[SLUG] ndiswrapper in mandrake 10

2004-08-25 Thread Steven Chang-Lin Yu
Finally got mandrake 10, and installed ndiswrapper for my annoying 
netgear wg311v2, everything is working ok, and i got network connection, 
but when i do a restart, the configuration for thw wifi seems to be 
lossed, I recall someone in the group also have the same problem, just 
want to know how you go around it?

Thanks
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RE: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread Jared Pritchard
Bingo. 'message' dump =

...
...
...
Aug 25 16:32:51 linux01 named[5353]: lame server resolving
'agreserves.com.au' (in 'agreserves.com.au'?): 203.2.192.124#53
Aug 25 16:32:51 linux01 named[5353]: lame server resolving
'agreserves.com.au' (in 'agreserves.com.au'?): 203.2.193.124#53
Aug 25 16:32:51 linux01 named[5353]: lame server resolving
'agreserves.com.au' (in 'agreserves.com.au'?): 203.2.192.124#53
Aug 25 16:32:51 linux01 named[5353]: lame server resolving
'agreserves.com.au' (in 'agreserves.com.au'?): 203.2.193.124#53
Aug 25 16:52:22 linux01 named[5353]: message.c:809: REQUIRE(*rdataset ==
((void *)0)) failed
Aug 25 16:52:22 linux01 named[5353]: exiting (due to assertion failure)

- The full file is 600kb+ dated from Aug 22.
- The last few rolled logs (from whenever to Aug 22) are about 16k in
size!

Those are just the last few lines (obviously!)

Does this help?

Bind version: bind-9.2.0-8

If it can be fixed without re-installing / upgrading bind or named, then
fantastic!  =)

I sense progress  ;)

I also looked at the zone files as per Plameras advice.
NONE of them seemed to have Tabs.?  And from memory, this was always the
case. I changed a couple of the more important ones to have tabs
anyway...

I'll give an update tomorrow, in the meantime, if someone sees something
else, or finds something in the log extract above, feel free to post it
;)

Ta.

Regards,
Jared Pritchard

The Waterexchange Pty Ltd
Ph:  (02) 6881 6316
Fax:(02) 6881 6318


-Original Message-
From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 25 August 2004 1:54 PM
To: Jared Pritchard
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

Jared Pritchard wrote:
 I assume just by running it...?
 When I do it reports nothing.  =)
 
 I'm not confident/experienced enough to make 'major' changes like
 updating named, because this server is very critical to our
livelihood.
 I can't risk taking it offline. =(

on my server, named logs all its output to /var/log/messages

If you run 'grep named /var/log/messages', what does it come back with?

 Any other thoughts as to why it just suddenly started doing this
without
 any apparent reason, or anything I can do to fix it?
 Also, I can't manage to figure out how to find its distribution.
 It's not in /etc/issue, and wasn't installed as a package (ie. rpm
 doesn't list it)

try running rpm -q bind. What does it come back with? The dns server 
package under Redhat linux is called bind.

 It must be some sort of configuration error because it still does it
 after a reboot (mind you, I haven't tried a cold boot) - but we made

If a warm reboot doesn't work, then a cold boot isn't going to do 
anything for you under linux unless it was specifically a hardware
issue.

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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
Obviously, when you find spaces, replace
with TABS.

That's false.  BIND copes just fine with spaces or tabs.

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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jared Pritchard wrote:
I assume just by running it...?
When I do it reports nothing.  =)

It checks the config in (by default) /etc/named.conf and reports errors.  If
that returned nothing then there's nothing wrong with the configuration.

The other thing to try (based on the assertion failure in your other mail)
is to use named-checkzone on the zone files to see if there's an error
there.

named-checkzone domain path/to/zonefile

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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jared Pritchard wrote:
Aug 25 16:32:51 linux01 named[5353]: lame server resolving
'agreserves.com.au' (in 'agreserves.com.au'?): 203.2.192.124#53

These are mostly harmless and can be ignored, if you want to chuck them out
of the logs totally then the following

logging {
category lame-servers { null; };
};

in named.conf will hush it up.

Aug 25 16:52:22 linux01 named[5353]: message.c:809: REQUIRE(*rdataset ==
((void *)0)) failed
Aug 25 16:52:22 linux01 named[5353]: exiting (due to assertion failure)

I think you have a bad zonefile somewhere.

And you shouldn't need to restart BIND to make any changes, if you have rndc
set up correctly then 'rndc reconfig' to reload any changes to named.conf
and 'rndc reload domain' to reload the zone without interrupting
nameservice.

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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread O Plameras
Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
 

Obviously, when you find spaces, replace
with TABS.
   

That's false.  BIND copes just fine with spaces or tabs.
 

When did this specs change. With BIND 4 this is the case,
namely: that delimiters on zone files must be TABS and not
SPACE.
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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread David


On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, O Plameras wrote:

 Jamie Wilkinson wrote:

 This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
 
 
 Obviously, when you find spaces, replace
 with TABS.
 
 
 
 That's false.  BIND copes just fine with spaces or tabs.
 
 
 
 When did this specs change. With BIND 4 this is the case,
 namely: that delimiters on zone files must be TABS and not
 SPACE.

I've never used tabs I've been using BIND since 4. Maybe I was lucky
:)
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[SLUG] Re: [chat] Unwired

2004-08-25 Thread Shaun Oliver
Someone much smarter than I, on Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:05:49AM +1000, spake thus.
 
 Does anyone have any experience of unwired.. .good, bad or ugly? My
 daughter is getting 12Kb on her dial up because of crappy phone lines and
 I'm wondering how good an alternative this is.
 
 She has a Macintosh which the web site says are supported. Sadly, linux
 isn't mentioned - does anyone have any clues about linux connectivity? or
 does it just connect to an ethernet port like anything else?
 
As I understand it dave, unwired uses a nonstandard proprietory 
implementation of wireless.
I doubt you'll be able to connect it easily to a linux machine as it 
doesn't conform to the 802.11b standard I think it is. someone can 
correct me on that standard number at any rate.
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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread O Plameras
I used what I'm confident is confirmed knowledge, namely:
Delimiter SPECS on zone files are 'TABS'. This is the case
with at least BIND4. I stayed with that SPECS since then
for as long as the SPECS work for me.
I have O'Reilly BIND Book for BIND 4. I know there are
latter editions. But I have no need for them now.
SPACE delimiters worked for you; stay with it.  TABS
work for me.
I'd be grateful if you can point to me an RFC, Book,
or Online Internet Document to say about enhancements
to this specs.
TABS are still OK because it works for me.
But I do not rely on luck when it comes to operating
computers and networks. I have to satisfy myself that
it is part of the SPECS. That's the rule I follow.
David wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, O Plameras wrote:
 

Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
   

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
 

Obviously, when you find spaces, replace
with TABS.
   

That's false.  BIND copes just fine with spaces or tabs.

 

When did this specs change. With BIND 4 this is the case,
namely: that delimiters on zone files must be TABS and not
SPACE.
   

I've never used tabs I've been using BIND since 4. Maybe I was lucky
:)
 

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[SLUG] Ldap problem

2004-08-25 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi

I seem to have run into a bit of ldap problem, I was trying to do a
change to my ldap database and it froze the command did not seem to
complete. I was using phpldapadmin to modify a record

Since then I have had problems doing anything against the ldap db.

eg ldapsearch -x - stop 1/3 of the way through in the same spot!
slapcat - stop and freezes in the same spot

slapindex gets stuck as well


when I have done a strace agains these processes (slapindex, slapcat),
they seem to be pumping out schd_yeild and ps has then up s R

I have am wondering what tools there are to look at the bdbm database
files, I had a quick look at the db4_ files but they haven't been
much help.

Currently looking for a backup of the data, I have a replicated site
(fingers crossed), but I used to backup the raw files, but it seems like
I have a backup of dud files !

Alex





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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Unwired

2004-08-25 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:25:11PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote:
 Someone much smarter than I, on Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:05:49AM +1000, spake thus.
  
  Does anyone have any experience of unwired.. .good, bad or ugly? My
  daughter is getting 12Kb on her dial up because of crappy phone lines and
  I'm wondering how good an alternative this is.
  
  She has a Macintosh which the web site says are supported. Sadly, linux
  isn't mentioned - does anyone have any clues about linux connectivity? or
  does it just connect to an ethernet port like anything else?
  
 As I understand it dave, unwired uses a nonstandard proprietory 
 implementation of wireless.
 I doubt you'll be able to connect it easily to a linux machine as it 
 doesn't conform to the 802.11b standard I think it is. someone can 
 correct me on that standard number at any rate.
 hth

Note sure if it is nonstandard, it isn't 802.11b/g/a.  This is out side
of the 2.5  5 Ghz free range, they have paid for the spectrum as fas as
I understand and to use the service you need there modem, not sure of
the interconnect with the pc, but my guess would be ethernet

A

 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Ldap problem

2004-08-25 Thread O Plameras
I'd do two things to check:
1. Check that your LDAP programs or systems are OK,
by doing:
ldapwhoami -x
2. Check the permissions on you LDAP DB directory.
What change did you do ?
Alexander Samad wrote:
Hi
I seem to have run into a bit of ldap problem, I was trying to do a
change to my ldap database and it froze the command did not seem to
complete. I was using phpldapadmin to modify a record
Since then I have had problems doing anything against the ldap db.
eg ldapsearch -x - stop 1/3 of the way through in the same spot!
slapcat - stop and freezes in the same spot
slapindex gets stuck as well
when I have done a strace agains these processes (slapindex, slapcat),
they seem to be pumping out schd_yeild and ps has then up s R
I have am wondering what tools there are to look at the bdbm database
files, I had a quick look at the db4_ files but they haven't been
much help.
Currently looking for a backup of the data, I have a replicated site
(fingers crossed), but I used to backup the raw files, but it seems like
I have a backup of dud files !
Alex

 

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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
Thanks for both copies of your email.

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
Jamie Wilkinson wrote:

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
 

Obviously, when you find spaces, replace
with TABS.
   


That's false.  BIND copes just fine with spaces or tabs.

 

When did this specs change. With BIND 4 this is the case,
namely: that delimiters on zone files must be TABS and not
SPACE.

BIND 9, and I'm fairly certain my RHEL 2.1 boxes use BIND 8 which also have
numerous spaces sprinkled liberally throughout them.

I find your use of BIND 4 in this modern age extraordinary!

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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
I thank you again for both copies of your email.

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
TABS are still OK because it works for me.

But I do not rely on luck when it comes to operating
computers and networks. I have to satisfy myself that
it is part of the SPECS. That's the rule I follow.

Exciting developments in the combined fields of DOMAIN NAME SERVICE and
CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT have led to two tools which I described elsewhere
in this thread -- named-checkconf and named-checkzone.

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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread O Plameras
Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
Thanks for both copies of your email.
This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
 

Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
   

This one time, at band camp, O Plameras wrote:
 

Obviously, when you find spaces, replace
with TABS.
 

   

That's false.  BIND copes just fine with spaces or tabs.

 

When did this specs change. With BIND 4 this is the case,
namely: that delimiters on zone files must be TABS and not
SPACE.
   

BIND 9, and I'm fairly certain my RHEL 2.1 boxes use BIND 8 which also have
numerous spaces sprinkled liberally throughout them.
I find your use of BIND 4 in this modern age extraordinary!
 

The SPECS I'm familiar with says at least one (1) TAB as delimiter.
I have BIND 9 on Fedora and I'll experiment.
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Re: [SLUG] Wireless PCMCIA cards - recommendations

2004-08-25 Thread Simon Males

I used to use a Linksys WPC11 card (I think that is what it was).
Frankly I was underwhelmed by it. I think it was prism, but I'm not sure
(I'm sure someone here will know about it). My current laptop has an
Atheros wireless card built in to it and it's been working superbly
pretty much since day 1. The drivers are proprietary, but available at
no cost and quite stable and functional.
You have a prism2 card, which is basically 802.11b only. Prism2 cards 
have the best support for WPA on linux. Using the hostap drivers that 
is. Not they same type of card Simon Wong is asking about.

I've not tried the sniffing etc, so I'm afraid I can't comment on that.
Is there an easy way for me to test that?
Install kismet, and you'll have to give kismet.conf a quick hack.
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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread O Plameras
Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
BIND 9, and I'm fairly certain my RHEL 2.1 boxes use BIND 8 which 
also have
numerous spaces sprinkled liberally throughout them.

I find your use of BIND 4 in this modern age extraordinary!
That's the DNS software I have in my piles of DISKETTES. I am
am using a 386 Computer with 128K Memory(not Pentium and not
128Meg)  for my DNS running the old version of Slackware. This is
a hangover from back over 10 years. I have to chuck it out soon,
I suppose.
And I just copy the zone files from there for my recent installations
and modify a bit.  I had a big problem one day with my DNS; and
I learned about this SPECS the hard way when everything seems
OK but my mail servers will not allow customers to check their
emails.  Imagine to have about five thousand customers trying to
connect to their mail and can't. The phone rings hot and 'abuses'
flies one way, to my directions. This was back in 1996.
I know that SPEC works because it worked well for me since
then.
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Re: [SLUG] Wireless PCMCIA cards - recommendations

2004-08-25 Thread Simon Males
Simon Wong wrote:
I've decided to upgrade my wireless pcmcia card to something *really*
well supported under Linux.
Its like looking for the digital holy grail.
It seems that the Prism chipsets are very well developed so after
perusing the Prism54 supported cards list
(http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php?sort_by=success_cnt) it seems
that the Netgear Wg511 and the 3com OfficeConnect 11g are the pick of
the bunch.
Got a Netgear WG511, because I basically visited the same page.
I want something that will do 128bit WEP, WPA (for when it's supported
and yes, I will use a *real* VPN later).
Can't wait till WPA support hits the streets, so I can finally WiFi at 
uni in linux.

It would be great to have something that allows you to set it up as an
AP and to sniff air traffic for testing work.
Prism2/2.5/3 cards are the one for that. Using hostap drivers, with the 
hostapd service.

Does anyone have any experience with these cards or another on the list?
Yeah its pretty good, but I keep hitting this bug.
http://prism54.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87
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Re: [SLUG] 'named' problems (dns)

2004-08-25 Thread O Plameras

BIND 9, and I'm fairly certain my RHEL 2.1 boxes use BIND 8 which 
also have
numerous spaces sprinkled liberally throughout them.

I find your use of BIND 4 in this modern age extraordinary!
 

The SPECS I'm familiar with says at least one (1) TAB as delimiter.
I have BIND 9 on Fedora and I'll experiment.

I copied my zone files from my server and changed all
TABS  and restarted my named.
It works just as well.
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Re: [SLUG] Wireless PCMCIA cards - recommendations

2004-08-25 Thread Rocci
Simon Males wrote:
Simon Wong wrote:
I've decided to upgrade my wireless pcmcia card to something *really*
well supported under Linux.

Its like looking for the digital holy grail.
It seems that the Prism chipsets are very well developed so after
perusing the Prism54 supported cards list
(http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php?sort_by=success_cnt) it seems
that the Netgear Wg511 and the 3com OfficeConnect 11g are the pick of
the bunch.

Got a Netgear WG511, because I basically visited the same page.
I want something that will do 128bit WEP, WPA (for when it's supported
and yes, I will use a *real* VPN later).

Can't wait till WPA support hits the streets, so I can finally WiFi at 
uni in linux.

It would be great to have something that allows you to set it up as an
AP and to sniff air traffic for testing work.

Prism2/2.5/3 cards are the one for that. Using hostap drivers, with 
the hostapd service.

Does anyone have any experience with these cards or another on the list?

Yeah its pretty good, but I keep hitting this bug.
http://prism54.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87
I've just installed a DLink DWL-G650 (Atheros chipset) using the MADWifi 
drivers.
I've only just managed to compile the WPA support (wpa_supplicant) 
successfully. While the wpa_supplicant binary seems to run ok and look 
for an AP,
I can't be certain it works until I test it on the uni network tomorrow.
I've had to jump through some hoops to get this card to work but I 
REALLY wanted to have network access at uni with Linux.
Hopefully my efforts will bear success.
I will post an update advising of my success or failure.

Having said that, IF you are at all thinking of going with an Atheros 
based card I suggest you visit 
http://www.mattfoster.clara.co.uk/madwifi-faq.htm first.
Then should you require WPA support, take a look at 
http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
You may not see fiery hoops as I did, but only a walk in the park. ;)

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[SLUG] Top and hyperthreading.

2004-08-25 Thread Jeff Ai
Hi guys,
 Recently i upgraded from FC1 to FC2. My machine's got a P4 2.8 HT, 
kernel is 2.6.8-1.521smp , lilo.conf has acpismp=force.

i found something quite strange.
1. cat /proc/cupinfo shows there are 2 CPUs, which is what i expected.
2. top shows only CPU. I remember with FC1 2.4.*smp kernel, i could see 
2 CPUs in top.
3. I am not noticing a dramatic change in performance, so i am not sure 
if HT is actually working on my machine.

is there anything missing?
cheers
J Ai
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Re: [SLUG] Ldap problem

2004-08-25 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:34:09PM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 
 I'd do two things to check:
 
 1. Check that your LDAP programs or systems are OK,
 by doing:
 
 ldapwhoami -x
anonymous

 
 2. Check the permissions on you LDAP DB directory.
 
 What change did you do ?
I was changing the email attribute on a record


the permissions look okay, strange it gets some way through and then
stops!

Alex

 
 
 Alexander Samad wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I seem to have run into a bit of ldap problem, I was trying to do a
 change to my ldap database and it froze the command did not seem to
 complete. I was using phpldapadmin to modify a record
 
 Since then I have had problems doing anything against the ldap db.
 
 eg ldapsearch -x - stop 1/3 of the way through in the same spot!
 slapcat - stop and freezes in the same spot
 
 slapindex gets stuck as well
 
 
 when I have done a strace agains these processes (slapindex, slapcat),
 they seem to be pumping out schd_yeild and ps has then up s R
 
 I have am wondering what tools there are to look at the bdbm database
 files, I had a quick look at the db4_ files but they haven't been
 much help.
 
 Currently looking for a backup of the data, I have a replicated site
 (fingers crossed), but I used to backup the raw files, but it seems like
 I have a backup of dud files !
 
 Alex
 
 
 
  
 
 
 


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[SLUG] Re: [chat] Unwired

2004-08-25 Thread Shaun Oliver
since when did telstra garuntee 28 k?
according to the molds server they garuntee 19.2

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Re: [SLUG] IDE Flaky on Linux ?

2004-08-25 Thread Dean Hamstead
yeah you can just get pci card - ide controllers.
but first of all i would make sure your running the latest
version of your distribution of choice.
you could upgrade your kernel (which is effectively what
im saying) but i would just stick with easy steps for now
and just make sure your distribution is up to date and
hence that your kernel is fairly new.
you would have to find out what chips you are running
exactly then see how well they are support.
generally though most of the hardware problems of the
past have gone. most of the big manufacturers now give
out specs i believe. they are pretty much killing themselves
now if they dont. i think creative pretty much proved
that being silly about it just gets your hardware
blacklisted and when you release specs (and crap
drivers) assuming your hardware is good someone will
fix them nicely. sb live is what i was refering to.
initially black listed but now probably the best sound
card for linux.
Dean
Rod Butcher wrote:
Thanks... how do I check what IDE controller I have ? I have a $99 
Gigabyte board with all Via chips. How do you use a separate controller 
? PCI board ?  (be patient with me, I'm used to Windows and don't you 
worry about that).
thanks, Rod

Dean Hamstead wrote:
ide is way better on linux than in windows
but that all depends on the support for your ide controller
chip (so basically the driver)
options include upgrading your kernel or getting another ide
controller. i just bought a nice silicon image pci ide controller
for $40 whole dollars that gives me another 2 channels ata133
Dean
Rod Butcher wrote:
Newbie here again... I think I've narrowed dow my system flakiness 
during heavy audio editing to a 10-gig Seagate IDE drive I was using 
for temp work files... switching these to the main SATA 120 gig drive 
results in a stable system. Reason for using the IDE drive was to try 
and spread the disk IO around. My IDE CDROM R/W drive is also flaky 
on Linux... both IDE devices work great on Win2K dualbooted on the 
same box. So - is IDE known to be flaky on Linux, or is it a matter 
of me configuring my system better ? The CD Burner is old anyway and 
only writes these days at 2x, so I need to get another one soon - 
question is, what type should I get to suit Linux ?
thanks
Rod


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Re: [SLUG] Ldap problem

2004-08-25 Thread David Kempe
Alexander Samad wrote:
the permissions look okay, strange it gets some way through and then
stops!
I had a similar thing today with an RPM database on redhat EL3 - I think 
it uses sleepycat DB4 type files as well. rpm -qa and stuff would just 
stop half way through.
anyway, there was some lock files that needed removing ___db4* I think.
maybe you have some of them? there might also be some sleepycat db 
repairing type tools you can use - rpm comes with a bunch of them.

whats the best/recommended way to backup these ldap databases anyway? 
dump to ldif every now and then? I would have thought copying the raw 
files would be fine, but you always run the risk of getting caught in 
the middle of a db write i spose.

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[SLUG] pdf problems with IE and Linux Apache

2004-08-25 Thread Voytek Eymont
perhaps someone might have some ideas:

I have transferred a user site from my Apache OS/2 server to Linux Apache
1.3x; it's an HTML/ flash 'static' site.

everything is working OK, EXCEPT:

the user has several directories with PDFs, these do not have a top level
HTML page, just a bunch of PDFs in a directory.

he then sends an email containg a full-q url like
'www.mydomain.tld/path/MYDOC.PDF'

yes, the file names are mixed case...(don't ask... I even offered to lower
case them myself...)

anyhow, back to the problem:

since I moved the files to the RH Apache:

on several of his systems (XP  W2K, IE6, Acrobat6), the fully Q URL will
not open by clicking;
IE offers to download the file, then returns an error 'cannot download,
host not found'

*but* the url cut'n'pasted into browser works

I have tried myself from several windoze: 98/w2k/xp with differing IE.
works properly for me; several colleagues have tried from different
windoze boxes, works OK

I'm happy to email links to anyone who would like to try, though, rather
not post them, to prevent search engine indexing

see screen shots attached (screen shots deleted from this copy as they
exceed 25k limit)

suggestions or ideas greatly appreciated...

meanwhile, I'll try looking at web logs in case I can see anything

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[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Code Fest!

2004-08-25 Thread Craige McWhirter
Revision: We are now in building G17 on the map, Electrical Engineering
(linked from the event). Photo's of the building are here:

http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/about/vtour/buildings/elec.html

Apologies for the late change.


On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 23:22, Craige McWhirter wrote:
 I know the announce is a little late (we had trouble finalising the
 room) but it's been on the calendar since January so there's no excuses!
 Here's the run down, head here for more:
 
 http://debian.slug.org.au/events/detail.html?id=133
 
 When: 
 Saturday, August 28, 10:00am - 6:00pm 
 Where: 
 University of New South Wales 
 We're holding a Debian RC Bug Squish and Code Fest. The idea of of the
 day is to have a social, coding day, learn a few things and maybe close
 some Debian RC Bugs, for which we will be having prizes etc for a
 variety of achievements such as closing the most bugs, closing the most
 difficult bug, closing the most important bug. The winners will be
 chosen by those attending the day.
 
 Full details, including a map and directions are at the above URL. See
 you there!
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Re: [SLUG] Top and hyperthreading.

2004-08-25 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 21:50 +1000, Jeff Ai wrote:
 1. cat /proc/cupinfo shows there are 2 CPUs, which is what i expected.
 2. top shows only CPU.

Did you try pressing the '1' key when top was running? It should toggle
between showing a single aggregate line for all CPUs, and a summary line
for each CPU.

[I'm on a dual CPU system, not HT, but...]

AfC
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Re: [SLUG] Ldap problem

2004-08-25 Thread O Plameras
I assume you are using LDAP as your password
server for Samba ?
If you do, use LDAP Account Manager(LAM) from,
http://lam.sourceforge.net
to maintain Samba Accounts. I use  LAM to enter
accounts and modify them; and I use PhpLdapAdmin
to view these accounts because it has tools to display
the details of accounts. My Samba works well with
openLDAP using LAM.
I've used PhpLdapAdmin to maintain Samba Accounts
before, but the fields do not correspond accordingly. And
I have similar problems as you do, ldapsearch freezes. I
did not bother to investigate why. I do not have much
time, I suppose.
I use openldap-2.1.xx.  I also have problems similar to
what you have describe when using openldap-2.2.xx.
List on [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested
to recompile all my other software related to or
interacting with openldap-2.2.xx. Did not have time to test.
Alexander Samad wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:34:09PM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 

I'd do two things to check:
1. Check that your LDAP programs or systems are OK,
by doing:
ldapwhoami -x
   

anonymous
 

2. Check the permissions on you LDAP DB directory.
What change did you do ?
   

I was changing the email attribute on a record
the permissions look okay, strange it gets some way through and then
stops!
Alex
 

Alexander Samad wrote:
   

Hi
I seem to have run into a bit of ldap problem, I was trying to do a
change to my ldap database and it froze the command did not seem to
complete. I was using phpldapadmin to modify a record
Since then I have had problems doing anything against the ldap db.
eg ldapsearch -x - stop 1/3 of the way through in the same spot!
slapcat - stop and freezes in the same spot
slapindex gets stuck as well
when I have done a strace agains these processes (slapindex, slapcat),
they seem to be pumping out schd_yeild and ps has then up s R
I have am wondering what tools there are to look at the bdbm database
files, I had a quick look at the db4_ files but they haven't been
much help.
Currently looking for a backup of the data, I have a replicated site
(fingers crossed), but I used to backup the raw files, but it seems like
I have a backup of dud files !
Alex


 

 

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Re: [SLUG] Ldap problem

2004-08-25 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:34:43PM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 
 I assume you are using LDAP as your password
 server for Samba ?

no, address book

 
 If you do, use LDAP Account Manager(LAM) from,
 
 http://lam.sourceforge.net
 
 to maintain Samba Accounts. I use  LAM to enter
 accounts and modify them; and I use PhpLdapAdmin
 to view these accounts because it has tools to display
 the details of accounts. My Samba works well with
 openLDAP using LAM.
 
 I've used PhpLdapAdmin to maintain Samba Accounts
 before, but the fields do not correspond accordingly. And
 I have similar problems as you do, ldapsearch freezes. I
 did not bother to investigate why. I do not have much
 time, I suppose.
 
 I use openldap-2.1.xx.  I also have problems similar to
 what you have describe when using openldap-2.2.xx.
 List on [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested
 to recompile all my other software related to or
 interacting with openldap-2.2.xx. Did not have time to test.
 
 Alexander Samad wrote:
 
 On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:34:09PM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
  
 
 I'd do two things to check:
 
 1. Check that your LDAP programs or systems are OK,
 by doing:
 
 ldapwhoami -x

 
 anonymous
 
  
 
 2. Check the permissions on you LDAP DB directory.
 
 What change did you do ?

 
 I was changing the email attribute on a record
 
 
 the permissions look okay, strange it gets some way through and then
 stops!
 
 Alex
 
  
 
 Alexander Samad wrote:
 

 
 Hi
 
 I seem to have run into a bit of ldap problem, I was trying to do a
 change to my ldap database and it froze the command did not seem to
 complete. I was using phpldapadmin to modify a record
 
 Since then I have had problems doing anything against the ldap db.
 
 eg ldapsearch -x - stop 1/3 of the way through in the same spot!
 slapcat - stop and freezes in the same spot
 
 slapindex gets stuck as well
 
 
 when I have done a strace agains these processes (slapindex, slapcat),
 they seem to be pumping out schd_yeild and ps has then up s R
 
 I have am wondering what tools there are to look at the bdbm database
 files, I had a quick look at the db4_ files but they haven't been
 much help.
 
 Currently looking for a backup of the data, I have a replicated site
 (fingers crossed), but I used to backup the raw files, but it seems like
 I have a backup of dud files !
 
 Alex
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 


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Re: [SLUG] Ldap problem

2004-08-25 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:10:40PM +1000, David Kempe wrote:
 Alexander Samad wrote:
 
 the permissions look okay, strange it gets some way through and then
 stops!
 
 
 I had a similar thing today with an RPM database on redhat EL3 - I think 
 it uses sleepycat DB4 type files as well. rpm -qa and stuff would just 
 stop half way through.
 anyway, there was some lock files that needed removing ___db4* I think.
 maybe you have some of them? there might also be some sleepycat db 
 repairing type tools you can use - rpm comes with a bunch of them.

thank you thank you

removed the files and it all started to work again

 
 whats the best/recommended way to backup these ldap databases anyway? 
 dump to ldif every now and then? I would have thought copying the raw 
 files would be fine, but you always run the risk of getting caught in 
 the middle of a db write i spose.

I am doing both, but I shut down the ldap db and then copy the files, I
now also slapcat -l as well but with versioning now

 
 dave
 


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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Unwired

2004-08-25 Thread James Gray
Shaun Oliver wrote:
Someone much smarter than I, on Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:05:49AM +1000, spake thus.
Does anyone have any experience of unwired.. .good, bad or ugly? My
daughter is getting 12Kb on her dial up because of crappy phone lines and
I'm wondering how good an alternative this is.
She has a Macintosh which the web site says are supported. Sadly, linux
isn't mentioned - does anyone have any clues about linux connectivity? or
does it just connect to an ethernet port like anything else?
As I understand it dave, unwired uses a nonstandard proprietory 
implementation of wireless.
I doubt you'll be able to connect it easily to a linux machine as it 
doesn't conform to the 802.11b standard I think it is. someone can 
correct me on that standard number at any rate.
hth
I use a wireless ISP here in Wollongong (Fish Internet - Etherwave 
http://www.fishinternet.com.au/broadband_intro.php).  As I have a 
business connection plan, they provided me with a Cisco Aironet350 
Workgroup Bridge (shweet).  I simply plug it into my (Debian) firewall 
via a cross-over cable and that's it.  Assign IP's to my network (I have 
a /27 subnet) and I'm done.

Their consumer product uses a less flashy box, which AFIAK has both 
USB and Ethernet connection options.  Then, like most broadband 
modems, hands out an IP via DHCP etc.  The guys at Fish Internet don't 
officially support Linux, but their tech guys use it extensively and 
can unofficially provide $CLUE ;)

Bandwidth?  I see up to about 2Mbps synchronous when things aren't too 
busy, but when all the script kiddies get on between about 3pm-6pm it 
drops off to about 256kbps.  The ISP is clueful though, and will be 
de-prioritising P2P traffic in the near future as this is what sucks up 
the bandwidth during those busy hours.  Even with the drawbacks of a 
multi-homed network, for $110/mth, 32 IP's, and 5Gb of data (their 
consumer product has a more consumer price)...it's not bad. 
Especially when you consider we can't get cable, *DSL etc. in our area.

So that's my experience with wireless broadband.
Cheers,
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[SLUG] parental control ?

2004-08-25 Thread Voytek
what can be used to provide 'parental-control' to an intranet, that is, to
control what sites can be accessed by intranet users ?


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Re: [SLUG] parental control ?

2004-08-25 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 08:08, Voytek wrote:
 what can be used to provide 'parental-control' to an intranet, that is, to
 control what sites can be accessed by intranet users ?

Squid proxy springs to mind.  Run it somewhere so that all http requests
get redirected to it then set up the proxy ACLs to do what you want.

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Re: [SLUG] Top and hyperthreading.

2004-08-25 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Jeff Ai wrote:

 Hi guys,
   Recently i upgraded from FC1 to FC2. My machine's got a P4 2.8 HT,
 kernel is 2.6.8-1.521smp , lilo.conf has acpismp=force.

 i found something quite strange.
 1. cat /proc/cupinfo shows there are 2 CPUs, which is what i expected.
 2. top shows only CPU. I remember with FC1 2.4.*smp kernel, i could see
 2 CPUs in top.
 3. I am not noticing a dramatic change in performance, so i am not sure
 if HT is actually working on my machine.

 is there anything missing?

Try pressing 1 or I when running top.

By default, top displays a total of CPU useage/time. Pressing 1 changes
the display to show individual CPU's.

Of course, this assumes your kernel is actually using both CPU's - have
you compiled/booted with an SMP enabled kernel?

DaZZa

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Re: [SLUG] Top and hyperthreading.

2004-08-25 Thread Darren Williams
Hi Jeff
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Jeff Ai wrote:

 Hi guys,
  Recently i upgraded from FC1 to FC2. My machine's got a P4 2.8 HT, 
 kernel is 2.6.8-1.521smp , lilo.conf has acpismp=force.
 
 i found something quite strange.
 1. cat /proc/cupinfo shows there are 2 CPUs, which is what i expected.
 2. top shows only CPU. I remember with FC1 2.4.*smp kernel, i could see 
 2 CPUs in top.
 3. I am not noticing a dramatic change in performance, so i am not sure 
 if HT is actually working on my machine.
 
 is there anything missing?
 
 cheers
 
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Just using SMP kernels is not enough to get the
full advantage of HTing. The problem is that
the second CPU is a virtual CPU and the SMP
code does not recognise it properly and will
in some cases starve it from being scheduled,
thus you end up with a UNI processor system.

Looking at the FC2 release notes they are using
the 2.6 kernel though you will need to check to
see if they have enabled symmetric multi-
threading(SMT) when building the the kernel.

SMT in general has not quite matured yet with
development still being done today in the latest
kernel releases. If you would like to take full
advantage of SMT I suggest you keep up to date
with the latest kernels and build your own.

That said I am am using a HT processor with
a SMT kernel 2.6.7 and do see improvements in build
times using the -j option with make. 

There are however other issues with 2.6.x that
you may be seeing. Many users are reporting
that there desktop is sluggish in response
times, ripping music sometimes fails or that
the machine they are running goes into swap
hell (whenever you start a process it takes
longer than normal to load and there is a lot
of disk activity). If you are seeing any of these
symptoms I suggest you go to lkml.org and do a
search on your problem, there will be an answer.

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Re: [SLUG] IDE Flaky on Linux ?

2004-08-25 Thread Dean Hamstead
the ide driver will be built into the kernel.
you can either type 'lspci' or watch while your machine
boots or look in /var/log/messages
it could be a conflict with pata and sata buts hard to
say without more details you know. your kernel is a little
old but not chronically old. it would be worth updating
if possible. i dont know if mandrake has a nice update
method or not. thats kind of why i use debian. but mandrake
will still rock your world.
but without knowing specifically what your hardware is
its hard to say if there are known problems and what the
state of support linux has for your hardware.
Dean
Rod Butcher wrote:
Thanks Dean. Is it possible that IDE doesn't work too well together with 
SATA ? I have Mandrake 2.6.3 kernel, and I don't want to touch it for a 
few months yet... by then I'll have a list of things to do to it !
It's stable now and I want to keep it that way.
What command do I issue to find out what IDE driver is loaded ? Is it a 
module or builtin to the kernel ? The Controller and devices must be OK 
if they work OK for Win 2k, so it can only be driver or incompatibility 
with SATA surely ?
thanks
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Dean Hamstead wrote:
yeah you can just get pci card - ide controllers.
but first of all i would make sure your running the latest
version of your distribution of choice.
you could upgrade your kernel (which is effectively what
im saying) but i would just stick with easy steps for now
and just make sure your distribution is up to date and
hence that your kernel is fairly new.
you would have to find out what chips you are running
exactly then see how well they are support.
generally though most of the hardware problems of the
past have gone. most of the big manufacturers now give
out specs i believe. they are pretty much killing themselves
now if they dont. i think creative pretty much proved
that being silly about it just gets your hardware
blacklisted and when you release specs (and crap
drivers) assuming your hardware is good someone will
fix them nicely. sb live is what i was refering to.
initially black listed but now probably the best sound
card for linux.
Dean
Rod Butcher wrote:
Thanks... how do I check what IDE controller I have ? I have a $99 
Gigabyte board with all Via chips. How do you use a separate 
controller ? PCI board ?  (be patient with me, I'm used to Windows 
and don't you worry about that).
thanks, Rod

Dean Hamstead wrote:
ide is way better on linux than in windows
but that all depends on the support for your ide controller
chip (so basically the driver)
options include upgrading your kernel or getting another ide
controller. i just bought a nice silicon image pci ide controller
for $40 whole dollars that gives me another 2 channels ata133
Dean
Rod Butcher wrote:
Newbie here again... I think I've narrowed dow my system 
flakiness during heavy audio editing to a 10-gig Seagate IDE drive 
I was using for temp work files... switching these to the main SATA 
120 gig drive results in a stable system. Reason for using the IDE 
drive was to try and spread the disk IO around. My IDE CDROM R/W 
drive is also flaky on Linux... both IDE devices work great on 
Win2K dualbooted on the same box. So - is IDE known to be flaky on 
Linux, or is it a matter of me configuring my system better ? The 
CD Burner is old anyway and only writes these days at 2x, so I need 
to get another one soon - question is, what type should I get to 
suit Linux ?
thanks
Rod





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Re: [SLUG] Wireless PCMCIA cards - recommendations

2004-08-25 Thread Simon Wong
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 21:16, Simon Males wrote:
 Its like looking for the digital holy grail.

Feels like it :-)

 Can't wait till WPA support hits the streets, so I can finally WiFi at 
 uni in linux.

Yeah, what a drag!

 Prism2/2.5/3 cards are the one for that. Using hostap drivers, with the 
 hostapd service.

Okay but the thing is working out which damn cards have which chipsets
:-(

I feel I'm stuck in a Google whirlpool...

 
  Does anyone have any experience with these cards or another on the list?
 
 Yeah its pretty good, but I keep hitting this bug.
 
 http://prism54.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87

I'm wondering whether to stick with 802.11b for the moment and find a
Prism2/2.5/3 based card.

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[SLUG] Spare Sun Serial Splitter?

2004-08-25 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hey gang,

Does anyone going to the meeting tomorrow night have a spare Sun serial
splitter that I could borrow? I have a 220R under my desk that needs some
serial console loving before it can be used for great justice. ;-)

Thanks,

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Spare Sun Serial Splitter?

2004-08-25 Thread Dave Airlie

I always thought you could just use a standard 25-9 cable if you only
wanted one port... but I could be wrong.. it's been a long time since I
was that involved with a Sun :-)

Dave.

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:

 Hey gang,

 Does anyone going to the meeting tomorrow night have a spare Sun serial
 splitter that I could borrow? I have a 220R under my desk that needs some
 serial console loving before it can be used for great justice. ;-)

 Thanks,

 - Jeff



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Re: [SLUG] Spare Sun Serial Splitter?

2004-08-25 Thread Peter Rundle
I always thought you could just use a standard 25-9 cable if you only
wanted one port... 
Correct. 2, 3  7 are wired as per normal rs232. The second and third 
serial ports are wired to other pins (sorry don't know which ones) and the 
splitter just wires them back to 2, 3  7.

P.
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Re: [SLUG] New to Linux: Suse 9.1 RE: NIC

2004-08-25 Thread teddyapostol
Thanks James, 
 
I pulled out the 2nd NIC and followed the steps. 
Presto! It works without sweat! 
 
Now what happens to my 2nd NIC? 
Can I plugged-in as a 2nd NIC and plugged-in 
a cable so that there will be 2 cards for 
easier flow of data?  
 
Would 2 cards make the flow of data from this 
machine faster? 
 
Kind regards, 
 
Teddy 
 
Quoting James Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 
 TedA wrote: 
  Can you please offer direction or assistance on what I am doing. 
  I have a new Suse Linux 9.1 Professional on an AMD PC 
  I am trying to get to work the Network Interface CArd on Board 
  Rhine VII. I have a 4 port switch and a new DSL 
  When the linux boots up there is a message regarding the 
  ethernet card eth0 and that failed written in red. Likewise 
  to the second card. The cat 5 rj 45 is connected to the on-board 
  ethernet card (though I have a second eth0 card) not plugged. 
  This 2nd card I think recompiling which as a newbie I don't how to 
  get this compiling fo the 2nd card. I prefer to get the first eth0 
  get working. Please assist or direct. 
   
  Thanks and much appreciated. 
   
  Teddy 
  
 I too use SuSE 9.1 Pro on an AMD64 machine and it's a great combination. 
  
 Googling for VIA Rhine VII didn't reveal anything (plenty for Rhine-II  
 chipsets though; you sure it's Rhine VII??).  Although you will  
 probably get some mileage from trying the via-rhine kernel module (it  
 should support all current VIA Rhine chipsets). 
  
 SuSE's kernel's are pretty comprehensive - you shouldn't need to  
 recompile anything unless it's truly exotic hardware ;) 
  
 Here's how I would approach your problem: 
  
 1. Power down the system and remove the PCI (2nd) Ethernet card and plug  
 your cable into the on-board Ethernet. 
  
 2. Restart and boot into Linux. 
  
 3. Start YAST and go to the Hardware section then open Hardware  
 Information.  This will start a detection process and can take a while  
 (several minutes on a slow machine - my Athlon64 takes about 30sec). 
  
 4. Expand the Network Card and see what it has detected.  If you are  
 using a VIA on-board Ethernet controller you should see something like  
 VIA  Ethernet 10/100Base-T Adapter.  This step will confirm that  
 SuSE has found your network card.  If not, then you have problems,  
 report back here with the results. 
  
 5. Close the hardware info window and go back to YAST.  Select the  
 Network Devices and open Network Card.  A new window will appear. 
  
 6. From here (the window that opened) you can configure your detected  
 network card. 
  
 If nothing was detected in #4, you probably have an incompatible card.  
 If that's the case, shutdown, install the PCI Ethernet card again (plug  
 the Ethernet cable into this card now), disable the on-board Ethernet in  
 your BIOS, and repeat steps #2-6. 
  
 If you get stuck, report back here with any and all errors you receive.  
   Write them down or something - we can't replay error messages from our  
 end. ;)  BTW, some more details about your hardware would be useful.  
 What make/model motherboard is it?  Your 2nd Ethernet card - make/model?  
   Linux kernel version would be helpful too (uname -a from a command  
 prompt). 
  
 Good luck, 
  
 James 
  
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Spare Sun Serial Splitter?

2004-08-25 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:43:38 +1000, Peter Rundle wrote:

 Correct. 2, 3  7 are wired as per normal rs232. The second and third 
 serial ports are wired to other pins (sorry don't know which ones) and the 
 splitter just wires them back to 2, 3  7.

The pinout varies:

http://www.stokely.com/unix.serial.port.resources/A-B-Ycablepinout.html

although it says that a 220R has two separate DB25 ports.  This
document:

http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/806-1081-10/6jad2hnsg?a=view

also says that there are two DB25 connectors with standard RS-232
pinout.


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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Unwired

2004-08-25 Thread Phil Mnuel
Exetel are going to start reselling Unwired's service at a lot less than 
Unwired in September.  From what I've seen on the web sites there is two 
forms of the modem, one for USB connection the other with an Ethernet port.  
In theory there shouldn't be a problem using the ethernet one with Linux.

Phil.

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:38 am, James Gray wrote:
 Shaun Oliver wrote:
  Someone much smarter than I, on Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:05:49AM +1000,
  spake thus.
 
 Does anyone have any experience of unwired.. .good, bad or ugly? My
 daughter is getting 12Kb on her dial up because of crappy phone lines and
 I'm wondering how good an alternative this is.
 
 She has a Macintosh which the web site says are supported. Sadly, linux
 isn't mentioned - does anyone have any clues about linux connectivity? or
 does it just connect to an ethernet port like anything else?
 
  As I understand it dave, unwired uses a nonstandard proprietory
  implementation of wireless.
  I doubt you'll be able to connect it easily to a linux machine as it
  doesn't conform to the 802.11b standard I think it is. someone can
  correct me on that standard number at any rate.
  hth

 I use a wireless ISP here in Wollongong (Fish Internet - Etherwave
 http://www.fishinternet.com.au/broadband_intro.php).  As I have a
 business connection plan, they provided me with a Cisco Aironet350
 Workgroup Bridge (shweet).  I simply plug it into my (Debian) firewall
 via a cross-over cable and that's it.  Assign IP's to my network (I have
 a /27 subnet) and I'm done.

 Their consumer product uses a less flashy box, which AFIAK has both
 USB and Ethernet connection options.  Then, like most broadband
 modems, hands out an IP via DHCP etc.  The guys at Fish Internet don't
 officially support Linux, but their tech guys use it extensively and
 can unofficially provide $CLUE ;)

 Bandwidth?  I see up to about 2Mbps synchronous when things aren't too
 busy, but when all the script kiddies get on between about 3pm-6pm it
 drops off to about 256kbps.  The ISP is clueful though, and will be
 de-prioritising P2P traffic in the near future as this is what sucks up
 the bandwidth during those busy hours.  Even with the drawbacks of a
 multi-homed network, for $110/mth, 32 IP's, and 5Gb of data (their
 consumer product has a more consumer price)...it's not bad.
 Especially when you consider we can't get cable, *DSL etc. in our area.

 So that's my experience with wireless broadband.

 Cheers,

 James
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Re: [SLUG] parental control ?

2004-08-25 Thread mlh
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:08:15AM +1000, Voytek wrote:
 what can be used to provide 'parental-control' to an intranet, that is, to
 control what sites can be accessed by intranet users ?

http://dansguardian.org/

(though i've never used it myself)

Matt
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