Re: [SLUG] t/s old hardware failure

2014-06-07 Thread Amos Shapira
On 8 June 2014 09:52,  wrote:

> >> I have an old (ancient?) P4 with 30mb+40mb IDE HDs, it's just used as a
>
> must wait for next council cleanup so can pick up something more modern, I
> think
>

If your reasons are economical then have you looked at how much power this
server cost you?
Perhaps a Raspberry Pie or some other low-power server will save you lots
more power than it costs.

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Re: [SLUG] t/s old hardware failure

2014-06-07 Thread Voytek


On 8 June 2014 11:19:11 am AEST, David Lyon  
wrote:
>And you might follow these old-timers:
>www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bulk-Lot-of-9-Windows-Desktop-PC-Workstations-HP-Compaq-Dell-Intel-AMD-/231246144371
>

Thanks...
(drive past that place sometimes, never realized there is such a treasure cove 
hidden there)

Meanwhile, looked at the problem at hand:

went through BIOS, Phoenix Award, DRAM clock timing:
Performance mode: disabled - boots

If I enable, doesn't boot, seems that might have been it.

So, is that 'aging RAM' problem, can no longer cope with performance mode?


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Re: [SLUG] t/s old hardware failure

2014-06-07 Thread David Lyon
And you might follow these old-timers:
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bulk-Lot-of-9-Windows-Desktop-PC-Workstations-HP-Compaq-Dell-Intel-AMD-/231246144371



On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 11:00 AM, David Lyon  wrote:

> I've noticed quite a drop-off in Council-Cleanup PC's, around here anyway.
>
> Not say don't live-in-hope in finding a new friend, just that the days of
> all the PC's spending time together on the nature strip breathing the fresh
> air seems to have passed. It's a new generation being thrown out now. :-)
>
> Also, ebay and some other sites have some great specials for dual/quad
> core PC's that aren't the latest tech and the machines go for $60 or so
> just because they have windows-vista or something like that on them. That's
> what I use (and reinstall of course).
>
> Like for example this:
> www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hewlett-Packard-Compaq-dc7100-PN287AW-ABA-PC-Desktop-/121356833521
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM,  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, June 7, 2014 7:58 pm, Amos Shapira wrote:
>> > I'd suspect environmental issues like temp, power brown/black out, dust
>> > accumulation. Lacking any more specifics I'd grep the logs for errors,
>> but
>> > don't have much hope.
>>
>> Amos, thanks
>>
>> fwiw, to be more precise, first couple of reboots stopped after PCI
>> device/IRQ list;
>>
>> I then told BIOS to update the ESCD setting, now got PCI listing followed
>> by "Updating ESCD...Success", but, still not going further
>>
>> couldn't see anything 'bad' in BIOS so finally tried 'fail safe', and,
>> voila, boot OK
>>
>> then, set back to 'optimal', boots perfect
>>
>> (and, to add insult to injury, looking at cacti charts (which is what this
>> machine is meant to be) I realized cacti hasn't charted any data for
>> nearly 12 month... (pings to local devices, and the like))
>>
>> >> I have an old (ancient?) P4 with 30mb+40mb IDE HDs, it's just used as a
>>
>> must wait for next council cleanup so can pick up something more modern, I
>> think
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [SLUG] t/s old hardware failure

2014-06-07 Thread David Lyon
I've noticed quite a drop-off in Council-Cleanup PC's, around here anyway.

Not say don't live-in-hope in finding a new friend, just that the days of
all the PC's spending time together on the nature strip breathing the fresh
air seems to have passed. It's a new generation being thrown out now. :-)

Also, ebay and some other sites have some great specials for dual/quad core
PC's that aren't the latest tech and the machines go for $60 or so just
because they have windows-vista or something like that on them. That's what
I use (and reinstall of course).

Like for example this:
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hewlett-Packard-Compaq-dc7100-PN287AW-ABA-PC-Desktop-/121356833521



On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM,  wrote:

> On Sat, June 7, 2014 7:58 pm, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > I'd suspect environmental issues like temp, power brown/black out, dust
> > accumulation. Lacking any more specifics I'd grep the logs for errors,
> but
> > don't have much hope.
>
> Amos, thanks
>
> fwiw, to be more precise, first couple of reboots stopped after PCI
> device/IRQ list;
>
> I then told BIOS to update the ESCD setting, now got PCI listing followed
> by "Updating ESCD...Success", but, still not going further
>
> couldn't see anything 'bad' in BIOS so finally tried 'fail safe', and,
> voila, boot OK
>
> then, set back to 'optimal', boots perfect
>
> (and, to add insult to injury, looking at cacti charts (which is what this
> machine is meant to be) I realized cacti hasn't charted any data for
> nearly 12 month... (pings to local devices, and the like))
>
> >> I have an old (ancient?) P4 with 30mb+40mb IDE HDs, it's just used as a
>
> must wait for next council cleanup so can pick up something more modern, I
> think
>
>
>
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Re: [SLUG] t/s old hardware failure

2014-06-07 Thread lists
On Sat, June 7, 2014 7:58 pm, Amos Shapira wrote:
> I'd suspect environmental issues like temp, power brown/black out, dust
> accumulation. Lacking any more specifics I'd grep the logs for errors, but
> don't have much hope.

Amos, thanks

fwiw, to be more precise, first couple of reboots stopped after PCI
device/IRQ list;

I then told BIOS to update the ESCD setting, now got PCI listing followed
by "Updating ESCD...Success", but, still not going further

couldn't see anything 'bad' in BIOS so finally tried 'fail safe', and,
voila, boot OK

then, set back to 'optimal', boots perfect

(and, to add insult to injury, looking at cacti charts (which is what this
machine is meant to be) I realized cacti hasn't charted any data for
nearly 12 month... (pings to local devices, and the like))

>> I have an old (ancient?) P4 with 30mb+40mb IDE HDs, it's just used as a

must wait for next council cleanup so can pick up something more modern, I
think



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Re: [SLUG] t/s old hardware failure

2014-06-07 Thread Amos Shapira
I'd suspect environmental issues like temp, power brown/black out, dust
accumulation.
Lacking any more specifics I'd grep the logs for errors, but don't have
much hope.
On 7 Jun 2014 16:44,  wrote:

> I have an old (ancient?) P4 with 30mb+40mb IDE HDs, it's just used as a
> cacti server, has been in use as is for several years, no screen, no kbd,
> last power down was about 1 year ago
>
> today I noticed it's down, as there is no screen no keybd, I just hit
> reset, but, it didn't come up
>
> once the screen was attached I saw it was stopped on BIOS screen after:
>
> Pri. M HDD SMART enabled
> Pri. S HDD SMART enabled
>
> PCI device listing/IRQ
> (list)
> -
>
> rebooted to BIOS, set 'fail safe', booted OK
> rebooted to BIOS, set 'optimal', booted OK
>
> working fine again
>
> is there any logs that might point out why it stopped earlier ?
>
> any diags to try running ?
>
> 2.6.18-308.11.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Jul 10 08:49:28 EDT 2012 i686 i686 i386
>
> top - 16:38:48 up  1:15,  1 user,  load average: 0.24, 0.56, 0.68
> Tasks: 110 total,   2 running, 108 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
> 0.0%st
> Mem:   1002124k total,   492440k used,   509684k free,24048k buffers
> Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,   340848k cached
>
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