Re: Re_ [SLUG] Help with some kernel hacking.eml
I have been building kernels for different architectures ect for quite a while, but what I haven't been doing is changing the source so that bugs and drivers that don¹t work are fixed. Alpha is a bit left these days and it can be a bit of a challenge to find a kernel that is stable on it. From: Roger Salisbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:45:19 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re_ [SLUG] Help with some kernel hacking.eml I was a newbie doning this a few years ago. I was building kernels for MIPS(SGI) and SPARC (SUN) proccessors. First I built kernels for X86 machines on a X86 machine. Then I built kernels for sparc / mips machines on a X86 machine. IE crosscompiled on a X86 host for different target platforms. Its a long winding road perhaps but you will learn alot. First learn how to build kernels for X86. crosscompiling is a little more difficult. Cheers Roger - Original Message - From: DE LUCA Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Help with some kernel hacking -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open Source in Iraq.
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 14:48, David Killen wrote: An interesting article I found about the possibilities of Open Source in Iraq http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7320mode=threadorder=0 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7320mode=threadorder=0 We're seeing some activity over there too. OpenSkills already has members in the middle-east (to my surprise), and we have someone looking for a JBoss whizz in Jordan (if you know of any potential candidates, please yell). We live in very exciting open source times, I think. -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SCSI termination and 80 pin devices
Hi all, I've got an interesting question regarding SCSI bus termination and newer 80 pin devices. I have: 1 x Adaptec 2100S RAID controller 2 x 36 GB 80 pin SCSI drives hot-plug boxes. I have done a lot with SCSI over the years, and it was my understanding that the SCSI bus must be terminated at both ends. The controller (normally) handles one end and the other with either active or passive terminators. (on the disk or the bus) I had some problems with the configuration and when querying Adaptec, they came back and said: If you do have drive enclosures, note that you cannot use the Adaptec supplied cable with the card. This cable has terminating resistor built-in and cannot be used on hard-drive enclosures. Basically, you do not want to use terminated cable under any circumstances if you have drive enclosures or back plane. Anyone familiar with this? Are drive enclosures 'auto terminating' now? TIA Andy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Telstra Cable not responding
A friends linux box connected to a Telstra Cable broadband connection decided to stop responding tonight, the box is setup using dhcp, and bpalogin. From what I can determine the DHCP request returns an ip in the range of 192.168.100.x instead of an external/usable ip. Is anybody else experiencing this? Has anybody else had this problem in the past? How should have I configured the box better? I also have an ADSL connection with IINET with a static ip. It uses pppoe and even though the ip is static I just let pppoe fetch it with dhcp. Ebout every 10 - 15 days of connection time these machines will stop responding to the internet. I can turn the modem off and on again and restart that connection but the connection is momentery. It is not until I reboot the machine that the connection will be established reliably again. What gives? Should I not use DHCP (Maybe it's a lease problem)? Thene is nothing in the logs to indicate what's going wrong. It just timeouts. It happens on both machines, one on cable in Sydney (RH8), and one on adsl in Forster (RH9). Regards, Karl Bowden -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] dd speed (copying whole disks)
Dont know anything about *DMA stuff... Try this URL http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesUDMA.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] (slug) Networking problems
Hello sluggers, Well, I´ve done it now... I bought 3 ethernet cards and hope to make a network for the three machines I have, probably a parallel port for the laptop would have been less expensive but... the would have been too sensible. If anyone can help me here: I´m about to go mad and give up to the evil darth microbe. I have 3 Computers - Objective is to file, print share and internet share as well. a) 1 PC dedicated to linux on mdk 9.2 with 2 ethernet cards and dial up connection via ppp to internet and mail server, printer and scanner, 2 x 20 GB hdd, 512m ram b) 1 PC swapped between mdk 9.0 and win 98, if only for accounting, has one ethernet card and is connected directly to the above computer - needs to be able to print from win 98, web browsing etc from mdk 9.0. c) 1 Toshiba satellite laptop with mdk 9.2, onboard ethernet, is connected directly to the (a) computer - needs to be able to print and share files with (a) computer. Now despite trying my damnedest to get them to talk to each other, including installation of the OS on the (a) computer about a dozen times (yes... I am thick) unmentionable numbers of swear words and reconfigurations and boots, reboots, etc, etc, they both still stare at me as if I´m brainless, cursors blinking mercilessly refusing point blank to do anything about shared printing, internet or even acknowledging each other down the internet cables they are connected on. In the config I get that both ethernet cards are recognised, at boot, and in the config menu as root, in the KDE system info at this point in time they are UP and in broadcast modes, I can´t figure it out. Does anyone have a stepwise procedure / howto for connecting machines in the manner I desire? I have and old sybex text but it is not very informative or useful in this endeavour. My thanks in advance. Regards, Nicholas Tomlin. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (slug) Networking problems
a) are you using cross-over cables instead of straight Cat-5?? (may be a silly question but I've seen it happen)... b) ifconfig 192.168.2.1 on one side and 192.168.2.2 on the other and try and ping back and forward... use tcpdump on every interface and look for packets... Dave. On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Nicholas Tomlin wrote: Hello sluggers, Well, I´ve done it now... I bought 3 ethernet cards and hope to make a network for the three machines I have, probably a parallel port for the laptop would have been less expensive but... the would have been too sensible. If anyone can help me here: I´m about to go mad and give up to the evil darth microbe. I have 3 Computers - Objective is to file, print share and internet share as well. a) 1 PC dedicated to linux on mdk 9.2 with 2 ethernet cards and dial up connection via ppp to internet and mail server, printer and scanner, 2 x 20 GB hdd, 512m ram b) 1 PC swapped between mdk 9.0 and win 98, if only for accounting, has one ethernet card and is connected directly to the above computer - needs to be able to print from win 98, web browsing etc from mdk 9.0. c) 1 Toshiba satellite laptop with mdk 9.2, onboard ethernet, is connected directly to the (a) computer - needs to be able to print and share files with (a) computer. Now despite trying my damnedest to get them to talk to each other, including installation of the OS on the (a) computer about a dozen times (yes... I am thick) unmentionable numbers of swear words and reconfigurations and boots, reboots, etc, etc, they both still stare at me as if I´m brainless, cursors blinking mercilessly refusing point blank to do anything about shared printing, internet or even acknowledging each other down the internet cables they are connected on. In the config I get that both ethernet cards are recognised, at boot, and in the config menu as root, in the KDE system info at this point in time they are UP and in broadcast modes, I can´t figure it out. Does anyone have a stepwise procedure / howto for connecting machines in the manner I desire? I have and old sybex text but it is not very informative or useful in this endeavour. My thanks in advance. Regards, Nicholas Tomlin. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (slug) Networking problems
Nicholas Tomlin wrote: Hello sluggers, Well, I´ve done it now... I bought 3 ethernet cards and hope to make a network for the three machines I have, probably a parallel port for the laptop would have been less expensive but... the would have been too sensible. If anyone can help me here: I´m about to go mad and give up to the evil darth microbe. I have 3 Computers - Objective is to file, print share and internet share as well. a) 1 PC dedicated to linux on mdk 9.2 with 2 ethernet cards and dial up connection via ppp to internet and mail server, printer and scanner, 2 x 20 GB hdd, 512m ram b) 1 PC swapped between mdk 9.0 and win 98, if only for accounting, has one ethernet card and is connected directly to the above computer - needs to be able to print from win 98, web browsing etc from mdk 9.0. c) 1 Toshiba satellite laptop with mdk 9.2, onboard ethernet, is connected directly to the (a) computer - needs to be able to print and share files with (a) computer. Now despite trying my damnedest to get them to talk to each other, including installation of the OS on the (a) computer about a dozen times (yes... I am thick) unmentionable numbers of swear words and reconfigurations and boots, reboots, etc, etc, they both still stare at me as if I´m brainless, cursors blinking mercilessly refusing point blank to do anything about shared printing, internet or even acknowledging each other down the internet cables they are connected on. In the config I get that both ethernet cards are recognised, at boot, and in the config menu as root, in the KDE system info at this point in time they are UP and in broadcast modes, I can´t figure it out. Does anyone have a stepwise procedure / howto for connecting machines in the manner I desire? I have and old sybex text but it is not very informative or useful in this endeavour. Hi Nicholas, I have a feeling you are using standard ethernet cables, which are wired for connection to a hub or switch. If you want to link two network cards directly, you need a cable with the send and receive wires swapped on one end. http://store.compute-aid.com/spec/rj45.html Felix -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 2.6.0 Has Been Released
Craige McWhirter wrote: Get it from the usual mirrors (aarnet seems to be getting a little hammered right now): http://www.piau.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ http://www.planetmirror.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ Redhat RPMs are available as well for those who swing that way: http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ I think these RPMs are more for Fedora systems, but I've been using them on my Redhat 9 laptop without any real problems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (slug) Networking problems
Make sure you have subnets 1 2. for example: 192.168.0.X is the laptop side 192.168.1.X is the Dual boot side. netmask would be 255.255.255.0 Make the a) machine .1 on both those networks and make the gateway address the .1 address for that network. If you want to cross across you need to add a route to allow b) talk to c) and you also need to enable forwarding. From a strictly security point of view the a) box has a lot on it. This is a risk and it stops being a proper secure gateway. The other thing you may want is masquerade as well. This hides your private address from the Internet. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable not responding
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:31:23 +1100 Karl Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I can determine the DHCP request returns an ip in the range of 192.168.100.x instead of an external/usable ip. That doesn't look right. Have you tried running dhclient manually? Is anybody else experiencing this? Not at the moment. Has anybody else had this problem in the past? Yep! Bigpong regularly screws their own network causing problems like this. First power cycle your machine and cable modem. It won't help, but Bigpond support will ask you to do this anyway. Then ringing Bigpong support and ask if there is an outage in your area. Insist that it is their problem not yours. Tell then you have already power cycled the machine and modem. If this doesn't help wait until after 10 am tomorrow when the idiot who unplugged the network comes back in. If it still isn't working at 10 am after another power cycle, ring again. HTH, Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Microsoft : Yesterday's software running on today's hardware tomorrow. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Delay between booting and going to gdm login screen
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Andrew Monkhouse wrote: I hadn't looked at what was being run at startup, since it appeared that everything had started up, it was just waiting for keyboard entry before going into graphical mode. But here is a list of what is being run at startup: That just gave me another idea... before X has started, while in the seemingly hung state, get to a console and do this:- ps afxw before.X Then do whatever you need (ie press enter on another screen or whatever) to get X running - just till the login screen ps afxw after.X Now compare the differences and post the result, maybe some other X guru will spot which process is stuck. Not a bad idea for general use. However in this case it does not appear that any of the individual startup scripts are hanging. snip Then there is nothing for 5 minutes until I start getting various cron job outputs and various firewall messages. Then finally these bunch of messages when I log in an hour later: Dec 18 08:13:04 andrewkheng modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-226 Dec 18 08:13:04 andrewkheng last message repeated 3 times Dec 18 08:13:04 andrewkheng kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann Dec 18 08:13:04 andrewkheng kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M Dec 18 08:13:04 andrewkheng kernel: agpgart: Detected Intel i850 chipset Dec 18 08:13:04 andrewkheng kernel: agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xe800 Dec 18 08:13:16 andrewkheng gdm(pam_unix)[22562]: session opened for user andrewm by (uid=0) The module char-major-226 message looks interesting, but this only appears at login (and at every login) not at the time when the X server _should_ be starting. But I will look at that further to see why this is happening. This is at least indicative of some problem with the graphics card I think. This sort of message means a device was accessed for which there was no module loaded and the kernel module loader looks at the major/minor number of the device node and consults modules.conf to sort out which module it is. Usually there's some entry like the following:- alias char-major-89 i2c-dev alias char-major-10-200 tun In my example case a 'modprobe tun' is effectively done when crw---1 root root 10, 200 Mar 12 2002 /dev/net/tun is accessed. So.. working backwards in your case... cd /dev ls -l * | grep 226, crw---1 root root 226, 0 Jan 30 2003 card0 crw---1 root root 226, 1 Jan 30 2003 card1 crw---1 root root 226, 2 Jan 30 2003 card2 crw---1 root root 226, 3 Jan 30 2003 card3 find ./ -name card0 ./dri/card0 So there you have it, something to do with a DRI (Direct Rendering Interface) module is attempting to be loaded, possibly a big clue, possibly a red herring too. One thing I've noticed in recent RedHat's is when you're in runlevel 5 it will try to start X a couple of times but if it can't after about a minute it reverts back a text gui asking you whether you want to try again or switch to runlevel 3 (from memory) - ie gdm stops trying to launch X. Thus allowing a text login, running redhat-config-xfree86, then you can retry OR kill the paused process (forget which, probably gdm-binary) and whammo there's the login screen. If I'm wrong it's because it's all from my dodgy head and it's late. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable not responding
I've not seen this with Cable before but it's possible it's a new setup for disabled accounts. See if he/she can access 'www' or 'www.nsw.bigpond.com' or whatever the domain you get from DHCP is. Then try accessing the account info. Anything from 'sorry we stuffed up' to 'you forgot to pay the bill' might surface. I got this with Optus dialup when I signed up for somebody once... some private IP space address 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x I can't remember which. I chased for a while and finally rang them.. there was a website you needed to hit and enable the account. On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Karl Bowden wrote: A friends linux box connected to a Telstra Cable broadband connection decided to stop responding tonight, the box is setup using dhcp, and bpalogin. From what I can determine the DHCP request returns an ip in the range of 192.168.100.x instead of an external/usable ip. Is anybody else experiencing this? Has anybody else had this problem in the past? How should have I configured the box better? I also have an ADSL connection with IINET with a static ip. It uses pppoe and even though the ip is static I just let pppoe fetch it with dhcp. Ebout every 10 - 15 days of connection time these machines will stop responding to the internet. I can turn the modem off and on again and restart that connection but the connection is momentery. It is not until I reboot the machine that the connection will be established reliably again. What gives? Should I not use DHCP (Maybe it's a lease problem)? Thene is nothing in the logs to indicate what's going wrong. It just timeouts. It happens on both machines, one on cable in Sydney (RH8), and one on adsl in Forster (RH9). This one's a little harder to fathom... try adding a daily/hourly ping to some host on the net. My thinking is some sort of inactivity timeout. Also an alternative to rebooting, perhaps down up the interface daily. Won't answer the WHY? question but may narrow it down. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (slug) Networking problems
Ken you must be tired... there's probably heaps of people out there with second hand hubs switches who can help Nicholas out :-) (heck I've got a spare 10Mb hub I'd part with for $20 neg.) Routing subnets is just making a simple LAN difficult here. Nicholas, you're going to have to manually set the IP addresses on each ethernet card in each operating system. To send packets from computer A to computer C via computer B is called routing, computer B will need routing enabled. If you persist without the hub setup IP's something like this perhaps. [computer A] 192.168.2.3 (default route to 192.168.2.1) | | crossover cable | | 192.168.2.1 eth0 [computer B] | 192.168.2.2 eth1 | | crossover cable | [computer C] 192.168.2.4 (default route to 192.168.2.2) Assuming computer B is linux turn on routing in the file /etc/sysctl.conf (on redhat at least).. otherwise add echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file for example. Hey, there might even be an enable routing option in some gui somewhere... I don't know, I seem to find the gui ways last. There's probably a way to do it in Windows too, don't ask here ;-) As for sharing the net... lets try that another time ;-) On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Ken Foskey wrote: Make sure you have subnets 1 2. for example: 192.168.0.X is the laptop side 192.168.1.X is the Dual boot side. netmask would be 255.255.255.0 Make the a) machine .1 on both those networks and make the gateway address the .1 address for that network. If you want to cross across you need to add a route to allow b) talk to c) and you also need to enable forwarding. From a strictly security point of view the a) box has a lot on it. This is a risk and it stops being a proper secure gateway. The other thing you may want is masquerade as well. This hides your private address from the Internet. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable not responding
It must have just been a temp tesltra problem, because this morning it works fine. - Karl On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 00:58, Grant Parnell wrote: I've not seen this with Cable before but it's possible it's a new setup for disabled accounts. See if he/she can access 'www' or 'www.nsw.bigpond.com' or whatever the domain you get from DHCP is. Then try accessing the account info. Anything from 'sorry we stuffed up' to 'you forgot to pay the bill' might surface. I got this with Optus dialup when I signed up for somebody once... some private IP space address 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x I can't remember which. I chased for a while and finally rang them.. there was a website you needed to hit and enable the account. On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Karl Bowden wrote: A friends linux box connected to a Telstra Cable broadband connection decided to stop responding tonight, the box is setup using dhcp, and bpalogin. From what I can determine the DHCP request returns an ip in the range of 192.168.100.x instead of an external/usable ip. Is anybody else experiencing this? Has anybody else had this problem in the past? How should have I configured the box better? I also have an ADSL connection with IINET with a static ip. It uses pppoe and even though the ip is static I just let pppoe fetch it with dhcp. Ebout every 10 - 15 days of connection time these machines will stop responding to the internet. I can turn the modem off and on again and restart that connection but the connection is momentery. It is not until I reboot the machine that the connection will be established reliably again. What gives? Should I not use DHCP (Maybe it's a lease problem)? Thene is nothing in the logs to indicate what's going wrong. It just timeouts. It happens on both machines, one on cable in Sydney (RH8), and one on adsl in Forster (RH9). This one's a little harder to fathom... try adding a daily/hourly ping to some host on the net. My thinking is some sort of inactivity timeout. Also an alternative to rebooting, perhaps down up the interface daily. Won't answer the WHY? question but may narrow it down. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? - - -- - --- -- - - Karl Bowden Pacific Speed email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.pacificspeed.com.au - - -- -- --- -- - - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable not responding
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 23:36, Ken Foskey wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 22:31, Karl Bowden wrote: Ebout every 10 - 15 days of connection time these machines will stop responding to the internet. I can turn the modem off and on again and restart that connection but the connection is momentery. It is not until I reboot the machine that the connection will be established reliably again. What gives? Should I not use DHCP (Maybe it's a lease problem)? Thene is nothing in the logs to indicate what's going wrong. It just timeouts. It happens on both machines, one on cable in Sydney (RH8), and one on adsl in Forster (RH9). `ifdown eth0` and `ifup eth0` did not work? Nope, it will usually not come back up, citeing timout problems, and if it does come back, the eth0 will send packets but not recive them. - Karl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable not responding
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:33:40 +1100 Karl Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must have just been a temp tesltra problem, because this morning it works fine. I get that once every couple of months. Some bigpond bozo pulls the plug on something and the net goes to for a 6-12 hour stretch. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak. - author Robert A. Heinlein on censorship. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (slug) Networking problems
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:14 pm, you wrote: Ken you must be tired... there's probably heaps of people out there with second hand hubs switches who can help Nicholas out :-) (heck I've got a spare 10Mb hub I'd part with for $20 neg.) Routing subnets is just making a simple LAN difficult here. Why do I always find out about these things after I´ve cooked my bankcard... Nicholas, you're going to have to manually set the IP addresses on each ethernet card in each operating system. To send packets from computer A to computer C via computer B is called routing, computer B will need routing enabled. If you persist without the hub setup IP's something like this perhaps. Grant, Thank you. Yours is a good picture of the situation but with the following adjustments: [computer b] 192.168.2.3 (default route to 192.168.2.1) xx alternate suggested?--[firewall][Modem]-- ISP [Desktop PC with linux mdk 9.0 and crashware 98SE] | crossover cable | file, print and internet share | 192.168.2.1 eth0 [computer a] x current setup ---[firewall][Modem]-- ISP [linux only - mdk 9.2]|-- Printer | 192.168.2.2 eth1|-- Scanner | | file, print share | crossover cable [computer C] 192.168.2.4 (default route to 192.168.2.2) [Laptop with linux mdk 9.2] Assuming computer a is linux turn on routing in the file /etc/sysctl.conf (on redhat at least).. otherwise add echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file for example. Hey, there might even be an enable routing option in some gui somewhere... I don't know, I seem to find the gui ways last. (seems like my bargain hunting abilities..) So what would it look like with the hub? Is this any easier to do with usb links between the machines or is that not an appropriate means of connection? There's probably a way to do it in Windows too, don't ask here ;-) I´m trying to avoid crashware entirely, believe me! As for sharing the net... lets try that another time ;-) On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Ken Foskey wrote: Make sure you have subnets 1 2. for example: 192.168.0.X is the laptop side 192.168.1.X is the Dual boot side. netmask would be 255.255.255.0 Make the a) machine .1 on both those networks and make the gateway address the .1 address for that network. If you want to cross across you need to add a route to allow b) talk to c) and you also need to enable forwarding. From a strictly security point of view the a) box has a lot on it. This is a risk and it stops being a proper secure gateway. Should I move the modem to box b? The other thing you may want is masquerade as well. This hides your private address from the Internet. Gentlemen, Thank you all, I´ll try these things and report back ASAP. Nicholas Tomlin. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable not responding
when you get an addresses in the 192.168.x.x it usually means the cable is not connected, I think you will find that your cable modem will also answer on 192.168.100.1 (I think). Best thing I have found is power off the modem leave it off for about 5 min and then turn it back on. A On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 06:33:40AM +1100, Karl Bowden wrote: It must have just been a temp tesltra problem, because this morning it works fine. - Karl On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 00:58, Grant Parnell wrote: I've not seen this with Cable before but it's possible it's a new setup for disabled accounts. See if he/she can access 'www' or 'www.nsw.bigpond.com' or whatever the domain you get from DHCP is. Then try accessing the account info. Anything from 'sorry we stuffed up' to 'you forgot to pay the bill' might surface. I got this with Optus dialup when I signed up for somebody once... some private IP space address 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x I can't remember which. I chased for a while and finally rang them.. there was a website you needed to hit and enable the account. On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Karl Bowden wrote: A friends linux box connected to a Telstra Cable broadband connection decided to stop responding tonight, the box is setup using dhcp, and bpalogin. From what I can determine the DHCP request returns an ip in the range of 192.168.100.x instead of an external/usable ip. Is anybody else experiencing this? Has anybody else had this problem in the past? How should have I configured the box better? I also have an ADSL connection with IINET with a static ip. It uses pppoe and even though the ip is static I just let pppoe fetch it with dhcp. Ebout every 10 - 15 days of connection time these machines will stop responding to the internet. I can turn the modem off and on again and restart that connection but the connection is momentery. It is not until I reboot the machine that the connection will be established reliably again. What gives? Should I not use DHCP (Maybe it's a lease problem)? Thene is nothing in the logs to indicate what's going wrong. It just timeouts. It happens on both machines, one on cable in Sydney (RH8), and one on adsl in Forster (RH9). This one's a little harder to fathom... try adding a daily/hourly ping to some host on the net. My thinking is some sort of inactivity timeout. Also an alternative to rebooting, perhaps down up the interface daily. Won't answer the WHY? question but may narrow it down. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? - - -- - --- -- - - Karl Bowden Pacific Speed email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.pacificspeed.com.au - - -- -- --- -- - - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] (slug) Networking problems
you could try setting up a bridge between the two cards, that gets ride of the routing issue! well between the 2 home PC atleast, still have to route to the internet. On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 01:14:49AM +1100, Grant Parnell wrote: Ken you must be tired... there's probably heaps of people out there with second hand hubs switches who can help Nicholas out :-) (heck I've got a spare 10Mb hub I'd part with for $20 neg.) Routing subnets is just making a simple LAN difficult here. Nicholas, you're going to have to manually set the IP addresses on each ethernet card in each operating system. To send packets from computer A to computer C via computer B is called routing, computer B will need routing enabled. If you persist without the hub setup IP's something like this perhaps. [computer A] 192.168.2.3 (default route to 192.168.2.1) | | crossover cable | | 192.168.2.1 eth0 [computer B] | 192.168.2.2 eth1 | | crossover cable | [computer C] 192.168.2.4 (default route to 192.168.2.2) Assuming computer B is linux turn on routing in the file /etc/sysctl.conf (on redhat at least).. otherwise add echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file for example. Hey, there might even be an enable routing option in some gui somewhere... I don't know, I seem to find the gui ways last. There's probably a way to do it in Windows too, don't ask here ;-) As for sharing the net... lets try that another time ;-) On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Ken Foskey wrote: Make sure you have subnets 1 2. for example: 192.168.0.X is the laptop side 192.168.1.X is the Dual boot side. netmask would be 255.255.255.0 Make the a) machine .1 on both those networks and make the gateway address the .1 address for that network. If you want to cross across you need to add a route to allow b) talk to c) and you also need to enable forwarding. From a strictly security point of view the a) box has a lot on it. This is a risk and it stops being a proper secure gateway. The other thing you may want is masquerade as well. This hides your private address from the Internet. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla
Title: Java Runtime and Mozilla Hi all, I've been trying to get some Java apps to display with Mozilla but it's not happening. The system is x86 (Dell), Red Hat 8 distro, fairly vanilla. I've loaded the Sun Java run time (j2re-1.4.2_03-fcs as an RPM) which has installed itself OK. Mozilla is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830, build 2002083014 And has java enabled in preferences. I've added this to my .bashrc: JAVAHOME=/usr/java NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=$JAVAHOME/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns4 export JAVAHOME export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH These values are active: ls $NPX_PLUGIN_PATH libjavaplugin.so But when I run Mozilla to look at a java application, either on this machine (in the installed samples) or a remote machine's live application, Mozilla displays an icon like a jigsaw puzzle piece and an error popup like this: This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-vm) that can only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in Do I have to add all the java .so's to the Mime types (if so, which ones would be appropriate?) or do I also have to install the Java compilers etc.? Or is this version of Mozilla too old? (The remote java app is only partially viewable in Win2k/Citrix but that's a different problem; I figured if the local application doesn't work at all then there's something I have to fix. The local (to Linux) application is the Sun Java dashboard that comes with the RPM. It should at least load something.). Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla
please kill the HTML mail.. I wondered why it was 12k Anyhoo, ns4 is most certinaly the wrong directory I'm no sure with your java runtime what is correct it could be ns600 or ns610 or something like about:plugins in Mozilla is your friend :-) also if you are using RH8.0 the plugin will probably need to be compiled with gcc 3.2 so that might be in a separate dir as well.. Dave. On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Rowling, Jill wrote: Hi all, I've been trying to get some Java apps to display with Mozilla but it's not happening. The system is x86 (Dell), Red Hat 8 distro, fairly vanilla. I've loaded the Sun Java run time (j2re-1.4.2_03-fcs as an RPM) which has installed itself OK. Mozilla is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830, build 2002083014 And has java enabled in preferences. I've added this to my .bashrc: JAVAHOME=/usr/java NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=$JAVAHOME/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns4 export JAVAHOME export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH These values are active: ls $NPX_PLUGIN_PATH libjavaplugin.so But when I run Mozilla to look at a java application, either on this machine (in the installed samples) or a remote machine's live application, Mozilla displays an icon like a jigsaw puzzle piece and an error popup like this: This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-vm) that can only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in Do I have to add all the java .so's to the Mime types (if so, which ones would be appropriate?) or do I also have to install the Java compilers etc.? Or is this version of Mozilla too old? (The remote java app is only partially viewable in Win2k/Citrix but that's a different problem; I figured if the local application doesn't work at all then there's something I have to fix. The local (to Linux) application is the Sun Java dashboard that comes with the RPM. It should at least load something.). Regards, Jill. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] SCSI termination and 80 pin devices
By Enclosures are they referring to the things that drives sit in to allow them to be hot pluggable (eg Sun RAID enclosures)? I think you need the hardware notes for your controller. I had to read mine about 3 or 4 times before it made sense (referring to a home system). You might want to download the service manual for your drive; once I did that and read it, it all made a lot more sense. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Andy Eager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2003 9:11 PM To: Slug list Subject: [SLUG] SCSI termination and 80 pin devices Hi all, I've got an interesting question regarding SCSI bus termination and newer 80 pin devices. I have: 1 x Adaptec 2100S RAID controller 2 x 36 GB 80 pin SCSI drives hot-plug boxes. I have done a lot with SCSI over the years, and it was my understanding that the SCSI bus must be terminated at both ends. The controller (normally) handles one end and the other with either active or passive terminators. (on the disk or the bus) I had some problems with the configuration and when querying Adaptec, they came back and said: If you do have drive enclosures, note that you cannot use the Adaptec supplied cable with the card. This cable has terminating resistor built-in and cannot be used on hard-drive enclosures. Basically, you do not want to use terminated cable under any circumstances if you have drive enclosures or back plane. Anyone familiar with this? Are drive enclosures 'auto terminating' now? TIA Andy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla
Hi Jill HTH: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/java.html Linux On Linux, Mozilla requires JRE 1.4.2 or later. Mozilla 1.4 and later, and Mozilla Firebird, are compiled with gcc 3.2.3. A gcc 3.x compatible version of the Java plugin must be used. JRE 1.4.2 contains a compatible plugin. If you installed the JRE 1.4.2_02 RPM, this plugin is /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so - and to install it for Mozilla (including Mozilla Firebird), do the following: * Open a terminal * Change to your Mozilla (or Mozilla Firebird) plugins directory * Issue the following command: ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so If you are using an older Linux distribution, you may need to install the gcc3 support libraries, as the gcc 3.2 version of the Java plugin requires libgcc_s.so.1 to operate. You may be able to find packages using Google. If you are using an old or unofficial build of Mozilla (1.4a or later) or Mozilla Firebird, you can check which compiler was used by entering about:buildconfig in the location bar and pressing enter. You will see a line such as gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux), which will show the compiler that was used. If gcc2.9x was used, you need to use the ns610 plugin, not the ns610-gcc32 plugin. MXmas Stuart On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 10:07, Rowling, Jill wrote: Hi all, I've been trying to get some Java apps to display with Mozilla but it's not happening. The system is x86 (Dell), Red Hat 8 distro, fairly vanilla. I've loaded the Sun Java run time (j2re-1.4.2_03-fcs as an RPM) which has installed itself OK. Mozilla is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830, build 2002083014 And has java enabled in preferences. I've added this to my .bashrc: JAVAHOME=/usr/java NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=$JAVAHOME/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns4 export JAVAHOME export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH These values are active: ls $NPX_PLUGIN_PATH libjavaplugin.so But when I run Mozilla to look at a java application, either on this machine (in the installed samples) or a remote machine's live application, Mozilla displays an icon like a jigsaw puzzle piece and an error popup like this: This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-vm) that can only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in Do I have to add all the java .so's to the Mime types (if so, which ones would be appropriate?) or do I also have to install the Java compilers etc.? Or is this version of Mozilla too old? (The remote java app is only partially viewable in Win2k/Citrix but that's a different problem; I figured if the local application doesn't work at all then there's something I have to fix. The local (to Linux) application is the Sun Java dashboard that comes with the RPM. It should at least load something.). Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG -
RE: [SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla
HTML? Sorry... Oops. Context-sensitive mail client seems to default to that at times when I cut paste things... I need to watch that. OK I have changed the $NPX_PLUGIN_PATH environment to be /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 to match `gcc -v`. I've read the docs but I think I'm missing something basic about where Moz puts its things. There seems to be several places for plugins to be registered, for example the Shockwave plugin (installed as an RPM) is generic for all users and is in the about plugins list whereas user-specified plugins are not; they are stored elsewhere. Also I thought Plugins did not need the user to specify a MIME type, and MIME types were not the same as filename extensions, but the Netscape documentation (to which the Moz AboutPlugins refers) suggests otherwise. I've put simlinks in to /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 in everywhere there is a plugins directory (this is just in case the env variable is not being read) but still no good. I might give it a break for a while and will come back to it later. And thanks, Stu for the other URL - I'll do some reading. Server-side stuff seems a lot easier than personal desktop stuff! Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Dave Airlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 December 2003 10:27 AM To: Rowling, Jill Cc: Sydney Linux User Group Subject: Re: [SLUG] Java Runtime and Mozilla please kill the HTML mail.. I wondered why it was 12k Anyhoo, ns4 is most certinaly the wrong directory I'm no sure with your java runtime what is correct it could be ns600 or ns610 or something like about:plugins in Mozilla is your friend :-) also if you are using RH8.0 the plugin will probably need to be compiled with gcc 3.2 so that might be in a separate dir as well.. Dave. -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] NetRegistry: December Newsletter
Title: NetRegistry e-newsletter: December 2003 :: DOMAIN NAMES :: EMAIL HOSTING :: WEB HOSTING :: E-COMMERCE :: SEARCH ENGINES :: APPLICATIONS :: e-newsletter December, 2003 FREECALL 1800 78 80 82 .:In This Issue Hosting Changes More On Spam .net.au Domain Promo [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:New Scripting Support in ThePromoter Our clients have been asking for the inclusion of scripting and database support in our lower priced web hosting packages. Towards the end of last month we decided to start including support for ASP, JSP, PHP and custom CGI along with database support for MS Access, MySQL and PostgreSQL. With this change you can now have support for these features for as little as $33 per month. Don't forget our red hot end of year deals on our web hosting products (more) Also this month in our 'Tech Corner' we explain in very basic terms what web sites are and how you go about getting pages onto the Internet (more) If you need more information about how NetRegistry can get your business online and what options are right for you, why not call one of our friendly sales staff today, on: 1800 78 80 82 .:More On Spam The Australian Government opens its war on spam. Read on to find out what this is all about. Remember, through Christmas all of our hosting packages includes free anti-spam and anti-virus protection (more). .:NET.AU Domain Promotion Originally, in the infancy of the domain addressing system there was an informal protocol that .com domains were to be used for commercial or business purposes and .net domains were for networks and the like. When the .au space was placed in the management of Robert Elz in the mid 1990's he modeled most of the .au space in the same way as the top level global domains were divided. This remained the status quo until around 12 months ago when the industry deregulated. The .au regulator and the Registry Operator have relaunched .net.au as a space that is no longer only for networks, but for Australian Technical Businesses, and 'all things tech' as a direct equivalent of the .com.au space. All of the same eligibility criteria apply for both spaces, the main difference is that there are currently around 10x the number of .com.au domain names as .net.au presently registered. You can find out more about the space from the .au Registry here This month as part of the industry relaunch of the space we have a special that will run through the end of January where pricing on .net.au domains will be set at $55 per two year registration period. Maybe you just want to protect your brand, or the name you want has already been registered in other domain spaces. Click here to go to our domain name page and take advantage of this great deal. .:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Support Update (more) Employment Opportunities (more) Holiday Trading Hours (more) Editors Section (more) Staff Profile: Tracey Barden, Domain Manager (more) .:The NetRegistry Privacy Policy This email has been sent to you because you are or have been a NetRegistry customer. NetRegistry adheres to the .au Domain Administration Code of Conduct and doesn't send bulk email to recipients who opt out. You are currently subscribed as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't wish to receive any further commercial or informational emails (e.g.: Newsletters) from NetRegistry, please follow this link: UNSUBSCRIBE -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NetRegistry: December Newsletter
Guys, I'm really sorry this was posted to the list. An error was made in me doing testing on a script. Humble apologies. Brett Fenton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 03:42:53PM +1100, Eddie F ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If the hardware isn't too different there may not be a problem, and it maybe just find all the hardware... I've found it's usually only a problem when moving between single and multi proccessor systems... ghost the disk first though, just in case. I've heard another way around it is to do an 'apgrade', if you have a W2K upgrade CD (eventhough it's already running W2K), and pull the disk out before it reboots. Then put it in the new system and watch it find all the hadware on it's 'first-boot' Never tried this myself though. I have been using and administrating winblows workstations for 10 years now. When I buy a new workstation (whatever hardware) I get the HD of the NEW workstation and put that as a slave into ANY of my current workstations, and boot to a special boot HD I have which has a simple WIN2000 on it (which I put into the system as well). I do this so I can access *ALL* files on the SOURCE workstation. I then boot into that simple WIN2000 boot partition. I then format and partition the NEW HD, use ROBOCOPY (resource kit) with /sec flag and copy all data from SOURCE workstation to the TARGET HD. Then I put the HD into the NEW workstation and let it boot, the only thing I do is to boot into VGA mode (you can do that in boot.ini with a flag). Then I install the dirvers for the Network card, display card and anthing else which is different, run NEWSID (www.sysinternals.com) and voila, I have a new system *WITH ALL OF MY SETUPS AND SOFTWARE* accessible. I have *NEVER EVER* had a failure in doing so, and would not go through any other way of doing it. The advantage is too: * you get the latest patches * you get the latest software updates * time saved People who say it doesnt work havent got a clue! It even works on NT. I have been proving it for years and boy I RARELY have BSOD'S! Just copy it, Voytek, you'll be just fine. And yes I hate M$, but for reasons too long to discuss here I need to use it for the client workstations, however I use LINUX and *ALL* my servers are LINUX. jobst -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] off topic: transferring W2K to a new system
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:26:28PM +1100, Simon Males ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Eddie F wrote: If the hardware isn't too different there may not be a problem, and it maybe just find all the hardware... I've found it's usually only a problem when moving between single and multi proccessor systems... ghost the disk first though, just in case. In my experience W2k cannot handle being away from its orginial system. Ie moving a hard drive into a completly new system. Similar hardware seems logical, I think mobo is the big one. Crap. ALL my winblows boxen are clones, I have not one machine in my company which ISNT cloned (the robocopy way, not ghost). jobst -- The email address in this email is used for Mailing Lists Only. Please reply ONLY to the list email address, do not reply to the email directly. People without trees are like fish without clean water! __, Jobst Schmalenbach, Technical Director _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L -(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NetRegistry: December Newsletter
thats ok, now adding netregistry.com.au to the .procmail filter recipes. merry xmas and happy hannukah.. Torquemada On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Brett Fenton wrote: Guys, I'm really sorry this was posted to the list. An error was made in me doing testing on a script. Humble apologies. Brett Fenton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Run-time error
Hi, I get the following error when trying to run one (a Visual Basic executable) of our laboratory information system applications, which have been written for Windows. Run-time error '458': Variable uses an Automation type not supported in Visual Basic I am using Red Hat Linux 9 and the Wine application to run windows applications. I have succesfully managed to install and run Word97 and Excel97 on this Red Hat Linux 9 machine. There is NO windows partition on this computer. Does anyone have any suggestions as to possible workarounds? I am definitely a novice when it comes to Linux, but I am very impressed with what I have seen at the moment. It would be a fantastic boost for our product if we can tell users that they can the entire application entirely on non-windows platform. We have tools that the database server runs succesfully on the Linux platform, but the GUI interface application only runs on Windows. Any ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Peter Lambros -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Run-time error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-12-2003 04:49:19 PM: Hi, I get the following error when trying to run one (a Visual Basic executable) of our laboratory information system applications, which have been written for Windows. Run-time error '458': Variable uses an Automation type not supported in Visual Basic --snip-- Any ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Are you using the cvs version of wine? Also have you tried installing the VB6 Runtime with wine? The chances of getting VB applications running on wine are not very good, I have the same problem, it falls over on installation of the ocx stuff. Cheers, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Run-time error
Peter Lambros wrote: Hi, I get the following error when trying to run one (a Visual Basic executable) of our laboratory information system applications, which have been written for Windows. Run-time error '458': Variable uses an Automation type not supported in Visual Basic I am using Red Hat Linux 9 and the Wine application to run windows applications. I have succesfully managed to install and run Word97 and Excel97 on this Red Hat Linux 9 machine. There is NO windows partition on this computer. Does anyone have any suggestions as to possible workarounds? I am definitely a novice when it comes to Linux, but I am very impressed with what I have seen at the moment. It would be a fantastic boost for our product if we can tell users that they can the entire application entirely on non-windows platform. We have tools that the database server runs succesfully on the Linux platform, but the GUI interface application only runs on Windows. Any ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm assuming you have the source for the application, but have you had a look at Mono? It's not going to allow you to just recompile the app, but if cross platform support is important, it might be worth a look at what it can do. Part of what's involved in that would be poting to VB.Net or C#, which may be useful for other reasons too. Felix -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
