Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
> > OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
> > I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
> > lookups?
>
> Ah, now that's much harder. Your decision should be driven by your users
> requirements and policies more than anything else. Go to openrbl.org and
> check out the ones it uses, and choose between them based on your needs.
Have done, and made some changes.
Now, let's see if they work. :)
Thanks.
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
> OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
> I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
> lookups?
Ah, now that's much harder. Your decision should be driven by your users
requirements and policies more than anything else. Go to openrbl.org and
check out the ones it uses, and choose between them based on your needs.
- Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
> > > Unfortunately, so are SORBS.
> > Care to elaborate?
> > If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a
> > balanced argument as to WHY they're bad.
>
> First off, their methods and policies for adding and keeping IP addresses
> (but usually whole blocks) are pretty shonky. Bodgy tests, insisting that a
> number of infractions lists you for a full year (and similar rules), and the
> worst is aggregating all of their lists - even the very suspect ones - into
> a single rbl (which is basically what all SORBS users use). Most removals
> are done manually, not via automated checks. Many of their lists are whacked
> enough by definition that they require manual checks. Insane.
>
> You really have to read their webpage (http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/) to
> see just how crack they are. Additionally, to get off some of their lists,
> you must make a $50 donation to a suggested or chosen charity. That's just
> flat-out extortion - even though it sounds all very nice and dandy, and we
> should wring spammers necks, and yada yada yada, SORBS are so willy-nilly
> with their shotgun approach that they affect everyone.
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:35:05 +1100 (EST) DaZZa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Care to elaborate? > > If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a > balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. OK, here is a bounce that I got: Connected to 208.137.128.6 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 Mail from 144.140.70.20 refused by dnsbl dnsbl.sorbs.net Where 144.140.70.20 is one of the bigpond mail servers. Looking it up on SROBS: http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=144.140.70.20 144.140.70.20 found in Database of servers sending to spamtrap addresses Address or Block 144.140.70.20 / 32 Description Subject: * failure notice Entry Created Wed Jan 21 11:40:09 2004 GMT Entry Last Seen Wed Jan 21 11:40:09 2004 GMT Spam Seen From 144.140.70.20 Now everyone will recognise that Subject line as a line from one of the latest windows virii. So what happened was that some bigpond user has a machine with a virus, and the virus sent an email to the SORBS spamtrap address. I have no problem with people who filter out virii. I can even live with the stupid fscking virus notification emails, but blacklisting a whole ISP because one of their users has a virus is a bit much. So I agree, SORBS is a least as fscked as bigpond. I can't do much about SORBS, but I will be leaving bigpond ASAP. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ "He who writes the code gets to choose his license, and nobody else gets to complain" -- Linus Torvalds -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
> > Unfortunately, so are SORBS. > > Care to elaborate? > > If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a > balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. First off, their methods and policies for adding and keeping IP addresses (but usually whole blocks) are pretty shonky. Bodgy tests, insisting that a number of infractions lists you for a full year (and similar rules), and the worst is aggregating all of their lists - even the very suspect ones - into a single rbl (which is basically what all SORBS users use). Most removals are done manually, not via automated checks. Many of their lists are whacked enough by definition that they require manual checks. Insane. You really have to read their webpage (http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/) to see just how crack they are. Additionally, to get off some of their lists, you must make a $50 donation to a suggested or chosen charity. That's just flat-out extortion - even though it sounds all very nice and dandy, and we should wring spammers necks, and yada yada yada, SORBS are so willy-nilly with their shotgun approach that they affect everyone. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ "Gah. Out of coffee. Shall think whilst auto-caffeinating." - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] making a bootable RH9 disk
David, the .iso files are an image of exactly what goes on the CD, they're not files (in that sense). What your CDROAST is doing is re-building an ISO image which in this case it should not be doing. With the ISO files you don't have to worry about boot sectors, el-torito, Joliet encoding blah blah ... essentially it's just copying blocks to the CDR. On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Perry, David wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to burn a set of Redhat 9 disks. I have downloaded the three shrike iso > files onto the hard disk of a RH8 PC. I have checked the MD5 checksums and they are > all good. > > Problem 1: > > I am using CDRoast and selected shrike-i386-disc1.iso and added it as the master > source. In the boot options I select El Torito and am using bootdisk.img as the > boot image. (I extracted bootdisk.img from the iso file and saved it to a tmp > directory). I left the boot catalog as the default boot.catalog . > > When I try and create the session image I get a message " Uh oh, I can't find the > boot catalog directory". > > Problem 2: > I have burnt a copy of iso disk 3 which doesn't have to be bootable. When I read it > it shows a single file "shrike-i386-disc3.iso" rather than the hundreds of files > contained in the iso image. What did I do wrong when I burnt the CD? > Does anyone have any idea of what is wrong? I need some specific instructions, I > have spent a couple of hours on google and there is plenty of advice but it's fairly > general. > Thanks in advance > David > > > > > > -- -- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver & rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed > > in the SORBS database: > > https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup > > Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away > > from them. > > Unfortunately, so are SORBS. Care to elaborate? If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed > in the SORBS database: > > https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup And not just the cable ones either - a good percentage of their mail servers that permanently connected business customers are supposed to use as relays, or if they can't set up their own mail server, are there as well. I keep catching hell at work because the RBL lookup matches, and blocks legitimate inbound mail. I remove the server, but as soon as another message comes through - BAM, right back in. And there is *no* consistancy as far as which server gets used - you can't say "Client XX uses server YY for outbound mail all the time", and put in an exception for server YY. > I have so far spent over 5 hours on the phone to telstra suport > bots (actually an insult to most functional bot programs) explaining > to them that its their responsibility to get Telstra's mail servers > out of the database. You are flat out wasting your time. The only thing that got Telstra off their arse to fix their news servers was the threat of a UDP against them - and even then, they did it at the absolute last minute. > Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away > from them. So do I, but unfortunately, you can't stop people sending you mail from a Telstra account. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] stuffit unpacking on linux
Just dragging up an old thread, 'cause I found myself wanting to unpack a bunch of .hqx and .sea files last night. On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 17:36, David Kempe wrote: > Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > > Who knows how to unpack a .sit on Linux? Bonus points for those who > > don't suggest booting a mac-on-linux instance for the job. > > stuffit expander is ported to linux Ironically, the port is for x86 only. :-) > http://www.stuffit.com/unix/index.html I had a lot of problems getting the current version working. It segfaults a lot, particularly working with .sea archives. Random googling eventually found a bunch of others recommending using an older version, grab it from ftp://ftp.aladdinsys.com/pub/_old/ . -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SORBS (was ADSL modem recommendations)
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:21:41 +1100 Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed > > in the SORBS database: > > > > https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup > > > Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away > > from them. > > Unfortunately, so are SORBS. That may well be true, but unless you have ever tried to explain to a telstra support bot how email works, you have no idea how clueless the telsta support bots are. I have to agree that listing any mail server which has ever sent email to a spam trap address is rather silly. By doing so they are destroying what they are tryig to protect (email). Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. -- Henry Spencer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] making a bootable RH9 disk
Thanks James, that worked beautifully. Simple when you know how. Cheers David > -Original Message- > From: James Gregory [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 1 March 2004 6:11 pm > To: Perry, David > Cc: Sydney Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [SLUG] making a bootable RH9 disk > > On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 18:01, James Gregory wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 17:22, Perry, David wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying to burn a set of Redhat 9 disks. I have downloaded the three shrike > > > iso files onto the hard disk of a RH8 PC. I have checked the MD5 checksums and > > > they are all good. > > > > > > Problem 1: > > > > > > I am using CDRoast and selected shrike-i386-disc1.iso and added it as the master > > > source. In the boot options I select El Torito and am using bootdisk.img as the > > > boot image. (I extracted bootdisk.img from the iso file and saved it to a tmp > > > directory). I left the boot catalog as the default boot.catalog . > > > > The el-torito stuff is included in the iso image as far as I know. At > > any rate, I burn these with: > > > > cdrecord speed=12 dev=0,0,0 -data [ISO NAME] > > And I should have mentioned where I got that 0,0,0 from. It's a SCSI > device ID. To get a list of all of the IDs and the ID string from the > device, run > > cdrecord -scanbus > > The CDR drive will be labelled as such. > > HTH (again), > > James. > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Kanwar, I'm with telstra, they provided me with an "Alcatel Speed Touch Pro", which I used windows and their supplied cd to setup. Then told linux it had a new gateway. 5 min including rebooting. I also have here the "Netcom nb1300" and the "Billion bipac-714 ge v2.0" I'd recommend the billion to anybody. Easy to setup, very configutrable and use. (The modem I currently use) My two pence worth anyway. Ashley What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking at researching if/how it works with Linux. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:21 am, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed > > in the SORBS database: > > > > https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup > > > > Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away > > from them. > > Unfortunately, so are SORBS. > > - Jeff Hence the reason all the SORBS scores in every SpamAssassin installation I manage have scores of zero. Then you have customers who insist on using some weird-arse RBL that was never intended to be distributed (like this one - http:// www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php). Then you end up with you mail server being guilty by association (within the IP block assigned to $ISP)grrr. What sort of RBL blocks an ENTIRE B-class network?!?! James - -- Fortune cookies says: What one fool can do, another can. -- Ancient Simian Proverb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQ8nwwBHpdJO7b9ERAt0rAKCXIcr1kq+JGPl3xpQVqNQKW1YHYgCgjBFw nSApyf3ZHBlGkR6YiDVJvWw= =lCIk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
> Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed > in the SORBS database: > > https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup > Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away > from them. Unfortunately, so are SORBS. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ It's not just a song! It's a document of my life! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:23:32 +1100 (EST) Kanwar Plaha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as > part of their promos? Different ISPs provide different modems. > For instance, i am about to > install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... My experiences with Bigpond Cable broadband is the reason I am moving to ADSL with someone other than Bigpong. Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup I have so far spent over 5 hours on the phone to telstra suport bots (actually an insult to most functional bot programs) explaining to them that its their responsibility to get Telstra's mail servers out of the database. Meanwhile, I am getting legitimate email from me to people I know all over the world getting bounced back to me. Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ "I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't." - Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
> What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as > part of their promos? For instance, i am about to > install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone > know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking > at researching if/how it works with Linux. > Alcatel don't they? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:13:13 +1100
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: Chris Deigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> quote("Erik de Castro Lopo");
> >I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and
> the ISP I
> >have chosen allows me to choose my own modem
> instead of the
> >one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some
> problems
> >with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives.
> >
> >Anyone have any recommendations?
>
> I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well
> (besides bad internal security
> which is easily fixed with iptables)
>
> I've also heard good things about Billion (which are
> on the cheaper side)
>
> - Chris
>
What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as
part of their promos? For instance, i am about to
install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone
know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking
at researching if/how it works with Linux.
Thanks,
Kanwar
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Re: [SLUG] mozilla thunderbird, mime, and ms outhouse
Have you saved the offending attachment to disk and then run the file command against it? You may find that it is in TNEF - Transport neutral encapulated format (dont ask why such a thing exists). If so you can find software on freshmeat to decode it. BB on Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 08:23:04AM +1100, Sonia Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've migrated my Windows users to Mozilla Thunderbird running off a > Linux imap server (with procmail/spamassassin filtering). Everything's > working well, except for one thing - attachments aren't being displayed > for some messages, and of course the culprits are messages sent from ms > outhouse. The message just comes up as blank; when I look at the source > I can see there's various content and attachments. > > I've got an idea that it has something to do with incorrect mime layout > and/or 7/8 bit mime, and I want to clean all email using procmail, but I > don't know what I should be looking for. I've googled - lots of stuff > about defanging outhouse mime, but nothing I could find on converting it > to a standards compliant format. Any ideas? > > Converting word documents using antiword isn't an option, as my users > want the word documents. I've found stuff on stripping html > http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/H/HI/HIGHTOWE/mime_strip.html_bodies.pl-1.4 > and attachments > http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/development/sanitizer/sanitizer.txt, > but I'll deal with that next. > > Here's the headers for a mail that doesn't work (I've stripped the > content to save space). I realise that this mail is probably spam > anyway, but my users seem to read this sort of stuff ;-) > > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:46:51 +1000 > > From: xx > > Subject: Ford Truck > > To: xx > > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > > Content-type: multipart/mixed; > > boundary="Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog)" > > X-Priority: 3 > > X-MSMail-priority: Normal > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > --Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog) > > Content-type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg)" > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg) > > Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg) > > Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > > > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg)-- > > > > --Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog) > > Content-type: application/msword; name="Bobby Sue and the Truck.doc" > > Content-transfer-encoding: base64 > > Content-disposition: attachment; filename="Bobby Sue and the Truck.doc" > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog)-- > > > > --020602060403090607020704-- > > -- > Sonia| Los principios elementales que animan > .| al Proyecto se vinculan a las garantías > GNU/Linux| básicas de un Estado democrático de derecho. > Software Libre | Carta del DR. VILLANUEVA NUÑEZ. > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] mozilla thunderbird, mime, and ms outhouse
I've migrated my Windows users to Mozilla Thunderbird running off a Linux imap server (with procmail/spamassassin filtering). Everything's working well, except for one thing - attachments aren't being displayed for some messages, and of course the culprits are messages sent from ms outhouse. The message just comes up as blank; when I look at the source I can see there's various content and attachments. I've got an idea that it has something to do with incorrect mime layout and/or 7/8 bit mime, and I want to clean all email using procmail, but I don't know what I should be looking for. I've googled - lots of stuff about defanging outhouse mime, but nothing I could find on converting it to a standards compliant format. Any ideas? Converting word documents using antiword isn't an option, as my users want the word documents. I've found stuff on stripping html http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/H/HI/HIGHTOWE/mime_strip.html_bodies.pl-1.4 and attachments http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/development/sanitizer/sanitizer.txt, but I'll deal with that next. Here's the headers for a mail that doesn't work (I've stripped the content to save space). I realise that this mail is probably spam anyway, but my users seem to read this sort of stuff ;-) > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:46:51 +1000 > From: xx > Subject: Ford Truck > To: xx > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MIME-version: 1.0 > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > Content-type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog)" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-priority: Normal > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog) > Content-type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg)" > > > --Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg) > Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > --Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg) > Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_2KQBTOH/b1ZH5++8GtbiTg)-- > > --Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog) > Content-type: application/msword; name="Bobby Sue and the Truck.doc" > Content-transfer-encoding: base64 > Content-disposition: attachment; filename="Bobby Sue and the Truck.doc" > > --Boundary_(ID_Upv/Tdkwipyc8MNe8zJwog)-- > > --020602060403090607020704-- -- Sonia| Los principios elementales que animan .| al Proyecto se vinculan a las garantías GNU/Linux| básicas de un Estado democrático de derecho. Software Libre | Carta del DR. VILLANUEVA NUÑEZ. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] making sun vi act like gnu vi
Dave Airlie was once rumoured to have said: > > sun vi is just that sun vi, Linux vi is vim, so install vim on Solaris, > www.sunfreeware.com is your friend.. Ugh! no! Linux vi is NOT VIM. And vim is NOT vi. vim is vim. Linux vi is any of: nvi, elvis, vim, ae. Which one depends entirely on your distribution. I use debian, an install nvi as vi, and vim as vim. Distributions that package vim as vi should be hurt severely as vim has a LOT of non-vi behaviour by default which results in lots of braindamaged linux users who think that there's something wrong with the plain unix vi. I have no problems against vim, I have problems with people who try to brand vim as being vi. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] DLink 302G Modem "watchdog" script
Does anyone have a working and reliable script that monitors the connection and reboots the modem if the connection fails? Thanks Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to tell apt-get not to remove some packages when removing others
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:11:10PM +1100, Michael Lake said > Peter Hardy wrote: > > Rather than just building and installing from a source tarball, would it > > be possible for you to backport from unstable? The advantage of that is > > that you end up with a .deb, meaning you don't break your dependency > > chain. There's no guarantee, however, that the unstable package is the > > most recent. But it will be fairly close. :-) > > They are no later candidatates for either testing or unstable > > testing & unstable are at: libdbi-perl 1.35-1 (out of date) > testing & unstable are at: libdbd-mysql-perl 2.9003-1 (up to date) > > I have a tarball for DBI-perl at 1.41 > > Main reason why I need to install libdbd-mysql-perl from source is to > compile it on my machine here and see if I get the segfault that the > binary dist gets. Try dh-make-perl, it'll make snazyy little packages out of tarballs from CPAN. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: AGT. AMME terrorist import encryption assassinate signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home Wireless
Hi Mehmet, Thanks for this. I have now installed a netgear wireless router/access point and have a Netgear USB MA111 thing to connect with. (Now just got to get this working under linux with iwconfig & friends!) The 'big picture' part I was missing totally is that the router/access point itself, logs on to the ISP, so one can connect to the hub with either computer, using whatever OS the user selects (if properly configured). In fact, with Telstra Bigpond (cable) this actually makes things easier as it is not necessary to run BPALogin (or buggy telstra written equivalent) on client computers wishing to connect to the internet. So all in all, much easier, cleaner and nicer than I was anticipating. Now I've got to get back to those iwconfig command and ifcfg-wlan0 files. I suspect your comment "set up in Ad-Hoc mode" will proove valuable. Thanks again, Hal - Original Message - From: "Mehmet Yousouf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 19:27:32 EST To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Home Wireless two easy ways of achieving this: A: ADSL Router/modem/hub that will do the connecting a wireless access point and two wireless cards set to managed I've used D-Link with no problems. access point is "plugged" into the modem. B: The setup I have at home is an ADSL modem connected to an expensive linux firewall box (pentium 200, 64mb ram, 6.4 gig hd, cdrom, network card, wireless (D-Link) card running a proxy server (not neccessary but handy for statistics), a mail server, webserver, and groupware for the family (using group-office right now). add wireless cards as needed to other pcs and set up in Ad-Hoc mode. If you have any questions, more than happy to assist. Regards, Mehmet -- ___ Get your free email from http://www.iname.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] making sun vi act like gnu vi
sun vi is just that sun vi, Linux vi is vim, so install vim on Solaris, www.sunfreeware.com is your friend.. Dave. On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Simon Males wrote: > > On the uni solaris machine, vi is just plain yucky. Is there some hidden file > that I can copy across so I can use solaris vi like linux vi ?? > > Text editing can be so painful sometimes > > -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] making sun vi act like gnu vi
On the uni solaris machine, vi is just plain yucky. Is there some hidden file that I can copy across so I can use solaris vi like linux vi ?? Text editing can be so painful sometimes -- Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
