[SLUG] E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)

2004-02-17 Thread Adam Bogacki
E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.


I'm seeing an awful lot of this error message at the moment.
It comes up whenever I try to 'apt-get update', 'apt-get remove', 'dselect'.
I have not been able to update or upgrade for 3-4 weeks
- a large backlog in unstable - and cannot remove or delete files.
I have tried replacing file 'status' with 'status-old', with no change.

Someone called 'No Spam' on debian-user asked me to send them a copy of 
'status'
promising to unearth a script they had used to fix a similar problem.

I did so, but have not heard from them since.

If anyone here can be of assistance I'll send them a copy, but am wary 
of posting
it to this list - too large ?

Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [SLUG] E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)

2004-02-17 Thread Patrick Lesslie
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 09:33:23PM +1300, Adam Bogacki wrote:
 E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
 E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
 
 I'm seeing an awful lot of this error message at the moment.
 It comes up whenever I try to 'apt-get update', 'apt-get remove', 'dselect'.

I saw this on debian-user:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200301/msg02664.html

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:43:46 +0100, Magnus Therning wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 11:31:14PM +0100, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
  This is definitely so called Dynamic MMap error, this week mentioned
  at least thrice in this list, find solution in archive.
  Hint: in your /etc/apt/apt.conf fill in: APT::Cache-Limit 25165824;
  that solves the problem.

 Wonderful. It took away all the badness :-) Any particular reason for
 the number?

 I suppose this will keep on hitting me every now and then as Debian
 grows ever bigger, anyone fixing it properly?

 There are two related bugs: 172777 172726

Patrick
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[SLUG] Re: [chat] Linux vs St George Internet Banking

2004-02-17 Thread Stewart
I can't speak for Linux desktop but whatever they've done fixed it so 
it now works 100% in Safari. :-)

(it didn't size the initial popup window right before.. but whether 
it's a fix their end or just the recent Safari 1.2 and java1.4.2 
upgrades my end i couldn't say..)

..S.

On 17 Feb 2004, at 6:28 PM, Andypoo wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I noticed a similar thread on an OS/2 ml, though, it seems, the person
in Q overcame the problem by fooling with user-agent strings (i think)
Hmm - this problem seems to be happening after we've already started 
into
Java, so I doubt the User-Agent will change a lot unfortunately :-(

Might have a bit of a play later on -- just to see.

Andypoo.
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Re: [SLUG] OSX Linux

2004-02-17 Thread Stewart
thanks to the many people who replied to my posting for help attaching 
OSX machines to a linux server... too many to reply to all individually 
sorry, but much useful information has been gleaned and a lot of google 
hits saved. :) I'll be writing the whole thing up when it's done and 
will let you know how i went.

..S.

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Re: [SLUG] Notebook WiFi Recommendations?

2004-02-17 Thread doug
I have a USB wifi from the wholesaler Protac. (available at various retailers 
for prob around $50) Anyway, I have just received an updated driver from the 
suppliers. The card is a WLB 1403. (I emailed the manufacturer, they sent the 
orig driver, then I thanked them:  they sent the new driver...pays to be 
polite!)
  If anyone wants the driver, (it is atmelwlandriver-ss-20040212.tar.gz) I 
could email it I guess, or it is probably googleable.

regards Doug

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 07:45 pm, Matthew Palmer wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 07:23:52PM +1100, James Gray wrote:
  I work.  So given the limited driver support under Linux what have people
  *had success* with?  I don't have mega-bucks to spend ($100-150 tops) and

 The older DWL-650 (prism chipset from memory) work, it's the 650+ that uses
 the dodgy military grade chipset.  I've used a 650 and they scream along.

 The Orinoco-chipset beasties, like most of the ones from Lucent/Agere work
 well (I've got an old 2Mb that works nicely).

 Seriously, I don't think that the driver issue is quite as nasty as people
 think.  One bonus of buying stuff for laptops is that you can bring your
 pre-built Linux kernel and machine along and try them out at a store
 somewhere.  Make notes of which ones work, then find somewhere cheap to get
 them from.  grin

 - Matt

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[SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread voytek
I often get emails with attachements that are to be placed on a web server;

I'm trying to avoid downloading over dial up to detach and ftp back to the
server...

the mail is in /Maildir structire

if I recall, pine was suggested as what I could use ?

I don't seem to be able to access the actual /Maildir:

-
  PINE 4.44   FOLDER LIST   Folder: sent-mail  No
Messages

INBOX  sent-mail  saved-messages
-
can pine use /Maildir ?

as an alternative, what tool can I run agianst the messge to simply detach
the attachements:

I've tried this

mmencode -u mailmssg -o my.pdf

but it doesn't seem to do what I need
.
--=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3F574.6F1A4570
Content-Type: application/pdf;
name=31st_isbc_brochure.pdf
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename=31st_isbc_brochure.pdf

.

thanks, Voytek
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Re: [SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 if I recall, pine was suggested as what I could use ?

 can pine use /Maildir ?

No. You should use mutt instead, for lots of reasons. :-)

- Jeff

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[SLUG] XMMS no sound problem

2004-02-17 Thread Jeff Ai
my xmms stopped working last nite after i upgraded it from 1.2.8 to 1.2.9
when i tried to play anything, it will freeze.
i am running Fedora Core 1 and using Gnome as my default desktop env.

then i uninstalled xmms and then reinstalled from the CD ROM xmms 1.2.8 
still didn't work.

all other sounds are working fine (realplayer, mplayer, system sounds 
etc.)  and esd is running.

and i checked /dev/dsp .. e.g. fuser /dev/dsp and nobody is using it.

any idea, what is going on?

thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Notebook WiFi Recommendations?

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:34:30AM +1100, doug wrote:
   If anyone wants the driver, (it is atmelwlandriver-ss-20040212.tar.gz) I 
 could email it I guess, or it is probably googleable.

The Atmel WLAN is, IIRC, a common chipset for those USB WiFi things.

For James, and anyone else who's interested, I couldn't get a DWL-650+, nor
those cheapo Spirit cards, to work under Linux today at DSE.  The PCMCIA
system wouldn't even identify them properly.  Beware!  Also, I've not been
able to get my old 2Mb WaveLAN to associate to my new D-Link AP - when they
say supports 802.11b and 802.11g they mean it - 802.11 apparently just
isn't on the list these days.  Bummer.


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Re: [SLUG] Press request: Legitimate uses of P2P

2004-02-17 Thread stuartc

  SLUG committee has had a reporter request the contact details of people
  who are making legitimate (by which I presume he means legal) use of P2P
  technologies. 

Hmmm sounds like a sting operation. 
All P2P is illegal; underground hackers want publicity (that's why they
go underground in the first place); trick them into showing off their
uses of P2P then arrest them. 

 However, BitTorrent really stands out as a great means for distribution of
 a single item, and has been used by a few distributions now I believe for
 distribution of their ISOs.

[large snip]

 Hmm, I really didn't mean to write that much -- bye now!

Yes Andypoo if your email had been much longer we would have needed
BitTorrent to get it in the first place :-)

Stuart.
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Re: [SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread Craig Ayliffe
Voytek,

You could try pinq - comes with pine.

It basically converts a maildir to mbox, and then loads it into pine.
Read the docs on it before using it tho.

(I can't comment on whether mutt would be better, having never tried it 
yet)

Cheers,

Craig A

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I often get emails with attachements that are to be placed on a web server;
 
 I'm trying to avoid downloading over dial up to detach and ftp back to the
 server...
 
 the mail is in /Maildir structire
 
 if I recall, pine was suggested as what I could use ?
 
 I don't seem to be able to access the actual /Maildir:
 
 -
   PINE 4.44   FOLDER LIST   Folder: sent-mail  No
 Messages
 
 INBOX  sent-mail  saved-messages
 -
 can pine use /Maildir ?
 
 as an alternative, what tool can I run agianst the messge to simply detach
 the attachements:
 
 I've tried this
 
 mmencode -u mailmssg -o my.pdf
 
 but it doesn't seem to do what I need
 .
 --=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3F574.6F1A4570
 Content-Type: application/pdf;
 name=31st_isbc_brochure.pdf
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename=31st_isbc_brochure.pdf
 
 .
 
 thanks, Voytek
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Re: [SLUG] FOSS in libraries

2004-02-17 Thread Ken Foskey
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 12:35, Phil Scarratt wrote:

 I have been spending the last six months working to get the first open 
 source or free software CDs available in libraries as lending CDs. I 
 have now succeeded; 415 public libraries out of a possible 507 have 
 accepted them in Scotland.

It was not quite that simple and guess what it was OpenOffice.org :-)

There is a definite market for a subscription service for updating these
CD's if a distributor was to take it on.  Might be a SLUG project.

-- 
Thanks
KenF
OpenOffice.org developer

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Re: [SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread Patrick Lesslie
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:38:29PM +1100, Craig Ayliffe wrote:

 On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  the mail is in /Maildir structire
  
  if I recall, pine was suggested as what I could use ?
  
  I don't seem to be able to access the actual /Maildir:

 You could try pinq - comes with pine.
 
 It basically converts a maildir to mbox, and then loads it into pine.
 Read the docs on it before using it tho.
 
 (I can't comment on whether mutt would be better, having never tried it 
 yet)

Some of the advantages of mutt (to which jeff alluded earlier),

* it can use Maildir (or mbox)
* it has a freer license, and it's in debian main
* it's more scriptable than pine
* it handles gpg without patching (I think you can patch pine)
* you can modify the keys to be just like pine ...
* you can set the editor to vim
* you can just make a big .muttrc and you are set
* Maildir and procmail work well together procmail
* (example) you can edit an mbox file with mutt -f mbox

Pine on the other hand also has some advantages,

* the license is more restrictive, and you get to download source only
  (though there are binary backports)
* you get to compile it, e.g. when you want to add pgp support
* it is quite easy to use from information on the screen 
* you don't have to find out how to make it use Maildir
  (mutt uses environment vars or the .muttrc for this)
* you can play with pine settings from within pine
* you don't need procmail to split mailing lists into folders
* I used it for ages, and the keys got stuck in my fingers

Patrick
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[SLUG] st george bank broken

2004-02-17 Thread linley
For some reason I can't get St george bank java applet to load. Been
working fine for a  year.
cleared cache, cookies , java cahe etc. Java seems
running RH8 java 1.4.2, Mozilla/firebird  0.7 or Mozilla 1.5
console log:
Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2_01
Using JRE version 1.4.2_01 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = /home/linley
Proxy Configuration: Manual Configuration
Proxy:
Proxy Overrides:

c:   clear console window
f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
g:   garbage collect
h:   display this help message
l:   dump classloader list
m:   print memory usage
o:   trigger logging
p:   reload proxy configuration
q:   hide console
r:   reload policy configuration
s:   dump system properties
t:   dump thread list
v:   dump thread stack
x:   clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to n

sun.plugin.cache.DownloadException
   at sun.plugin.cache.CachedFileLoader.load(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin.cache.FileCache.get(Unknown Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.PluginDelegateHttpsURLConnection.connectWithCache(Unknown 

Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.PluginDelegateHttpsURLConnection.connect(Unknown
Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.PluginDelegateHttpsURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown 

Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsURLConnectionImpl.getResponseCode(Unknown
Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
sun.plugin.cache.DownloadException
   at sun.plugin.cache.CachedFileLoader.load(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin.cache.FileCache.get(Unknown Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.PluginDelegateHttpsURLConnection.connectWithCache(Unknown 

Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.PluginDelegateHttpsURLConnection.connect(Unknown
Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.PluginDelegateHttpsURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown 

Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at
sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsURLConnectionImpl.getResponseCode(Unknown
Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
load: class stGeorge.gui.BBB.class not found.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: stGeorge.gui.BBB.class
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)
   at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.io.IOException: open HTTP connection failed.
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   ... 10 more
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: stGeorge.gui.BBB.class
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at 

Don't rely on WEP for security (was: Re: [SLUG] Notebook WiFi Recommendations?)

2004-02-17 Thread slug
James Gray wrote:

Last weekend I lashed out and bought myself a new toy: A Netcomm 802.11g/b 
access point (supoprts both standards and 128bit WEP too) :)  I also 

It's not quite on-topic but since you mention 128bit WEP - you might 
want to read
the following:

http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html

The bottom line: We recommend that anyone using an 802.11 wireless 
network not
rely on WEP for security (this includes 128 bit WEP).

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] st george bank broken

2004-02-17 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004, linley wrote:
 For some reason I can't get St george bank java applet to load. Been
 working fine for a  year.

Nobody has confirmed with St George yet that we know of, but it looks
like they broke compatibility with Mozilla browsers over the weekend --
although there is apparently now Safari compatibility.

It is probably worth complaining to them, but I don't think they ever
officially supported Mozilla or non-Microsoft JVMs. Which makes you
wonder why they use Java at all...

If it's not working within a few weeks, I'll probaly switch banks. I'm
sure this has been asked before, but are there any who *officially*
support Mozilla (or, even better, are committed to general cross-broswer
compatibility or supporting standards) or is it simply the case that a
whole bunch happen to work on Mozilla?

-Mary
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Re: [SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread David


On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:

 quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  if I recall, pine was suggested as what I could use ?

  can pine use /Maildir ?

 No. You should use mutt instead, for lots of reasons. :-)

Speaking as a dedicated pine user, that sounds like blind prejudice! At
the risk of starting a mail client war, could you elucidate the reasons?
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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and GPG

2004-02-17 Thread Alexander Samad
Found it in the doco, what a place to put it in.
added to gpg.conf 
encrypt-to


On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 06:54:11PM +1100, Alexander Samad wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have setup mutt to automatically save outboudn messages in a sent item
 folder, my last step is if I encrypt a message how do I automatically
 add my own key to the encryption ?
 
 Alex
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Re: Don't rely on WEP for security (was: Re: [SLUG] Notebook WiFi Recommendations?)

2004-02-17 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 03:32 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James Gray wrote:
 Last weekend I lashed out and bought myself a new toy: A Netcomm
  802.11g/b access point (supoprts both standards and 128bit WEP too) :) 
  I also

 It's not quite on-topic but since you mention 128bit WEP - you might
 want to read
 the following:

 http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html

 The bottom line: We recommend that anyone using an 802.11 wireless
 network not
 rely on WEP for security (this includes 128 bit WEP).

 Cheers,

 --Amos

Thanks for the link - interesting read.  I am aware of the limitations (even 
more so now) of WEP and agree with your sentiments that WEP alone is 
insufficient.  I've done pretty much everything I can think of without 
going the full IPsec route.  Here's what I've done:
- 128bit WEP
- Access point in own DMZ (and all WiFi devices on different subnet)
- MAC level access control (on MAC's on the list can use the AP)
- Using a randomly generated SSID

As this is my first foray into the wonderful world of wireless 
administration I am happy to hear any suggestions to improve security :)

James
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Re: [SLUG] FOSS in libraries

2004-02-17 Thread Michael Lake
Ken Foskey wrote:

 On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 12:35, Phil Scarratt wrote:
I have been spending the last six months working to get the first open 
source or free software CDs available in libraries as lending CDs. I 
have now succeeded; 415 public libraries out of a possible 507 have 
accepted them in Scotland.

 It was not quite that simple and guess what it was OpenOffice.org :-)
 There is a definite market for a subscription service for updating these
 CD's if a distributor was to take it on.  Might be a SLUG project.

What would be nice would be a jukebox/vending machine like thing in
libraries. In its most basic use you could go up to it and from the 
screen select what open source software you want and it will burn it 
onto CD/DVD on-the-spot. It will always have access to the most 
up-to-date version as it would mirror or pull down the files from aarnet 
or pacfic.net.au etc when needed.

But it can be a pain to stand in front of a machine and select 500 MB of 
software for a CD so it also has in it a web server. From any PC in the 
library you could view the web page and select the software that you 
want. Then wander over to the machine and pickup your CD.

The business model is that it charges $10.00 for the CD and $20 for a 
DVD. Many libraries have the bandwidth for such a machine to keep 
up-to-date and the environment where the machine wont be abused.
Still making a machine like that aint cheap :-(
(Naturally it runs Debian internally)

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Re: [SLUG] st george bank broken

2004-02-17 Thread Peter Hardy
Mary Gardiner wrote:
If it's not working within a few weeks, I'll probaly switch banks. I'm
sure this has been asked before, but are there any who *officially*
support Mozilla (or, even better, are committed to general cross-broswer
compatibility or supporting standards) or is it simply the case that a
whole bunch happen to work on Mozilla?
Commonwealth officially support IE and Netscape (*shudder*), but their 
support pages make no mention of mozilla.
http://www.commbank.com.au/NetBank/Support/TBC-FAQ.htm#need

http://www.commbank.com.au/NetBank/Support/default.asp?m=GeneralNonWindowsUsers 
is also worth reading.

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Re: [SLUG] st george bank broken

2004-02-17 Thread Benno
On Wed Feb 18, 2004 at 09:55:50 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote:
Mary Gardiner wrote:
If it's not working within a few weeks, I'll probaly switch banks. I'm
sure this has been asked before, but are there any who *officially*
support Mozilla (or, even better, are committed to general cross-broswer
compatibility or supporting standards) or is it simply the case that a
whole bunch happen to work on Mozilla?

Commonwealth officially support IE and Netscape (*shudder*), but their 
support pages make no mention of mozilla.
http://www.commbank.com.au/NetBank/Support/TBC-FAQ.htm#need

http://www.commbank.com.au/NetBank/Support/default.asp?m=GeneralNonWindowsUsers 
is also worth reading.

FWIW Commbank works fine for me (using any gecko based browser), and I
don't have a JVM installed.

Benno
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Re: [SLUG] st george bank broken

2004-02-17 Thread Phil Scarratt
Benno wrote:
On Wed Feb 18, 2004 at 09:55:50 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote:

Mary Gardiner wrote:

If it's not working within a few weeks, I'll probaly switch banks. I'm
sure this has been asked before, but are there any who *officially*
support Mozilla (or, even better, are committed to general cross-broswer
compatibility or supporting standards) or is it simply the case that a
whole bunch happen to work on Mozilla?
Commonwealth officially support IE and Netscape (*shudder*), but their 
support pages make no mention of mozilla.
http://www.commbank.com.au/NetBank/Support/TBC-FAQ.htm#need

http://www.commbank.com.au/NetBank/Support/default.asp?m=GeneralNonWindowsUsers 
is also worth reading.


FWIW Commbank works fine for me (using any gecko based browser), and I
don't have a JVM installed.
I think it's been mentioned before - CBA NetBank uses Java for adds only 
- you don't lose any functionality by disabling Java.

Fil
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[SLUG] ACS OpenSource SIG

2004-02-17 Thread Bruce Badger
The slides for the last ACSOSS meeting on open source and the law are
now available here, together with slides from a couple of previous talks
(Gus on EmbPerl and Rob on Squid):
http://openskills.com/acsoss/

At the next meeting Rob Collins will be telling us about Arch
Thursday 26th Feb @ 18:00
Lv 4, 122 Castlereagh Street

SIG home page: http://www.acs.org.au/nsw/sigs/opensource/index.html
Register for talk: http://www.acs.org.au/nsw/

All the best,
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Re: [SLUG] st george bank broken

2004-02-17 Thread Chris Deigan
It is said that Benno wrote:
FWIW Commbank works fine for me (using any gecko based browser), and I
don't have a JVM installed.

Commbank uses plain HTML and JavaScript.
That's the only real requirements I can see.

The java applet only shows advertisments (odd to employ Java for showing
banner advertisments, IMO)

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[SLUG] Reminder: February DebSIG

2004-02-17 Thread Craige McWhirter
See you there!

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 Subject: February DebSIG
 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:31:02 +1100
 
 When:
 Wednesday, February 18, 7:00pm - 8:00pm
 
 Where:
 James Squire Brewery
 
 Debian SIG has a brand new home at The James Squire Brewery on the King
 St Wharf at Darling Harbour. The facility features a large boardroom,
 presentation equipment, internet access, food and drinks. This will
 probably become our permanent home for normal meetings. 
 
 This month Jeff Waugh takes his experience from the GNOME release
 process and applies it to Debian, with a coat hanger.
 
 Along with the usual free-form discussions / debates that will precede
 and follow this talk, food, drink and internet access are available and
 people generally start wandering in from 18:30 for a good 'ol chin wag.
 
 For more detailed information, maps, RSS feeds and the like, head here:
 
 http://debian.slug.org.au/
 
 See you all there!
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Re: [SLUG] Press request: Legitimate uses of P2P

2004-02-17 Thread Eddie F
Hmmm sounds like a sting operation.
Yes it does, doesn't it?

All P2P is illegal;...
Well... Probably close to all... but not all.
I have seen (and even skimmed one) articles on the use of P2P to share 
documents and media files. This is within the organization that owns said 
documents, media files, and the itellectual properly within. It's a niche 
market! Think I saw these articles in;
IDM - Image Data Manager - http://idm.net.au


underground hackers want publicity (that's why they
go underground in the first place); trick them into showing off their
uses of P2P then arrest them.
[large snip]
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Re: [SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 00:38, Patrick Lesslie wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:38:29PM +1100, Craig Ayliffe wrote:
 
  On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   the mail is in /Maildir structire
   
   if I recall, pine was suggested as what I could use ?
   
   I don't seem to be able to access the actual /Maildir:

pine doesn't 'do' maildir. It's intended to be used with an imap server
(uw-imap is what they recommend). If you want to get to your maildirs,
another option (assuming you don't want to change mail clients) is to
run courier-imap or dovecot or something on your server and configure
pine to get your mail out of imap. I'd recommend not using mbox, Maildir
is a lot faster. If you were crazy, you could theoretically index an
mbox to go as fast as Maildir, but since that code is already in your
filesystem, no-one has bothered, and I don't blame them.

 Some of the advantages of mutt (to which jeff alluded earlier),

 * you can set the editor to vim

you can do that with pine as well.

 * you can just make a big .muttrc and you are set

Pine also has this notion of configuration files. They're somewhat
ubiquitous these days.

 * Maildir and procmail work well together procmail

That's completely orthogonal.

[...]

Pine is less powerful than mutt, but it's also less complicated (and
zealots reliably inform me that mutt is more better in many other ways).
I quite like pine, used it all through my university days.

Anyway, this is not answering the original question. I can only suggest
installing an imap server so you can get pine to read your maildirs.

HTH,

James.


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Re: [SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread lists
  if I recall, pine was suggested as what I could use ?

  can pine use /Maildir ?

 No. You should use mutt instead, for lots of reasons. :-)

 Speaking as a dedicated pine user, that sounds like blind prejudice! At

ahem, this is getting too hard for what i'm trying to achieve...

what sort of command line un-mime can I run against the /Maildir message
file to simply detach the attachements ?
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Re: [SLUG] detaching files over ssh from mail: pine ?

2004-02-17 Thread Patrick Lesslie
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 12:00:30PM +1100, James Gregory wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 00:38, Patrick Lesslie wrote:
  * you can set the editor to vim
 
 you can do that with pine as well.
 
Heh, thought flew by at the time about doing my homework :-)

  * you can just make a big .muttrc and you are set
 
 Pine also has this notion of configuration files. They're somewhat
 ubiquitous these days.
 
Yes.  I was thinking that with mutt you don't have much choice
but to directly use the config file.

  * Maildir and procmail work well together procmail
 
 That's completely orthogonal.
 
True.  But the redundant procmail in my line is parallel ;-)
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[SLUG] yum

2004-02-17 Thread Del
Does anyone know what's involved in setting up a yum
repository?  I was thinking of creating one behind a
firewall for a bunch of machines that are similarly
behind the same firewall.
Thanx,

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Re: [SLUG] yum

2004-02-17 Thread Mike MacCana
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Del wrote:


 Does anyone know what's involved in setting up a yum
 repository?

Yeah, you serve the files out via http or ftp, and run a little script to
generate the .hdr files that yum uses.

http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO/yum_HOWTO-6.html

If you can't be arsed installing the yum client, Fedora and RHEL3s
up2date program can use yum servers (and, in Fedora's case, do by default).

Mike



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