[SLUG] Linux Conferences

2005-03-20 Thread Sonia Hamilton
I'm the editor for the dmoz.org category Linux Conferences' [1] - I'd
be interested if anyone knows of any other conferences that I could add
to the category. 

Yes, I know about LinuxConf in Canberra in a few weeks :-)

Email me the links, or you can submit them directly at [1].

[1] http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Conferences/

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] Fwd: [LINK] unix time = 11111111111 about mid-day today.

2005-03-20 Thread mlh
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:56:33 +1100
Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 while [ 0 ]; do clear; date; date +%s; sleep 1; done

Here's another variation:


 while true; do printf %s\r $(date +%s); usleep 10; done


The \r keeps the output on the same line.

Adjust the usleep arg up or down according to how much cpu
you want to burn.


Matt

ps.  sorta surprised that while [0] ... works but there you go
while [ 1 ] works the same.

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Re: [SLUG] Fwd: [LINK] unix time = 11111111111 about mid-day today.

2005-03-20 Thread Rick Welykochy
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ps.  sorta surprised that while [0] ... works but there you go
while [ 1 ] works the same.

very counterintuitive, i know.
an actual 'false' inside the brackets is a null or empty string,
e.g.  while [  ]  does nothing
-rick
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Re: [SLUG] RIP LinMagAU

2005-03-20 Thread Dean Hamstead
be sure to post a link some place
Dean
Simon Males wrote:
We all know that LinMagAU stop publishing some time ago, and now the 
domain has been hijacked.

Does anyone have the editions in one big tar ? I would really like to 
seem the articles appear online in one shape or form again, rather then 
mold away digitally.

Ultimate goal would be to push it to the debain archives in the same way 
the Linux Gazette is.

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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-20 Thread David Fisher
I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on 
Debian sarge.  You may have a problem here, because the last time I looked 
(IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders.

Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could 
prove me wrong.

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We've been using Dovecot (on FC2) for a while as our IMAP server. But 
now we need to evolve to sharing some folders.

We need to share some folders with one set of users, others with 
another set of users (overlapping wit the first set), and keep some 
folders as private.

How do we do this?

Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-20 Thread Tony Green
On 21/03/2005, at 11:10 AM, David Fisher wrote:
I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on
Debian sarge.  You may have a problem here, because the last time I 
looked
(IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders.

Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could
prove me wrong.
I just did a quick test on my courier imap setup.  You can symlink imap 
directories, though I can't give assurances of how well it works.

Perhaps it may be worth looking at if you really need it and can't find 
any other way.

TG
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[SLUG] Handling Berkeley databases

2005-03-20 Thread Howard Lowndes
What sort of utilities are there for handling Berkeley databases other
than the db_* range.

db_dump -p gives me printable output but I still get the \0d\0a coming
out as such rather than as a new line, and I can't seem to get a pipe
into sed to fix it.

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[SLUG] Nomination acceptance

2005-03-20 Thread Grant Parnell
It occurred to me that I should actually formally accept the nomination 
for the SLUG Secretary in the upcomming election. I do accept.

FWIW I don't think I did as good a job as Mary did (2003-2004) but at 
least I've eventually gotten things sorted out. There's lots of things I 
wanted to get done but didn't manage to do so. Therefor I'll publicly 
state my aims for SLUG in the coming year.

* I want to get more youth involved because a) they have more time to do 
stuff and b) I like teaching stuff.
* I'd like to hold monthly hands on workshops somewhere - Anyone got a 
club house with some storage available?
* I'd like to see more audience participation at SLUG
- debates?
- quiz?
- demos
- training
* I'd like to hold the committee meetings via IRC.

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[SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread Ashley Maher
G'day,
I have a nice shiney new external usb drive for my laptop.
I intended to format the drive.
Insertingthe external drive into the Gateway Solo laptop running Ubuntu 
gives the following ouput in /var/log/messages:

Mar 21 14:44:20 solo scsi.agent[3962]: disk at 
/devices/pci:00/:00:07.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host0/0:0:0:0
Mar 21 14:44:20 solo kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
Mar 21 14:44:20 solo kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
Mar 21 14:46:00 solo kernel: usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using 
address 4
Mar 21 14:46:05 solo kernel: usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
Mar 21 14:46:10 solo kernel: usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after 
error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : status=0, message=00, host=5, driver=04
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : sense not available.
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, 
channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 4
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 5
Mar 21 14:46:16 solo kernel: usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
Mar 21 14:46:21 solo kernel: usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
Mar 21 14:46:22 solo kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 6
Mar 21 14:46:27 solo kernel: usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
Mar 21 14:46:32 solo kernel: usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
Mar 21 14:58:55 solo -- MARK --

and dmesg | grep usb produces:
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 3
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 3, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 4
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using address 4
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 4, error -110
usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 4
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 5
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 5, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 6
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 6, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 7
and dmesg | grep scsi
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 
id 0 lun 0
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices

I'm finding it kinda difficult to format a drive I cann't see.
Ideas appreciated.
Regards,
Ashley
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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread David Kempe
Ashley Maher wrote:
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after 
error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : status=0, message=00, host=5, driver=04
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : sense not available.
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
thats not meant to happen. seems like a dead disk. but could be cable, 
enclosure or something else.
once it gets that right you need to partition it before you format it.
cfdisk is probably most useful.
does cfdisk /dev/sda help at all?

thanks
dave
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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread Ashley Maher
David Kempe wrote:
Ashley Maher wrote:
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after 
error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : status=0, message=00, host=5, 
driver=04
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : sense not available.
Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda: Write Protect is off

thats not meant to happen. seems like a dead disk. but could be cable, 
enclosure or something else.
once it gets that right you need to partition it before you format it.
cfdisk is probably most useful.
does cfdisk /dev/sda help at all?

thanks
dave

Thanks David,
Fatal error: Cannot open disk drive
Press any key to exit cfdisk
Regards
Ashley
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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread Michael Fox
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:43 +1100, Ashley Maher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Kempe wrote:
  Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after
  error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
  Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
  Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : status=0, message=00, host=5,
  driver=04
  Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : sense not available.
  Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda: Write Protect is off

 Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after
error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0

As pointed out, looks like dead disk. Try on another machine. I
suspect it too will complain. Was this a case + drive you fitted, or a
complete unit like those maxtor external drives.
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Re: [SLUG] Nomination acceptance

2005-03-20 Thread QuantumG
Grant Parnell wrote:
* I want to get more youth involved because a) they have more time to do 
stuff and b) I like teaching stuff.
 

Can I just mention another good reason to encourage kids who are 
interested in programming to start hacking on open source projects:

   kids have a better understanding of fun
Maybe I'm just cynical but it always seems that so many hackers these 
days see working on open source as work.  Maybe if we had more kids 
hacking on open source projects they could remind us of all the joy we 
get out of it.

Trent
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Re: [SLUG] Repartitioning Dell Dimension 8300

2005-03-20 Thread Simon Wong
On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 15:42 +1100, Edwin Humphries wrote:
 I've just inherited a Dell Dimension 8300. It has a single 120Gb SATA
 drive, and I'd like to repartition with a view to dual-booting. It's 
 got
 an OEM partition on the first 31 Mb of the drive.
 
 When I try to boot with the System Rescue CD (to use NTFSresize), I 
 get an error message hda: host proected area = 1 and the boot 
 hangs. I'm assuming that this refers to the OEM partition - is this 
 right? How do I get the bootloader to ignore this partition?

The host protected area is generally pretty large as it should contain
all required to reinstall the original Windows OS (well, I haven't seen
a Linux one).

On my IBM ThinkPad it is actually at the end of the drive and not a
partition at all just an area of the disk that contains data that the
BIOS can read.

I suspect some other problem.  Does something else like Knoppix or the
Ubuntu Live CD boot OK?


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[SLUG] Re: external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:46:43PM +1100, Ashley Maher wrote:
 David Kempe wrote:
 Ashley Maher wrote:
 Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after 
 error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
 Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
 Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : status=0, message=00, host=5, 
 driver=04
 Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda : sense not available.
 Mar 21 14:46:11 solo kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
 
 thats not meant to happen. seems like a dead disk. but could be cable, 
 enclosure or something else.
 once it gets that right you need to partition it before you format it.
 cfdisk is probably most useful.
 does cfdisk /dev/sda help at all?
 
 Fatal error: Cannot open disk drive
 
 Press any key to exit cfdisk

That certainly smells like a DOA drive to me.  Try plugging it into one of
your desktop systems to see if it's a problem with the USB support on that
particular machine.  Or bring it over here -- I've got an IDE-miniIDE
converter we can play with to see if we can isolate the problem to the drive
or the enclosure or whatever.

- Matt


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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread Ashley Maher
Michael Fox wrote:
As pointed out, looks like dead disk. Try on another machine. 

Thanks.
Tried Slackware 10 running 2.4 kernel, on a desktop.
Found the device
fdisk particioned it fine
formatted ext3 fine.
Plug back into Ubuntu on the laptop and:
tail /var/log/messages:
Mar 21 15:15:16 solo kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 7
Mar 21 15:15:17 solo kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Mar 21 15:15:17 solo kernel:   Vendor: Genesys   Model: USB to IDE Disk   Rev: 0033
Mar 21 15:15:17 solo kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Mar 21 15:15:27 solo hal.hotplug[4523]: timout(1 ms) waiting for /devices/pci:00/:00:07.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0 
Mar 21 15:15:27 solo hal.hotplug[4529]: timout(1 ms) waiting for /devices/pci:00/:00:07.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host1/1:0:0:0 
Mar 21 15:15:28 solo usb.agent[4546]:  usb-storage: already loaded
Mar 21 15:15:37 solo scsi.agent[4550]: Attribute /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:07.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host1/1:0:0:0/type does not exist
Mar 21 15:20:30 solo kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #0 link partner capability of 01e1.
Mar 21 15:38:55 solo -- MARK --
Mar 21 15:58:55 solo -- MARK --
Mar 21 16:18:55 solo -- MARK --
Mar 21 16:38:55 solo -- MARK --

dmesg | grep usb
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 3
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 3, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 4
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using address 4
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 4, error -110
usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 4
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 5
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 5, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 6
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0out
usb 1-2: device not accepting address 6, error -110
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 7
dmesg | grep scsi
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 channel 0 id 0 
lun 0
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to offline device
Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Hmm this is getting interesting!
The laptop is realley what I want this for. Working on the desktop is 
loely (it proves it works) but not what i was looking for.

Ideas appreciated.
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Ashley
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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread David Kempe
Ashley Maher wrote:
The laptop is realley what I want this for. Working on the desktop is 
loely (it proves it works) but not what i was looking for.
the 2.6 kernel has some removable drive stuff broken if you ask me.
have you tried mucking around with different drivers for your usb 
chipset? usb-storage is all you get with usb-removable drives. I reckon 
firewire support which works pretty much the same is badly broken in 2.6 
so I stick to 2.4. You won't be able to get 2.4 to work nicely with 
Ubuntu (tho I am sure someone here might be able to help). maybe try 
debian testing on that laptop - you get debian anyway, just a bit more 
headache making it work.

dave
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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread Michael Fox
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:50:53 +1100, Ashley Maher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm this is getting interesting!
 
 The laptop is realley what I want this for. Working on the desktop is
 loely (it proves it works) but not what i was looking for.
 

I don't believe you've stated what type of usb external case.. is this
a laptop ide usb case? ie. bus powered unit?

If so its possible the laptop usb ports can't power it. You might need
to also plug in the other cable that draws current from ps2 port.

It might be the lack of power to the drive causing it not to spin up,
and thus been seen as offline.

That would be my guess at this stage.
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Re: [SLUG] external usb formatting

2005-03-20 Thread Peter Chubb
 Michael == Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Michael On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:50:53 +1100, Ashley Maher
Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm this is getting interesting!
 
 The laptop is realley what I want this for. Working on the desktop
 is loely (it proves it works) but not what i was looking for.
 

What kernel are you running?  There were some USB bugs preventing
disk-like devices from working reliably that were fixed in late
2.6.11.  Try 2.6.12-rc2 and see if you still have a problem.
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