Re: [SLUG] LaTeX - Word?

2002-08-14 Thread Melinda Taylor


On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

::Hi all,
::
::It look like the recruiter parasite absolutely refuse to handle
::PDF documents and I'll have to find a way to convert my beautifully
::crafted LaTeX resume into Word.
::
::Does anybody have another solution?

I hate to bring up microsoft but there is a windows based application
called tex2word (http://www.word2tex.com) which people in my dept have
been using successfully. So if you have access to windows it may be worth
a try.

Thanks,

melinda


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[SLUG] Multiple X displays

2002-08-14 Thread Melinda Taylor



Hello all,

I have come across this problem when using multiple X displays in redhat
7.3. If my inittab file is set to '3' (ie starting up without X) I can
login and then start up X using the 'startx' command.

I can then CTRL_ALT-F1 and command line login again, and logon to my other
server using the command:

X :1 -indirect server vt8

I can then logon to my chosen broadcasting server and the use CTRL-ALT-F7
and CTRL-ALT-F8 to change between my local X session and the session where
I have logged on to another host respectively.

However, if I set the boottime run level to 5 (ie X starts up at boot)
when I try to do the same thing (CNTRL-ALT-F1) it just brings up a grey
screen when I execute X :1 -indirect server vt8 and doesn't ever present
a chooser screen. The X error log /varr/log/Xfree:1.log doesn't tell me
anything either, no error messages

Can someone else try this out on their machine and see. Note that when
booting up in runtime 5 and executing 'startx -- :1 vt8' to start another
X session -  does work, but startx can't be used to connect to a
remote server that is broadcasting (am I correct?)

Thanks,

Melinda







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Re: [SLUG] Multiple X displays

2002-08-14 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Melinda Taylor

 However, if I set the boottime run level to 5 (ie X starts up at boot)
 when I try to do the same thing (CNTRL-ALT-F1) it just brings up a grey
 screen when I execute X :1 -indirect server vt8 and doesn't ever present
 a chooser screen. The X error log /varr/log/Xfree:1.log doesn't tell me
 anything either, no error messages
 
 Can someone else try this out on their machine and see. Note that when
 booting up in runtime 5 and executing 'startx -- :1 vt8' to start another
 X session -  does work, but startx can't be used to connect to a remote
 server that is broadcasting (am I correct?)

*boggle*

Strangely enough, I was trying to do this the other night at Granville TAFE,
to give my Debian talk. My iBook doesn't have VGA output, so I often use GDM
and someone else's notebook and X server to do talks.

Unfortunately, I couldn't get it going, with exactly the same problems
you've described. I did not try getting out of runlevel 5.

  (This is a good example why using inittab for X is a bad idea - I couldn't
  simply stop kdm and do my own thing.)

I reckon you should take this up on one of the Red Hat lists if you don't
get an answer here.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Multiple X displays

2002-08-14 Thread James Gregory

Melinda Taylor wrote:

Can someone else try this out on their machine and see. Note that when
booting up in runtime 5 and executing 'startx -- :1 vt8' to start another
X session -  does work, but startx can't be used to connect to a
remote server that is broadcasting (am I correct?)

you can do startx -- -broadcast IIRC.

however, what is X? is it a symlink to something else? does running 
XFree86 -broadcast :1 work?

We have a rehdat 6.2 box on the network here that quite happily does 
this from my mandrake system.

James.

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Re: [SLUG] VPN with failover

2002-08-14 Thread Howard Lowndes

Richard, a lot depends on what your basic config is.

Somehow you need to be able to determine that your primary link has failed
and whether that failure is just the VPN tunnel or the link itself and
hence also the VPN, and if so which end is at fault.

I use BP ADSL together with VPNs for a lot of my clients so I see ppp
interfaces which means that I can do ipsec, dyn dns and firewall things in
the /etc/ppp/ip-up.local and /etc/ppp/ip-down.local scripts.  If you don't
have a ppp interface then you need to think how else you can determine the
health of the links.


On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Richard Hayes wrote:

 Dear lists,

 It easy enough to create VPN using FreesWan.
 With a connection between Sydney - Melbourne but I would like to use an
 alternate route if the link fails.

 My thinking is to create a script 'ppp-vpn' with the usual stuff but then if
 the link does not respond within 10 mins the box runs a scripts
 'vpn-alternate' using a modem and changes the routing table.

 Are there any problems doing this?

 Are there any pre-written scripts that I could modify?

 Any other ideas or suggestions

 regards,

 Richard Hayes


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[SLUG] Yamaha YMF-724F Soundcard

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Hewitt

Hi Everyone,

I did manage to get my soundcard working sweetly with the standard
kernel drivers, however some people on the list told me that certain
games wouldn't work because of some features not implimented with the
kernel module and suggested to try ALSA.

I have looked at the ALSA site and my card doesn't seem to be listed as
an ALSA compatible card. Has someone here actually got this card working
with ALSA and if so which module did you end up using??

Cheers,

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[SLUG] Majordomo to Mailman

2002-08-14 Thread Howard Lowndes

Has anyone done a switch from Majordomo to Mailman without losing archives
etc.?

Care to give any pointers?

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Re: [SLUG] Yamaha YMF-724F Soundcard

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Hardy

On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 17:04, Adam Hewitt wrote:
 I have looked at the ALSA site and my card doesn't seem to be listed as
 an ALSA compatible card. Has someone here actually got this card working
 with ALSA and if so which module did you end up using??

The sound card matrix at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ lists a
couple of entries for YMF-724 cards, and link to a pdf of technical
documentation for the YMF-724F chipset.

According to
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=Yamahacard=chip=YMF724module=ymfpci
 the driver you want is snd-ymfpci.  That page also covers installing ALSA fairly well.

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Re: [SLUG] Yamaha YMF-724F Soundcard

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Hewitt

Please disregard this email...it appears I was looking at the wrong
list...


On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 17:04, Adam Hewitt wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I did manage to get my soundcard working sweetly with the standard
 kernel drivers, however some people on the list told me that certain
 games wouldn't work because of some features not implimented with the
 kernel module and suggested to try ALSA.
 
 I have looked at the ALSA site and my card doesn't seem to be listed as
 an ALSA compatible card. Has someone here actually got this card working
 with ALSA and if so which module did you end up using??
 
 Cheers,
 
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[SLUG] MailMan no work no mo

2002-08-14 Thread David Fisher

Evenin'

I am running a  Debian woody server which runs several MailMan lists which 
have been running sweetly until just recently.  The only thing I can think of 
that has changed is that, like you do, I installed the recent MailMan 
security fix for woody that came out a cuppla days ago.

Now, no messages are getting through.  If I do a test subscribe from the web 
interface, I get the acknowledgement email asking for a reply but nothing 
comes back.

A check in the logs reveals this suspicious tid-bit:

Aug 14 18:48:03 2002 qrunner(1300):   File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailComma
ndHandler.py, line 123, in ParseMailCommands
Aug 14 18:48:03 2002 qrunner(1300):  precedence = msg.get('precedence', 
'').lower()
Aug 14 18:48:03 2002 qrunner(1300): AttributeError :  'string' object has no 
attribute 'lower'


Is anyone else having trouble since the new version was released?  Possibly 
one of our Pythons might see the problem?

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX - Word?

2002-08-14 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:34:25 +1000
Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 It look like the recruiter parasite absolutely refuse to handle
 PDF documents 

Well it looks like the recruiter parasite has agreed to live with my
PDF document :-). I rang the guy (more than a week after he requested 
the Word version), insisted that I had not found a good way to convert 
my document to Word and it looks like he bought it.

I also offerred to create a version of the document with all my personal
details removed if he needs it.

I'm now going to stand my ground on this and NEVER again supply any
of these parasites a Word document.

Erik
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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX - Word?

2002-08-14 Thread David Fisher

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik de Castro 
L
opo writes:
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:34:25 +1000
Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm now going to stand my ground on this and NEVER again supply any
of these parasites a Word document.



Good.  Give the turd Postscript next time.

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[SLUG] strange mounting/filesystem behaviour

2002-08-14 Thread David Kempe

Hey Sluggers,

I am setting up a server here that is SMP, with an onboard SCSI controller
that has 1 36Gb disk and an Adaptec 3210s RAID controller with 3 more 18Gb
disks, 2 in a RAID1 array and 1 just by itself. So the disks are /dev/sda
for the onboard, the single on the RAID controller is /dev/sdb and the RAID1
aray is /dev/sdc.

The drivers for the SCSI controller and the RAID controller seem to be
working great.
I am using Debian Woody - the official release ISO with kernel 2.4.18-smp
kernel image (standard debian download).

In trying to get the disks working, I have partioned them like so:

  NameFlags  Part Type  FS Type  [Label]Size
(MB)

sda1Primary   Linux swap
1019.94
sda2BootPrimary   Linux ext3
3997.49
sda3Primary   Linux ext3
31395.90

   sdb1Primary   Linux ext3
18194.32
   sdc1Primary   Linux ext3
18194.32



/dev/sda is the problem disk as when i I mount /dev/sda3

# mount /dev/sda3 /dump/

it works but,

# df -mh
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 3.7G  166M  3.3G   5% /
/dev/sdb1  17G   33M   15G   1% /home
/dev/sdc1  17G   71M   15G   1% /var
/dev/sda3  14G   33M   13G   1% /dump

So why does cfdisk report 33Gb (reality) when df reports 13G?
any suggestions?

thanks,

dave

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Re: [SLUG] What distribution???

2002-08-14 Thread Jessica Mayo

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, James Gregory wrote:
 Brendan Dacre wrote:
  production and I want them to always work, be stable and easily 
  maintainable (upgradeable and patchable). 
 
 The standard answer at this point is debian. I suspect I will be 
 considered odd for saying so, but I've not had good experiences with 
 debian and upgrading software.

My gut feeling at this point is Debian, But I am only just about to start
using it myself. I'm normally a Slackware user, but Slackware is targeted
at production environments where the intention is not to upgrade anything
that works, and it all works out of the box. i.e. upgrades not automated.

 If you really do want to start from scratch (and IMHO it's much more 
 work than it's worth), try linuxfromscratch 
 (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/)

I will pass on advice from someone I know who's done it: It's far easier
to customise (and strip down) slackware than to build from scratch. :)

 In the other two cases, again, any packaged distribution will do that. 
 You just need to add the packages to your CD and add those packages to 
 the relevant list of packages.

Agreed. They all have methods of setting up a custom 'Standard'
installation set, and all have the option of installing or not installing
development packages and X.

 Ok, I recommend the following:
 
 use Debian on your servers. If you don't ask it to do extraordinary 
 stuff (and I know I'm going to be rebutted there) it will work, it will 
 be stable and secure  and it will give you an easy way to upgrade your 
 software.
 
 For your workstation machines, Mandrake is great. It's a really nice 
 desktop OS. It also has a easy way to install and upgrade new software, 

On the whole, good advice. It's up to you whether you want the variety of
using two distributions rather than one. :)

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX - Word?

2002-08-14 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:48:45 +1000
David Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good.  Give the turd Postscript next time.

Postscript is too hard to display on windows. I'll send them PDF.

Erik
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[SLUG] Fw: help!

2002-08-14 Thread Sammy




- Original Message - 
From: Sammy 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:39 PM
Subject: help!

Hi there,

I came along to the Linux workshop the other week, 
learned lots of things and had some new software installed onto my poota - 
specifically Mandrake 8.2 and OpenOffice: thank you! I was talking to Richard 
and Bradley I think.

When I set up the poota back home and plugged in 
the external modem I forgot to bring leads for to the workshop, all was well. 
However, when I tried to open Evolution, it crashed. I couldn't even open a 
terminal screen. I reset it, and since thenMandrake hasn't been able to 
boot up.

Do you have any ideas about (a) why it's not 
booting up and (b) what can be done so that Mandrake is happy 
again...

Thanks,

Sam


Re: [SLUG] strange mounting/filesystem behaviour

2002-08-14 Thread Jessica Mayo

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, David Kempe wrote:
   NameFlags  Part Type  FS Type  [Label]Size
 (MB)
 
 sda1Primary   Linux swap
 1019.94
 sda2BootPrimary   Linux ext3
 3997.49
 sda3Primary   Linux ext3
 31395.90
 
 
 # df -mh
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda2 3.7G  166M  3.3G   5% /
 /dev/sdb1  17G   33M   15G   1% /home
 /dev/sdc1  17G   71M   15G   1% /var
 /dev/sda3  14G   33M   13G   1% /dump
 
 So why does cfdisk report 33Gb (reality) when df reports 13G?
 any suggestions?

The filesystem is smaller than the partition?
This could happen if mkfs wrongly detected the partition size.
I've not seen this happen except when I've had cause to do raw copies of
partitions, but you can check this by doing:

dumpe2fs /dev/sda3 | grep 'Block.*:'

(the last part so it doesn't fill your screen)
Multiply 'Block count' by 'Block size' and compare this with your figures
above.

If it's the same as what df is reporting, then your filesystem
isn't using the whole partition, and you should probably back up and
recreate it, probably giving the real size to mkfs.

If it's the same as what cfdisk reports, I don't have a clue what's going
on. :)
 
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Re: [SLUG] Fw: help!

2002-08-14 Thread Stuart

Hi Sam,

If you could tell us what the screen says as it's trying to boot up that
would help. 

So far it could be:

a) hardware
b) disk check required
c) something else

We'd love to help if we can.


Stu


On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 21:20, Sammy wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sammy 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:39 PM
 Subject: help!
 
 
 Hi there,
 
 I came along to the Linux workshop the other week, learned lots of things and had 
some new software installed onto my poota - specifically Mandrake 8.2 and OpenOffice: 
thank you! I was talking to Richard and Bradley I think.
 
 When I set up the poota back home and plugged in the external modem I forgot to 
bring leads for to the workshop, all was well. However, when I tried to open 
Evolution, it crashed. I couldn't even open a terminal screen. I reset it, and since 
then Mandrake hasn't been able to boot up.
 
 Do you have any ideas about (a) why it's not booting up and (b) what can be done so 
that Mandrake is happy again...
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sam


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[SLUG] video4linux

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Garrone

Hi,
I have a tv tuner card (pv-bt878p+ w/FM) going ok with xawtv. It can
save
avi files, at the rate of about 160 meg per minute. Xanim plays it
back.

I'm having a bit of trouble finding my way round the the rest of it
though.  I have been looking at the debian/woody vstream package,
mjpegtools, and fame et al, and getting problems such as:
- lavrec fails in an ioctl call
- stream trys to open ludicrous device files, and attempts to open
read/write
- mjpegtools fails to compile.
- The linux howto suggests a completely unknown package, called vcr.
- fame fails to compile, and a third utility with it wouldnt even
unpack.

What I want to know is, whats the secret here? How do you make
compressed
videos? Has anybody able to string complete sentences together
documented it? Something out there has to work. Especially with a debian
system. If anyone knows, please post me a few links.

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[SLUG] LDAP and mail aliases

2002-08-14 Thread Tony Green

Boomshanka!

I've just started playing with LDAP in my dev environment, I want it to
do the following :

* UNIX authentication
* Samba authentication
* Apache authentication
* POP/IMAP authentication
* Mail routing
* Contact list stuff

Most of this is working OK (openldap/sendmail/courier all running on
debian).

The one thing I'm having trouble with is setting up LDAP to support mail
aliases.  To clarify, I want to be able to set up mailing lists and
contact groups in ldap and then add existing LDAP users into those
groups.

I've looked at a couple of other MTA's (postfix and courier) in case it
was a sendmail issue, no difference really.

Has anyone done this (I do it with Netscape at the moment) with any
standard linux software?

Comments, suggestions?

TIA

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Re: [SLUG] video4linux

2002-08-14 Thread Jan Schmidt

quote who=Peter Garrone

 I'm having a bit of trouble finding my way round the the rest of it
 though.  I have been looking at the debian/woody vstream package,
 mjpegtools, and fame et al, and getting problems such as:
 - lavrec fails in an ioctl call
 - stream trys to open ludicrous device files, and attempts to open
 read/write
 - mjpegtools fails to compile.
 - The linux howto suggests a completely unknown package, called vcr.
 - fame fails to compile, and a third utility with it wouldnt even
 unpack.
 
 What I want to know is, whats the secret here? How do you make
 compressed
 videos? Has anybody able to string complete sentences together
 documented it? Something out there has to work. Especially with a debian
 system. If anyone knows, please post me a few links.
 

I've used vcr successfully to record avi movies in divx format...

The good news? It is in woody!

apt-cache show vcr 
Package: vcr
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Installed-Size: 212
Maintainer: David LaBissoniere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 1.09-4
Depends: libavifile0.6 (= 0.6.0.20011220-1.1), libc6 (= 2.2.4-4),
libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (= 1:2.95.4-0.010810)
Description: v4l video capture program
allows capturing and compressing segments of video from any
device supported by video4linux. It doesn't require a
graphical environment, and you can use all popular windows
codecs (like DivX, Indeo Video 5, etc) because VCR is built
around the avifile library.

It's a command line tool for recording... I use xine to play the movies back.

About 4 days about, also, there was the 1.0 release of a package called
cinelerra... which provides video editing facilities in a GPL package. I
spent a few minutes the other night trying to get it to compile on woody
without luck, but I plan to get that going, and I'll let SLUG know what my
experience is with it. 

Anyone else looked at cinelerra?

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] LDAP and mail aliases

2002-08-14 Thread Matthew Hannigan



Tony,
A quick google search found this:

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.12/cf/m4/ldap.html

there were a lot of other hits including a patch
from Sun to use LDAP for aliases.

Have no experience with it myself...

Regards

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Re: [SLUG] LDAP and mail aliases

2002-08-14 Thread Tony Green

On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 09:16, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 
 
 Tony,
 A quick google search found this:
 
   http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.12/cf/m4/ldap.html
 
 there were a lot of other hits including a patch
 from Sun to use LDAP for aliases.
 
 Have no experience with it myself...
 

That is what I already have (should have said, sorry).  It allows you to
set up a number of email addresses to be in a group, but not users.

I want a 'pointer' to user FRED in the LDAP entry for the mailing list,
not [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what that does).

Sorry - wasn't verbose enough before, but thanks for the info.

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RE: [SLUG] Linux Boot error Code

2002-08-14 Thread Wienand Ian


Warning : linear may generate cylinder # above 1023 at boot
Fatal : sector address 40122944 to large for linear ( try LBA 32 instead )

I'd say here is your problem.  It sounds like your BIOS is a bit old and
can't handle LBA32 mode, and the partition you are trying to boot from is
too far into your disk.  You can google around for information on trying to
boot above the 1023 limit; the long and the short of it is that IDE disks
were originally designed that each sector is addressed by a
Cylinder,Head,Track (C,H,T) tuple, and the old bios's have only 24 bits
assigned for this.  You end up with 10 bits for your cylinder address
(cylinder 0 is special hence 1023) and this limit.  LBA32 mode is an
extension that allows you to get around this, but it's no good if your bios
doesn't support it.

You have a number of options
* update your bios (maybe not an option)
* put your boot partition at the FRONT of your disk (probably best solution)
* get any old (small) drive and put that in and boot from that
* use a boot disk all the time

Good luck,

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[SLUG] Mailsweeper or mailmarshall

2002-08-14 Thread Howard Lowndes

Does anyone know of a Linux product that performs similar functions to
Mailsweeper or Mailmarshall.

I know about Sanitizer and Spam Assassin and various RBLs.  I also know
about AMAVIS, but I don't use it so I don't know how it compares.


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Re: [SLUG] Mailsweeper or mailmarshall

2002-08-14 Thread Tim White

MailScanner from www.mailscanner.info is good to tie all the pieces (RBL,
spamassassin, virus scanning,sendmail/exim) together.

I don't think it will scan for 'bad words', but it's in perl and open
source...

Tim White

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Subject: [SLUG] Mailsweeper or mailmarshall


 Does anyone know of a Linux product that performs similar functions to
 Mailsweeper or Mailmarshall.

 I know about Sanitizer and Spam Assassin and various RBLs.  I also know
 about AMAVIS, but I don't use it so I don't know how it compares.


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Re: [SLUG] Problems setting up a PPP Dial in Server

2002-08-14 Thread Pete de Zwart

It looks like your Layer 1's SNR is too low.

In short, your telephone connection is very bad, you may want to get your
provider to do a line noise check on it.

Try borrowing a nullmodem to test the ppp connection first.

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 08-01-2002 12:26:46.73 - Recv: CONNECT 9600/ARQ
 08-01-2002 12:26:46.73 - Interpreted response: Connect
 08-01-2002 12:26:46.73 - Connection established at 9600bps.
 08-01-2002 12:26:46.73 - Error-control on.
 08-01-2002 12:26:46.73 - Data compression off or unknown.
 08-01-2002 12:26:46.74 - 9600,N,8,1
 08-01-2002 12:27:20.59 - Hanging up the modem.
 08-01-2002 12:27:20.59 - Hardware hangup by lowering DTR.
 08-01-2002 12:27:21.32 - Recv: crlfNO CARRIERcrlf

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Re: [SLUG] LDAP and mail aliases

2002-08-14 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Tony Green

 That is what I already have (should have said, sorry).  It allows you to
 set up a number of email addresses to be in a group, but not users.
 
 I want a 'pointer' to user FRED in the LDAP entry for the mailing list,
 not [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what that does).

Why the distinction?

- Jeff

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[SLUG] 'lookup of host Primus failed in smarthost router'

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Bogacki

Hi,  when trying to send mail in Mutt I keep getting the message

'message x has been frozen
the sender is adam@Tux
The following adress(es) have yet to be delivered:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:  lookup of host Primus failed in smarthost router
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:  lookup of host Primus failed in smarthost router'

I've solved the other problems but this is not familiar.
Why is 'Primus' not being recognised ?

Adam Bogacki
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Re: [SLUG] LDAP and mail aliases

2002-08-14 Thread Tony Green

On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:55, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Tony Green
 
  That is what I already have (should have said, sorry).  It allows you to
  set up a number of email addresses to be in a group, but not users.
  
  I want a 'pointer' to user FRED in the LDAP entry for the mailing list,
  not [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what that does).
 
 Why the distinction?


So I don't have to worry about writing something that'll keep things in
sync.  If user FRED changes his email address etc, it should be
automatically updated in all mailing groups he's in.

It will also make the 'front end' look nicer.  I won't have to reverse
lookup each email address to find out who it belongs to.

I can write something to do it, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel.
 
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[SLUG] Vim help-file tags not found

2002-08-14 Thread Nick Croft

Goodday all!

I'm a bit bamboozled by the behaviour of Vim (6.1 Debian) on my machine
at home.  The F1 key doesn't produce the vim help-files.

I can read the help files in vim by specifically opening any of the files
in /usr/share/vim/vim61/doc. 

But if I try to jump to another tag using Ctrl-] I get an error message (E344
iirc - it's at home) about 'no tag file found' -- and yet the tag file is there
in the doc directory.

Strangely enough Ctrl-O will take me back to whatever help file I might have
previously looked at.

The prehistory is that I had my own compiled version (not a deb-src debuild
one) of vim, where the $VIMRUNTIME path was through /usr/local/share rather than 
/usr/share.

For wiw I've got exuberant-ctags, but I can't see why I should need to generate tags 
for vim.

This machine at work has a more-or-less parallel history, but works OK in this regard.

Any help would be much appreciated,

Nick
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Re: [SLUG] LDAP and mail aliases

2002-08-14 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Tony Green

 So I don't have to worry about writing something that'll keep things in
 sync.  If user FRED changes his email address etc, it should be
 automatically updated in all mailing groups he's in.
 
 It will also make the 'front end' look nicer.  I won't have to reverse
 lookup each email address to find out who it belongs to.
 
 I can write something to do it, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

Hmm, my perspective on this was that changing an email address is done so
rarely that it wasn't worth the abstraction - however, that also means that
writing code to handle that particular case is not quite worth it too. :-)

I'll have a look around, it's a good point.

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Re: [Oz-ISP] Mailsweeper or mailmarshall

2002-08-14 Thread Nick Slager

Thus spake Howard Lowndes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Does anyone know of a Linux product that performs similar functions to
 Mailsweeper or Mailmarshall.
 
 I know about Sanitizer and Spam Assassin and various RBLs.  I also know
 about AMAVIS, but I don't use it so I don't know how it compares.

The cool thing about mail{sweeper|marshal} is their MIME decoding
abilities, so you'll want to be checking out MIMEDefang,
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/

It's written in perl so performance at large sites may be suboptimal,
but in any case can't be worse than mailsweeper or mailmarshal.


Nick

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Re: [SLUG] Mailsweeper or mailmarshall

2002-08-14 Thread Richard Ames


http://www.messagewall.org/   ?



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[SLUG] Konsole 'flashing' behaviour with Mutt

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Bogacki

Hi, when I use Mutt in Konsole the image appears and disappears in a 
'flashing' mode,
with perhaps a 0.5 second interval. How do I stop this ?

Adam Bogacki,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (forwarding).

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[SLUG] RH7.2 Networking

2002-08-14 Thread Simon Bryan

Hi all,
I am installing a new system IPEX P4 1.6Ghz - same as an existing machine I
have as a server. When I run the install (from the CD). It does not detect
the Network card on install and so does not set it up. Once it is installed
I have tried netconf, and although this writes the details to ifcfg-eth0 the
network does not start.

How do I get networking installed? This is a server only with no X windows
interface.

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[SLUG] Directory removal

2002-08-14 Thread Scott

Hi all,
A directory has been created of which we can't remove it. The reason
being is we can't see it!
I have found out how to list it in octal, which is: \033[C\033
But, how do I delete it?

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Directory removal

2002-08-14 Thread Matthew Dalton

Scott wrote:
 A directory has been created of which we can't remove it. The reason
 being is we can't see it!
 I have found out how to list it in octal, which is: \033[C\033
 But, how do I delete it?

Try 'rm -ri *' in the directory above, and answer yes when it askes you
if you want to delete it.

disclaimer
I'm not responsible if you accidently remove the wrong thing though.
/disclamer

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RE: [SLUG] Directory removal

2002-08-14 Thread Scott

Tried, but there is over 3000 files in there

Cheers,

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Dalton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2002 3:25 PM
To: Scott
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Directory removal


Scott wrote:
 A directory has been created of which we can't remove it. The reason
 being is we can't see it!
 I have found out how to list it in octal, which is: \033[C\033
 But, how do I delete it?

Try 'rm -ri *' in the directory above, and answer yes when it askes you
if you want to delete it.

disclaimer
I'm not responsible if you accidently remove the wrong thing though.
/disclamer

Matthew

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Re: [SLUG] Directory removal

2002-08-14 Thread John Clarke

On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 03:31:34PM +1000, Scott wrote:

  I have found out how to list it in octal, which is: \033[C\033
  But, how do I delete it?

Octal 33 is escape.  You can type special characters using control-v. 
Try `ls control-v escape [C control-v escape'.  If this shows the right
file, repeat with `rm' instead of `ls'.

It looks like some sort of terminal escape sequence.  `Escape [C' moves
the cursor right one column.


Cheers,

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[SLUG] Directory removal

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Chubb

 scott == scott  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

scott Hi all, A directory has been created of which we can't remove
scott it. The reason being is we can't see it!  I have found out how
scott to list it in octal, which is: \033[C\033 But, how do I delete
scott it?

rmdir '^VESC[C^VESC'

(that's control-V escape left-bracket C control-V escape)
The control-V lets the escape get through the shell, assuming you're
using bash and you haven't remapped the keyboard in weird ways.

Petr C
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Re: [SLUG] Vim help-file tags not found

2002-08-14 Thread Nick Croft

 
 But if I try to jump to another tag using Ctrl-] I get an error message (E344
 iirc - it's at home) about 'no tag file found' -- and yet the tag file is there
 in the doc directory.

And if i just invoke the help-files from the F1 key, I get:

  E433: No tags file
  E426: tag not found: help.txt
 
No Vim experts here?

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RE: [SLUG] Directory removal

2002-08-14 Thread Scott

Cheers,
It worked perfectly!

Regards,

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Bennetts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2002 3:38 PM
To: Scott
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Directory removal


On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 03:31:34PM +1000, Scott wrote:
 Tried, but there is over 3000 files in there

Maybe try:

  rm -i *[C*

or even:

  rm -i `echo -e \003[C\003`

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Re: [SLUG] Vim help-file tags not found

2002-08-14 Thread Andrew Bennetts

On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 03:42:49PM +1000, Nick Croft wrote:
  
  But if I try to jump to another tag using Ctrl-] I get an error message (E344
  iirc - it's at home) about 'no tag file found' -- and yet the tag file is there
  in the doc directory.
 
 And if i just invoke the help-files from the F1 key, I get:
 
 E433: No tags file
 E426: tag not found: help.txt
  
 No Vim experts here?

I'm not a Vim expert, but I guess that maybe you have $VIM or
$VIMRUNTIME or something like that still set and pointing to the wrong
place (/usr/local ?)... maybe see if they are set, unset them, and try
it that way?

Otherwise I've got no idea :(

-Andrew.

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Re: [SLUG] Directory removal

2002-08-14 Thread Stephen SLI27 Lindsay


I'm sure there would be a more intelligent way but would it be practical to
move all the other directories/files within that directory to a temporary
location, wipe out the parent directory (rm -r parent, which I assume
would kill off the mystery directory as well), recreate the parent, then
copy the other directories back?

Not very elegant but might do the the trick?

Cheers.Steve.



From:  Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]@slug.org.au on 15/08/2002
   15:19

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cc:
Subject:[SLUG] Directory removal


Hi all,
A directory has been created of which we can't remove it. The reason
being is we can't see it!
I have found out how to list it in octal, which is: \033[C\033
But, how do I delete it?

Cheers,

Scott

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RE: [SLUG] Vim help-file tags not found

2002-08-14 Thread Visser, Martin (Sydney)

What does :help do. If that doesn't bring up the help text either, I
suspect you have a path/ environment issue. BTW Most vim experts
probably never see such errors, I certainly haven't and have been using
vi / vim for over 10 years.

Dump out :set and :version that might help us



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From: Nick Croft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2002 3:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Vim help-file tags not found


 
 But if I try to jump to another tag using Ctrl-] I get an error 
 message (E344 iirc - it's at home) about 'no tag file found' -- and 
 yet the tag file is there in the doc directory.

And if i just invoke the help-files from the F1 key, I get:

  E433: No tags file
  E426: tag not found: help.txt
 
No Vim experts here?

Nick
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