Re: [SLUG] newbie: LDAP question on debian

2003-08-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 04:06:04PM +1000, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 09:29, Matthew Palmer wrote:
  On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 06:37:12AM +1000, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
   In my debian, I couldn't find 'ldap.conf' file in my debian box. Is this
   will have a big impact on my server?
  
  The config file for the openLDAP utilities is kept in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf on
  Debian systems.

 i also checked that folder and I still cant find ldap.conf, even I do
 'locate ldap.conf' If I create the file manually, will it have impact?

As long as the syntax is right, it'll be OK.  It should have been installed
by libldap2, though.

   After running the LDAP server with slapd.conf, I was hoping that I can
   export my local groups and user into LDAP. But after I run the server
   and query from it, it looks like that I only have 3 organisation
   structure (ou): Admin, People, Roaming.
   
   The ou(s) are made from schema that we imported inside slapd.conf, and I
   think I import the necessary schema file already, at least the most
   common ones.
  
  For doing user/group serving, you'll need core, cosine, and nis.
  
  The OUs you need but don't have will (I think) be created by PADL's
  excellent migration tools (debian package 'migrationtools').  Failing that,
  they're pretty simple to add manually from the OUs you already have.
 
 I did import those schemas, but still, I only have 3 ous (Admin, Poeple,
 Roaming) and it makes me wonder why only those 3 came out. How to fix

tap tap tap  Is this thing on?  As I said, the migration tools should take
care of making the necessary OUs if they aren't already there.  The OUs
created already are those needed by the default Debian slapd config.

 this? If I create other ous manually, how can I do that? And how about

ldapadd is your friend.  man is your best friend.

 the schemas that I've imported in slapd.conf?

What about them?  schema != DN.

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[SLUG] Gnuplot/Windowmaker weirdness

2003-08-17 Thread Laurie Savage
I haven't seen this before and it caused some grief before I tracked it down

Running gnuplot - terminal x11 - on some physics data gave me a vertical axis labelled 
by Month rather than number. Repeated with some simple maths functions with the same 
result.

This only happened in Windowmaker not Gnome. So I deleted xscreensaver  from wm's 
autostart file (the most recent change) and it was fixed. 

Any ideas, this one's weird.

Both recent versions on RH8

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[SLUG] Re: Grey Nomads

2003-08-17 Thread Declan Ingram
Where in the US did you see the accustic coupler? or did you do a Google 
www.connectglobally.com/telecoupler/tele_coupler.asp 

let me know if you are going to get it and I will write you up some advice 
about using them. 

NOTE: it will not work on all pay phones at 28.8k... at musgrave on cape 
york we were down to 2400b to get a connection. 

Webcafes are good but if you are in a remote area they are either not there 
or expensive. it depends on the ammont of time you are going to use it. 

the telecoupler gets my tick of approval. :) 

/dec 

Gerald Catling writes: 

On Saturday 16 August 2003 22:28, you wrote:
Gerald Catling wrote:
 Hi To any Grey Nomads out there,
 If there are any such ones, I would like to know how to keep in touch via
 e-mail when you are on the move or in the back of nowhere in particular.
 We are about to start out in a Winibago, and are not sure about e-mail
 matters And a lot more non linux computer matters to boot 

Unless you are really rich, which I guess you are since you can afford a
Winibago {:-), then you will probably want a free webmail address like
hotmail, (yahoo, etc), which you just access from internet cafes along
the way. 

If one of the kids/family has one of those 10 email addresses per
account offers, some of these also offer web mail. e.g. my Swiftel adsl
account offers 5 email addresses with webmail access. This might be
better than a hotmail account. 

Now, it you are rich, satellite phone connection back to a dial up ISP
is obviously the only way to go. {:-), but that would cost as much as
the winibago again.
To both, Terry and Declan
Thanks for the reply,
No we are not rich, selling house buying a Wini and do a lot of travelling.
When we are thinking of settling down again we shall be looking at settling 
down once more somewhere in Qld between Noosa and some 3-4 hrs north.
We are totally new to this method of living and look forward to the change in 
lifestyle.
It is just that it would be nice to keep in touch with freinds whilst roving. 
The satellite phone is out since it cost such a lot for 
connection+internet+download+phone+bits to enable connection to laptop.
The connection+internet+download woul constitute the buying a 2nd. Wini.
The phone companies know how to charge-that for sure.
Where in the US did you see the accustic coupler? or did you do a Google 
search?
Anyway please keep the info comming along, we will be getting the Wini mid 
Oct. and  starting out on Dec 1st this year. We have some time left to 
discuss the best methods of keeping in touch--so please do 

Gerald  Shirley 

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[SLUG] Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread Howard Lowndes
I need to configure a Linux box as a transparent data sniffer between an 
Internet connection router and the subnet hub/switch to which it is 
connected (see ASCII art below)

Before:

  } +-+
  }  ++ | |---
I'net }--| router |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
  }  ++ | |---
  } +-+
  A   B

After:

  } +-+
  }  ++ +-+ | |---
I'net }--| router |-| sniffer |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
  }  ++ +|+ | |---
  }  |  +-+
  A C|D   B
 E

The requirement is that interface A must continue to think that is is 
still talking to the same addresses at B and the interfaces at B must 
continue to think they are talking to the address at A.  IOW, interface D 
must mimic interface A and interface C must mimic interfaces B.  
Connection to the sniffer will be at interface E.

This to enable a transparent man-in-the-middle data sniff.  It's OK, it is
for a legitimate purpose :)

Does anyone have any pointers to this config.  I believe it was discussed 
on SLUG a few years back, but I can't think where to start looking.

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[SLUG] Re: [MURLUG]Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread Ross Wheeler

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 I need to configure a Linux box as a transparent data sniffer between an
 Internet connection router and the subnet hub/switch to which it is
 connected (see ASCII art below)

 Before:

   } +-+
   }  ++ | |---
 I'net }--| router |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
   }  ++ | |---
   } +-+
   A   B

 After:

   } +-+
   }  ++ +-+ | |---
 I'net }--| router |-| sniffer |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
   }  ++ +|+ | |---
   }  |  +-+
   A C|D   B
  E

 The requirement is that interface A must continue to think that is is
 still talking to the same addresses at B and the interfaces at B must
 continue to think they are talking to the address at A.  IOW, interface D
 must mimic interface A and interface C must mimic interfaces B.
 Connection to the sniffer will be at interface E.

 This to enable a transparent man-in-the-middle data sniff.  It's OK, it is
 for a legitimate purpose :)

 Does anyone have any pointers to this config.  I believe it was discussed
 on SLUG a few years back, but I can't think where to start looking.

Seriously, why not make a cable with the TX pair disconnected and plug a
single interface into the existing link and sniff it directly, or, if it
is a HUB, simply plug into the hub?

I understand your problem if you have a switch there, but the first
suggestion covers that.

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[SLUG] Re: Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread Declan Ingram
what about a little 4 port hub and you can either cut the TX pair or dont 
assign an IP to the interface as below: 

  } +-+
  }  ++ | |---
I'net }--| router |---|hub|-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
  }  ++ |   | |---
  } +---+   +-+
  A |sniffer|   B
+---+ 

or you could plug it in to devivce 'b' if it is a hub. it is is a switch, 
you can still put the sniffer in device B, just set it as the defalt route 
for the subnet and forward from it to the router. This can be done ligit or 
via arp poisoning (people think switches protect them from sniffing... not 
so!) this is what I would recomend. 

  } +-+
  }  ++ | |--|sniffer|
I'net }--| router |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
  }  ++ | |---
  } +-+
  A   B 

After:
if you set it up as below you will have to setup forwarding etc.. = 
unecessary pain. 

/dec 

Howard Lowndes writes: 

I need to configure a Linux box as a transparent data sniffer between an 
Internet connection router and the subnet hub/switch to which it is 
connected (see ASCII art below) 

Before: 

  } +-+
  }  ++ | |---
I'net }--| router |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
  }  ++ | |---
  } +-+
  A   B 

After: 

  } +-+
  }  ++ +-+ | |---
I'net }--| router |-| sniffer |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
  }  ++ +|+ | |---
  }  |  +-+
  A C|D   B
 E 

The requirement is that interface A must continue to think that is is 
still talking to the same addresses at B and the interfaces at B must 
continue to think they are talking to the address at A.  IOW, interface D 
must mimic interface A and interface C must mimic interfaces B.  
Connection to the sniffer will be at interface E. 

This to enable a transparent man-in-the-middle data sniff.  It's OK, it is
for a legitimate purpose :) 

Does anyone have any pointers to this config.  I believe it was discussed 
on SLUG a few years back, but I can't think where to start looking. 

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Re: [SLUG] Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 18:14, Howard Lowndes wrote:
 I need to configure a Linux box as a transparent data sniffer between an 
 Internet connection router and the subnet hub/switch to which it is 
 connected (see ASCII art below)

Install bridge utils. then configure a bridge on two ethernet interfaces
on that box.

Don't give the ethernet box an ip on the bridge or those ethernet
interfaces.

For management, you could have a third interface with an ip on it.

CHeers,
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Re: [SLUG] Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread dazza
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 I need to configure a Linux box as a transparent data sniffer between an
 Internet connection router and the subnet hub/switch to which it is
 connected (see ASCII art below)

 Before:

   } +-+
   }  ++ | |---
 I'net }--| router |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
   }  ++ | |---
   } +-+
   A   B

 After:

   } +-+
   }  ++ +-+ | |---
 I'net }--| router |-| sniffer |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
   }  ++ +|+ | |---
   }  |  +-+
   A C|D   B
  E

Use bridging on interfaces C  D - don't give them IP addresses, just let
them act as transparent devices - put an isolated IP address on interface
E for management/data dumps.

Take your sniffs from the raw device files on interface C  D rather than
the IP addresses.

There are bridging utilities for Linux which should do it.

DaZZa

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[SLUG] Re: [MURLUG]Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Ross Wheeler wrote:

 
 On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Howard Lowndes wrote:
 
  I need to configure a Linux box as a transparent data sniffer between an
  Internet connection router and the subnet hub/switch to which it is
  connected (see ASCII art below)
 
  Before:
 
} +-+
}  ++ | |---
  I'net }--| router |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
}  ++ | |---
} +-+
A   B
 
  After:
 
} +-+
}  ++ +-+ | |---
  I'net }--| router |-| sniffer |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
}  ++ +|+ | |---
}  |  +-+
A C|D   B
   E
 
  The requirement is that interface A must continue to think that is is
  still talking to the same addresses at B and the interfaces at B must
  continue to think they are talking to the address at A.  IOW, interface D
  must mimic interface A and interface C must mimic interfaces B.
  Connection to the sniffer will be at interface E.
 
  This to enable a transparent man-in-the-middle data sniff.  It's OK, it is
  for a legitimate purpose :)
 
  Does anyone have any pointers to this config.  I believe it was discussed
  on SLUG a few years back, but I can't think where to start looking.
 
 Seriously, why not make a cable with the TX pair disconnected and plug a
 single interface into the existing link and sniff it directly, or, if it
 is a HUB, simply plug into the hub?
 
 I understand your problem if you have a switch there, but the first
 suggestion covers that.

But then it will have to have an IP address from the subnet, which will 
mean that it is not transparent.

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[SLUG] Mathematical ammo in the OS war

2003-08-17 Thread Rick Welykochy
http://plus.maths.org/issue25/news/programs/index.html

  Open wide...

   The open source community may now have more than ideology on their side,
   with researchers showing mathematically that their release early, release often
   software development model is the quickest way to bug-free code.

   ...

   In a paper http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0306511 currently being refereed,
   Damien Challet and Yann Le Du from the University of Oxford characterised open
   source software as that developed in the bazaar style, and closed source as that
   created with the cathedral approach. They developed a mathematical model of how
   bugs, or errors in the software, are detected and resolved for the two types of
   software development.




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[SLUG] Re: [MURLUG]Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread Ross Wheeler

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Howard Lowndes wrote:

   The requirement is that interface A must continue to think that is is
   still talking to the same addresses at B and the interfaces at B must
   continue to think they are talking to the address at A.  IOW, interface D
   must mimic interface A and interface C must mimic interfaces B.
   Connection to the sniffer will be at interface E.
  
   This to enable a transparent man-in-the-middle data sniff.  It's OK, it is
   for a legitimate purpose :)
  
  Seriously, why not make a cable with the TX pair disconnected and plug a
  single interface into the existing link and sniff it directly, or, if it
  is a HUB, simply plug into the hub?
 
  I understand your problem if you have a switch there, but the first
  suggestion covers that.

 But then it will have to have an IP address from the subnet, which will
 mean that it is not transparent.

No, not at all. The BPF device can be put in promiscuous (sp?) mode, and
will catch any data, regardless. tcpdump is your friend.

I know *FOR AN ABSOLUTE FACT* (because I do it all day, every day) that I
can put in an interface in Promisc mode and sniff all data, regardless of
source and destination addresses (and often BOTH are different to the
network address of the card used to sniff), and I can see *everything*.

RossW

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Re: [SLUG] Transparent data sniffer

2003-08-17 Thread Kevin Saenz
Couldn't you make your sniffer box also act as your firewall (after all
it's a Linux router/firewall)?
Your after shot is similar to my network design.
A is my internal interface for my ADSL Modem, C is my firewall external
interface, E is to my DMZ and D points to my LAN.
My DMZ contains Internet bound Servers, My LAN contains Beta servers
and workstations. My firewall is running IPtables, and snort. I can
run tcpdump off any interface.

 I need to configure a Linux box as a transparent data sniffer between an 
 Internet connection router and the subnet hub/switch to which it is 
 connected (see ASCII art below)
 
 Before:
 
   } +-+
   }  ++ | |---
 I'net }--| router |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
   }  ++ | |---
   } +-+
   A   B
 
 After:
 
   } +-+
   }  ++ +-+ | |---
 I'net }--| router |-| sniffer |-| switch/hub  |--- subnet
   }  ++ +|+ | |---
   }  |  +-+
   A C|D   B
  E
 
 The requirement is that interface A must continue to think that is is 
 still talking to the same addresses at B and the interfaces at B must 
 continue to think they are talking to the address at A.  IOW, interface D 
 must mimic interface A and interface C must mimic interfaces B.  
 Connection to the sniffer will be at interface E.
 
 This to enable a transparent man-in-the-middle data sniff.  It's OK, it is
 for a legitimate purpose :)
 
 Does anyone have any pointers to this config.  I believe it was discussed 
 on SLUG a few years back, but I can't think where to start looking.
 
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[SLUG] up2date Problem !!

2003-08-17 Thread Louis Selvon
Hi:

up2date won't work anymore on my Red Hat 7.2 box. I have pasted the error
below. How do I fix this ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# /usr/sbin/up2date
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/sbin/up2date, line 18, in ?
from up2date_client import clap
  File /usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/clap.py, line 7, in ?
import popt
ImportError: No module named popt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]#

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Re: [SLUG] Terminated RPM database

2003-08-17 Thread James Gregory
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 15:07, Richard Neal wrote:
 James Gregory wrote:
  So, it's taken a while but I've finally managed to break an rpm
  database. Properly. Symptoms:
  
 
 Well have you tried deleting all of the rpm's that are conflicting and 
 running
 
 rpm --rebuilddb

I've run rpm --rebuilddb. I don't know how to find these conflicting
rpms though -- what do you mean?

Since this morning I've done some more tinkering. It seems to me that it
is almost certainly a case of me missing some DSA public keys:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] james]$ rpm -qf `which python`
error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#1580 Header V3 DSA signature:
BAD, key ID 70771ff3
[EMAIL PROTECTED] james]$ rpm -qf --nosignature `which python`
python-base-2.3-2mdk

That is, this problem only shows itself when I ask rpm to verify
signatures (the default action since 4.1).

I figured it was a database problem since I didn't realise that rpm does
signature checks on all operations now. The whole dbiterator, skipping
header, error thing said database to me.

 PS dont use rpm --force unless you like to break your rpm database

Why is that? My understanding was that --force merely turns off some
tests to say whether or not the package is to be installed (stuff like
whether the package is already installed). I didn't think it did
anything to damage the integrity of the package database.

Thanks for your help,

James.

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Re: [SLUG] up2date Problem !!

2003-08-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Louis Selvon

 up2date won't work anymore on my Red Hat 7.2 box. I have pasted the error
 below. How do I fix this ?

 ImportError: No module named popt

Make sure you have the python-popt (or similar) package installed.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] altering video card for X from command line

2003-08-17 Thread Voytek Eymont
** Reply to note from Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15 Aug 2003 17:27:50 +1000


thanks for the tips, video card got reconfigured automagically on power up,
and, required no re-config with new hardware

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Re: [SLUG] Mathematical ammo in the OS war

2003-08-17 Thread Ken Foskey
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 19:03, Rick Welykochy wrote:
 http://plus.maths.org/issue25/news/programs/index.html
 
   Open wide...
 
The open source community may now have more than ideology on their side,
with researchers showing mathematically that their release early, release often
software development model is the quickest way to bug-free code.
 
...
 
In a paper http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0306511 currently being refereed,
Damien Challet and Yann Le Du from the University of Oxford characterised open
source software as that developed in the bazaar style, and closed source as that
created with the cathedral approach. They developed a mathematical model of how
bugs, or errors in the software, are detected and resolved for the two types of
software development.

Some thoughts, without disagreeing with the study.

a) OpenSource is becoming more prevalent.  This means that there are a
lot more open source projects competing for the time of programmers.

b) In turn there are more programmers working on open source,  however
the quality must be going down as more of the average programmers join
the fray.  Kind of destroys the quality programmer theory.

The final comment on the article is that it misses the distance from bug
introduction to bug notification, this time is very short.  For gcc I
was able to identify the problem within 2 weeks and it was therefore
easy to locate the ultimate source of the problem in all the changes,
imagine the proposed 18 month star office update cycle.  (Mind you the
more important outcome was an 8 line test program that ensures that my
particular bug never haunts gcc again, extreme programming anyone.)

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Re: [SLUG] MySQL PHP cannot load MySQL extension

2003-08-17 Thread Voytek Eymont
** Reply to note from Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03 Aug 2003 07:46:36 +1000
   
 did you install php using rpms from redhat?
 you might be missing php-mysql rpm.
   

Kevin, 

I found my problem, missing 'extensions=mysql.so' in php.ini 
(as well as php-mysql, it seems php-mysql is not installed as default)

thanks for you help

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Re: [SLUG] Linux and the future?

2003-08-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 10:44, Dan Banyard wrote:

 It would be great to get some comments from anyone out there?

RedHat have a product to sell - that doesn't mean you need it.

Unless you need some of the *specific* features of RedHat Enterprise,
I'd ignore it.

That said, if you are looking for 24x7 support, and the like - that
costs no matter what OS you have.

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RE: [SLUG] Linux and the future?

2003-08-17 Thread Rowling, Jill
I think those prices for RedHat (read the fine print) are for a certain
number of hours of support contract. The basic Red Hat system is about
$39.95 with no support whatsoever.
With the SuSE boxed set, again you get a certain amount of support from
their support centre, and again you can get just the CDs with no support for
a low cost.

If your company has its own IT support, there is probably no reason to
supplement it with pre-paid support.
However if you were embarking on a new installation for your company, and
you actually needed that support line, then you might weigh up that cost
against hiring someone to do the same thing.

It's a business decision - in both cases you get the same physical software.
You can buy the books separately if you like.

I found the information in the boxed set SuSE helpful for a first time,
however the on line help with the standard CD distro is pretty easy to
follow.
I've been reading the Debian READMEs and they seem pretty straightforward,
too, for something with no apparent support (yeah, and a cast of
thousands...). So I think it depends on your experience.

Probably for a business you would want to have a separate new machine setup
for the upgrade, get everything working on that, then swap it over with the
present live system.
In business, it is a bad idea to just rely on one computer and hope an
upgrade works. Doesn't matter if it's Linux or Windows or whatever. Business
continuity comes first.

Regards,

Jill.

-Original Message-
From: Dan Banyard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 18 August 2003 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Linux and the future?


Hi,

I would like to try and get some opinion on the future of Linux.

I have been using SuSE Linux for over 3 years now for my business.  I am
currently configuring a new server on which I will host my web server, email
and other vital components.  I am happy with SuSE (I currently use v7.2) and
have been looking into the latest version.  I am now confused as to what
SuSE (and RedHat) are offering as they both seem to have moved to either a
desktop version for home use (pricing in at around $120 for the box set) or
an Enterprise version for business use (pricing in at around $4500).  I have
been reading through the marketing type blurb on their websites and from
what I can tell if you have a business critical system the only choice is to
purchase the Enterprise grade system.

So I am faced with the decision of the standard version SuSE or the
Enterprise version and the enormous price difference.  I have
technology/software based company which is not an enterprise level business
with massive IT budgets for software - but I do not want have my business
system supported on a desktop product.  Where does a small business go?
Surely this is not the future for Linux as wasn't this the whole point of
Linux in the first place?

It would be great to get some comments from anyone out there?

Regards.

Dan




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Re: [SLUG] sendmail request

2003-08-17 Thread John Clarke
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 07:37:02PM +1000, Jim Lemon wrote:

 I, like many others, am stuck with a sendmail problem. I realise that this is 
 probably OT, but can anyone suggest where I could ask what is probably a 
 risibly simple question about sendmail?

It's not OT.  This list isn't just for discussions about the Linux
kernel, it's also for apps which run on Linux.  Ask your question here,
there are a few of us who know sendmail.


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[SLUG] New Nigerian SCAM

2003-08-17 Thread Kevin Saenz
/. has a nice little article on the Nigerian-SCO scam.
it's worth a quick read.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux and the future?

2003-08-17 Thread Nicholas Wilcox

Dan Banyard said:
 I have been using SuSE Linux for over 3 years now for my business.  I am
 currently configuring a new server on which I will host my web server,
 email and other vital components.  I am happy with SuSE (I currently use
 v7.2) and have been looking into the latest version.  I am now confused
 as to what SuSE (and RedHat) are offering as they both seem to have
 moved to either a desktop version for home use (pricing in at around
 $120 for the box set) or an Enterprise version for business use (pricing
 in at around $4500).  I have been reading through the marketing type
 blurb on their websites and from what I can tell if you have a business
 critical system the only choice is to purchase the Enterprise grade
 system.

RedHat enterprise has a longer support cycle than their desktop edition.
Two years versus six months if I recall correctly. Certain hardware may
only support the enterprise edition. The drivers are released as binary
kernel modules compiled against the RedHat enterprise kernels. Third party
apps may also support enterpise edition only. These could probably be made
to run on RedHat 7.x but you'd be stuffed trying to get support from the
company for this.

RedHat enterprise also has a proprietery IP load balancing service as well
as HA clustering.

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[SLUG] Request for help with mousedrake

2003-08-17 Thread William Chivers
Hello All,

Can I ask for your help in setting up a mouse in Mandrake 9.0? Sounds simple, but...

My PS/2 mouse stopped working on my AMD400 (5-6 years old) with Mandrake 9.0 and 
Windows 95 installed (I have actually used Linux exclusively for over a year now, but 
have not bothered to remove Win95).
The mouse did not work in Win95 either, so I replaced it (the mouse). Still no mouse 
in either OS. My guess is that the PS/2 mouse port on the motherboard may be damaged, 
the machine is old and has been moved many times (although I am willing to listen to 
alternative theories!)
So, I dug out an old Microsoft serial mouse. It works in Win95, but sadly not in 
Mandrake. I ran harddrake2 and mousedrake, and the XF86Config-4 and XF86Config files 
reflect that (contents below), but still no mouse. Help! 
Another thing: I have Mandrake 9.1 on a much newer machine at work (6 months old). I 
took out the PS/2 mouse from it and tried the same serial mouse, and on bootup 
Mandrake 9.1 detected the new hardware, configured it and it worked. This could be due 
to the newer machine, or 9.1, or both.
I would be very grateful for any assistance or suggestions.

Regards,
Bill Chivers

Relevant contents of XF86Config-4:
Section ServerFlags
  AllowMouseOpenFail
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Identifier Mouse1
  Driver mouse
  Option Protocol Microsoft
  Option Device /dev/ttyS0  (I tried ttyS1)
  Option Emulate3Buttons
  Option Emulate3Timeout 50
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
  InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
EndSection

 ... and XF86Config:

Section ServerFlags
  AllowMouseOpenFail
EndSection

Section Pointer
  Protocol Microsoft
  Device /dev/ttyS0  (I tried ttyS1)
  Emulate3Buttons
  Emulate3Timeout 50
EndSection


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RE: [SLUG] New Nigerian SCAM

2003-08-17 Thread Kevin Saenz
here is the like on the Nigerian scam

http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html

Kevin
 Hi kev,
 
 Where is it?
 
 Dinesh.

 /. has a nice little article on the Nigerian-SCO scam.
 it's worth a quick read.
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[SLUG] Sony Vaio PCGV505GP and Linux

2003-08-17 Thread augusts
Hi all,

I'm curious if anyone has had any experience with this specific model of
the Sony Vaio
(http://www.sony.com.au/vaio/products/index.cfm?catid=19479prodid=PCGV5
05GP) and Red Hat (or other distros). I've found a lot of Sony/Linux
info on the web but not for this specific model.

Things look promising for the whole V505 range, but before a purchase I
thought I would check with the experts.

August

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Re: [SLUG] Sony Vaio PCGV505GP and Linux

2003-08-17 Thread ramon buckland
Hi August,

I have extensive experience with an earlier model, PCG990FX (I think)

In brief: 
   You need to make sure the Linux kernel has ACPI support
   built in, else you may cook the laptop.

In long:   
   The SONY laptops do not have any APM (Advanced Power Management)
   (legacy stuff) but rather, use the newer and better ACPI stuff.
see google for acronym breakdown and groovy details on it.

   ACPI replaces APM (and does more).
   Importantly it runs your fans.
   ACPI is most often (and with my model SONY laptop) software controlled.

   ie: if you don't have the software running to manage the ACPI
   messages etc, your fans won't turn on. and you will cook the laptop,

When I purchased my Sony Vaio, the kernel (2.4) did not
have ACPI support built in, but there is was/is a very good project
happening at http://acpi.sf.net such that ACPI support
is built into 2.5 and thus the new (yet to come) 2.6.

So .. get a distro that has patched the kernel with ACPI support
(any of the kernels 2.4.x pretty much onwards have ACPI support
or can be patched for it.

There are differences with the http://acpi.sf.net patches and the default
2.5 kernel tree ACPI support (minor i think, just ACPI moves quicker
then good stuff get's merged in, not too sure really, just noticed it was 
different, and that acpi.sf.net was putting out patches for kernels
with ACPI support already in it.

The mailing list linux-sony @ (something) is the BEST place for all 
these gritty details. 

Your model may have a US equivalent and thus you can base a lot
of the research of that.


On another note: Sony didn't support Linux when I bought mine, but 
such a nice laptop and good price I did not care 1 bit.

and it runs real well!.


HTH.
   
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:20:18 +1000, augusts wrote
 Hi all,
 
 I'm curious if anyone has had any experience with this specific 
 model of the Sony Vaio
 (http://www.sony.com.au/vaio/products/index.cfm?catid=19479prodid=PCGV5
 05GP) and Red Hat (or other distros). I've found a lot of Sony/Linux
 info on the web but not for this specific model.
 
 Things look promising for the whole V505 range, but before a 
 purchase I thought I would check with the experts.
 
 August
 
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Re: [SLUG] Sony Vaio PCGV505GP and Linux

2003-08-17 Thread John Clarke
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 01:43:16PM +1000, ramon buckland wrote:

 The mailing list linux-sony @ (something) is the BEST place for all 
 these gritty details. 

http://returntonature.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-sony


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