[SLUG] Goonellabah Linux User's Group
Its such a pity that the penguin is a flightless bird but this is a call for interested people of the Sydney Linux Community to spread their wings and fly north for the start of Winter. The Goonellabah Linux User's Group or GLUG (http://glug.dyndns.org/ ) in the Northern Rivers Region (LISMORE) have put the word out that they would like to meet some of the Sydney Linux community. This is a good opportunity to share skills, make contacts, give how-to's talks, show off cool hardware with eye candy and whatever! Now at this stage, this trip will occur on the weekend of the 22nd and 23rd of May 2004. Transport: Depending on the numbers, REX does have discounts for group bookings of 10 passengers, 50% off the full economy airfare. More people, the better discount. 22 May 04 ZL231 Depart Sydney 7.00am Arrive Ballina 8.35am 23 May 04 ZL238 Depart Ballina 6.15pm Arrive Sydney 7.55pm Dates to remember: Friday 2nd April final confirmation of SLUGGERS who are flying up and Friday 16th April final payment of the flight. Accommodation: They may be billeting opportunities, or depending once again group discount booking at a local Hotel, depending on numbers and SLUGGER's choice. This depends on who is willing spend time out of their comfort zone here in Sydney. So far three people in Sydney have expressed interest, so if you interested in showing off your FOSS skills, email me. Craig __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Call for speakers: SLUG meetings
Hey folks, If you've got something (project, call to arms, news) you think is worth sharing with the SLUG community, we'd love to have you come and speak at one of our monthly meetings. It would be especially good to have some people volunteer to give SLUGlets-style tutorials at the meetings: an attendee driven, informal, interactive tutorial. However, as always, we need speakers for the opening (general) slot and the special interest slot. See our Call For Participation http://www.slug.org.au/cfp.html and meeting guide http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/ and let [EMAIL PROTECTED] know if you have a talk offer. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [activities] Call for speakers: SLUG meetings
quote who=Mary Gardiner If you've got something (project, call to arms, news) you think is worth sharing with the SLUG community, we'd love to have you come and speak at one of our monthly meetings. I know I'm up for a talk in March, but I still have a Postfix talk busting to get out. If you have a list of potentials, pop it down, but I'd need some notice. Thanks, - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ So please lets focus on preparing to beat up our neighbours instead of spending all the energy on domestic violence. - Christian Schaller on GNOME -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] accessing MS desktops from Linux
* David Uzzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are going to run Terminal Services you could use rdesktop which * Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try rdesktop - assuming you have Terminal Services. The negative of * Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Citrix Metaframe at work. Most users of the Citrix system use a small Wyse thin client, which is WinCE running in Flash -- it sometimes crashes as you might expect. * Brendan Dacre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This does not answer your question directly, but there was a competitor to Metaframe being developed by the old SCO called Tarantella. You set up a Tarantella server (which could be on Linux) * Craige McWhirter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll chime in on the chorus for rdesktop. We use it extensively here and it works great. * Grant Parnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 (5 users $882.75) plus 5 licenses for (Win95, Win95OSR2, Win98, Win98se, Windows ME). IE no additional CAL's. * Kevin Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heres a little twist. I use RH9 (Fedora now) and Ximian Desktop 2. In * Ron Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have dipped our toes in this water and can report the following : Application : Remote access to windows dependant applications for 12 users across IP Wan. Thanks heaps guys for all your replies - I've now got a bit of research to do ;-) Out of interest, I've already started my email migration - went from each user running their own version of Outhouse/Outhouse Express (nightmare) to Mozilla Thunderbird + IMAP thru to BincIMAP/ Qmail/ getmail - works a treat. They're still on Windows, but small budget so one step at a time; only issues I've had are with weird mail send dates on one very old machine - I'm thinking non Y2K BIOS. Anyway, I was poking around on http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/ today, came across a link to an article on http://www.flux.org/ called 'Exchange Killer Slides' about providing equivalent functionality using GPL s/w - some very interesting ideas. Check it out. -- Sonia| Los principios elementales que animan .| al Proyecto se vinculan a las garantías GNU/Linux| básicas de un Estado democrático de derecho. Software Libre | Carta del DR. VILLANUEVA NUÑEZ. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] AOL SUCKS
Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:45 PM Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This is the Postfix program at host dalston.blackshaw.dyn.dhs.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mailin-03.mx.aol.com[205.188.159.249] said: 554-: (DNS:B1) AOL has determined that you are connecting directly to our mail servers from a residential or dynamic IP. AOL onG'8xccepID=22b403c8ad91bb 554 TRANSACTION FAILED -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
quote who=Jeff Allison Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, blocking SMTP connections from hosts determined to be dynamic or otherwise impermanent (residential, yada). - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ We're kind of like Canada, only we hate ourselves more, and it's wetter around the edges. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
It is said that Jeff Waugh wrote: Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, blocking SMTP connections from hosts determined to be dynamic or otherwise impermanent (residential, yada). AOL is not the only one I've seen block such messages, and I won't deny that it is a fairly legitamit way of blocking most virii spam. - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] About shares/ASX
Is anybody interested in stocks, are actively trading shares, or have existing stock portfolios here ? I'm interested in the performance people are getting, tips or recommended stocks, your views, ideas and opinions and any investment advice. I wish I bought some shares when I was using Rh 5.1 :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] About shares/ASX
quote who=Minh Van Le Is anybody interested in stocks, are actively trading shares, or have existing stock portfolios here ? I'm interested in the performance people are getting, tips or recommended stocks, your views, ideas and opinions and any investment advice. I wish I bought some shares when I was using Rh 5.1 :) And here is your thorough redirection to slug-chat. Wy off topic! - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ The Unix Way: Everything is a file. The Linux Way: Everything is a filesystem. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On 25 Feb 2004, at 11:00 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Jeff Allison Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, blocking SMTP connections from hosts determined to be dynamic or otherwise impermanent (residential, yada). They're also blocking ISP's relays unfortunately. not sure if it's been fixed yet but as of last week anyone using smtp.pacific.net.au couldn't get through to aol either. i do my best for my clients but sadly i can't get /their/ clients to not use AOL. ;-) ..S. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Goonellabah Linux User's Group
I'm still in. On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 21:27, Craig wrote: Its such a pity that the penguin is a flightless bird but this is a call for interested people of the Sydney Linux Community to spread their wings and fly north for the start of Winter. The Goonellabah Linux User's Group or GLUG (http://glug.dyndns.org/ ) in the Northern Rivers Region (LISMORE) have put the word out that they would like to meet some of the Sydney Linux community. This is a good opportunity to share skills, make contacts, give how-to's talks, show off cool hardware with eye candy and whatever! Now at this stage, this trip will occur on the weekend of the 22nd and 23rd of May 2004. Transport: Depending on the numbers, REX does have discounts for group bookings of 10 passengers, 50% off the full economy airfare. More people, the better discount. 22 May 04 ZL231 Depart Sydney 7.00am Arrive Ballina 8.35am 23 May 04 ZL238 Depart Ballina 6.15pm Arrive Sydney 7.55pm Dates to remember: Friday 2nd April final confirmation of SLUGGERS who are flying up and Friday 16th April final payment of the flight. Accommodation: They may be billeting opportunities, or depending once again group discount booking at a local Hotel, depending on numbers and SLUGGER's choice. This depends on who is willing spend time out of their comfort zone here in Sydney. So far three people in Sydney have expressed interest, so if you interested in showing off your FOSS skills, email me. Craig __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Announcements List - http://slug.org.au More info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/announce -- Cheers, Craige. GPG Key fingerprint = C206 904F 5231 2F2E 8DAA F094 5879 71B5 0960 CF37 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Goonellabah Linux User's Group
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:57, Craige McWhirter wrote: I'm still in. (stoopid announce list reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] setting and my lazy 1:00am eyes) -- Cheers, Craige. o/~ I'm going to die with a twinkle in my eye 'cause I sung songs spun stories loved laughed and drank wine o/~ - The Cat Empire signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 25/02/2004 at 10:56 PM Jeff Allison wrote: Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 -- Int. +61 418 292020 Available for Global Contracts US Fax -- 801 740 2874 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Home Wireless
The givens: 1) I'm a know-nothing idiot/goose/n00b. 2) A computer attached to broadband that dual boots but usually runs some proprietary OS, and is switched off when not actually in use. 3) Another computer that runs nothing but Free software ( Nvidia driver badness) 4) Don't want wires between rooms. Is this do-able (esp given #1)? Do I need to get hold of an old box to be on permanently and act as firewall/router so other boxes can be switched on off at will? Has someone done it and blah-whatever is some hardware they used that worked well? I've seen Netgear wireless stuff (router card) for sale at a bookstore(!) for c. $200 Yes, I've read all sorts of stuff on the net in mags pocketbooks but I'm too thick to get the 'big picture' before embarking on the project. Thanks all. Hal -- ___ Get your free email from http://www.iname.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian RC Bug Squish / Code Fest
When: Saturday, March 13, 10:00am - 6:00pm Where: Sydney Uni To do our bit to bring the next Debian release closer to fruition, we're holding a Debian RC Bug Squish and Code Fest. The idea of of the day is to have a social, coding day, learn a few things and close some Debian RC Bugs, for which we will be having prizes etc for a variety of achievements such as closing the most bugs, closing the most difficult bug, closing the most important bug. The winners will be chosen by those attending the day. Food and drink will be organised throughout the day and dinner be held afterwards at a venue decided on by the participants. For more information on Debian RC (release critical) bugs, head to the DebSIG website http://debian.slug.org.au/ and key on there for updates, detailed location information, maps and other news relating to this event. See you all there! -- Cheers, Craige. o/~ I'm going to die with a twinkle in my eye 'cause I sung songs spun stories loved laughed and drank wine o/~ - The Cat Empire signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home Wireless
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:56, Hal Ashburner wrote: Has someone done it and blah-whatever is some hardware they used that worked well? I've seen Netgear wireless stuff (router card) for sale at a bookstore(!) for c. $200 Does this mean you're unwilling to buy a gateway/router? That's the simplest solution. Else: Base computer with firewall software (you want this bad) and ethernet in card and... another ethernet out card in the base computer for each other PC wired to the base computer or... one ethernet out card in the base computer plus a hub for other PCs wired to the base computer and... a wireless card in ad-hoc mode for the base computer and... another wireless card for each other connecting PC So, a base computer with ethernet in, and a minimum of two wifi cards to use one satellite computer. Which configuration do you choose? (That is, what have you got, or are willing to buy?) Bret -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. What ?!?! If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit without having to ring my phone companies switchboard. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 07:14, Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. What ?!?! If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit without having to ring my phone companies switchboard. Yes, but you get to pay for the circuit, not your friend. Rob -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. - Scott Granneman, SecurityFocus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 07:27, Howard Lowndes wrote: If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit without having to ring my phone companies switchboard. Yes, but you get to pay for the circuit, not your friend. If my friend is out of the house, with call forwarding, then thats not true - we both have to pay. Also, Pacific Internet, for example, only charge on the greater of in | out traffic down your link. Lastly, your friend does pay a retainer to their phone company for the privilege of receiving calls. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. Sorry Greg I disagree with you. If you have a legit mail server with correct DNS entries then I can not see AOHells justification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Jeff Allison wrote: Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:45 PM Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This is the Postfix program at host dalston.blackshaw.dyn.dhs.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mailin-03.mx.aol.com[205.188.159.249] said: 554-: (DNS:B1) AOL has determined that you are connecting directly to our mail servers from a residential or dynamic IP. AOL onG'8xccepID=22b403c8ad91bb 554 TRANSACTION FAILED It's commonplace these days for mail administrators to use RBL checks on inbound commections. One of the RBL lists has a heading for dial-up blocks, or IP's which are dynamically assigned to dial up clients, or dynamic allocation IP addresses - which means that if the email *is* spam, it can't necessarily be tracked effectively. My mail server does exactly what AOL's does - denies the connection. A work around is to relay your outbound mail through your ISP's legitimate mail server - that way, AOL will see it coming from a non-dynamic IP, and accept the message. This, of course, depends on your ISP allowing you to relay through it. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home Wireless
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Hal Ashburner wrote:
The givens:
1) I'm a know-nothing idiot/goose/n00b.
2) A computer attached to broadband that dual boots but usually runs some
proprietary OS, and is switched off when not actually in use.
3) Another computer that runs nothing but Free software ( Nvidia driver badness)
4) Don't want wires between rooms.
Is this do-able (esp given #1)?
Do I need to get hold of an old box to be on permanently and act as firewall/router
so other boxes can be switched on off at will?
Has someone done it and blah-whatever is some hardware they used that worked well?
I've seen Netgear wireless stuff (router card) for sale at a bookstore(!) for c.
$200
Yes, I've read all sorts of stuff on the net in mags pocketbooks but I'm too
thick to get the 'big picture' before embarking on the project.
I've used Netgear wireless - specifically the FWAG114 firewall/router
WAG311 card - and they'll do exactly what you want.
Not sure if the card has a driver for Linux, but _any_ 802.11 card should
talk OK to the Netgear router once it's up and installed - just find one
which has a Linux driver for the machine with the free OS on it.
Built in firewall, built in DHCP etc etc - not that I use them {have a
much larger commercial grade firewall and DHCP servers}.
My boss does exactly what you want, at home, on his broadband connection.
No huhu.
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Robert Collins wrote:
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote:
Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out
mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking.
What ?!?!
If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit without having to ring my
phone companies switchboard.
Yes, but your originating phone number doesn't change every time you make
a phone call, does it?
With a dynamic IP, your originating IP address _can_ {not necessarily
does, although on dialup it's almost a given} every time you connect.
Just to carry on your analogy, and I'm shutting up now because this is
*way* OT.
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:35, Stewart wrote: On 25 Feb 2004, at 11:00 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Jeff Allison Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, blocking SMTP connections from hosts determined to be dynamic or otherwise impermanent (residential, yada). They're also blocking ISP's relays unfortunately. not sure if it's been fixed yet but as of last week anyone using smtp.pacific.net.au couldn't get through to aol either. i do my best for my clients but sadly i can't get /their/ clients to not use AOL. ;-) Earlier this year they blocked all Optus stuff for some reason or another. They are known to be very bloody-minded. Alan ..S. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SSL PDF
Is there any way of getting an application/pdf across an SSL (port 443) connection so that it gets displayed by the browser's helper, or has it got to be an exposed connection (port 80) Server is Apache 2 Browser is any thing reasonable (even IE) -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. - Scott Granneman, SecurityFocus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SSL PDF
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 08:51, Howard Lowndes wrote: Is there any way of getting an application/pdf across an SSL (port 443) connection so that it gets displayed by the browser's helper, or has it got to be an exposed connection (port 80) The socket used to transfer the file is entirely orthogonal to what the browser does when it receives it. For example, you see images served over ssl all the time. So yes is the answer to your question. Just provide an SSL link to it on your page. HTH, James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Can't uninstall Debian nvidia drivers: package in very bad inconsistent state
Hey folks, I'm trying to either upgrade an nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 Debian package or get rid of it. The existing package is 1.0.4496-2 and I built it against the kernel-headers-2.4.24-1-686 headers using the nvidia-kernel-source scripts (debian/rules binary_modules). Debian is now distributing nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.5336+1 (presumably in non-free) and I'm trying to upgrade. I can't upgrade, remove or reinstall this pacakge (see full errors below). The major problem seems to be in the post-removal script: cat: alsa: No such file or directory The closest Google match I can find is http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg81130.html and I've made sure /etc/modutils/alsa exists on my system. I know I can tell dpkg to force the removal of the package even though a reinstall is recommended (although... maybe it will try running the post-remove again!), but I want to know if there's a cleaner way out of this. I've also tried strace-ing the dpkg processes to find out which particular 'alsa' file it is seeking, all strace lines looking for 'alsa' are at the end of the mail -- I don't really know how to read strace output :( --- Error messages --- Error when attempting upgrade: # dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.5336+1_i386.deb (Reading database ... 106541 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 1.0.4496-2 (using nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.5336+1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 ... cat: alsa: No such file or directory dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... cat: alsa: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.5336+1_i386.deb (--install): subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1 cat: alsa: No such file or directory dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.5336+1_i386.deb Error when removing existing package: # dpkg --purge remove nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove remove which isn't installed. dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 (--purge): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 Error when reinstalling original .deb file: # dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.4496-2_i386.deb Selecting previously deselected package nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686. (Reading database ... 106541 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 1.0.4496-2 (using nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.4496-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 ... cat: alsa: No such file or directory dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... cat: alsa: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.4496-2_i386.deb (--install): subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1 cat: alsa: No such file or directory dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: --- strace mentions of alsa --- open(/var/lib/dpkg/info/gstreamer-alsa.list, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 7 open(/var/lib/dpkg/info/vlc-plugin-alsa.list, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 7 open(/var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome-alsamixer.list, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 7 open(/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-utils.list, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 7 read(7, /.\n/usr\n/usr/sbin\n/usr/sbin/alsa..., 826) = 826 open(/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-source.list, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 7 read(7, /.\n/usr\n/usr/src\n/usr/src/alsa-d..., 340) = 340 open(/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.list, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 7 waitpid(577, cat: alsa: No such file or directory waitpid(667, cat: alsa: No such file or directory waitpid(747, cat: alsa: No such file or directory write(7, | libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2.29-1), l..., 8192) = 8192 write(7, put\nConflicts: alsaplayer-oss (..., 8192) = 8192 write(7, | libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2.22-4), li..., 8192) = 8192 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Can't uninstall Debian nvidia drivers: package in very bad inconsistent state
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: # dpkg --purge remove nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove remove which isn't installed. Heh, classy. I assure you that the below errors still occur when I *don't* mix up apt and dpkg arguments and also if I pass --remove rather than --purge: dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 (--purge): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:14:13AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. What ?!?! If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit without having to ring my phone companies switchboard. Well, technically you get a real circuit (non-virtual), and your call passes through telco switch(es), which are automatic these days. You don't have a copper pair going straight from you to your friend :). -- Jon Teh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:17, Jon Teh wrote: Well, technically you get a real circuit (non-virtual), and your call passes through telco switch(es), which are automatic these days. You don't have a copper pair going straight from you to your friend :). -- Jon Teh well not to my house I'm on a RIM so theres fibre involved somewhere -- Regards -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] MOB 0410 502 702 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:28:10AM +1100, Jeff Allison wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:17, Jon Teh wrote: Well, technically you get a real circuit (non-virtual), and your call passes through telco switch(es), which are automatic these days. You don't have a copper pair going straight from you to your friend :). -- Jon Teh well not to my house I'm on a RIM so theres fibre involved somewhere That's still considered a real circuit however, even if your call goes via TDMA on the way to the exchange. Inter exchange circuits are fibre these days all running PCM over TDMA. -- Jon Teh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Can't uninstall Debian nvidia drivers: package in very bad inconsistent state
whats in /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686.postrm that should be where it is bombing out. On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:19:12AM +1100, Mary Gardiner wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: # dpkg --purge remove nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove remove which isn't installed. Heh, classy. I assure you that the below errors still occur when I *don't* mix up apt and dpkg arguments and also if I pass --remove rather than --purge: dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 (--purge): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:31, Jon Teh wrote: That's still considered a real circuit however, even if your call goes via TDMA on the way to the exchange. Inter exchange circuits are fibre these days all running PCM over TDMA. -- Jon Teh I had one of those but the wheels fell off :/ -- Regards -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] MOB 0410 502 702 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Can't uninstall Debian nvidia drivers: package in very bad inconsistent state
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004, Alexander Samad wrote: whats in /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686.postrm that should be where it is bombing out. #!/bin/sh if [ -x /sbin/update-modules ]; then update-modules /dev/null fi This is looking very much like http://bugs.debian.org/232125 (I'm booted into a 2.6 kernel, although I still have a .24 kernel installed) I can change update-modules to update-modules.modutils as per that bug... but then the *post-install* scripts won't run. More changes I guess. *sigh* -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Can't uninstall Debian nvidia drivers: package in very bad inconsistent state
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: I can change update-modules to update-modules.modutils as per that bug... but then the *post-install* scripts won't run. More changes I guess. For the archives, the complete sequence of steps was: 1. Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686.postrm so that every occurence of update-modules reads update-modules.modutils 2. dpkg -i [original deb] Although the new deb would probably work just as well. I can't do a straight purge or remove because of the very bad inconsistent state thing. 3. dpkg dies during the reinstall after successfully removing the package. 4. Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686.postinst so that every occurence of update-modules reads update-modules.modutils 5. Run dpkg --configure -a to finish the reinstallation 6. Repeat step 1 because all changes got overwritten after successfully reinstallation 7. Remove/purge package DIE DIE DIE. It's possible that reboot into 2.4 kernel, reinstall package also works. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:43:23AM +1100, Jeff Allison wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:31, Jon Teh wrote: That's still considered a real circuit however, even if your call goes via TDMA on the way to the exchange. Inter exchange circuits are fibre these days all running PCM over TDMA. -- Jon Teh I had one of those but the wheels fell off :/ The who what? -- Jon Teh -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] [OT] Light email replacement for Outlook Express
Can anyone recommend a light (it needs to run on Windows ME so I don't trust Mozilla Mail to work) email client that can handle multiple accounts as a replacement for Outlook Express? I am checking out Phoenix Mail (http://www.snapfiles.com/get/phoenix.html) as one option. I need something reliable for my sister (until I get her laptop onto Linux ;-) -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Can't uninstall Debian nvidia drivers: package in very bad inconsistent state
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:14:22AM +1100, Mary Gardiner wrote: The major problem seems to be in the post-removal script: cat: alsa: No such file or directory The closest Google match I can find is http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg81130.html and I've made sure /etc/modutils/alsa exists on my system. I know I can tell dpkg to force the removal of the package even though a reinstall is recommended (although... maybe it will try running the post-remove again!), but I want to know if there's a cleaner way out of this. I've also tried strace-ing the dpkg processes to find out which particular 'alsa' file it is seeking, all strace lines looking for 'alsa' are at the end of the mail -- I don't really know how to read strace output :( I ran into this myself - being one of the ALSA maintainers you'd think I was immune. Run dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base, and hit enter at every prompt, since all the answers should be loaded - it will re-link the 3 or so symlinks to /etc/alsa/modutils/1.0 that it needs, and the error should go away. -- Steve I've lost my sig! (and my mailserver for that matter) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Can't uninstall Debian nvidia drivers: package in very bad inconsistent state
Mary Gardiner wrote: Hey folks, I'm trying to either upgrade an nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686 Debian package or get rid of it. The existing package is 1.0.4496-2 and I built it against the kernel-headers-2.4.24-1-686 headers using the nvidia-kernel-source scripts (debian/rules binary_modules). Debian is now distributing nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686_1.0.5336+1 (presumably in non-free) and I'm trying to upgrade. I can't upgrade, remove or reinstall this pacakge (see full errors below). The major problem seems to be in the post-removal script: cat: alsa: No such file or directory The closest Google match I can find is http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg81130.html and I've made sure /etc/modutils/alsa exists on my system. I know I can tell dpkg to force the removal of the package even though a reinstall is recommended (although... maybe it will try running the post-remove again!), but I want to know if there's a cleaner way out of this. I've also tried strace-ing the dpkg processes to find out which particular 'alsa' file it is seeking, all strace lines looking for 'alsa' are at the end of the mail -- I don't really know how to read strace output :( If you're adventurous enough you could *remove* the postinstall script from /var/lib/dpkg/info. Messy but it works when a script is being a particular pain in the arse. If not, try putting a set -x at the top of it. The file will be /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.4.24-1-686.postrm or similar. Mick. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [OT] Light email replacement for Outlook Express
At 11:29 AM 26/02/2004, Simon Wong wrote: Can anyone recommend a light (it needs to run on Windows ME so I don't trust Mozilla Mail to work) email client that can handle multiple accounts as a replacement for Outlook Express? I am checking out Phoenix Mail (http://www.snapfiles.com/get/phoenix.html) as one option. I need something reliable for my sister (until I get her laptop onto Linux ;-) Eudora has always served me well. There is even a tool to convert Eudora mailboxes to Unix mbox format cheers, rob -- He can't be a man cause he doesn't smoke the same cigarettes as me -The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction This is random quote 33 of 1254. Distance from the centre of the brewing universe [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian Public Key fingerprint = 6219 33BD A37B 368D 29F5 19FB 945D C4D7 1F66 D9C5 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] [Job: Syd] Java Coder wanted
Greetings all, Something you may be interested in yourself or know someone who may be interested.. and yes, one of the target platforms is Linux. :) Thanks.. //umar. Java Coder Wanted: Can you code beautiful Java? Are you self-motivated and don't need direct supervision? Don't want to go to the office every day? We are looking for a Java coder to join a small and specialized team working on Security and Defence related projects. The company is a startup with extremely good opportunities and contacts and has just signed a deal across the Asia Pacific region with a leading multinational hardware/software vendor for co-marketing opportunities and distribution. All coding will be done from home, and checked in via VPN. With face-to-face meetings as-required. Needless to say - there will be times when other skills will be required - support, sysadmin, consulting, all-round IT skills - but this is almost entirely a coding position. The candidate MUST be self-motivated, reliable and organized. Direct supervision will be minimal. Technical skills required: * Java, J2EE, EJB * Swing/GUI Java work * XML * Solaris/*nix * Networking skills/understanding of IP and associated protocols * Security and encryption general concepts * Understanding of carrier/ISP environments Personal skills/attributes: * Good communicator * Team player * Reliable * Committed * Motivated Provided that you have excellent Java skills, are a fast learner, willing/able/keen to learn new concepts/technologies and are willing to RTFM - the rest can be picked up along the way. The idea is that the successful candidate will become an integral part of the team and critical to the success of the project. You will be exposed to various interesting methods, technologies and legal frameworks of various countries - so this will certainly be rewarding and interesting. This is a challenging position - commitment and hard work is critical to success. Candidate must be able to keep to deadlines and must be extremely reliable. If you are used to always submitting deliverables slightly late - do not apply. The successful candidate may also be required to undergo a Security Clearance - please bear this in mind. Various benefits and bonus schemes are available. Sydney-based applicants eligible to work in Australia only at this stage please. Please send your cover letter, resume, date of availability and expected level of remuneration to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SD Card support under Linux/DRM
Actually I've also heard that the people working on the Zaurus project have got this working as well - but don't give out their code etc.. Apparantly you have to sign away your life to get access to the doco from the SD manufacturers and can't pass it on afterwards. //umar. I believe that SD cards are working on at least some models of the iPAQ running Familiar Linux. Check http://familiar.handhelds.org/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SD Card support under Linux/DRM
Howdy Scott, Yep - been there.. doesn't work.. and the other thing is that having to use only one particular program on one particular OS offends me as well. Eek. It's interesting that Panasonic have opted down this path though.. other SD based players allow you to just mount and copy files across.. bah. //umar. Have you tried installing Jukebox under wine? Chances are it won't work, but it would be worth a try. http://www.winehq.org Cheers, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home Wireless
Yes, I've read all sorts of stuff on the net in mags pocketbooks but I'm too thick to get the 'big picture' before embarking on the project. My wife uses a minitar 802.11b (11Mbps) pcmcia card which retails for $49.50 I think from memory. And we also purchased a minitar 802.11b (11Mbps) wireless access point for $99. So if your budget is tight, I can recommend these items and brand. Very good. PS. Minitar Access Point runs an embedded version of linux (mine has been rebooted since I bought it and I believe its now posting over 100days uptime) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [Job: Syd] Java Coder wanted
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004, Umar Goldeli wrote: Greetings all, Something you may be interested in yourself or know someone who may be interested.. and yes, one of the target platforms is Linux. :) Hi Umar, We discourage people from sending job ads to the slug list -- you might want to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] [Computerbank] Call for assistance
Greetings Sluggers, Sorry for the tangetially off topic post but Computerbank Sydney requires your help. Yes, all of you! After being lovingly and most spendidly shafted by another community group who had promised us storage space then informed us yesterday that sorry no we wouldn't be able to use it, we now have a LARGE number of pallets of computers and nowhere to put them. You can help in a number of ways. If you or your company or anyone you know or even your worst enemies might have some space they would be willing to donate to Computerbank so we can store these pallets temporarily you or they would have our undying gratitude. The only requirements are that it be in the Sydney area, be lockable and keeps the machines out of the weather. As free storage space in Sydney is at a premium the alternative is to contribute generously to the CBSydney Storage Fund which will enable us to get temporary commerical storage. Corporate donations of large checks graciously recieved as well as small donations from many individuals. For those of you who aren't aware of Computerbank and what we do we take donated computers (which is what these are) from Corporate entities and individuals and then refurbish them, Install free software (currently Debian GNU/Linux) and then give the computers away to community groups, schools, disadvanatged individuals etc. Anyone who wouldn't normally be able to really afford a computer. So please, it's a good cause and we're in a bit of a pickle at the moment so any help you or anyone you know can provide would be much appreciated. I can be reached for any questions at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on 0410526200 at any time. Thanks in advance for your help. Dan Treacy President Computerbank Sydney -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] [Computerbank] Call for assitance redux
Just one other thing.. please feel free to forward the previous email on to people or other groups who may be able to help. Thanks, Dan. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [Job: Syd] Java Coder wanted
...snip
want to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead.
Does that list still take spam from agencies?
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Re: [SLUG] [Job: Syd] Java Coder wanted
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004, Terry Collins wrote: ...snip want to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. Does that list still take spam from agencies? I'm not sure who is filtering posts to that list... it was Tony Green for a while, maybe it still is. In practice, about 50% of the posts are people asking for work, the rest non-agency. But I don't know whether that's because agency stuff is filtered out :) -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ximian Evolution
Evolution ( at least V 1.2.2) appears to have a problem with pkcs7 singed emails. Is this a know problem and has it been fixed anywhere? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. - Scott Granneman, SecurityFocus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [Computerbank] Call for assistance
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Dan Treacy wrote: After being lovingly and most spendidly shafted by another community group who had promised us storage space then informed us yesterday that sorry no we wouldn't be able to use it, we now have a LARGE number of pallets of computers and nowhere to put them. Hey I said we shouldn't take any more stuff out there, it really was too full. If you or your company or anyone you know or even your worst enemies might have some space they would be willing to donate to Computerbank so we can store these pallets temporarily you or they would have our undying gratitude. The only requirements are that it be in the Sydney area, be lockable and keeps the machines out of the weather. For temporary storage:- Kennards Homebush 2.8m x 9.5m x 3.0m$530/month Now with the current load of computers you'll probably need a couple of these spaces. I'm willing to fill a bedroom at my place for a while but I've got my bi-annual inspection from the landlord next week and they'll probably want to check up on stuff that needs fixing too. I could stick some trash in the shed but it leaks so ONLY trash! I'd encourage others to maybe donate some garage space temporarily at least although shifting stuff takes effort and money. As free storage space in Sydney is at a premium the alternative is to contribute generously to the CBSydney Storage Fund which will enable us to get temporary commerical storage. Corporate donations of large checks graciously recieved as well as small donations from many individuals. I'd have to get a bank cheque or have someone supply bank details for direct deposit. Then again... I can just donate what I spent on the truck last week ($123.00). -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ximian Evolution
quote who=Howard Lowndes Evolution ( at least V 1.2.2) appears to have a problem with pkcs7 singed emails. Is this a know problem and has it been fixed anywhere? Worth checking bugzilla.ximian.com; they'd know. :-) - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ What's up with that word though... it's like something you did to frogs in grammar school. - Ani DiFranco on bisexuality -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Changed Motherboard
Got back to work today and started checking this - first no joy at all. Still the same issues, except if I deleted the entries in modules.conf there were no errors during startup, the system indiscated the ethx ports had started - but they hadn't!! So pulled the server out of the rack to check jumpers on the mother board, they were both set to enable, what the heck moved one to disable and both NIC's came up (to this point I was not even getting green lights). The tech said they wouldn't power up until the drivers were running properly - shouldn't listen to him. Thought that was weird so put them both back to enable and got two brand new cables out of the box - both NIC's with lights and no errors on startup!! Yeah!! Must have been the cables - which is weird as they worked with the previous mother board. Put the server back in the rack, same cables, only one comes on!!! Arghhh. But at least that card is working fine. Now have to pull it out of the rack again!! Ain't life grand! Robert Collins said: On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 19:41, Simon Bryan wrote: They are built into the motherboard. Possibly what config file would hold this info? check modules.conf for aliases to eth0 and eth1. RH does some (IMO) weird crack. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. -- Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [Job: Syd] Java Coder wanted
quote(Mary Gardiner); I'm not sure who is filtering posts to that list... it was Tony Green for a while, maybe it still is. In practice, about 50% of the posts are people asking for work, the rest non-agency. But I don't know whether that's because agency stuff is filtered out :) I mostly do the moderation for jobs@ (Pete also does some?). If anything looks like something of interest, I generally let it through. :-) - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SLUG Monthly meeting, Friday 27th February 2004
Sydney Linux Users' Group Monthly Meeting: Februrary 2004 When: Friday, February 27, 6:30pm - 9:00pm Where: UTS Broadway, room 2.4.13. Directions at http://slug.org.au/events/uts.html SLUG's monthly meeting, featuring general talks, special interest talks and SLUGlets. Meetings are open to the general public, and free of charge. The meeting this month will be in the usual room, 02.04.13. Room 13 on level 4 of building 2. Directions at the map link above. SLUGlets will be held in room 01.04.06. General Talk Introduction to abas, and Linux trends in Europe. abas's Peter Hill, Managing Director; and Theo Aroney, Director of Professional Technical Services will introduce abas, a company that produces Linux-based business software, and discuss Linux trends in Europe. Special Interest Talk Duraid Madina, talking about the AC3 computing cluster. Put together by a consortium of NSW universities to gain big computing power. Duraid will be talking about what the machine is, why they chose the design that they did, the kinds of things it is being used for, and the pros and cons of running Linux on it. As usual, SLUGlets will be running in another room during the second half of the meeting for those who do not wish to attend the second talk. This month SLUGlets will focus on post-installfest issues. SLUGlets this month will be in room 1.04.06. 6:30pm: Doors Open 6:45pm: The Usual Suspects QA - Introduction to SLUG + What has Linux done for/to me lately? + SLUG News Discussion 7:15pm: General Talk LCA roundup 8:00pm: Break Refreshments in the foyer, for a small covering charge. 8:20pm: Split into two groups for: * Special Interest: Duraid Madina, The AC3 computing cluster. * SLUGlets: quick talks and discussion of Linux and Free Software. Dinner Dinner at Spice Boys (Indian), $20 per head. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [Computerbank] Call for assistance
Hey I said we shouldn't take any more stuff out there, it really was too full. There's nothign wrong with Seven Hills except for the fact we can't fit anything else in it for the time being. We always knew that was going to happen but we'd secured (or so we thought) this other premises to handle the overflow. This storage isn't for the computers at Seven Hills it's for others yet to be delivered. If you or your company or anyone you know or even your worst enemies might have some space they would be willing to donate to Computerbank so we can store these pallets temporarily you or they would have our undying gratitude. The only requirements are that it be in the Sydney area, be lockable and keeps the machines out of the weather. For temporary storage:- Kennards Homebush 2.8m x 9.5m x 3.0m $530/month Now with the current load of computers you'll probably need a couple of these spaces. *chuckles* 5.9m x 2.4m x 2.4m about $100/month And we'll need more than a couple. Currently I estimate we'll need between 50 and 100 sqm of floor space I'm willing to fill a bedroom at my place for a while but I've got my bi-annual inspection from the landlord next week and they'll probably want to check up on stuff that needs fixing too. I could stick some trash in the shed but it leaks so ONLY trash! thanks for the offer and I'll keep it in mind for some smaller local pickups etc. But for this one we're looking for either one large area or a couple of smaller areas that will take pallets. I'd encourage others to maybe donate some garage space temporarily at least although shifting stuff takes effort and money. Whilst I'm happy to accept people's help like that I'd rather keep the stuff together for the most part. As free storage space in Sydney is at a premium the alternative is to contribute generously to the CBSydney Storage Fund which will enable us to get temporary commerical storage. Corporate donations of large checks graciously recieved as well as small donations from many individuals. I'd have to get a bank cheque or have someone supply bank details for direct deposit. Then again... I can just donate what I spent on the truck last week ($123.00). For any queries regarding donations to Computerbank email Ken Caldwell the Treasurer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he can fill you in on the details. Thanks, Dan. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [Job: Syd] Java Coder wanted
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004, Terry Collins wrote: ...snip want to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. Does that list still take spam from agencies? I'm not sure who is filtering posts to that list... it was Tony Green for a while, maybe it still is. In practice, about 50% of the posts are people asking for work, the rest non-agency. But I don't know whether that's because agency stuff is filtered out :) IIRC, we've only had one agency posting on the list. That was from a guy who I knew and who was recruiting for a FOSS related position within a company who was known to be linux friendly. All of the other agency posts we had (when I was running the list) were turned down. I can't speak for the current admins. -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another simple (I hope) LaTeX question
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:51:44 +1100
Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Enter your name here: \raisebox{-1mm}{\rule{2in}{0.1pt}}
OK, solves that problem.
The next problem os that I'm using the fancyhdr style and have
a footer something like this:
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Left textPage Number Right text
I now want to force some space (about 1cm) between the body
text and the footer line. Any clues?
Cheers,
Erik
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Re: [SLUG] Another simple (I hope) LaTeX question
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
The next problem os that I'm using the fancyhdr style and have
a footer something like this:
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Left textPage Number Right text
I now want to force some space (about 1cm) between the body
text and the footer line. Any clues?
Play around with this:
\usepackage[body={100mm,180mm},top=20mm,bottom=20mm]{geometry}
reduce/enlarge the 180mm which is the height of the body text.
read geometry.dvi docs
Have to rush and get train so its untested.
Mike
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Re: [SLUG] [OT] Light email replacement for Outlook Express
Simon Wong wrote:
Can anyone recommend a light (it needs to run on Windows ME so I don't
trust Mozilla Mail to work) email client that can handle multiple
accounts as a replacement for Outlook Express?
I am checking out Phoenix Mail
(http://www.snapfiles.com/get/phoenix.html) as one option.
I need something reliable for my sister (until I get her laptop onto
Linux ;-)
I would be more inclined to install something that is cross platform...
so the linux change will not be so dauting ('wheres my msn!!').
Mozilla has some issues being installed on an out of box installation of
Windows 95 (running MS patches helps). I would recommened Mozilla's
standalone mail client Mozilla Thunderbird (v0.5).
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/
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