[SLUG] HP Photosmart 2575 setup
Debian Sid. trying #/etc/init.d/hpoj setup gets to this: Probing /dev/usb/lp0... *** Found Photosmart 2570 series but failed to communicate with it! *** Elapsed time for this attempt was 0 second(s). *** Check syslog file for ptal-mlcd error messages. *** See hpoj documentation for troubleshooting information. The key line in syslog appears to my ignorant eye as 'couldn't claim interface 2' I have hpijs hplip installed as well as hpoj http://www.linuxprinting.org//show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_2570 So its a 2575 rather than a 2570, which I thought would be unimportant. Anyone got a cluebat handy? Cheers, Hal syslog looks like this: Dec 6 00:09:11 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5832, e=2, t=1133788151 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:11 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5839, e=111, t=1133788151 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:11 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:3762, dev=mlc:usb:probe@/dev/usb/lp0, pid=5839, e=1, t=1133788151 Couldn't claim interface=2! Dec 6 00:09:11 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2559, dev=mlc:usb:probe@/dev/usb/lp0, pid=5839, e=25, t=1133788151 Couldn't set up MLC interface! Dec 6 00:09:11 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5848, e=111, t=1133788151 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:11 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2525, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5848, e=1, t=1133788151 Couldn't find device! Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5857, e=111, t=1133788152 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2525, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5857, e=1, t=1133788152 Couldn't find device! Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5866, e=111, t=1133788152 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2525, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5866, e=1, t=1133788152 Couldn't find device! Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5875, e=111, t=1133788152 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2525, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5875, e=1, t=1133788152 Couldn't find device! Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5884, e=111, t=1133788152 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2525, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5884, e=1, t=1133788152 Couldn't find device! Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5893, e=111, t=1133788152 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2525, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5893, e=1, t=1133788152 Couldn't find device! Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: SYSLOG at ExMgr.cpp:652, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5902, e=111, t=1133788152 ptal-mlcd successfully initialized. Dec 6 00:09:12 thebored ptal-mlcd: ERROR at ExMgr.cpp:2525, dev=mlc:usb:probe, pid=5902, e=1, t=1133788152 Couldn't find device! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
Hi Richard, This was one of those buzz-wordy type things a few years ago, and some of the big consumer network device companies put out product. I didn't hear about any of them reaching 100Mbit/s, though - and I'd be really surprised if they did, given the number of pairs available in your standard phone line (CAT3, as others have mentioned). You will need special hardware, as listed on the homepna.org site you linked, and I'm not sure what linux support is like. The equipment would also need to be AUSTel certified to be legal in australia (Perhaps not for a PABX system? Dunno if it would even work in this environment) Cheers, Matt P.S. If it's not AUSTel certified, but you want to take the risk, you'd want to know the difference between the US phone network (voltage, etc), and the australian one. Richard Hayes wrote: Dear List, I have seen claims that normal twisted pair telephone can work up to 100MBits/Sec. Has anyone had any experience with it in the real world? http://www.homepna.org/ -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 08:41 +1100, Matt Moor wrote: Hi Richard, This was one of those buzz-wordy type things a few years ago, and some of the big consumer network device companies put out product. I didn't hear about any of them reaching 100Mbit/s, though - and I'd be really surprised if they did, given the number of pairs available in your standard phone line (CAT3, as others have mentioned). You will need special hardware, as listed on the homepna.org site you linked, and I'm not sure what linux support is like. The equipment would also need to be AUSTel certified to be legal in australia (Perhaps not for a PABX system? Dunno if it would even work in this environment) Cheers, Matt P.S. If it's not AUSTel certified, but you want to take the risk, you'd want to know the difference between the US phone network (voltage, etc), and the australian one. AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network - it does not apply. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] linux distribution which one?
Both server and workstation Basically I would like something like debian with 14 cds that shipped with a full load of software (not old though) so I could build all the server or workstation without going to the internet. -Original Message- From: Russell Davie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:28 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Cc: Kasim, Yosep Subject: Re: [SLUG] linux distribution which one On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:38:56 +1100 Kasim, Yosep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I am trying to use linux for the first time. I would like to have a distro like debian with 14 Cds so I don't need to go to the internet to get the software. Debian would be suitable but has very old software tend not to be updated or too long. Can anybody assist me with any of distros that complete enough but not too old What do you want to do? Ubuntu uses 1 disk to install either workstation or server. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ You can have it mailed at no cost: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ HTH Russell DISCLAIMER Email Confidentiality Footer This message is for the named person's use only. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of this message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. If you receive this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not the intended recipient. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Harvey Norman does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Harvey Norman. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:20, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 08:41 +1100, Matt Moor wrote: Hi Richard, This was one of those buzz-wordy type things a few years ago, and some of the big consumer network device companies put out product. I didn't hear about any of them reaching 100Mbit/s, though - and I'd be really surprised if they did, given the number of pairs available in your standard phone line (CAT3, as others have mentioned). You will need special hardware, as listed on the homepna.org site you linked, and I'm not sure what linux support is like. The equipment would also need to be AUSTel certified to be legal in australia (Perhaps not for a PABX system? Dunno if it would even work in this environment) Cheers, Matt P.S. If it's not AUSTel certified, but you want to take the risk, you'd want to know the difference between the US phone network (voltage, etc), and the australian one. AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network - it does not apply. And by connected to the public network they mean in any way through any device. So even if you isolate your network from the public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be connected. Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if the external/public link is wireless though (they are more concerned about electrical isolation than spurious data). At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was AUSTel Certified. Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply. James -- It is surely a great calamity for a human being to have no obsessions. - Robert Bly -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] what distro/*nix do you run latex on?
If you use tetex/latex/etc, which Linux distro do you run it on?
and does it follow the tetex file structure or does it butcher it?
Debian isn't delivering anymore and if I have to rebuild it all, I might
as well use the Summer slow period to look at other option.
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Re: [SLUG] what distro/*nix do you run latex on?
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:36:54 +1100
Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you use tetex/latex/etc, which Linux distro do you run it on?
and does it follow the tetex file structure or does it butcher it?
Hi Terry,
I'm using Ubuntu Breezy at the moment. My Latex use is pretty
straightforward (although some reasonably large text files).
Debian isn't delivering anymore and if I have to rebuild it all, I
might as well use the Summer slow period to look at other option.
What do you mean about Debian?
alan
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[SLUG] Debugging no data for the GNOME weather applet
Hi all, I have a Fedora Core 3 workstation and I like to use the weather applet to get a sense of the temperature outside. For the last couple of weeks, my weather applet hasn't worked: it has constantly shown a question mark instead of a weather icon and no temperature is shown. When I put the mouse cursor over it, a hover text box says retrieval failed. It seems to fail for a whole lot of cities: I've tested Pittsburgh (the default), Sydney, Melbourne and Boston. Anyone know how to get a better error message than retrieval failed? I've looked at the obvious thing (my GNOME proxy setting) and now I'd like an actual error message to help me fix the problem. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] HP Photosmart 2575 setup
On 06/12/05, Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hal == Hal Ashburner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hal Debian Sid.trying #/etc/init.d/hpoj setupHal gets to this: I had this problem at one point when the USB port was underspec.Thisprinter uses all of a USB2.0 bandwidth, and will not work on USB 1.0or on a USB2.0 that isn't exactly compliant. Thanks Peter, Posting to the list. Can't sufficently express how disappointing Dell's approach to hardware is. One thing after another is not what was advertised with this box. I wonder if its legal..-- Kind regards,Hal Ashburner -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote: AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network - it does not apply. And by connected to the public network they mean in any way through any device. So even if you isolate your network from the public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be connected. Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if the external/public link is wireless though (they are more concerned about electrical isolation than spurious data). At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was AUSTel Certified. Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply. Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ? Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] what distro/*nix do you run latex on?
Terry Collins wrote: If you use tetex/latex/etc, which Linux distro do you run it on? Debian and does it follow the tetex file structure or does it butcher it? I don't think it butchers it at all. It installs to: /usr/share/doc/texmf/ and /usr/share/texmf/ etc. You can view the packgaes here http://packages.debian.org/stable/tex/ and click on a package to see its full file lists and see where it will be installed to. I install local packages of my own into /usr/local/texmf Debian isn't delivering anymore and if I have to rebuild it all, I might as well use the Summer slow period to look at other option. ??? You can install tetex from CTAN and not use the debian packages. Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 [pls ignore idiot lawyer's msg below] -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Debugging no data for the GNOME weather applet
Mary, I don't use this app, but a quick squizz at the code at http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-applets/gweather/ would indicate it just uses HTTP like a web browser to grab weather details. My guess is that the server(s) configured for use may have broken or changed format. I would run up ethereal to capture the request/responses it generates (basically try to trigger an update and filter for http in the ethereal display filters). From the responses (either bad, good or non-existent) you may be able to figure out what is going on. Once you know what requests it makes, you might be able to simulate the client by using just a normal web browser). If the app is configurable you may be able make changes there, or even resolve to fix the broken code if necessary ;-) (I'm a bit of a weather junkie as well though I tend to just have quick links to places like http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95765.shtml . Maybe someone should figure how to munge this data into something like gweather) Regards, Martin Martin Visser, CISSP Network and Security Consultant Consulting Integration Technology Solutions Group - HP Services 410 Concord Road Rhodes NSW 2138 Australia Mobile: +61-411-254-513 Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify HP immediately by return email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Gardiner Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:44 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Debugging no data for the GNOME weather applet Hi all, I have a Fedora Core 3 workstation and I like to use the weather applet to get a sense of the temperature outside. For the last couple of weeks, my weather applet hasn't worked: it has constantly shown a question mark instead of a weather icon and no temperature is shown. When I put the mouse cursor over it, a hover text box says retrieval failed. It seems to fail for a whole lot of cities: I've tested Pittsburgh (the default), Sydney, Melbourne and Boston. Anyone know how to get a better error message than retrieval failed? I've looked at the obvious thing (my GNOME proxy setting) and now I'd like an actual error message to help me fix the problem. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
And speaking of networking... Australian PC User issue Jan 2006 has a hardware review about the Netcomm NP210 HomePlug devices. These units plug into a powerpoint and allow you to network between rooms using your powerpoints. Of course it ends up being slower then wireless anyways, let alone ethernet :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux distribution which one?
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:32:02PM +1100, Kasim, Yosep wrote: Both server and workstation Pretty much all distros have everything you want out of the box; mail and http servers. I like fedora for servers, because it uses selinux. Meaning that even if you don't stay up to date with security patches the damage might be limited. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] HP Photosmart 2575 setup
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 01:35:00PM +1100, Hal Ashburner wrote: On 06/12/05, Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this problem at one point when the USB port was underspec. This printer uses all of a USB2.0 bandwidth, and will not work on USB 1.0 or on a USB2.0 that isn't exactly compliant. Thanks Peter, Posting to the list. Can't sufficently express how disappointing Dell's approach to hardware is. One thing after another is not what was advertised with this box. I wonder if its legal.. Note that usb2 does not necessarily mean hi-speed usb. USB 2.0 specification incorporates three speeds: Hi-Speed, Full-Speed and Low-Speed http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
Title: Message Hehe they probably also don't tell you that it interferes with your TV, radio and hifiif you live in a marginal reception area, and doesn't work when the council's off peak hot water relay controls cut in! - Jill. -Original Message-From: Michael Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 1:59 PMTo: slug@slug.org.auSubject: Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? And speaking of networking...Australian PC User issue Jan 2006 has a hardware review about the Netcomm NP210 HomePlug devices.These units plug into a powerpoint and allow you to network between rooms using your powerpoints.Of course it ends up being slower then wireless anyways, let alone ethernet :)-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
James Gray wrote: And by connected to the public network they mean in any way through any device. So even if you isolate your network from the public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be connected. Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if the external/public link is wireless though (they are more concerned about electrical isolation than spurious data). There are three sets of rules at work. 1) Premises cabling needs to be done to ACMA standards. This refers to any fixed communications cabling, whether it connects to a public network or not. 2) The edge of the premises is the first telephone socket or the first distributor (patch panel or Krone block). Only the carrier can cable at their side of the network edge. 3) The public network edge is formed by line isolation transformers in customer equipment. Equipment installed before and at the line isolation transformer needs to be certified. -- Glen Turner Tel: (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Australia's Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:35, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote: AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network - it does not apply. And by connected to the public network they mean in any way through any device. So even if you isolate your network from the public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be connected. Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if the external/public link is wireless though (they are more concerned about electrical isolation than spurious data). At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was AUSTel Certified. Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply. Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ? Because the assumption is that you are using AUSTel approved network/telephone equipment which has been certified to meet the isolation requirements. I've personally seen what happens to a thin-ether (10base2) network when a PC's power supply decided to send all 240VAC through the motherboard and hence the network card. Goodnight Irene for everything else too. However, the same machine had an AUSTel certified internal (ISA) modem - the PABX it was running through was untouched. See the difference? James -- Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 14:45 +1100, James Gray wrote: At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was AUSTel Certified. Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply. Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ? Because the assumption is that you are using AUSTel approved network/telephone equipment which has been certified to meet the isolation requirements. I've personally seen what happens to a thin-ether (10base2) network when a PC's power supply decided to send all 240VAC through the motherboard and hence the network card. Goodnight Irene for everything else too. However, the same machine had an AUSTel certified internal (ISA) modem - the PABX it was running through was untouched. See the difference? Sorry, I think my irony was not clear enough. I'm not saying the austel standards based/useless/wrong. I was pointing out that my *power supply* is electrical equipment, connected to the phone network but not certified. So I dont see why *other equipement* cannot also be considered outside the bounds of the standards, because of the same isolation requirements. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?
Er, I think you'll find it is certified to something. Unless you are using a dodgy brothers homebrew power supply, you should see some labels on the gear which can be traced to an Australian safety standard. If your appliance doesn't connect to the telephone network then it doesn't need to have austel certification, just safety. IIRC the device connected on the phone side of the modem needs the austel certification, the modem's power supply needs austel certification if it powers up the phone line side, but anything on the other (i.e. isolated) side just needs the standard safety certification. On the subject of fun safety things, old CRT monitors without a UL flame rating can result in fires. I've seen two go up in smoke literally when their power supply expired of its own accord. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? Sorry, I think my irony was not clear enough. I'm not saying the austel standards based/useless/wrong. I was pointing out that my *power supply* is electrical equipment, connected to the phone network but not certified. So I dont see why *other equipement* cannot also be considered outside the bounds of the standards, because of the same isolation requirements. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] what distro/*nix do you run latex on?
Terry Collins wrote: If you use tetex/latex/etc, which Linux distro do you run it on? and does it follow the tetex file structure or does it butcher it? Debian isn't delivering anymore and if I have to rebuild it all, I might as well use the Summer slow period to look at other option. Debian testing works for my limited usage. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo +---+ `[Microsoft] are in the business of giving customers exactly what they ask for, which sounds like a nice idea until you realize that most Microsoft customers are idiots.' --- Eugene O'Neil on comp.os.linux.development.system -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
