[SLUG] Unwired broadband service
Thanks to all for your help. I have a couple of months to go on my current Optusnet broadband contract. Then I'll take it a step further with Unwired and report in on events in case others are wondering too. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Unwired broadband service.
Hi John Yeah, it's easy. Configure it through XP (They have a Windows based config) and then once it is configured, shut down the box and start Linux. It will get an IP through DHCP and all will be well The initial setup uses the Modems serial number to register with Unwireds servers.. Give me a yell if you need more info Kev -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gibbons Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Unwired broadband service. Greetings. Has anyone had any experience hooking up to the new 'Unwired' broadband service? I asked them but got an email saying they do not support Linux and I should contact my local network technician, which I have not got. I have Windows XP and Fedora 1 dual booted. Thanks for any advice. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] USB Flight yoke recommendation ?
I'm looking at getting a basic USB flight yoke to use with FlightGear flight simulator. Any recommendations - I have 2.6.7 kernel - presumably I'd need to recompile it to include the appropriate driver, or are they generic ? thanks Rod -- --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwired broadband service.
Kevin Fitzgerald wrote: Yeah, it's easy. Configure it through XP (They have a Windows based config) and then once it is configured, shut down the box and start Linux. It will get an IP through DHCP and all will be well The initial setup uses the Modems serial number to register with Unwireds servers.. Give me a yell if you need more info What I would love to know is whether it is possible to plug in the unwired thingy instead of the ADSL thingy into my IPCop box and then share it to my LAN. My interest in unwired is not so much for mobility - for me the appeal lies in giving the landline (and Telstra) the flick! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
I've turned off shorewall on the mandrake box (I'm behind a smoothwall box for net access), and access has returned. I'm not sure how it even started to get in the way. Any ideas? Apologies for the rapid posts - I've got parent's brain at the moment (both kids waking in the middle of the night %) and parent's time (bits here and there). I'll try to be more complete and clearer in my posts :) I'll post the outcome of entering the lines of code in the xfree86-4 file. -Original Message- From: James Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:) On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 15:28 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote: I can't turn off the smoothwall, as that provides access - when it's off, there's no access to the net. I didn't realise it was a separate machine. What I meant was to disable the firewalling functionality to see if that restores access. I could never get the USB modem to work in Mandrake :( Route -n gives [...] That looks sane. I assume 192.168.0.1 is your smoothwall machine? can you ping it? run ping 192.168.0.1 from a terminal. James. -- James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
This one time, at band camp, Elliott-Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After running modprobe aiptek (as root) and then lsmod (as root), and nothing else, I have lost net connection and connection to my server (home network). Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up. Kevin - Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Mail bounce
Hi, I've been replying to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address - mail is going through, but I'm also getting this: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DBMAIL: delivery failure This is the DBMAIL-SMTP program. I'm sorry to inform you that your message, addressed to hne, could not be delivered due to the following error. *** Mailbox of user hne is FULL *** If you think this message is incorrect please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Header of your message follows... SNIP I'm not sure what this is about. I don't know the person involved. Anyone else experiencing this? Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FC2 BREAKS sound card
O Plameras wrote: Can you tell us the ff: 1. Did you upgrade from FC 1? 2. Are you running text mode or X mode when compiling ? 3. How much memory do you have ? 4. What hardware platform (x86?, others) ? Xmode running x86 hardware 256mb -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FC2 BREAKS sound card
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Re: [SLUG] FC2 BREAKS sound card
Linley Caetan wrote: Xmode running x86 hardware 256mb These looks OK. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FC2 BREAKS sound card
Linley Caetan wrote: and yes upgrade from fc1 Important check: Do a, depmod -V If version is less than ff lines: depmod Version 2.4.26 module-init-tools 3.0-pre10 Upgrade your module-init-tools. Additional check to do: 1. check your file /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. There should be a line that says, - upgraded to 2.6.x The equivalent file in fc1 is different. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mail bounce
Elliott-Brennan wrote:
*** Mailbox of user hne is FULL ***
If you think this message is incorrect please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2c. that address is subscribed to the slug list and their mailer is
sending the bounce directly to you.
and I'll tell you if this post gets the same message.
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Re: [SLUG] Mail bounce
On 10/06/04 19:12, Elliott-Brennan wrote: Hi, I've been replying to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address - mail is going through, but I'm also getting this: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DBMAIL: delivery failure Looks like their MTA is incorrectly sending the bounce message to you directly instead of back to the mailing list server. It seems most of the list administrators don't actually post to the list very often, so they tend to miss problems like this. Well, that's why I didn't know about it. ;-) I've set that account to nomail. For future reference, please direct queries like this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], to prevent hassling our 750 or so subscribers with meta-list stuff that's probably meaningless to them. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FC2 BREAKS sound card
O Plameras wrote: depmod -V If version is less than ff lines: depmod Version 2.4.26 module-init-tools 3.0-pre10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.5-1.358]# depmod -V depmod version 2.4.26 module-init-tools 3.0-pre10 looks OK Upgrade your module-init-tools. Additional check to do: 1. check your file /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. There should be a line that says, - upgraded to 2.6.x Missing! The equivalent file in fc1 is different. This means? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Data Projector
Hi all, I've managed to acquire a data projector, and I wanted to offer it for SLUG events or other open source events that people are running. If anyone wants to borrow it for such events please email me :) Cheers, Pia -- Pia Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Hi all, I was thinking that it would be a good idea to have an open discussion about this tender. I know a few people have already been taling about it. All that has come out thus far is essentially a call to participate, referencing what skillsets the government are looking for, and trying to put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online: www.osia.net.au www.linux.org.au/ausvendors.php www.auug.org.au/directory/ but it would be useful to see exactly who can do what, to what capacity and so forth. As far as I'm concerned this is a really big pie, and many slices to go around :) We should try to find out where any gaps are as a community of skills and expertise, so we can ensure as a solution open source is quite covered by experts according to the governments need. I think Bruce Badger was able to secure a room at the ACS building for Thursday 2pm next week. Anyone interested is welcome to come along. I'm sure he'll post a follow up with the address :) This is a great opportunity for open source, and for the Australia open source community. Rock on Australia! Cheers all, Pia -- Pia Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Stallman at UTS
Hi all, three posts today! :) RMS is speaking at UTS next Friday at 2pm. https://www.acs.org.au/acs_events/index.cfm?attributes.fuseaction=eventdetailsevent_id=935branch=NSW Anyone interested needs to register, but anyone that hasn't seen RMS speak I highly recommend to attend. Cheers, Pia -- Pia Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FC2 BREAKS sound card
Linley Caetan wrote: Additional check to do: 1. check your file /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. There should be a line that says, - upgraded to 2.6.x Missing! Download it from : http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/souptonuts/rc.sysinit.txt?download Review the ff: http://www.kerneltrap.org/node/view/2465 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
Kevin, Which distro are you using and which tablet - I've searched a few sites of late and may have come across something useful (then again... :) -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 6:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:) This one time, at band camp, Elliott-Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After running modprobe aiptek (as root) and then lsmod (as root), and nothing else, I have lost net connection and connection to my server (home network). Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up. Kevin - Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian installed package test
Debian-dudes, Is there a cleaner way of testing whether a package is installed on debian than something like: dpkg -l $PKG | grep -q ^ii Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stallman at UTS
On Thu Oct 07, 2004 at 06:09:26 +1000, Pia Smith wrote: Hi all, three posts today! :) RMS is speaking at UTS next Friday at 2pm. https://www.acs.org.au/acs_events/index.cfm?attributes.fuseaction=eventdetailsevent_id=935branch=NSW Anyone interested needs to register, but anyone that hasn't seen RMS speak I highly recommend to attend. Did anyone see him speak yesterday at USYD? How was it? He is also speaking at UNSW next week. (Don't have details on hand.) Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stallman at UTS
Did anyone see him speak yesterday at USYD? How was it? well apart from his late arrival (he doesn't like mobiles or non-public transport :-) he gave quite a good talk on copyrights, from the history of it until where it is going wrong, I think RMS is always worth going to, he is a pretty good speaker, has some good if very difficult to implement ideas to paraphrase something he said, he comes up with the ideas its up to the rest of us to get the governements to implement them, Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 06:03 +1000, Pia Smith wrote: put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online: Sounds like OpenSkills - http://openskills.com/ - may as well use an existing infrastructure. -- A man was reading The Canterbury Tales one Saturday morning, when his wife asked What have you got there? Replied he, Just my cup and Chaucer. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stallman at UTS
Is he likely to speak somewhere at a time where people that actually work are able to get to? ie outside of 9-5? otherwise I'm sad that I'll have to miss out... :( Cheers, Taryn * Pia Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: Hi all, three posts today! :) RMS is speaking at UTS next Friday at 2pm. https://www.acs.org.au/acs_events/index.cfm?attributes.fuseaction=eventdetailsevent_id=935branch=NSW Anyone interested needs to register, but anyone that hasn't seen RMS speak I highly recommend to attend. Cheers, Pia -- Pia Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but... Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. Cheers, Taryn * Craige McWhirter [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 06:03 +1000, Pia Smith wrote: put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online: Sounds like OpenSkills - http://openskills.com/ - may as well use an existing infrastructure. -- A man was reading The Canterbury Tales one Saturday morning, when his wife asked What have you got there? Replied he, Just my cup and Chaucer. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 10:11 +1000, Taryn East wrote: admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but... Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. Do you mind me asking - what aspect of paying AUD 20 / year you find a turnoff? (i.e. what you get for the AUD 20/ the very concept of a non-profit organisation/ ...) Cheers, Rob Discloser: I'm on the openskills board. -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
quote who=Taryn East Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. SLUG is more expensive to join than OpenSkills. ;-) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2005: Canberra, Australia http://lca2005.linux.org.au/ Stupidity is used to run 98% of the world's corporations, which tops UNIX server usage by quite a bit. - George Lebl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
* Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: quote who=Taryn East Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. SLUG is more expensive to join than OpenSkills. ;-) yeah, but you don't have to pay for SLUG to take advantage of most of what SLUG has to offer... also it's very easy to see what advantages you gain by forking out money for SLUG... how do I know that I'll actually gain anything from registering with openSkills? Cheers, Taryn [who is interested in openskills, but not enough to put her money where her mouth is and register] -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 19, Issue 15
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Bruce Badger was able to secure a room at the ACS building for Thursday 2pm next week. Anyone interested is welcome to come along. I'm sure he'll post a follow up with the address :) Pia, I assume you mean the ACS NSW Offices. Will you be organising registrations for this. It is not the largest room I know. Ashley -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stallman at UTS
On Thu Oct 07, 2004 at 09:26:17 +1000, Benno wrote: On Thu Oct 07, 2004 at 06:09:26 +1000, Pia Smith wrote: Hi all, three posts today! :) RMS is speaking at UTS next Friday at 2pm. https://www.acs.org.au/acs_events/index.cfm?attributes.fuseaction=eventdetailsevent_id=935branch=NSW Anyone interested needs to register, but anyone that hasn't seen RMS speak I highly recommend to attend. Did anyone see him speak yesterday at USYD? How was it? He is also speaking at UNSW next week. (Don't have details on hand.) And now I do: http://www.bakercyberlawcentre.org/2004/talks/LTT_04_stallman.htm It seems you are meant to RSVP -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Stallman at UTS
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 06:09 am, Pia Smith wrote: Hi all, three posts today! :) RMS is speaking at UTS next Friday at 2pm. https://www.acs.org.au/acs_events/index.cfm?attributes.fuseaction=eventdeta ilsevent_id=935branch=NSW Anyone interested needs to register, but anyone that hasn't seen RMS speak I highly recommend to attend. I'll second that. I've been to two of his presentations at MIT when I was there in 2001 (post Sept-11, which kinda set the mood for his lectures). Can highly recommend it. Very insightful guy :) Cheers, James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Taryn East wrote:
admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but...
Openskills you have to pay for...
Which isn't a problem if an old slugger can post the value of work they
have received from being listed in it.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:25 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Taryn East wrote: admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but... Openskills you have to pay for... Which isn't a problem if an old slugger can post the value of work they have received from being listed in it. Well I just passed on to the members two small opportunities, which I'd estimate @ several hundred dollars each. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Taryn wrote: Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for. An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best interests of members. Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for members. If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it. All the best, Bruce -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Would someone mind going back a pace or two and telling the country cousins just what this tender meeting is supposed to be about. On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 06:03, Pia Smith wrote: Hi all, I was thinking that it would be a good idea to have an open discussion about this tender. I know a few people have already been taling about it. All that has come out thus far is essentially a call to participate, referencing what skillsets the government are looking for, and trying to put together a panel of who would be appropriate. It might be a good time to get together, look at all the requirements and put together a matrix of skills in NSW. We already have a few directories online: www.osia.net.au www.linux.org.au/ausvendors.php www.auug.org.au/directory/ but it would be useful to see exactly who can do what, to what capacity and so forth. As far as I'm concerned this is a really big pie, and many slices to go around :) We should try to find out where any gaps are as a community of skills and expertise, so we can ensure as a solution open source is quite covered by experts according to the governments need. I think Bruce Badger was able to secure a room at the ACS building for Thursday 2pm next week. Anyone interested is welcome to come along. I'm sure he'll post a follow up with the address :) This is a great opportunity for open source, and for the Australia open source community. Rock on Australia! Cheers all, Pia -- Pia Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Australia -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates; Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; when you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Anti-virus program detects GNU Public Licence
This is amusing. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18919 POPULAR OPEN SOURCE virus scanner Clamav has been hastily updated this morning to remove a 'false positive': the scanner was detecting the GNU Public Licence as a virus. Thousands of Open Source programs, including Clamav itself, include a copy of this licence, and since it is a plain text file it is incapable of containing a virus. The incident may well bring a smirk to the lips of those who object to the GPL on ideological grounds. The cry is often heard that the GPL is 'viral', since you can't redistribute GPL code with proprietary code without the result being 'infected' with the GPL. At least not if the result is a 'derivative work' of the GPL code. What exactly constitutes a derivative work is something we'll leave to the lawyer-geeks of places like groklaw.net. r.w. -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services bureaucracy, n: A method for transforming energy into solid waste. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Howard Lowndes wrote: Would someone mind going back a pace or two and telling the country cousins just what this tender meeting is supposed to be about. Right, more info will assist clarify. Some relevant links: ttp://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39161207%2C00.htm http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C4057%2C10757450%255E15319%2C00.html http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39157794%2C00.htm http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0%2C7204%2C10916500%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E%2C00.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31:53AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote: Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up. What did you do to try and use it? I discovered a wacom ultrapad serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out. Wacom say they supply the developers at linuxwacom.sourceforge.net hardware and info. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Is it only me that finds URL's are an unsatisfying answer to a question? On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, O Plameras wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: Would someone mind going back a pace or two and telling the country cousins just what this tender meeting is supposed to be about. Right, more info will assist clarify. Some relevant links: ttp://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39161207%2C00.htm http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C4057%2C10757450%255E15319%2C00.html http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0%2C261733%2C39157794%2C00.htm http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0%2C7204%2C10916500%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E%2C00.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did you do to try and use it? I discovered a wacom ultrapad serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out. Yeah it will need a driver. Just make sure that when you back it out of the garage the driver should look left, then right, left again, exit and don't go over the speed limit for the digital highway :-) -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31:53AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote: Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up. What did you do to try and use it? I discovered a wacom ultrapad serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out. Wacom say they supply the developers at linuxwacom.sourceforge.net hardware and info. ( USB ) Wacom Intuos/Graphire tablet support is defaulted into Linux 2.6.x. I have Linux 2.6.9-rc3 and it is compiled into kernel as module. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Hi Taryn In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say it's been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me. These opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member. Other members have similar stories. Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more skills searching and more work for members. Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing _only excellent services for the members. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote: Taryn wrote: Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for. An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best interests of members. Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for members. If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it. All the best, Bruce -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] proxy
I'm thinking of setting up a linux proxy, using debian, squid and dansguardian. I'd like to have it authenticate with windows users if possible so I can have separate rules for students, staff etc. I'm running an active directory based network. Has anyone done something like this? If so, any advice before I start? Cheers Robert Tillsley Network Administrator St Vincent's College www.stvincents.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
David wrote:
Is it only me that finds URL's are an unsatisfying answer to a question?
In this case, they were satisfying for me, aka not of interest yet.
Phrases like;
guarantee any legal liability
only ten
provide all services
retraining resellers
etc.
It is a big fish market for overseas owned companies.
And the scraps are controlled by the usual blood suckers.
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Re: [SLUG] proxy
its pretty straight forward, just follow the doco you can either have full on transparent authentification against windows or you can prompt through the browser for username and password (coming from windows) which ever suits your needs. Dean Robert Tillsley wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a linux proxy, using debian, squid and dansguardian. I'd like to have it authenticate with windows users if possible so I can have separate rules for students, staff etc. I'm running an active directory based network. Has anyone done something like this? If so, any advice before I start? Cheers Robert Tillsley Network Administrator St Vincent's College www.stvincents.nsw.edu.au -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean at bong.com.au or djzort at bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] proxy
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 03:14 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote: its pretty straight forward, just follow the doco you can either have full on transparent authentification against windows or you can prompt through the browser for username and password (coming from windows) which ever suits your needs. Dean For the OP, transparent authentication and transparent proxy are two very different and conflicting terms; they are mutually exclusive. transparent authentication: read NTLM Authentication. This works via the magic of Samba and winbind and is VERY well documented in the Squid FAQ's. If you go through it all step-by-step, it Just Works (tm). It's even easier now with Samba 3, compared to the earlier Samba versions (2.2 et al). transparent proxy: means all your outgoing port 80/443 requests are transparently redirected to the proxy irrespective of the users' proxy configuration. This is usually done at the perimeter router/firewall using iptables and destination NAT (or similar). Whilst transparent proxying sounds attractive you CANNOT use this AND authentication at the same time. Think about it; if you were connecting to www.foo.com and got prompted for authentication credentials from something other than www.foo.com when you weren't expecting it, would be considered a man-in-the-middle type attack. However, if your browser is expecting proxy authentication challenge (by being configured to use a proxy) then it's all good. NTLM authentication only works on Windows and only with IE. All other OS/Browser combinations use basic authentication - which means the users will be prompted for a user-id+password. This is a protocol level restriction and comes up regularly on the squid users list. BTW, if you're using basic authentication in an Active Directory environment, the users will need to use DOMAIN\userid and their AD password. IE will usually present a triple dialogue box for userid, domain and password. You can configure squid to use BOTH NTLM and basic authentication at the same time; that way IE users will be authenticated transparently, with all other users (with REAL browsers) entering DOMAIN\userid+password. E-mail me off list if you want some help with the fine tuning :) I am the the proxy admin for our company - we use FreeBSD+Squid+Samba to authenticate back to the Active Directorybut the squid+samba configs are almost identical regardless of OS :) Cheers, James -- Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the victims he intends to eat until he eats them. -- Samuel Butler pgpfPQHVJem84.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] proxy
Thanks for the advice guys. What I am looking for is transparent authentication. Someone else has just told me that dansguardian won't work with ntlm authentication and AD groups, so I might have to reconsider this. Cheers Robert Tillsley Network Administrator St Vincent's College www.stvincents.nsw.edu.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] proxy On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 03:14 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote: its pretty straight forward, just follow the doco you can either have full on transparent authentification against windows or you can prompt through the browser for username and password (coming from windows) which ever suits your needs. Dean For the OP, transparent authentication and transparent proxy are two very different and conflicting terms; they are mutually exclusive. transparent authentication: read NTLM Authentication. This works via the magic of Samba and winbind and is VERY well documented in the Squid FAQ's. If you go through it all step-by-step, it Just Works (tm). It's even easier now with Samba 3, compared to the earlier Samba versions (2.2 et al). transparent proxy: means all your outgoing port 80/443 requests are transparently redirected to the proxy irrespective of the users' proxy configuration. This is usually done at the perimeter router/firewall using iptables and destination NAT (or similar). Whilst transparent proxying sounds attractive you CANNOT use this AND authentication at the same time. Think about it; if you were connecting to www.foo.com and got prompted for authentication credentials from something other than www.foo.com when you weren't expecting it, would be considered a man-in-the-middle type attack. However, if your browser is expecting proxy authentication challenge (by being configured to use a proxy) then it's all good. NTLM authentication only works on Windows and only with IE. All other OS/Browser combinations use basic authentication - which means the users will be prompted for a user-id+password. This is a protocol level restriction and comes up regularly on the squid users list. BTW, if you're using basic authentication in an Active Directory environment, the users will need to use DOMAIN\userid and their AD password. IE will usually present a triple dialogue box for userid, domain and password. You can configure squid to use BOTH NTLM and basic authentication at the same time; that way IE users will be authenticated transparently, with all other users (with REAL browsers) entering DOMAIN\userid+password. E-mail me off list if you want some help with the fine tuning :) I am the the proxy admin for our company - we use FreeBSD+Squid+Samba to authenticate back to the Active Directorybut the squid+samba configs are almost identical regardless of OS :) Cheers, James -- Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the victims he intends to eat until he eats them. -- Samuel Butler -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] proxy
James Gray wrote: Whilst transparent proxying sounds attractive you CANNOT use this AND authentication at the same time. Think about it; if you were connecting to www.foo.com and got prompted for authentication credentials from something other than www.foo.com when you weren't expecting it, would be considered a man-in-the-middle type attack. However, if your browser is expecting proxy authentication challenge (by being configured to use a proxy) then it's all good. NTLM authentication only works on Windows and only with IE. All other OS/Browser combinations use basic authentication - which means the users will be prompted for a user-id+password. This is a protocol level restriction and comes up regularly on the squid users list. Actually, modern Mozilla based browsers have both support for NTLM authentication as well as assigning sites (such as proxies) that the browser will automagically perform IE-esqe pass-through authentication. I've been using Firefox 1.0PR and it does all of this. I'm assuming this functionality is available in the Suite Product as well... although don't quote me. On Windows I can get it to pass through my default login credentials and uender Linux it prompts me for my credentials. Pretty spiffy. Jordan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
