Re: [SLUG] HP Photosmart 2575 setup

2005-12-06 Thread Lindsay Holmwood

Hal Ashburner wrote:


Probing /dev/usb/lp0...
*** Found Photosmart 2570 series but failed to communicate with
it!
*** Elapsed time for this attempt was 0 second(s).
*** Check syslog file for ptal-mlcd error messages.
*** See hpoj documentation for troubleshooting information.



The key line in syslog appears to my ignorant eye as 
'couldn't claim interface 2'




I've had a similar problems with a digital camera when permissions 
weren't set correctly, but it's probably unrelated to this.



I have hpijs  hplip installed as well as hpoj

http://www.linuxprinting.org//show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_2570

So its a 2575 rather than a 2570, which I thought would be unimportant.

Anyone got a cluebat handy?


I suppose the first thing to check re: usb1 vs usb2 on Dell hardware 
would be whether the usb controller is actually picking up the device 
properly.


An `lsusb` (with a -v if you're feeling game) will give you all the 
necessary information about connected devices.


If it's not showing up in the list, it's probably hardware related. If 
it is showing up, it might be some sort of permissions based thing, or 
maybe some simple misconfiguration with cups that'll take you half an 
hour to find but end up being a single misplaced character. :-)


Check to see what type of USB driver you're using under Linux too (uhci, 
ohci, ehci) - try swapping them in and out and see whether that makes 
some sort of difference, especially if it's a usb version compatibility 
thing.


I've had issues with where the device I was connecting to the usb 
controller was talking in a host mode rather than in the device mode, 
and hence wasn't showing up to the system it was connected to. I think 
that would be completely unrelated to your problem (the wonders of 
poorly written firmware), but I thought i'd throw it in to give you 
another possible avenue of investigation. :-)


Finally, it could be just a driver related thing, with the printer just 
not wanting to play nice with the Linux USB stack/drivers. I take it 
you've googled for others instances of this?


Good luck to you.

Lindsay
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[SLUG] military uniforms accessories

2005-12-06 Thread Embody


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Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-06 Thread James Gray
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 17:36, Robert Collins wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 14:45 +1100, James Gray wrote:
At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was
AUSTel Certified.  Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply.
  
   Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ?
 
  Because the assumption is that you are using AUSTel approved
  network/telephone equipment which has been certified to meet the
  isolation requirements.
 
  I've personally seen what happens to a thin-ether (10base2) network when
  a PC's power supply decided to send all 240VAC through the motherboard
  and hence the network card.  Goodnight Irene for everything else too. 
  However, the same machine had an AUSTel certified internal (ISA) modem -
  the PABX it was running through was untouched.
 
  See the difference?

 Sorry, I think my irony was not clear enough. I'm not saying the austel
 standards based/useless/wrong. I was pointing out that my *power supply*
 is electrical equipment, connected to the phone network but not
 certified. So I dont see why *other equipement* cannot also be
 considered outside the bounds of the standards, because of the same
 isolation requirements.

Ah - gotcha.  NFI, I know of one cabler who was not certified and got stung 
for wiring up a commercial premises that eventually got hooked into the 
PSTN phone system.  When the Telstra (then Telecom) dude showed up he blew 
the whistle.  They (AUSTel et al) seem to be a bit thingy about hard-wired 
data networks for some reason.

James
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[SLUG] December get-together #2 Scared Scriptless

2005-12-06 Thread Grant Parnell
Following up from last Sunday's Zig-Zag trip where a few of us made it for 
a lazy day in the mountains away from the heat. It was suggested I get 
this announcement out early.

This Friday is another excuse for SLUG people and their friends and family 
to come along to a great night of fun at the Clarence Hotel (corner 
Crystal St  Parramatta Rd Petersham). Scared Scriptless is the aptly 
named title of a regular Theatre-sports type event where teams compete by 
hacking together a piece of theatre inspired by audience suggestions, 
governed by some game rules that go for about 2 to 5 minutes and are then 
judged by the panel, the winners go to the next heat. It's frequently 
hillarious and it's great watching amateur thespians under pressure.

Show starts at 8pm, tickets $5, food available. I'll be turning up around 
7pm in SLUG shirt and cap again. It would be good to get tickets early and 
sit together but otherwise no booking necessary. Phone 0408 686 201 on the 
night if you're trying to find us.

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RE: [SLUG] linux distribution which one?

2005-12-06 Thread Kasim, Yosep
Thx for the advise

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To: Kasim, Yosep
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] linux distribution which one?

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:32:02PM +1100, Kasim, Yosep wrote:
 Both server and workstation

Pretty much all distros have everything you want out of the box;
mail and http servers.

I like fedora for servers, because it uses selinux.  Meaning
that even if you don't stay up to date with security patches
the damage might be limited.

Matt

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[SLUG] Re: [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-06 Thread jam
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:35, Robert Collins wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote:
AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the
thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper
in the walls, that is not connected to the public network - it does
not apply.
  
   And by connected to the public network they mean in any way through
   any device.  So even if you isolate your network from the public one
   with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be connected.  Not
   sure if you're still deemed to be connected if the external/public link
   is wireless though (they are more concerned about electrical isolation
   than spurious data).
  
   At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was
   AUSTel Certified.  Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply.
 
  Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ?

 Because the assumption is that you are using AUSTel approved
 network/telephone equipment which has been certified to meet the isolation
 requirements.

 I've personally seen what happens to a thin-ether (10base2) network when a
 PC's power supply decided to send all 240VAC through the motherboard and
 hence the network card.  Goodnight Irene for everything else too.  However,
 the same machine had an AUSTel certified internal (ISA) modem - the PABX it
 was running through was untouched.

 See the difference?

U ... when an elderly and distinguished scientist says something is 
impossible he's nearly always wrong ...

A nic card has an isolating transformer rated to some 1000v between it and the 
cable. For the 240v to escape A it needs a faulty transformer on A, then to 
infect B it needs another faulty transformer on B 
James
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RE: [SLUG] Re: [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-06 Thread Rowling, Jill
I thought so too, until I tested* some supposedly 1500V transformers of the 
type used in NICs and found that they broke down at voltages a lot lower than 
1500V (I think the lowest was 500V).
Unless they are tested (and certified so), they may survive or they may emit 
smoke.
Needless to say I rejected the batch.
Now a faulty switch mode power supply could potentially put a lot more than 
240V onto the low voltage output, as they switch at a much higher voltage 
internally, like 400 or 600 V. That would break down an uncertified NIC. Kaboom.

- Jill.
* that was at Scitec many years ago.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:45 AM
To: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: [SLUG] Re: [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?


On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:35, Robert Collins wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote:
AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting 
the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of 
copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network 
- it does not apply.
  
   And by connected to the public network they mean in any way 
   through any device.  So even if you isolate your network from the 
   public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be 
   connected.  Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if 
   the external/public link is wireless though (they are more 
   concerned about electrical isolation than spurious data).
  
   At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I 
   was AUSTel Certified.  Things may have changed - usual disclaimers 
   apply.
 
  Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ?

 Because the assumption is that you are using AUSTel approved 
 network/telephone equipment which has been certified to meet the 
 isolation requirements.

 I've personally seen what happens to a thin-ether (10base2) network 
 when a PC's power supply decided to send all 240VAC through the 
 motherboard and hence the network card.  Goodnight Irene for 
 everything else too.  However, the same machine had an AUSTel 
 certified internal (ISA) modem - the PABX it was running through was 
 untouched.

 See the difference?

U ... when an elderly and distinguished scientist says something is 
impossible he's nearly always wrong ...

A nic card has an isolating transformer rated to some 1000v between it and the 
cable. For the 240v to escape A it needs a faulty transformer on A, then to 
infect B it needs another faulty transformer on B 
James
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[SLUG] Automatic software requirements documents

2005-12-06 Thread Richard Hayes
Dear list,

Is there any software / tools /systems that helps create a software 
requirement documents?

We all know real programmers don't do documentationevil grin  but some 
clients actually require them.

The IEEE template is 30 pages without any content.  
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Re: [SLUG] Automatic software requirements documents

2005-12-06 Thread Tess Snider
On 12/7/05, Richard Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any software / tools /systems that helps create a software
 requirement documents?

Yes.  There are such things.  However, the one I know of best
(Rational Requisite Pro) is only available on Windows, at this time.
Given that IBM swallowed up Rational's product line, this oversight
may be corrected at some point in the future, but at $4K per seat, you
may want to look elsewhere -- like here:

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~iany/other/vendors.htm

Tess
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Re: [SLUG] Automatic software requirements documents

2005-12-06 Thread Benno
On Wed Dec 07, 2005 at 23:17:28 +1100, Richard Hayes wrote:
Dear list,

Is there any software / tools /systems that helps create a software 
requirement documents?

We all know real programmers don't do documentationevil grin  but some 
clients actually require them.

The IEEE template is 30 pages without any content.  

I use a text editor. I foudn this article useful:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog36.html
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[SLUG] xscreensaver

2005-12-06 Thread tuxta2

Hi all,
I have recently converted a few people over to Linux, people who don't 
want to know or learn about any OS, but just want to use it to get their 
work done. The result was astounding, my opinion was that Linux was the 
best OS in the world, but may not be quite ready for non enthusiasts. I 
was wrong, after setting up all the software they need, they absolutely 
love it, mainly the fact that it is faster ( no anti spy/virus/ etc. 
stuff running), they have fewer problems with it and they just love the 
window manager- Gnome (sorry kde people, but I did try both and they ALL 
preferred gnome).
Anyway, I'm quite pleased that they are using Linux (exclusively I might 
add) and are referring friends to me all the time, so I want to keep 
them happy.


A request that I got though was for a Christmas themed screen saver, I 
have had a bit of a look to see if there were any xscreensavers to fit 
the bill, but so far have come up empty handed. Does anyone know where I 
can find such a screen saver?


Thanks again sluggers

Tuxta
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Re: [SLUG] xscreensaver

2005-12-06 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, tuxta2 wrote:
A request that I got though was for a Christmas themed screen saver, I 
have had a bit of a look to see if there were any xscreensavers to fit 
the bill, but so far have come up empty handed. Does anyone know where I 
can find such a screen saver?

glsnake has a snowflake model :)

More seriously, the FuzzyFlakes hack in xscreensaver is one of my
favourites, it looks like snow falling.
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