG] Setting up PPPd for dial in.

2001-03-08 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who="Richard Pang"

 options.ttyS1 has the following
 205.199.2.14:205.199.2.14
 netmask 255.255.255.0

Look in man pppd for ms-dns and ms-wins. They're cute and perky and helpful.
(Yes, I have had a number of drinks.)

Also, look up issue 36 (I think) of Linux Gazette, it has a step-by-step. LG
is one of the most looked-over, brilliant pieces of Linux-helpy literature
on the net.

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Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-08 Thread Geoffrey Robertson

On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:49:05AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote:
 I'm using a reasonably receint one. But to be sure I just tried
 the latest on aarnet. It has busybox but not tr.
 
 busybox has multiple personalities. Try
 
 ln busybox tr
 
 and see if tr will work.
 

nobody home:

# ln busybox tr
# echo foo | tr [a-z] [A-Z]
error: called as tr
#

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Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-08 Thread Ken Yap

So this week's lesson was making and using a tomsrtbt.
The idea being that they could practice using the commands and utilities
wherever they  and also mount a DOS floppy to practice using an editor.

Also you should look into whether the editor already has a DOS mode
where things are written out with CR NL line ends. vim does: set ff=dos.

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[SLUG] DOS EOL in tomsbtrt

2001-03-08 Thread Ken Yap

Hector, BTW, to do it in awk:

$ echo foo | awk '{printf "%s\r\n", $0}' | od -bc
000 146 157 157 015 012
  f   o   o  \r  \n
005

There's more than one way to do it (in Unix).

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[SLUG] Dell Laptop with Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Bill Shui

Hi there,
I am thinking of buying a laptop for work/uni, etc.
I came across the Dell Latitude C600 series.

With some modification such as 256MB RAM, PIII850, 20GB IDE HDD,
etc.

I was just wandering if anyone has bought a Dell laptop similar to the
spec above. If so, how smooth does debian potato run on these machines?

Your reply would be much appreciated.

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[SLUG] Re: Dell Laptop with Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Steve Dobson

Hi Bill
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:40:21AM +1100, Bill Shui wrote:
 Hi there,
   I am thinking of buying a laptop for work/uni, etc.
   I came across the Dell Latitude C600 series.
 
   With some modification such as 256MB RAM, PIII850, 20GB IDE HDD,
   etc.
 
   I was just wandering if anyone has bought a Dell laptop similar to the
   spec above. If so, how smooth does debian potato run on these machines?
 
   Your reply would be much appreciated.
 

I have two Dells running Debian - no real bother.  If you chek out the 
archeives you might see answers to any C600 issues.

Steve

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Re: [SLUG] Setting up PPPd for dial in.

2001-03-08 Thread Michael

Do you  have ip_forwarding enabled? Sounds like you don't as you say you
can only ping the machine your dialed in to... also, do you have proxyarp
in the options.ttyS[0-1] file for the port your modem is sitting on.

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Richard Pang wrote:

  a couple of things, but it would be helpful to know more about the
  symptoms: can you see the linux box? can you see any of the rest of the
  subnet?
 
 Laptop connects establishes, but can't see anything. I've tried pinging
 205.199.2.* ad infinitum.
 the only one that works is 205.199.2.14, but that's the local machine.
 
  you set the IP, mask etc.etc. in /etc/ppp/options.ttyS?
 options.ttyS1 has the following
 205.199.2.14:205.199.2.14
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 
  make sure you specify "proxyarp" in /etc/ppp/options
 yep
 
  make sure "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" returns 1
 yep
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Michael

I am running 2.2r2 also, not game to run the unstable tree for fear of
breaking machine whom I cant just walk upto and reset :)

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Dave Fitch wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:57:33PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
  apparently this is the UNSTABLE release ?  I would have thought that a 
 
 can't help with the errors sorry, but potato (2.2 I saw at the
 show) is the last stable release.  I'm running it here (2.2r2).
 
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[SLUG] Perl Help - reply..

2001-03-08 Thread Umar Goldeli

Oops.. I deleted the email before I got to reply to it.. but I think it
was a Bronwyn that asked the question about cookies + perl... :)

Anyway, something along these lines:

ncftpget \
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/CPAN/modules/by-module/CGI/CGI.pm-2.752.tar.gz

tar -zxvf CGI.pm-2.752.tar.gz
cd CGI.pm-2.752
perl Makefile.PL
make
make install

perldoc CGI
/cookie
/cookie
/cookie (until you get to the bits about cookies)



-
#!/usr/bin/perl

use CGI;



:)


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[SLUG] Linux Expo

2001-03-08 Thread Richard

Dear All

Dear fellow Linux user's.  I'd like to introduce myself.  I'm the
local organiser for a LUG in northern England.  Yes, it does rain a
lot and yes the cricket is  !

Rumour has it that the Linux Expo is on in Sydney just now.  Anyone
know the URL for it ?

I'm afraid that I have to admit that I'm partial to the SuSE
distribution.  Do they have a stand at the expo ?

Thanks


Richard


Sheffield Linux
User's Group


http://www.sheflug.co.uk


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Re: [SLUG] Linux Expo

2001-03-08 Thread Dave Fitch

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:45:23PM +, Richard wrote:
 Rumour has it that the Linux Expo is on in Sydney just now.  Anyone
 know the URL for it ?

www.linuxexpo.com.au is the only one I know of.

 I'm afraid that I have to admit that I'm partial to the SuSE
 distribution.  Do they have a stand at the expo ?

didn't see one (but then I didn't see everything).

Dave.

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RE: [SLUG] dhcpcd dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.

2001-03-08 Thread Jim Crawley

 What do you want dhcpd (not dhcpcd) for? Do you have other boxes
 (Windoze) you need to assign addresses to?

So that when people bring their computers over, they just need to plug it
into the network and they're automatically on the internet ... don't have to
worry about settings.

  Secondly, I'm on BPA.  When my linux box boots, it claims
 it brings up
 eth0, eth1 then bpalogin without a problem, but I cannot access the
 internet.  What I have to do is "ifdown eth0", "ifup eth0", then stop and
 restart bpalogin.  I've mentioned this on the bigpond linux
 newsgroups but
 haven't had much luck from them getting help either.

 bpalogin writes via syslog into /var/log/messages so have a look there
 to see what it didn't like the first time.

Mar  7 15:45:01 diddums network: Setting network parameters:  succeeded
Mar  7 15:45:02 diddums ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
Mar  7 15:45:03 diddums network: Bringing up interface lo:  succeeded
Mar  7 15:45:03 diddums ifup: Determining IP information for eth0...
Mar  7 15:45:10 diddums ifup:  done.
Mar  7 15:45:10 diddums network: Bringing up interface eth0:  succeeded
Mar  7 15:45:12 diddums network: Bringing up interface eth1:  succeeded

As you can see, there doesn't appear to be anything it didn't like other
than that second message which I don't understand ...


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[SLUG] Re: Linux Expo

2001-03-08 Thread Richard

Dave

 www.linuxexpo.com.au is the only one I know of.


Ah..  thanks very much :)  Looks like they aren't bothering this year.

A friend of mine who runs the SuSE Ltd in England is in Oz just now
for a holiday.  Just wondered if he was in Sydney.

Looks like it's a good trade show.  Wish I was there instead of
suffering the pouring rain here in England.

Thank you



Richard


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Re: [SLUG] dhcpcd dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.

2001-03-08 Thread John Clarke

On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 08:23:31AM +1100, Jim Crawley wrote:

 Mar  7 15:45:02 diddums ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable

I had this problem just after I built my first 2.2.x kernel a couple of
years ago.  It's caused by the network card driver module not being
loaded before trying to bring up the network.  Rebuild your kernel with
kmod (kernel module loader) enabled.


Cheers,

John
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Re: [SLUG] dhcpcd dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.

2001-03-08 Thread Gareth Walters


- Original Message -
From: "Jim Crawley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: [SLUG] dhcpcd  dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.


  What do you want dhcpd (not dhcpcd) for? Do you have other boxes
  (Windoze) you need to assign addresses to?
 So that when people bring their computers over, they just need to plug it
 into the network and they're automatically on the internet ... don't have
to
 worry about settings.
snip


Try checking your kernel configuration, I believe you need to have
CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER enabled for
dhcpd to work.



---Gareth Walters



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Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-08 Thread Peter Rundle

 Back to the topic: We should not be pushing for a special Linux interface
 for BAS lodgement (that will only scare them); instead we should be pushing
 for a STANDARD html interface for BAS lodgement that does not rely on
 proprietary extensions that cause browsers to crash etc.

Agreed!

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Re: [SLUG] Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Dave Fitch

B
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:55:13AM +1100
X-Url: http://www.suburbia.com.au/~davidf
X-Message-Flag: OutLook: a virus spreader

On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:55:13AM +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote:
 Bring that machine to the install fest ;)

actually if you are going Jon, I can burn another copy of
the iso I've got (that I know works) and bring it along
(I was thinking of dropping in for a sticky-beak).

Dave.

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Re: [SLUG] Dell Laptop with Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Martin

 One of the benefits of this will be having many able hands around. I brought my 
partly functional C600 to the Debian stand at Linux Expo last night and while I was 
evangelising Debian to hapless passer-by's a few people jumped on my laptop and 
finished tweaking XFree 4 and other various things I hadn't got around to making work 
properly.
 
 Ta guys!

but poor old jan almost tore his hair out to get it there... :)

the moral of the story... missing symbolic links are bad mmmkay!

later
marty

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Re: [SLUG] Dell Laptop with Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Craige McWhirter

Thus spake Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  One of the benefits of this will be having many able hands around. I brought my 
partly functional C600 to the Debian stand at Linux Expo last night and while I was 
evangelising Debian to hapless passer-by's a few people jumped on my laptop and 
finished tweaking XFree 4 and other various things I hadn't got around to making work 
properly.
  
  Ta guys!
 
 but poor old jan almost tore his hair out to get it there... :)
 
 the moral of the story... missing symbolic links are bad mmmkay!

That was a little doozie when Jan told me about it. XFree doesn't use the /etc/X11/X 
symlink to the appropriate server any more but GDM still wants it. That's why they 
call it "unstable" though ;)

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RE: [SLUG] VPN/L2TP?

2001-03-08 Thread David Kempe

 I need to allow Win2k notebooks to VPN into the network via the Internet
 through a RH7 gateway. Remote users will have dynamic IP addresses and
 connect from all over the world.

 What is best to use? Has anyone had any experience with L2TP?

 I have freeswan running between sites, but can't get Win2k to work in a
 client-to-subnet arrangement - so I guess I need to use something else.

If you dig around the freeswan site there is some links to documentation
that describes how to do this.
Other than that you could run poptop and have the win2k clients connect in
PPTP mode to your RH7 server

dave


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[SLUG] Install Fest Reminder

2001-03-08 Thread Craige McWhirter

Response to the install fest has been quite good at the Expo and as a result we're 
expecting a good roll up. Due to the response, we're going to need quite a few 
installers, lurkers, BBQ assistants etc. If you can make it and help out, we'd love to 
see you there :)

If anyone wants a lift and can make it to the CBD on Saturday morning, drop me a line.

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Re: [SLUG] Dell Laptop with Potato

2001-03-08 Thread Craige McWhirter

Bill, I got one these for work yesterday and now have a happy Debian system. The only 
issue I know of and haven't tried to get working yet is that Potato does not have 
support for the audio chipset - Maestro 3 - and a few months ago on a previous model I 
could not get sound working. I'm kinda hoping this has changed, I'll find out soon 
enough.

As you've emailed both debian-laptop and SLUG I'm assuming you're in Sydney. On 
Saturday, 10th March (ie: tomorrow) we're holding an install fest, I'd recommend 
coming along - details are at http://www.slug.org.au/ . 

One of the benefits of this will be having many able hands around. I brought my partly 
functional C600 to the Debian stand at Linux Expo last night and while I was 
evangelising Debian to hapless passer-by's a few people jumped on my laptop and 
finished tweaking XFree 4 and other various things I hadn't got around to making work 
properly.

Ta guys!

Thus spake Bill Shui ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Hi there,
   I am thinking of buying a laptop for work/uni, etc.
   I came across the Dell Latitude C600 series.
 
   With some modification such as 256MB RAM, PIII850, 20GB IDE HDD,
   etc.
 
   I was just wandering if anyone has bought a Dell laptop similar to the
   spec above. If so, how smooth does debian potato run on these machines?
 
   Your reply would be much appreciated.
 
 cheers.
 Bill
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Re: [SLUG] DOS EOL in tomsbtrt

2001-03-08 Thread Geoffrey Robertson

On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:15:07AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote:
 Hector, BTW, to do it in awk:
 
 $ echo foo | awk '{printf "%s\r\n", $0}' | od -bc
 000 146 157 157 015 012
   f   o   o  \r  \n
 005
 
 There's more than one way to do it (in Unix).


problem solved 

thanks Ken

geoffrey   aka hector

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[SLUG] Debian anXiety

2001-03-08 Thread David


Installed Debian, and for some reason (probably my mistake) X server
failed. At the command line I tried to run anXious (as root), but I got no
output at all. It simply returned to prompt. So did anXious --test

I've now configured X using xf86config and it's running, but why did
anXious not do anything at all? Is it not supposed to be a configuration
tool?

TIA, David


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RE: Re: [SLUG] Dell Laptop with Potato

2001-03-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The latest ALSA drivers work just fine with my Latitude CPxJ650, also using Maestro-3 
chipset. I think I was using v 0.5X

Regards

Mehmet Ozdemir

Original Message:
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From: Craige McWhirter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:46:22 +1100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Dell Laptop with Potato


Bill, I got one these for work yesterday and now have a happy Debian system. The only 
issue I know of and haven't tried to get working yet is that Potato does not have 
support for the audio chipset - Maestro 3 - and a few months ago on a previous model I 
could not get sound working. I'm kinda hoping this has changed, I'll find out soon 
enough.




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RE: [SLUG] dhcpcd dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.

2001-03-08 Thread Jim Crawley

  Mar  7 15:45:02 diddums ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable

 I had this problem just after I built my first 2.2.x kernel a couple of
 years ago.  It's caused by the network card driver module not being
 loaded before trying to bring up the network.  Rebuild your kernel with
 kmod (kernel module loader) enabled.

I've upgraded my kernel to 2.2.17-14, but at the time (and even now) the
kernel-sources and kernel-headers packages aren't available for it for i586
(and I can't find kernel-headers.2.2.17-14.*.rpm at all).  Should I get the
i386 version of kernel-sources, previous kernel version (which I have on my
redhat 7 CD), or try something else altogether?


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Re: [SLUG] dhcpcd dhcpd problems on RedHat 7.

2001-03-08 Thread John Clarke

On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 03:45:43PM +1100, Jim Crawley wrote:

   I've upgraded my kernel to 2.2.17-14, but at the time (and even now) the
 kernel-sources and kernel-headers packages aren't available for it for i586

There are no special i586 source packages.  The i586 binary packages
have merely compiled with `-mcpu=i586'.

 (Should I get the i386 version of kernel-sources, 

Yes, or just grab the latest kernel source (2.2.18) from
mirror.aarnet.edu.au and build that.


Cheers,

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