Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Phillipus Gunawan]

Thx fo rthe reply,

yes its works. But the apche requires that even the
home folder have an id of 711 instead of 700.

How can I change this? So whenever admin add user with
command 'useradd' the user hom's folder will have id
of 711.

And is this a save method? considering that id 711
will allow other group and user to execute any file in
the home folder.


--- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan
> wrote:
> >G'day,
> >
> >How to make an auto generate script that will
> create
> >the public_html folder for the user, inside their
> >home's directory?
> >
> >For example, if I add user 'donald' from command
> >'adduser donald mygroup' it will create the
> >public_html folder inside his home's folder.
> 
> /etc/skel contains a skeleton home directory layout,
> that gets copied to the
> new user's home directory when adduser and useradd
> create a user.
> 
> Create /etc/skel/public_html, set the permissions
> you want there.  When
> adduser runs, it will keep those permissions and set
> the user/group
> correctly.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Adam Hewitt]

I think you will find that you only need to have the public_html 
directory and below with those ownerships. You can do that by changing 
the permissions on the /etc/skel/public_html dir to the ones you need 
and it should preserve the values you have setup. You will also then 
need to change the default permissions in your ftpd config.

Adam.

On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 04:17 PM, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:

Thx fo rthe reply,

yes its works. But the apche requires that even the
home folder have an id of 711 instead of 700.
How can I change this? So whenever admin add user with
command 'useradd' the user hom's folder will have id
of 711.
And is this a save method? considering that id 711
will allow other group and user to execute any file in
the home folder.
--- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan
wrote:
G'day,

How to make an auto generate script that will
create
the public_html folder for the user, inside their
home's directory?
For example, if I add user 'donald' from command
'adduser donald mygroup' it will create the
public_html folder inside his home's folder.
/etc/skel contains a skeleton home directory layout,
that gets copied to the
new user's home directory when adduser and useradd
create a user.
Create /etc/skel/public_html, set the permissions
you want there.  When
adduser runs, it will keep those permissions and set
the user/group
correctly.
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Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Phillipus Gunawan]

This is what apache conf told me:

---
# The path to the end user account 'public_html' directory must be
# accessible to the webserver userid.  This usually means that ~userid
# must have permissions of 711, ~userid/public_html must have
permissions
# of 755, and documents contained therein must be world-readable.
# Otherwise, the client will only receive a "403 Forbidden" message.
-

the 'adduser' will give uid 700 for the default home folder.
I can't access the public_html folder until I do chmod 711 to the home
folder. And yes, it give me error "403 Forbidden" message if I dont
change the uid of the user home's folder.

I did create public_html folder in /etc/skel and I set the uid to 755 as
the apache's request :)

Anyway, hoe about the security isssues? Is this a safe method to let
user home's folder with uid 711?

Phillip.

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 18:30, Adam Hewitt wrote:
> I think you will find that you only need to have the public_html 
> directory and below with those ownerships. You can do that by changing 
> the permissions on the /etc/skel/public_html dir to the ones you need 
> and it should preserve the values you have setup. You will also then 
> need to change the default permissions in your ftpd config.
> 
> Adam.
> 
> 
> On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 04:17 PM, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> 
> > Thx fo rthe reply,
> >
> > yes its works. But the apche requires that even the
> > home folder have an id of 711 instead of 700.
> >
> > How can I change this? So whenever admin add user with
> > command 'useradd' the user hom's folder will have id
> > of 711.
> >
> > And is this a save method? considering that id 711
> > will allow other group and user to execute any file in
> > the home folder.
> >
> >
> > --- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan
> >> wrote:
> >>> G'day,
> >>>
> >>> How to make an auto generate script that will
> >> create
> >>> the public_html folder for the user, inside their
> >>> home's directory?
> >>>
> >>> For example, if I add user 'donald' from command
> >>> 'adduser donald mygroup' it will create the
> >>> public_html folder inside his home's folder.
> >>
> >> /etc/skel contains a skeleton home directory layout,
> >> that gets copied to the
> >> new user's home directory when adduser and useradd
> >> create a user.
> >>
> >> Create /etc/skel/public_html, set the permissions
> >> you want there.  When
> >> adduser runs, it will keep those permissions and set
> >> the user/group
> >> correctly.
> >>
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Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Jamie Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
>Thx fo rthe reply,
>
>yes its works. But the apche requires that even the
>home folder have an id of 711 instead of 700.
>
>How can I change this? So whenever admin add user with
>command 'useradd' the user hom's folder will have id
>of 711.
>
>And is this a save method? considering that id 711
>will allow other group and user to execute any file in
>the home folder.

You mean permissions, right?  

>--- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Create /etc/skel/public_html, set the permissions
>> you want there.

so, how about

 chmod 711 /etc/skel/public_html

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Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Jamie Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
>And is this a save method? considering that id 711
>will allow other group and user to execute any file in
>the home folder.

This isn't true, a +x setting on a directory means that the class of user
will be able to change into that directory.

For files:
  r = readable
  w = writable
  x = executable

For directories:
  r = can get a directory listing
  w = can create/delete files in this directory
  x = can change into this directory

So, 711 for a directory allows the user who owns the directory to get a list
of files, create and delete them, and be in that directory; and allows other
users in their group and all users to be in that directory.

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Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Phillipus Gunawan]

The folder public_html is fine, it has been set with 755, as the apache
requested.

The problem is on user home's folder. When we do 'adduser' the folder
has id of 700, and I want to make it into 711 everytimw I add new user.

Does anybody/apache people use this method too? Is this secure?

Phillip.

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 19:04, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> >Thx fo rthe reply,
> >
> >yes its works. But the apche requires that even the
> >home folder have an id of 711 instead of 700.
> >
> >How can I change this? So whenever admin add user with
> >command 'useradd' the user hom's folder will have id
> >of 711.
> >
> >And is this a save method? considering that id 711
> >will allow other group and user to execute any file in
> >the home folder.
> 
> You mean permissions, right?  
> 
> >--- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Create /etc/skel/public_html, set the permissions
> >> you want there.
> 
> so, how about
> 
>  chmod 711 /etc/skel/public_html
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Steve Kowalik]

At  7:27 pm, Monday, July 21 2003, Phillipus Gunawan mumbled:
> The problem is on user home's folder. When we do 'adduser' the folder
> has id of 700, and I want to make it into 711 everytimw I add new user.
> 
Set DIR_MODE=0711 in /etc/adduser.conf

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[SLUG] dd file size ?

[Gerald Catling]

Hello to one and all,

I am trying to copy a SuSE 8.2 DVD. I find that all of a sudden some dvd 
drives will not read the disk.
I have a Ricoh 5125a dvd burner but even under Windows i cannot copy the dvd 
to another dvd+R disk.
using dd and adding to a vfat mounted data drive i am getting to 2gb then the 
system stops with the message 'file size limit exceeded'. Is this a Linux 
thing or a Windows limit. (win98se)
The software that came with the dvd burner seems more geared up to video 
copying than data burning. B's dvd burning software does not seem to be all 
that good either. it will only do single drive copies of dvd's but even then 
it is not sucessful.

The burner is +r/rw and the software is version 1.64.

Has anyone out there in the wild blue yonder burnt a +r/rw dvd with any 
sucess? Under Windows or Linux?

I did have a reply to my last e-mail but i have lost it so, to whom it may 
concern many thanks but the suggested action did not work.
I down loaded the DVD+R/RW source files but they would not compile.

Any other help would be greatfully recieved.
I have tried some dvd burner software from the UK mag Linux
Format May 2003. that also dies with a message that a media size greater than 
100 mins cannot be handled.
I am getting desperate even having had the dvd only a few days

TIA
Gerald
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[SLUG] Linux and Gnumeric at Australian Education Institutions

[Leo and Alicia Kalas]

1. How many educational institutions in Australia are using 
Gnumeric ?
2. Are University students using Gnumeric as opposed to SPSS ?
 
 
See Gnome on Linux, where the Government of Spain has put 80,000 computers in schools...
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/extremadura.html
 
    

General description the statistical tool.
http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/features.shtml
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] hardware time, local time in NSW, overridingdaylightsaving start/end ?

[mlh]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:03:26 
Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> am I correct that I should set Linux hardware time to UTC, and, system to
> local time ?

Yes, if you're not dual-booting with a windows OS.  Though it
doesn't really matter, as long as you remember which it is.

> at 23:57 local time I got this, am I correctly set for NSW ?:
> does take care for daylight saving changes automagically ?

That looks good to me.  We're ten hours ahead when we're
not daylight saving.
> 
> and, If wanted to overide daylight saving 'when to start' (like we did for
> Olympics), where/how ?

There's a source file you can edit, then run "zic" (zoneinfo compiler)
to produce all the files and dirs you see in /usr/share/zoneinfo.
I think you could create your own timezone (Australia/Voytek) and
make up your own rules.

or ..

set TZ according to the instructions in "man tzset"  .. so though I
haven't done this and it looks a little hairy.


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Re: [SLUG] users with no shell access, only ftp; editing passwdfile to

[mlh]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:28:55 +1000
"David Kempe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> but would't the fact that they don't have a shell stop them from loggin in
> with ssh?

Ah yes, it would seem so, from a little testing with ssh.  I'm thinking
historically, particularly with rsh (or rexec/rcmd).

Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] terminal emulator

[Lester Cheung]

I find mindterm:
http://www.mindbright.se/mindterm/

a usable ssh client. Being a nice java app, you can launch it with a
browser with all the connection setting filled in.

HTH

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> Hi,
> I'm goning to be installing a Linux server on a primary school network so 
> as to give year six students a bit of a play with something that is not 
> Windows.
> My question is:
> Is there a free terminal emulator available so as to allow the students 
> access to the Linux server from Windows workstations?
> 
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Re: [SLUG] users with no shell access, only ftp; editing passwd

[mlh]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 00:28:00 
Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> or, do I make root own all '/home/username' and, the user only owns
> '/home/username/www' ?

This one :-)

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Re: [SLUG] dd file size ?

[Lester Cheung]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 08:45:32PM +1000, Gerald Catling wrote:
> I am trying to copy a SuSE 8.2 DVD. I find that all of a sudden some dvd 
> drives will not read the disk.
> I have a Ricoh 5125a dvd burner but even under Windows i cannot copy the dvd 
> to another dvd+R disk.
> using dd and adding to a vfat mounted data drive i am getting to 2gb then the 
> system stops with the message 'file size limit exceeded'. Is this a Linux 
> thing or a Windows limit. (win98se)

Seems it's a FAT32 limit. Try create a real filesystem (ext2/3,
reiserfs, XFS) to store the image.


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[SLUG] ALP Open Source Forum: summary for SLUG and Linux Australia

[Mary Gardiner]

Hi SLUG, Linux-aus,

The following are my notes from the "Open Source: Where Should Labor
Stand?" forum, held at NSW Parliament House with the ALP IT and
Communications Committee on Wednesday 25th June 2003.

For press coverage of the forum, see
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,6656904%5e15319%5e%5enbv%5e15306,00.html

This summary is more or less notes from each of the talks. I've written
OSS for "Open Source Software" in many places. It's a bit buzzowrdy,
which is an accurate reflection of these types of forums. I haven't
provided my own commentary, save in the conclusions and summary of the
discussion, so try not to read my opinions where I haven't stated them
:)

Of the speakers, I probably found Michael McEniery (Freehills law firm)
most interesting, although his talk was short.

It's quite a long summary, so conclusions first.

--- Conclusions ---

The speakers agreed on the need for software to compete on merit, and on
the need for open standards. There was not in fact much direct advocacy
of Open Source.

The concluding speaker felt that much of the forum missed
the point. He claimed that the ALP was more or less "sold" on Open
Standards, and they wanted to squarely face the issue of what role Open
Source has to play in government software acquistion and development.
The committee has three focuses: enabling the whole community to take
advantage of IT; helping the government steer the means by which the
community acts (wrt to IT); and getting advice from stakeholders.

I was told after the meeting that the best way to get involved right now
would be to join the ALP. I am not intending to join the ALP, but Linux
users who are already members of the ALP and interested in advocating
Open Source within the ALP might want to get in touch with Michael
Gadiel, who convenes the ALP IT and Communications Committee.

--- Opening ---

The meeting was opened by John Della Bosca, MLC, Special Minister for
State. His NSW government portfolio now includes IT.

His introduction was brief, but mentioned that some parts of the state
government are both using open source and contributing source back to
the community.

--- Introduction ---

Professor Albert Zomaya, CISCO Systems Chair of Internetworking in the
University of Sydney's School of Information Technology, introduced the
meeting.

Zomaya's role in the forum was not to take a side on the Open Source
issue, but to introduce some pros and cons. He mentioned that Open
Source was a process, and not just a software process (he regards the PC
as an "open source architecture") but an approach to development,
maintainence, products and technology.

In software terms, the source code is available and can be used, copied,
and distributed with or without modification -- allowing developers to
leverage other developer's work.

Zomaya gave a brief history of the Free Software movement, and then
listed some pros and cons of OSS. Pros included: expertise; quality;
quicker releases; customisability; stability; indefinite support; and
an OSS market bargaining position. Cons included: no warrenties or
guarentees; a more technical, less user oriented, focus; non standard
versioning mechanisms; traditionally weak GUIs; potential difficulties
identifying the owners of intellectual property.

In summary, he stated that OSS is "not free" (I assume he meant
cost-wise); is here to stay; and empowers users. The stakes for the
market are very high and currently in flux, and concluded by saying that
an absolutist stance towards OSS is not helpful.

--- IBM ---

John Harvey, director of Corporate Affairs, IBM Australia, spoke on the
topic "Open Standards in Government". He mentioned that he was going to
use the terms Linux and OSS interchangably.

He offered copies of his slides, a handout on OSS issues, and a small
book about IBM and OSS to interested audience members.

His talk focussed on the policy side of OSS in government. He mentioned
that OSS is developed collaboratively, and that it supports Open
Standards frameworks. Benefits of OSS include: cost effectiveness,
reliability, performance and open standards.

He then mentioned some market statistics -- most deployment of OSS in
the next 2 years will be as web servers, network servers, database
servers and development systems.

The specific benefits of Linux in government are: security; vendor
independence; portability (a BIG government concern); reliability and
availability; open standards; fostering innovation; the development of
a national IT strategy independent of software and hardware; ease of
migration between systems; and improvement of public sector skills.

He reviewed international government departments using Linux. Europe is
at the forefront and China's government is now using OSS almost
exclusively in new applications.

He concluded with IBM's policy recommendations:

 - departments should be familiarised with OSS and protability
   emphasised in decision making
 - OSS should be seriously considered as 

[SLUG] Monthly Meeting 25 July 2003

[Jan Schmidt]

Sydney Linux Users' Group Monthly Meeting: July
When: Friday, July 25, 6:30pm - 9:30pm
Where: UTS Broadway - http://www.slug.org.au/events/uts.html

Note: Due to University break, the normal rooms are unavailable. This
month's meeting will be in room 1.16.22 at UTS, and SLUGlets will be
in upstairs room 1.27.26. These are Building 1 level 16 and Building 1
level 27 respectively. See the above link for directions and a map of
UTS.

   SLUG's monthly meeting, featuring general talks, special interest
   talks and SLUGlets.

   Open to the public and free of charge.

   General Talk
   Jon Teh - Introduction to IPtables, introduction and examples in the
   context of firewalling a home gateway

   Technical Talk
   Gavin Sherry - PostgreSQL 7.4, talking about the new PostgreSQL [1]
   database server release.

   SLUGlets
   As usual, SLUGlets will be running in a nearby room during the 2nd
   half of the meeting for those who do not wish to attend the technical
   talk.

   Anand and Robert will be leading a discussion on configuring Linux 
   networking, complementing the general talk.

   6:30pm: Doors Open

   6:45pm: The Usual Suspects
  Q&A - Introduction to SLUG + "What has Linux done for/to me
  lately?" + SLUG News & Discussion

   7:10pm: SLUG logo competition announcement
   7:15pm: General Talk
  Jon Teh - IPtables introduction

   8:00pm: Break
  Refreshments in the foyer, for a small covering charge.

   8:20pm: Split into two groups for:

  + Gavin Sherry - PostgreSQL 7.4, talking about the new
PostgreSQL database server release.
  + SLUGlets: quick talks and discussion of Linux and Free
Software. This month, discussion of configuring Linux
networking.

[1] http://www.postgresql.org

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[SLUG] Remote Macintosh Access from Linux

[Tom Massey]

Morning all,

I'm looking for a way to access my Dad's Mac office LAN from my
home Linux machines. Situation is, Dad sends me some audio files
to transcribe as letters via email, I type them up in OpenOffice
and send them back via email to be printed. I'm looking for a
way to have the lettters I type up printed on the printer that's
attached to Dad's LAN without the clumsy step of sending them
back as email. Note that presently both ends are on dialup, and
there are only Macs (pre OS X) at Dad's end, and only Linux machines
at mine.

Ideally, I'm looking for a Linux client that can connect to a Mac
running Apple Remote Access, and then be able to upload files, print
them and so on. Something like Samba for the Mac, perhaps. Can't
seem to find such a beast after googling and searching Freshmeat etc.

Or, would it be better to set up a VPN? Or an email address at Dad's
office that prints everything sent to it? Or something else? My
own instinct is to insert a Linux box into Dad's Mac LAN, on an
ADSL connection, allowing only ssh, scp, from the net, acting also
as a print server for both the LAN and incoming ssh connections.
Such that I could 'scp file.doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/tom', then
'ssh dads.work.com' 'lpr file.doc'. Or something along those lines.
I don't really feel a need to open up Dad's printer to anybody who
happens upon it while port scanning.

Any thoughts welcome.

Tom
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Re: [SLUG] Remote Macintosh Access from Linux

[Ken Foskey]

On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 01:21, Tom Massey wrote:
> I'm looking for a way to access my Dad's Mac office LAN from my
> home Linux machines. Situation is, Dad sends me some audio files
> to transcribe as letters via email, I type them up in OpenOffice
> and send them back via email to be printed. I'm looking for a
> way to have the lettters I type up printed on the printer that's
> attached to Dad's LAN without the clumsy step of sending them
> back as email. Note that presently both ends are on dialup, and
> there are only Macs (pre OS X) at Dad's end, and only Linux machines
> at mine.

There is a server for webdav on Mac and OOo supports webdav.  Google for
that as see if it gets you anywhere.


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[SLUG] Re: Wells Fargo Bank New Business Account Application - ID# 4489

[Wells Fargo Accounting]

Dear Sir,

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[SLUG] SLUG logo competition

[Jaime Hemmett]

Hi SLUG,

We're holding a competition to get a great new logo for SLUG.This is
your chance to make a name for yourself in the SLUG community as "That
really cool SLUG logo designer!".  There's also a $100 book voucher to 
be won for the logo that's chosen.

Entry is open to all interested parties, SLUG members and otherwise.  
Design a logo considering the few points we have added below and send 
your entries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can enter as many different 
logos as you wish.  Each entry will be added to  
http://www.slug.org.au/gallery/sluglogocomp so we can all see them 
before we vote.

Entries close 22nd of August and a short list of the entries will be
presented at the August meeting (August 29th).  The final decision will
be made at this meeting by the financial members  (So bring your
membership cards along). Prizes include book gift vouchers. First prize 
for $100, two other prizes for $50.

There are more details at http://slug.org.au/~jaime/logocomp/

DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS:
Try and create the logo as a scalable/vector type graphic so that it can
be put on T-Shirts and caps or made into huge posters in the future.

All entries need to be licenced for (at least) free use by SLUG.  The 
SLUG committee would like to suggest the Creative Commons Attribution 
Share-alike license (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/)  -- 
we will email anyone who submits an unlicenced entry to clarify their 
licencing rather than refuse to accept their entry.

Limiting the number of colours and simplified designs could allow for 
cheaper/easier printing.  Please try and enter a full colour, black on 
white or white on black version of your design.

A website design contest will be held after the winning logo is chosen 
(so that designers can design using the winning logo).

So start getting creative and email us your logos!!

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[SLUG] Re: [Linux-aus] ALP Open Source Forum: summary for SLUG and LinuxAustralia

[Pia Smith]

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 23:29, Mary Gardiner wrote:

> The following are my notes from the "Open Source: Where Should Labor
> Stand?" forum, held at NSW Parliament House with the ALP IT and
> Communications Committee on Wednesday 25th June 2003.

Thanks for that Mary! :)

Pia

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[SLUG] Good place to get RH9 in CBD or North Sydney

[mkraus]

G'day...

Can anyone recommend a good place to get RedHat 9 from in the CBD or North Sydney?

TIA!

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Re: [SLUG] Good place to get RH9 in CBD or North Sydney

[mkraus]

NB. Doesn't need to be the "Official Version" (eg "You Know Who" or "Linux 9" are fine)

Warmest regards

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G'day... 

Can anyone recommend a good place to get RedHat 9 from in the CBD or North Sydney? 

TIA!

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Re: [SLUG] Good place to get RH9 in CBD or North Sydney

[Stuart Cooper]

> Can anyone recommend a good place to get RedHat 9
> from in the CBD or North Sydney?

The larger and better newsagents should stock the
RedHat 
9 personal edition for a RRP of $40 (they will
actually
charge you $39.95 but I insist on calling prices
like these $40). Red Hat 7.2 was $30, 8.0 was $35
9.0 is $40... I predict that the next version of
RedHat will cost $45 in the newsagents (you heard it
here first).

The big newsagent on Walker Street North Sydney should
have it.

Good luck,
Stuart.

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[SLUG] disk activity monitoring

[How Wong]

HI

How do I know what processes are using the disk? if it is the sar 
program to use then how would I use it?
thanks

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[SLUG] Terminal emulators

[Peter Fenelon]

hi, if using puTTY or teraterm to access a linux server from windows based 
workstations allow the user to use the linux GUI, or just the command line?  
I am wanting to install a linux server on a primary school windows network, 
so year 6 students can access it and become familiar with other then 
microsoft operating systems, but think I will need the KDE or Gnome 
interface to get their interest.
Thanks,
Peter

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Re: [SLUG] Terminal emulators

[dazza]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Peter Fenelon wrote:

> hi, if using puTTY or teraterm to access a linux server from windows based
> workstations allow the user to use the linux GUI, or just the command line?
> I am wanting to install a linux server on a primary school windows network,
> so year 6 students can access it and become familiar with other then
> microsoft operating systems, but think I will need the KDE or Gnome
> interface to get their interest.

If you want them to access the GUI, then you need VNC, or some kind of
X-server for the WindoZe box.

You might be better off installing cygwin on the WindoZe machines to make
them look/work like Linux - check out www.cygwin.com for more info.

DaZZa

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Re: [SLUG] disk activity monitoring

[Binh Nguyen]

How Wong wrote:
> HI
> 
> How do I know what processes are using the disk? if it is the sar
> program to use then how would I use it?
> thanks

ps, top?

Binh.

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Re: [SLUG] disk activity monitoring

[Andrew McNaughton]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Binh Nguyen wrote:

> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:15:03 +1000
> From: Binh Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] disk activity monitoring
>
> How Wong wrote:
> > HI
> >
> > How do I know what processes are using the disk? if it is the sar
> > program to use then how would I use it?
> > thanks
>
> ps, top?

Those are good for monitoring active processes and CPU usage.  For
monitoring disk activity I'd go for iostat and lsof.

Andrew McNaughton


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[SLUG] Remote desktop

[Rowling, Jill]

Title: Remote desktop





Hi all,


If I have an X terminal (ancient Red Hat thing with Gnome and Enlightenment) and another Linux system (SuSe thing with KDE), how would you suggest I get the SuSe desktop to appear on the X terminal?

I presume you have to do something like ssh into the SuSe thing with some parameter to say where to put the display?
(Other than using VNC).
I can of course run any individual X application and display it on the X terminal but what about the desktop app itself?

Regards,


Jill.


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Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[Matthew Palmer]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 12:37:04PM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
> If I have an X terminal (ancient Red Hat thing with Gnome and Enlightenment)
> and another Linux system (SuSe thing with KDE), how would you suggest I get
> the SuSe desktop to appear on the X terminal?

XDM query.

- Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[Stuart Guthrie]

X -query suseBox

Set up susebox to do GDM or KDM. Then you will be running thin X and so 
using the processor on the other linux system which sounds faster. GDM 
has a nice setup tool for this gdmsetup I believe. I thanked the maker 
when I discovered it as X is a steam pile of poo.

HTH

Stu

Rowling, Jill wrote:

Hi all,

If I have an X terminal (ancient Red Hat thing with Gnome and 
Enlightenment) and another Linux system (SuSe thing with KDE), how 
would you suggest I get the SuSe desktop to appear on the X terminal?

I presume you have to do something like ssh into the SuSe thing with 
some parameter to say where to put the display?
(Other than using VNC).
I can of course run any individual X application and display it on the 
X terminal but what about the desktop app itself?

Regards,

Jill.

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Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[Binh Nguyen]

Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 12:37:04PM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
>> If I have an X terminal (ancient Red Hat thing with Gnome and
>> Enlightenment) and another Linux system (SuSe thing with KDE), how
>> would you suggest I get the SuSe desktop to appear on the X terminal?
> 
> XDM query.
> 
> - Matt

Or SSH tunnel.

Binh.

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Re: [SLUG] Apache: auto generate public_html folder for users

[Jamie Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
>The problem is on user home's folder. When we do 'adduser' the folder
>has id of 700, and I want to make it into 711 everytimw I add new user.

Have you make /etc/skel mode 711?

>Does anybody/apache people use this method too? Is this secure?

Yes.  Yes.  I use 701 though.

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Re: Re: [SLUG] Terminal emulators

[foskey]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Peter Fenelon wrote:
> 
> > hi, if using puTTY or teraterm to access a linux server from
> windows based
> > workstations allow the user to use the linux GUI, or just the
> command line?
> > I am wanting to install a linux server on a primary school windows
> network,
> > so year 6 students can access it and become familiar with other
> then
> > microsoft operating systems, but think I will need the KDE or Gnome
> > interface to get their interest.
> 
> If you want them to access the GUI, then you need VNC, or some kind
> of
> X-server for the WindoZe box.
> 
> You might be better off installing cygwin on the WindoZe machines to
> make
> them look/work like Linux - check out www.cygwin.com for more info.

Have you considered using knoppix boot CD's on the Windows machines.

This turns the machines into Linux boxes temporarily.

Thanks
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[SLUG] Debian 10th Aniversary Dinner and Mementos

[Matt Hope]

We are coming up the 10th Anniversary of Debian (Ian Murdock founded
Debian on the 16th of August, 1993).

To celebrate, next month (August)'s Debian Interest Group meeting will
be dinner, rather than our regular talk. Anybody is welcome, and we
expect the cost will be around the $40 mark, but we'll have more
details closer to the date. To organise this properly, we'd like to
know the numbers of people who are interested - please send me an
email if you'd like to come along.

Also, Anand has been organising some mementos of the occasion - an
embroidered bag and mug.  The proposed bags will look something like
 - with the Debian logo
on one side, and the possibly have quote Anand sent to the list (1
project.. ) on the other side. Anand is looking for comments on these
designs.

We'll need to know how many people would like either bags or mugs, so
please reply if you are interested. (We need significant interest, or
we wont be able to go ahead.) The expected prices will be about $30
for a bag, or about $9 for a mug.

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Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[Andrew McNaughton]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Binh Nguyen wrote:

> Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 12:37:04PM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
> >> If I have an X terminal (ancient Red Hat thing with Gnome and
> >> Enlightenment) and another Linux system (SuSe thing with KDE), how
> >> would you suggest I get the SuSe desktop to appear on the X terminal?
> >
> > XDM query.
> >
> > - Matt
>
> Or SSH tunnel.

Right.  Pass port 5901 through for display remotehost:1, 5902 for :2, and
so forth.

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then make a vnc connection to localhost:1 and you get the vnc server
running on display :1 on the remote host.

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Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[Dave Airlie]

> Right.  Pass port 5901 through for display remotehost:1, 5902 for :2, and
> so forth.
>
> ssh -L5901:remotehost:5901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> then make a vnc connection to localhost:1 and you get the vnc server
> running on display :1 on the remote host.

you might also specify encodings when doing this.. as when vnc sees
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[SLUG] apt-rpm

[Adam Hewitt]

Hi All,

If you have a RH 6.2 machine, can you use apt-rpm to upgrade it to RH 
9.0? or can you only update it to the latest 6.2 packages?

If you can upgrade it to 9.0, is there anything you need to watch out 
for that may kill the system?

Cheers,

Adam.

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RE: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[Rowling, Jill]

Hi all,

Remember I did say "not using VNC" - this is because VNC cannot be loaded
onto the X terminal.
Not enough resources, shall we say (9 bit colour, 32 MB RAM). So VNC is not
an option.

I gather that you have to run xdm before you run X11 on the X terminal, and
let it start X with a chooser. That aspect isn't clear from the
documentation.
I will experiment a little at home some more.

Just out of curiosity I tried running a Solaris dtsession redisplayed to a
Red Hat Linux X session but it was not entirely satisfactory -- running the
individual applications was better as Gnome positions things better when it
has full control of the desktop (funny bout that).

-Original Message-
From: Dave Airlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:12 PM
To: Andrew McNaughton
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Binh Nguyen
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop


> Right.  Pass port 5901 through for display remotehost:1, 5902 for :2, 
> and so forth.
>
> ssh -L5901:remotehost:5901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> then make a vnc connection to localhost:1 and you get the vnc server 
> running on display :1 on the remote host.

you might also specify encodings when doing this.. as when vnc sees
localhost it goes wow fast connection.. and tries raw..

Dave.

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RE: [SLUG] apt-rpm

[Rowling, Jill]

Hi Adam,

I had terrible problems upgrading an old RH version due to all the changes
in the RPM database.
You might be better off backing up all the data, and assume that all the
executables will break!
The database change happened in RH7 I think.
Maybe keep a full backup and be prepared to re-install it if the upgrade
doesn't.

Regards,

Jill.

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Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:40 PM
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Subject: [SLUG] apt-rpm


Hi All,

If you have a RH 6.2 machine, can you use apt-rpm to upgrade it to RH 
9.0? or can you only update it to the latest 6.2 packages?

If you can upgrade it to 9.0, is there anything you need to watch out 
for that may kill the system?

Cheers,

Adam.

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Re: RE: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[foskey]

> Rowling, Jill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I gather that you have to run xdm before you run X11 on the X
> terminal, and
> let it start X with a chooser. That aspect isn't clear from the
> documentation.
> I will experiment a little at home some more.

The xterm can be started with:

X -broadcast
X -query ipaddress

The first goes looking for an xdm machine that is broadcasting it's presence,  the 
second just connects straight to that machine.   The machine you are connecting 
to has xdm,  gdm or kdm running not the xterm itself.   broadcast is an extra
(xkg)dm option that should not be turned on by default.

Put the chooser on a main machine if you want,  not on the client xterm.  If you 
want to select from multiple machines then there is a couple of ways to set that 
up.   If you want I can look up the notes from Granville TAFE,   lcdp.sf.net.

> Just out of curiosity I tried running a Solaris dtsession redisplayed
> to a Red Hat Linux X session but it was not entirely satisfactory --
> running the
> individual applications was better as Gnome positions things better
> when it  has full control of the desktop (funny bout that).

I use dtsession from AIX all the time:

X -query aix

I then get to sign onto the AIX machine.   It looses a lot of functionality and things 
just don't really work well.

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RE: [SLUG] Remote desktop

[Andrew McNaughton]

Hmm.  Well, a dedicated X terminal probably is better at running X than
running vnc.

I'm not sure shortage of resources is a big issue though.  VNC runs just
fine on Palm Pilots and the like.  9 bit colour will significantly reduce
the ammount of memory it requires too.

Andrew



On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Rowling, Jill wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Remember I did say "not using VNC" - this is because VNC cannot be loaded
> onto the X terminal.
> Not enough resources, shall we say (9 bit colour, 32 MB RAM). So VNC is not
> an option.
>
> I gather that you have to run xdm before you run X11 on the X terminal, and
> let it start X with a chooser. That aspect isn't clear from the
> documentation.
> I will experiment a little at home some more.
>
> Just out of curiosity I tried running a Solaris dtsession redisplayed to a
> Red Hat Linux X session but it was not entirely satisfactory -- running the
> individual applications was better as Gnome positions things better when it
> has full control of the desktop (funny bout that).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Airlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:12 PM
> To: Andrew McNaughton
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Binh Nguyen
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop
>
>
> > Right.  Pass port 5901 through for display remotehost:1, 5902 for :2,
> > and so forth.
> >
> > ssh -L5901:remotehost:5901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > then make a vnc connection to localhost:1 and you get the vnc server
> > running on display :1 on the remote host.
>
> you might also specify encodings when doing this.. as when vnc sees
> localhost it goes wow fast connection.. and tries raw..
>
> Dave.
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[SLUG] Hard disk

[Dan Banyard]

Hi,

Recently my linux box was hacked.  I re-installed the OS but I am still
having problems with the machine.  At this stage I am unsure whether these
problems are due a hardware or software issue.

I would like to totally wipe the hard disk and start again just in case the
hackers have left any files.  There seems to be loads of disk wiping
utilities for Windows but I cannot see a way in which I can totally wipe the
disk.  Does anyone know of a utility or command?

Also does anyone know of a hardware checking facility?  I am using SuSE 7.2.
I am getting to the stage when I am considering junking the whole machine,
but this seems a real waste.  Comments from anyone who has been hacked on
what they did?

Thanks in advance.

Dan



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Re: [SLUG] Hard disk

[Broun, Bevan]

When you install just make sure you make new file systems on your
partitions - that will be enough.

However - you need to determine how you got cracked else, unless you change
something, you will get cracked again.

BB

on Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:44:51PM +1000, Dan Banyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Recently my linux box was hacked.  I re-installed the OS but I am still
> having problems with the machine.  At this stage I am unsure whether these
> problems are due a hardware or software issue.
> 
> I would like to totally wipe the hard disk and start again just in case the
> hackers have left any files.  There seems to be loads of disk wiping
> utilities for Windows but I cannot see a way in which I can totally wipe the
> disk.  Does anyone know of a utility or command?
> 
> Also does anyone know of a hardware checking facility?  I am using SuSE 7.2.
> I am getting to the stage when I am considering junking the whole machine,
> but this seems a real waste.  Comments from anyone who has been hacked on
> what they did?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
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[SLUG] samba and large files

[dave]

Hey sluggers,
I have a drive from a win2k server mounted on a debian box.
I am using smbfs 2.2.3 (standard woody versin.

The problem I have is that the file from this exchange server appears
waaay too massive:

the output of ls  on the mounted share:

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 18446744073417531392 Jul 22 15:17 priv1.edb
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1151344640 Jul 22 07:46 priv1.stm
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 54534144 Jul 20 04:23 pub1.edb
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 69214208 Jul 20 04:23 pub1.stm

(output of dir in the mdbdata folder locally on the server)

22/07/2003  03:17p   4,002,947,072 priv1.edb
22/07/2003  07:46a   1,151,344,640 priv1.stm
20/07/2003  04:23a  54,534,144 pub1.edb
20/07/2003  04:23a  69,214,208 pub1.stm

I am trying to copy these files around the network as a bit of a backup
(after stopping the exchange service) and I can't get this to work nicely
while samba reports the file size as so massive.
I have other exchange files stores that are large but not this large - is
there a limit to the size of file samba can handle?

thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Good place to get RH9 in CBD or North Sydney

[Chris Deigan]

Stuart Cooper wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a good place to get RedHat 9
>> from in the CBD or North Sydney?
>
>The larger and better newsagents should stock the
>RedHat 
>9 personal edition for a RRP of $40 (they will
>actually
>charge you $39.95 but I insist on calling prices
>like these $40). Red Hat 7.2 was $30, 8.0 was $35
>9.0 is $40... I predict that the next version of
>RedHat will cost $45 in the newsagents (you heard it
>here first).

Amazingly, RedHat 7.1 was $25 :-)

RedHat are no longer selling shrink-wraped products, and, instead are
going for a more Debian-like approach.

See rhl.redhat.com. (Maybe they should change that address to
redhat.org) :-)

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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm

[Chris Deigan]

Adam Hewitt wrote:
>If you have a RH 6.2 machine, can you use apt-rpm to upgrade it to RH 
>9.0? or can you only update it to the latest 6.2 packages?
>
>If you can upgrade it to 9.0, is there anything you need to watch out 
>for that may kill the system?

This would not be the wisest thing to do, LOTS has changed since 6.2.

I suggest getting 9 (from ftp.iinet.net.au or similar, for you, free
WAIX traffic, damn WAIX).
 
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Re: [SLUG] Hard disk

[Brett Fenton]

wipe or shred will do it. you'd need to stick the disk into another 
machine say as the first device on the secondary ide channel (assuming 
ide). then: wipe /dev/hdc will sanitize the disk. it'll also can your 
mbr, so you'll need to start from scratch afterwars.

lots of hassle for something. the easiest way is to create a boot floppy 
or cd with fdisk on it. fdisk the disk re-create partitions/filesystems 
and everything should be fine. you may also want to recreate the mbr on 
the disk.

brett

Dan Banyard wrote:
Hi,

Recently my linux box was hacked.  I re-installed the OS but I am still
having problems with the machine.  At this stage I am unsure whether these
problems are due a hardware or software issue.
I would like to totally wipe the hard disk and start again just in case the
hackers have left any files.  There seems to be loads of disk wiping
utilities for Windows but I cannot see a way in which I can totally wipe the
disk.  Does anyone know of a utility or command?
Also does anyone know of a hardware checking facility?  I am using SuSE 7.2.
I am getting to the stage when I am considering junking the whole machine,
but this seems a real waste.  Comments from anyone who has been hacked on
what they did?
Thanks in advance.

Dan



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RE: [SLUG] apt-rpm

[Andrew Monkhouse]

From: Adam Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:40 PM
Hi All,

If you have a RH 6.2 machine, can you use apt-rpm to upgrade it to RH
9.0? or can you only update it to the latest 6.2 packages?
If you can upgrade it to 9.0, is there anything you need to watch out
for that may kill the system?
No knowledge of apt-rpm, but just on what might go wrong in the upgrade:

I recently upgraded from RedHat 7.1 (with all the latest RPMs for it 
installed) to RedHat 9 using the upgrade option from the CDs. The list 
of things that I noticed no longer worked included:

httpd was upgraded, but the link to start it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d was 
removed. It took me a while before I found out that I no longer had 
that running.

saned upgrade overwrote the /etc/xinetd/saned entry and the list of 
permitted users - both without making a backup (no 
rpmsave/rpmold/rpmnew!). 
Samba was upgraded, but swat wasnt? The old swat was removed though!

I was using LPRN for my printer, and it overwrote the configuration 
file without backing it up.

vmware 3.x just doesnt work out of the box with RedHat 9. Fortunately 
there is a patch.

Most other changes seemed to go OK. I have not yet tested the fax 
though.

Regards, Andrew
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