Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

2004-09-08 Thread Craige McWhirter

Robert Collins said:

 I'm looking at an iRiver 320 or 340 myself. 16 hours playtime. yummy.

The iRiver 700 and 800 series look nice too with Ogg support.

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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

2004-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Terry Collins

 damselfly:/etc/apt# apt-get install sound-juicer
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 E: Couldn't find package sound-juicer

 debian woody.

You definitely won't get sound-juicer love on woody. You'll need sarge or
sid. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

2004-09-08 Thread Craige McWhirter

Terry Collins said:

 E: Couldn't find package sound_juicer

 debian woody.

Ah there's my assumption that every Debian desktop runs Sid biting me in
the arse. I've also assumed it is a desktop :)
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[SLUG] VOIP Gateway....

2004-09-08 Thread scott
Hey Sluggers,
Has anyone investigated some sort of VOIP gateway on Linux that forwards 
landline calls?
This VOIP software would have a specific purpose, it answers calls from a 
serial modem, then forwards the voice over the internet.
Example is I would call from home on a landline to the modem sitting on a 
Linux box, this Linux box, then accepts the call over voice, then 
translated it to voip and sent over the internet to our head office in the 
UK, where it is accepted by their voip gateway alerts whoever there that 
needs to answer the call.

Firstly, this would only need to be a one on one voip solution (only 
between us and the UK), but if it can be extended to accept DTMF codes to 
go elsewhere, bonus.
Secondly, it would be nice to be able to interface it with our PABX in the 
office (commander system), but again, not necessary, users in the office 
can use their PC.

Has anyone investigated this, partly investigated this or *any* hints at 
all on how I would go about this?

Thanks,

Scott

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Re: [SLUG] VOIP Gateway....

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 16:40 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Sluggers,
 Has anyone investigated some sort of VOIP gateway on Linux that forwards 
 landline calls?

I'd start with asterix and work out from there,

Rob


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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

2004-09-08 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Brett Fenton wrote:
umm  because 99% of portable music players don't support the formats?

iAudio, iRiver support ogg

iPod, and one other brand I can't recall right now don't.

that's 50% each way.

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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

2004-09-08 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Craige McWhirter wrote:

Robert Collins said:

 I'm looking at an iRiver 320 or 340 myself. 16 hours playtime. yummy.

The iRiver 700 and 800 series look nice too with Ogg support.

[objeffwhisper: they all have Ogg support]

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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

2004-09-08 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 04:56 pm, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Craige McWhirter wrote:
 Robert Collins said:
  I'm looking at an iRiver 320 or 340 myself. 16 hours playtime. yummy.
 
 The iRiver 700 and 800 series look nice too with Ogg support.

 [objeffwhisper: they all have Ogg support]

The CD/MP3 player from iRiver (the iMP-550: 
http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iMP-550) doesn't support 
ogg  otherwise I'd already have one :)

I took a multi-session CDR with CD Audio, OGG, Flac, and MP3 tracks on it in 
for a test (Fletchers Photographics, Pitt St, Sydney - they're across the 
road from my office :) and it only found the CD Audio tracks and the MP3 
files.  According to iRiver it only supports MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3, WMA, and 
ASF.  But AFAIK all their hard-drive and NVRAM based players support OGG.

Cheers,

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[SLUG] embperl and its mail function

2004-09-08 Thread Dean Hamstead
i cant seem to make sense of how to use embperl's inbuilt
email functions
can someone send me a quick example
even a link found on google ;)
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[SLUG] How to fix a memory leak in an old kernel

2004-09-08 Thread chris
I'm running RH 8 with kernel version 2.4.18-27.8.0 and this version seems 
to fail to release memory after a while in that I have to resort to 
rebooting the system. I've tried version 2.4.20-13.8 and that seems to 
have the problem fixed, but I can't move to that version of the kernel 
because the SCO binary compatiblity module seems to be missing.

How can I fix the memory without losing my SCO binary compatibility?
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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

2004-09-08 Thread Craige McWhirter

Jamie Wilkinson said:
 This one time, at band camp, Craige McWhirter wrote:

Robert Collins said:

 I'm looking at an iRiver 320 or 340 myself. 16 hours playtime. yummy.

The iRiver 700 and 800 series look nice too with Ogg support.

 [objeffwhisper: they all have Ogg support]

Perhaps, but the support is only listed on their website for the 700+800
models (of all the models I checked, anyway).
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Re: [SLUG] VOIP Gateway....

2004-09-08 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 16:48, Robert Collins wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 16:40 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey Sluggers,
  Has anyone investigated some sort of VOIP gateway on Linux that forwards 
  landline calls?
 
 I'd start with asterix and work out from there,

I concur, and you will need an FXO card to connect to the PSTN or a
suitable BRI card for ISDN interfacing.

BTW, what soft phone, or softphone/handset combo are ppl using?
 
 Rob
 
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Re: [SLUG] VOIP Gateway....

2004-09-08 Thread Guy Ellis
Hi Scott,
Asterisk is the way to go.
There are two BRI cards approved and available in .au that work with Asterisk.
The Fritz PCI card at around $350, or a NETjet PCI card at about half the 
price.

To be honest the Fritz driver has better echo cancellation at the moment 
but I'm working on this.

Kind regards,
 - Guy.

At 04:40 PM 8/09/2004 +1000, you wrote:
Hey Sluggers,
Has anyone investigated some sort of VOIP gateway on Linux that forwards
landline calls?
This VOIP software would have a specific purpose, it answers calls from a
serial modem, then forwards the voice over the internet.
Example is I would call from home on a landline to the modem sitting on a
Linux box, this Linux box, then accepts the call over voice, then
translated it to voip and sent over the internet to our head office in the
UK, where it is accepted by their voip gateway alerts whoever there that
needs to answer the call.
Firstly, this would only need to be a one on one voip solution (only
between us and the UK), but if it can be extended to accept DTMF codes to
go elsewhere, bonus.
Secondly, it would be nice to be able to interface it with our PABX in the
office (commander system), but again, not necessary, users in the office
can use their PC.
Has anyone investigated this, partly investigated this or *any* hints at
all on how I would go about this?
Thanks,
Scott
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Re: [SLUG] embperl and its mail function

2004-09-08 Thread gavin
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 05:32:11PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 i cant seem to make sense of how to use embperl's inbuilt
 email functions

 can someone send me a quick example

 even a link found on google ;)

[ Okay, first version get held for moderation by Mailman, with a
  'Message has a suspicious header' warning - I'll try adding a 
  Message-ID ]

Reply sent via HTML::Embperl::Mail :-), using:

 perl -MEmail::MessageID -MTime::Piece -MHTML::Embperl::Mail -le 
HTML::Embperl::Mail::Execute({ 
   inputfile = 'reply-to-dean.epl', 
   subject = 'Re: [SLUG] embperl and its mail function', 
   to = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 
   from = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 
   mailheaders = [ 
 'In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]', 
 'Date: ' . localtime-strftime('%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z'),
 'Message-ID: ' . Email::MessageID-new,
 'X-Mailer: HTML::Embperl::Mail',
   ] }) 

reply-to-dean.epl is the mail template, and contains exactly what you're 
reading here, except that embperl stuff gets executed as expected e.g.
[+ localtime +] gets expanded to: Wed Sep  8 20:59:19 2004.

HTH,
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Re: [SLUG] embperl and its mail function

2004-09-08 Thread Dean Hamstead
im more after how i would use embperls mail functions in a web page
Dean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 05:32:11PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
i cant seem to make sense of how to use embperl's inbuiltr 
email functions

can someone send me a quick example
even a link found on google ;)

[ Okay, first version get held for moderation by Mailman, with a
  'Message has a suspicious header' warning - I'll try adding a 
  Message-ID ]

Reply sent via HTML::Embperl::Mail :-), using:
 perl -MEmail::MessageID -MTime::Piece -MHTML::Embperl::Mail -le HTML::Embperl::Mail::Execute({ 
   inputfile = 'reply-to-dean.epl', 
   subject = 'Re: [SLUG] embperl and its mail function', 
   to = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 
   from = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 
   mailheaders = [ 
 'In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]', 
 'Date: ' . localtime-strftime('%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z'),
 'Message-ID: ' . Email::MessageID-new,
 'X-Mailer: HTML::Embperl::Mail',
   ] }) 

reply-to-dean.epl is the mail template, and contains exactly what you're 
reading here, except that embperl stuff gets executed as expected e.g.
[+ localtime +] gets expanded to: Wed Sep  8 20:59:19 2004.

HTH,
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[SLUG] GRIC Dialer for Linux - I made one (fwd)

2004-09-08 Thread Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux
Just thought other people might be interested in this if you're travelling 
the world with your Linux laptop. I've got a customer who regularly makes 
trips to random cities Europe and Asia and as such happened to get global 
roaming access through Telstra. What then happens is they refer you to 
this windows software called GRICdial which has 2 purposes. 1) has an 
updatable database of ISP's around the world you can login via and 2) to 
actually setup the connection. My customer is not technical and now uses a 
Linux desktop to VNC back to head office.

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:13:33 +1000 (EST)
From: Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GRIC Dialer for Linux - I made one

Attention GRIC/GoRemote technical support staff,

There is now a starting point for Linux and Linux-like users who wish to
use your global roaming services. In response to a customer of mine who
isn't very technical I've come up with simple system that can consult your
database (like the Windows GRIC dialer does) and initiate a dialup
connection to any of the ISP's around the world participating.

The URL for the project is currently here:-
http://www.linuxhelp.com.au/~grant

The software is very generic and as such should work on most varieties of 
Linux whether using graphics or just text mode. It just uses ppp, ncurses, 
perl and dialog packages. It's also CPU architecture independant as it's 
just text and script files.

Please consider adding this information to your technical FAQ at this web 
location:-
http://www.goremote.com/pdfs/faqs_tech.pdf

With a little further work it's probably worthy of including in your 
download section. Given a few screenshots and so forth it would be 
possible for ISP's helpdesks to understand how it works without actually 
having to run it, therefore it could be said that Linux is now a supported 
operating system.

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[SLUG] Meta: Mailing list filtering

2004-09-08 Thread Peter Hardy
On 09/08/04 20:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ Okay, first version get held for moderation by Mailman, with a
  'Message has a suspicious header' warning - I'll try adding a 
  Message-ID ]
For what it's worth, mailman is indeed set up to hold anything for 
moderation if it doesn't have a valid Message-ID header.

Even though every RFC I've read says the Message-ID is only recommended, 
there's only a very small number of real MUAs that don't set their own. 
In the two years or so since I added that rule, there's only been one 
false positive that I recall. At the time, however, it cut through 
something like half of the spam that was reaching the list. (Can you 
tell it's my favourite piece of filtering ever? ;-)

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RE: [SLUG] How to fix a memory leak in an old kernel

2004-09-08 Thread Saenz, Kevin
I think your problem might be with the SCO binaries rather than a kernel
problem,
I could be possible that the version of Libc you are running to compile
2.4.20-13 could have conflicts with the libraries required for SCO. The
best way to fix the problem is kill SCO binaries. ;-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2004 5:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] How to fix a memory leak in an old kernel


I'm running RH 8 with kernel version 2.4.18-27.8.0 and this version
seems 
to fail to release memory after a while in that I have to resort to 
rebooting the system. I've tried version 2.4.20-13.8 and that seems to 
have the problem fixed, but I can't move to that version of the kernel 
because the SCO binary compatiblity module seems to be missing.

How can I fix the memory without losing my SCO binary compatibility?


Chris

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[SLUG] Re: How to fix a memory leak in an old kernel

2004-09-08 Thread chris
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:39:33 +1000, Saenz, Kevin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think your problem might be with the SCO binaries rather than a kernel
problem,
I could be possible that the version of Libc you are running to compile
2.4.20-13 could have conflicts with the libraries required for SCO. The
best way to fix the problem is kill SCO binaries. ;-)
I don't think that is the case because I've been running the SCO binary 
for some time now. Only recently, I've started using Eclipse as well. As a 
result, I've had to increase the machines memory from 192Mb to 512Mb. How, 
with the extra memory, Eclipse 3.0 (with JRE 1.4.2-05) been more useable, 
but even then, when Eclipse runs out of memory, I have to reboot the 
machine.

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[SLUG] start scripts on Debian

2004-09-08 Thread David

I'm installing netatalk from a tarball. Quoting from the docs:

 $ ./configure --help

  * --enable-[redhat/suse/gentoo/cobalt/netbsd/fhs]
This option helps netatalk to determine where to install the start
scripts.

Because I was installing on Debian I didn't use this option, and there
were no start scripts installed at all.

Can anyone suggest which option out of these might work for Debian. Or
any other suggestion.

Second question: Having done the usual configure/make/make-install, what's
the approved way to remove everything that was installed?

thanks...

David.

PS: apt-get is not an option because the latest version doesn't seem to be
available.
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Re: [SLUG] start scripts on Debian

2004-09-08 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 10:38:22AM +1000, David wrote:
   * --enable-[redhat/suse/gentoo/cobalt/netbsd/fhs]
 This option helps netatalk to determine where to install the start
 scripts.
 Can anyone suggest which option out of these might work for Debian. Or
 any other suggestion.

FHS sounds like as good a start as any ...

 Second question: Having done the usual configure/make/make-install, what's
 the approved way to remove everything that was installed?

Unless they include a make uninstall type target, you're out of luck
other than picking through by hand.  That's why people invented
packaging systems :)

 PS: apt-get is not an option because the latest version doesn't seem to be
 available.

Why don't you apt-get source netatalk and try updating the existing
package to your version (I or any number of others can help, but
basically just try copying the /debian directory of the downloaded
source to your new tarball and run dpkg-buildpackage and see if it
works).  If it hasn't changed significantly it's probably pretty easy
to do, and depending on how active the maintainer is maybe someone can
NMU it for you.

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[SLUG] LCA 2004 DVD mirrored at Optusnet

2004-09-08 Thread Peter Chubb

See http://www.mirror.optusnet.com.au/lca/

*Much* faster than getting it from the original site!

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Re: [SLUG] LCA 2004 DVD mirrored at Optusnet

2004-09-08 Thread O Plameras
Depends which ISP you are connected.
My download is fastest from PlanetMirror.
I found OptusNet is slower from my ISP.
Peter Chubb wrote:
See http://www.mirror.optusnet.com.au/lca/
*Much* faster than getting it from the original site!
 

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Re: [SLUG] start scripts on Debian

2004-09-08 Thread Simon Wong
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:38, David wrote:
 Second question: Having done the usual configure/make/make-install, what's
 the approved way to remove everything that was installed?

There is a package called stow that is great for installing non-packaged
applications.

You configure your source to install into the Stow directory e.g.
/usr/local/stow/application-0.12

Then use stow to install where you want.  It makes sym links to the
actual application e.g. /usr/bin/app -
/usr/local/stow/application-0.12/bin/app

I always install into a dir witht he version number in the name so you
can parallel install diff versions in the stow directory.

IBM DeveloperWorks have a nice tutorial:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-stow/

Stow will also remove the symlinks for you.

Another thing to note is that you can give make the -n flag so it will
show you what it's going to do befoe it actually does it.  This is a
good way to check what's going to be clobbered.

e.g.

$ make -n install


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Re: [SLUG] LCA 2004 DVD mirrored at Optusnet

2004-09-08 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:13:00AM +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
 
 See http://www.mirror.optusnet.com.au/lca/
 
 *Much* faster than getting it from the original site!
 

http://twiki.linux.org.au/twiki/bin/view/Main/LCA2004Videos

I bet ProgSoc (at AARNet speeds) beats Optus though ...

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Re: [SLUG] LCA 2004 DVD mirrored at Optusnet

2004-09-08 Thread Peter Chubb
 Anand == Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Anand On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:13:00AM +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
  See http://www.mirror.optusnet.com.au/lca/
 
 *Much* faster than getting it from the original site!
 

Anand http://twiki.linux.org.au/twiki/bin/view/Main/LCA2004Videos

Anand I bet ProgSoc (at AARNet speeds) beats Optus though ...

Depends if you're connected via Optus cable, doesn't it?

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[SLUG] Tape drive read error at end of archive

2004-09-08 Thread John Clarke
Hi all,

I recently came into possession of a DDS-2 12 tape autoloader, and I've
got the loader part working fine, thanks to mtx (http://mtx.badtux.net/).

I can write to the tapes, and read/verify what's written.  When tar
gets to the end of the archive though, it says:

tar: /dev/st0: Cannot read: Input/output error

several times then exits.  This only happens at the end of the archive,
which is not the end of the tape -- the tapes are 4GB and I'm only
storing around 600MB for now.  It's not one tape either, I've tried half
a dozen tapes with the same result.  I've also tried erasing the tapes
before writing, but that didn't change anything.

My tar command is 'tar -cpWf /dev/st0 .'

I'm guessing that it's something to do with the archive not being a
multiple of the tape block size.  I've tried using tar's -B switch but
it doesn't make any difference.


Does anyone have any suggestions for the cause and, more importantly,
how to fix it?


Thanks,

John
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Re: [SLUG] LCA 2004 DVD mirrored at Optusnet

2004-09-08 Thread Glen Turner
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 12:33, Peter Chubb wrote:

 Depends if you're connected via Optus cable, doesn't it?

Yep.

On the plus side peering between AARNet and others in Australia is
starting up the slope towards the top of the cycle. From a few years ago
when we asked and no-one of any size wanted to peer, now we're getting
complaints that we are not peering quickly enough.

Once we get the new 10Gbps backbone bedded in we'll tackle peering with
other national networks (we already extensively peer internationally).
Since gigabit ethernet is the current optical sweet spot, the
performance should be good. 

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Re: [SLUG] Tape drive read error at end of archive

2004-09-08 Thread Dave Kempe
John Clarke wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions for the cause and, more importantly,
how to fix it?
 

don't use a tape drive? seriously, they bite you in the arse when the 
proverbial hits the fan. use offsite backup or firewire.

sorry thats not very helpful.
dave
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Re: [SLUG] Tape drive read error at end of archive

2004-09-08 Thread Peter Miller
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:15, John Clarke wrote:
 tar: /dev/st0: Cannot read: Input/output error

This means that there is no Tape Mark on the tape, meaning that the tape
was probably written using a no-rewind device, and you failed to
explicitly write a tape mark (see mt(1) for more information).

The fix is to write the tape properly in the first place.  The
auto-rewind device usually writes two tape marks when you call close().

I have been using SCSI tape drives (ExaByte and DAT) for years on Linux
with few problems.


While I have been mostly happy with tapes under linux, recently I
purchased a DVD+R burner, and while I need 4 per backup set, they are
much faster to write, and *much* easier to restore from or just browse. 
I read in all my tapes, wrote out DVDs, and transferred the tape drives
into external enclosures and put them in a box in a cupboard with the
old backup tapes.  In 10 years I'll probably throw them all away (did
this last year with all my ancient 0.5 stuff.  OK, so I've been an IT
bower bird for the last 20 years).

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Re: [SLUG] Tape drive read error at end of archive

2004-09-08 Thread Dave Kempe
Peter Miller wrote:
  While I have been mostly happy with tapes under linux, recently I
purchased a DVD+R burner, and while I need 4 per backup set, they are
much faster to write, and *much* easier to restore from or just browse. 
I read in all my tapes, wrote out DVDs, and transferred the tape drives
i bought a 8.5gb dual layer dvd writer for $165 last week. 8.5gb media 
is more expensive than the single layer, but cheaper and more useable 
than tape :)

dave
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Re: [SLUG] Tape drive read error at end of archive

2004-09-08 Thread Del

i bought a 8.5gb dual layer dvd writer for $165 last week. 8.5gb media 
is more expensive than the single layer, but cheaper and more useable 
than tape :)
I have to say I'm waiting for the 8.5GB dual layer media to be
=~ 2x the price of single layer media.  ATM it's about 10x the
price.
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