[SLUG] modems,ppp, linux (will I ever get online!)
Its been about 2 months since my last attempt so I thought I might try to get a net connection happening on my Linux box again. This time with a *real* modem that I know works and on Mandrake 9.1 ... dah! Everything goes fine under kppp until "logging into network" and then I get a pppd timeout error: Aug 25 19:12:57 localhost pppd[3708]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Aug 25 19:13:26 localhost pppd[3708]: Terminating on signal 15. Aug 25 19:13:27 localhost pppd[3708]: Exit. Same as I was getting before, what goes? So according to man pppd signal 15 has something to do with 'peer not responding to echo requests' or similar. Is this a problem with my ISP (bigpond) or something at my end? I can dial in manually under kppp terminal an log in with my details but then after 20secs or so I get disconnected. I am getting really fustrated, I just want to ditch M$ alltogether but I need a net connection. Can someone *please* help? Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] modems,ppp, linux (will I ever get online!)
James Gregory wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 00:02, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: James Gregory wrote: I would do what the other poster suggested -- use minicom to test that your computer is in fact talking to the modem. Then you can be sure of the port etc, and you can punch those details into kppp or mcc or whatever and work from there, knowing that at least you've got the physical connection in place. Yep, my pc is talking to the modem, it dials and I login through the terminal but nothing 'sees' the connection ie I cant ssh, telnet or use a browser. Ok, so the connection is staying up and kppp is reporting that it's still there? what interfaces does ifconfig list (just ifconfig, not -a, don't specify an interface). I have somehow now lost my ppp0 entry, ifconfig now only lists the loopback interface What does your routing table look like? just the loopback You basically need two things -- a link and a route to get packets to the internet. The link in a ppp connection will be to a single IP address. It's listed in the info that ifconfig gives you. See if you can ping that IP address. If you can, then it's almost certainly a routing issue, or perhaps name resolution. I tried using linuxconf to settup my ppp (as per a ppp howto) but it still does not work and now my system hangs on bootup while trying to bring up the ppp0 interface. I'm affraid I'm wasting everyones time with this, I really dont seem to know what it is I am doing wrong. Thanks for the help and suggestions anyhow. Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] modems,ppp, linux (will I ever get online!)
James Gregory wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 12:34, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: I tried using linuxconf to settup my ppp (as per a ppp howto) but it still does not work and now my system hangs on bootup while trying to bring up the ppp0 interface. I'm affraid I'm wasting everyones time with this, I really dont seem to know what it is I am doing wrong. Thanks for the help and suggestions anyhow. Can you be a bit more specific about what's going on? You start kppp, hit "dial" or whatever it is, then the modem goes burble burble burble, then what? Well it dials and all seems to be well until kppp says "loging onto network" or similar, then after I get a pppd timeout on signal 15 error. So kppp is a wrapper around expect (a simple scripting language for automating tasks) and pppd. kppp will make the call, use expect (or some expect work-alike) to enter your login info then pass the connection over to pppd which is the program that gives you the interface that linux communicates through (by way of some kernel modules I believe). Now, if your modem is staying connected, and there's no pppd entry when you check it, I'd say it's pretty likely that there was no pppd entry to begin with. Let's try doing this the old fashioned way and see how far you get. Do all this as root with any ethernet cables etc disconnected : Fire up minicom, ensure that it's configured to talk to your modem. Run the standard modem tests (ati3 etc). All is OK Dial into your ISP (atdt) (modem will go burble burble burble) yep log in with your username and password. At this point you should see a tilde and a bunch of random characters on your screen. That's what ppp looks like. At this point I get a message displaying my IP address and MTU details etc, no tilde and no random characters. (If I just keep waiting it eventually drops the connection with NO CARRIER.) Exit minicom *without* dropping the connection (it's "exit without reset" or "quit" or something). did this run "pppd /dev/modem debug". Replace /dev/modem with your modem device. You may need to specify a speed and such. Look through "man pppd" to see what options you can use. Also, the "debug" will dump some info into a logfile somewhere -- worth checking out. Give it a few seconds to handshake, then you should be able to see ppp0 in ifconfig. Did this but no ppp0 entry ever comes up with ifconfig, only loopback. I could not find where the debug info was dumped either. Any further ideas? Thanks for the step-by-step instructions btw. Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telnet
Paul Davies wrote: Question 1) I can telnet to the machine - but I do not seem to be able to telnet to it and log in as root. Is it not possible to telnet to a machine as root? I use ssh (and you should) to login to a server I use and I have to login as "admin" (or other user) and then use the 'su' command to become root. Question 2) Once I have telnetted to a machine I would like to be able do something with a file. I can copy and delete files etc no problem. I cannot however seem to open up a file on a remote computer and view it on the local computer with gedit for example. Could someone point me in the right direction on going about achieving this. Don't know about telnet but I can do this with the (GUI) ftp client I use. I can select the remote file and choose "veiw" or "edit" and it opens the file in the default text editor. I suppose most graphical (and command line?) ftp clients would have similar features. Though why not just edit the file on the remote machine with pico, vi, emacs or your favorite editor? egpico /path/to/myfile.txt Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telnet
Paul Davies wrote: Why though, is it OK to log in as root using ssh and not telnet? Aren't I just as likely to get my packet sniffed (so to speak)? ssh is a secure, encrypted connection to the remote machine I had to actually install a telnet server. Is ssh some sort of extension of telnet? I didn't seem to have to install a ssh server? As far as I understand ssh has little to do with telnet (other than its purpose), the ssh server must have allready been installed on the remote machine. Telnet probably wasn't due to the security concerns ;-) cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Athlon not cool in Linux
Russell Davie wrote: Linux runs the athlon 1.2GHz in this box to a steamy 46.5C This is hot? My athlon (xp1600+) consistantly runs in the mid to high fifties and creeps into the high sixties and (rarely) low seventies on a hot summers day (on Windows XP also). This is despite having a larger heatsink and fan fitted to the cpu and having extra case fans fitted. I was reassured that these temps are ok, is this the case? cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Athlon not cool in Linux
Oscar Plameras wrote: Russell Davie wrote: Linux runs the athlon 1.2GHz in this box to a steamy 46.5C This is hot? My athlon (xp1600+) consistantly runs in the mid to high fifties and creeps into the high sixties and (rarely) low seventies on a hot summers day (on Windows XP also). This is despite having a larger heatsink and fan fitted to the cpu and having extra case fans fitted. I was reassured that these temps are ok, is this the case? These temperatures are within acceptable operating temperatures. Check here, http://www.heatsink-guide.com/maxtemp.htm You may need to know about measurements corrections here, http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/2623 7.PDF Oscar Plameras http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html Thanks Oscar. cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Yuk
I received two or three just yesterday via SLUG list Brad Kevin Saenz wrote: Which ones, I haven't seen any. Please, someone tell us that there is something happening about these distasteful spam posts. Jonathan Kelly. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Subscriptions....
James Gray wrote: Call me a synic, but does anyone else think it strange that a few people took exception to spam getting on this list (like THAT was never going to happen!) and now we've had 3 subscription activation messages in the last two days?? Seems as if someone is out to "sabotage" the list just what I was thinking If you don't like spam, take some responsibility and put in place your own filters! I agree If you can't be bothered doing that (taking responsibility), take your modem and have a ritual burning - you don't belong on the internet. don't know that I would go that far - the spammers are the ones that don't belong. I mean we wouldn't suggest that someone who detests receiving regular junk mail (the paper variety) should rip out there mail box. Although I guess we might if the whinging got too much ;-) Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Hi
Jared Pritchard wrote: A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard. rofl. rofl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Hi
James Gray wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:24 pm, Jared Pritchard wrote: A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard. rofl. rofl [R]olling [O]n [F]loor [L]aughing :) -Original Message- From: Brad Kowalczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 October 2003 5:14 PM To: Jared Pritchard Cc: Slug List Subject: Re: [SLUG] Hi Jared Pritchard wrote: A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard. rofl. rofl For this and answers to the other great questions that have been plaguing mankind since homo erectus looked skyward and grunted, check out http://www.pcdl.lib.oh.us/kidszone/safety/ae.htm ;-) OIC, TNX -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Databases, some advice please.
I've just started out teaching myself SQL using mySQL as a platform, the learning curve has been very comfortable so far. I am using it primarily for web based stuff and find using mySQL and PHP together almost too easy, that said I barely have my toes wet yet :-) . I find that the documentation is also very thorough and there are plenty of online tutorials to run through. cheers, Brad Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to teach myself something on databases. The table of Window equivalents lists:--- 1) KNoda 2) Gnome DB Manager 3) OpenOffice + MySQL 4) InterBase7 (Prop) 5) InterBase6 (Presumably no longer Prop) 6) Berkley DB 7) Rekall (Prop) 8) StarOffice Adabase Has anyone any experience of any of these that they'd like to air? As I have only (very, ancient) limited experience of Access, I think thorough documentation would be a high priority. Any help, comments etc. Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] cygwin install problem
Hi all, This may be a little OT but I am trying to install cygwin on my XP box, but i am having some trouble. Upon running the installer it finds the temp download directory and seems to pass all checksums and then says install is complete and my cygwin directory seems to have the full directory tree under it, but the directories are all empty, except for /etc/setup which has a timestamp file and /var/log which contains 2 log files (see attached). Does anyone have a clue as to what could be happening here? I have manually selected all required files for installation in the installer but it makes no difference, it still wont install them. cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cygwin install problem
Phil Scarratt wrote: When you say you have "manually selected all required files for installation in the installer" have you both checked the boxes, as well as changed the status from default to install? yes thats right. I forgot to include the log file, I have send it on but because it's size is over the 25kb limit for the slug list it is awaiting moderator approval. cheers, brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cygwin install problem
Robert Collins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the best place to discuss cygwin setup issues. Really... Rob (cygwin setup maintainer) thanks Rob, I'll give it a go. Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] KPPP external modem " unexpected disconnections" forced by remote end.
Hi Roger, Do you have a phone on the same line? I was suffering a similar problem with my dialup account (it was disconnecting after about 20 min all the time). I discovered that apparently some older touch-tone telephones can cause enough interference on the line to cause a disconection. After I removed my telephone from the double adapter I was using to split the phone line I had no problems. Cheers, Brad Roger Salisbury wrote: Hi sluggers Someone may had the very same modem problem listed below. IE a "^@" sequence sent from the remote end. (ISP=bigpond) I am running RedHat 9 and having trouble with frequent unexpected disconnections with a bigpond dialup account. Have tried different dial up 56 external modems with the exactly same problem. The hint given belopw is for some reason always a "^@" sent from the remote end. I nearly always get cutoff within 15 minutes, although the longest is about 35 minutes. Any help greatly appreciated Thanks Roger KPPP error message: ### Notice that the remote system has sent the following message: "^@" This may give you a hint why the the connection has failed. Check that you supplied the correct username and password! # Extra Info: ATI responses (won't mean much) & log # ATI : 33600 ATI 3: V2.200-V34_ACF_DS1 ATI 6: RCV336DPFSP Rev 44BC # ct 29 00:11:26 localhost pppd[4701]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Oct 29 00:11:26 localhost pppd[4701]: Using interface ppp0 Oct 29 00:11:26 localhost pppd[4701]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 Oct 29 00:11:27 localhost pppd[4701]: Remote message: ^@ Oct 29 00:11:27 localhost pppd[4701]: local IP address 203.40.128.204 Oct 29 00:11:27 localhost pppd[4701]: remote IP address 144.130.139.242 Oct 29 00:11:27 localhost pppd[4701]: primary DNS address 203.49.70.92 Oct 29 00:11:27 localhost pppd[4701]: secondary DNS address 139.134.2.190 Oct 29 00:24:22 localhost pppd[4701]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Oct 29 00:24:22 localhost pppd[4701]: Modem hangup Oct 29 00:24:22 localhost pppd[4701]: Connection terminated. Oct 29 00:24:22 localhost pppd[4701]: Connect time 13.0 minutes. Oct 29 00:24:22 localhost pppd[4701]: Sent 45144 bytes, received 7870 bytes. Oct 29 00:24:22 localhost pppd[4701]: Exit. # -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Removing Toolbars etc.. from browser window
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi :
I've tried this in the perl script with no luck. Here is what I did. I
have this after reading replies I got.
$javascriptwin = "
function openWindow(u, n, w, h)
{
var win = window.open(u, n, \"toolbar=no,location=no,\"+
\"status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes\"+
\"width=\"+w+\",height=\"+h);
}
";
In the hash that has the is pasted below:
%hashdata = (
...
'key_data' => ["http://www.domain.com/file.html\",\"win\";, 400,
400); return false;\">?<\/a>"],
);
This does not open a new window at all. I also do not even see the
contents of the file as well.
Have I missed something here?
rather than using the onclick event try:
'key_data' => ["http://www.domain.com/file.html\",\"win\";, 400,
400);\">?<\/a>"]
cheers,
Brad
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Re: [SLUG] Removing Toolbars etc.. from browser window
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Brad:
[Louis] below.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi :
I've tried this in the perl script with no luck. Here is what I did. I
have this after reading replies I got.
$javascriptwin = "
function openWindow(u, n, w, h)
{
var win = window.open(u, n, \"toolbar=no,location=no,\"+
\"status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes\"+
\"width=\"+w+\",height=\"+h);
}
";
In the hash that has the is pasted below:
%hashdata = (
...
'key_data' => ["http://www.domain.com/file.html\",\"win\";, 400,
400); return false;\">?<\/a>"],
);
This does not open a new window at all. I also do not even see the
contents of the file as well.
Have I missed something here?
rather than using the onclick event try:
'key_data' => ["
openWindow(\"http://www.domain.com/file.html\",\"win\";, 400,
400);\">?<\/a>"]
[Louis] Sure but I also want no toolbars, no menu bars, but only scrollbars.
So I do this :
$option = "toolbar=no,location=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes";
and add $option at the tail of your code snippet.
So I guess I add an extra variable in your code snippet. I will try again
with the above snippet and see what happens.
No, you are calling your openWindow() function which allready has those
details in it, does it not?
cheers,
Brad
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Re: [SLUG] No more Red Hat Linux support after April 30 2004 - Quick Survey
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 15:11, Robert Collins wrote: Also, as somebody else mentioned, Debian seems to be the (almost) universal choice of the professionals on this list. I *think* that is an argument in favour of giving it a try :-) I also thought I'd give it a try for this reason. I got the base install done OK but had some troubles getting X installed and working. It was off an APC cover cd a few months back and I think it required me to download a heap of stuff off the net to actually get a 'proper' desktop OS happening. I'm very new to the UNIX/Linux scene but I'll buy a cd set one of these days and give it another go. cheers, Brad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] No more Red Hat Linux support after April 30 2004 - Quick Survey
Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 17:34, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 15:11, Robert Collins wrote: Also, as somebody else mentioned, Debian seems to be the (almost) universal choice of the professionals on this list. I *think* that is an argument in favour of giving it a try :-) Just a note folk: watch your quoting: I never typed/said either of those things. Rob Sorry Rob. I was obviously not careful enough with my message trimming. Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] php text recommendations
Hi all, have been looking about for a good php programming text (possibly including some SQL stuff), but there a just so many out there! If anyone can recommend something I would appreciate it. I dont really need it to cover introductory/basic stuff more focus on intermediate to advanced techniques/concepts would be good. TIA Brad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] php text recommendations
Bernard Doyle wrote: One good book is : PHP and MySQL Web Development by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson It's currently in a 2nd Edition. It gets a rating of 4 on Amazon. It's really good if you are looking for PHP project design guidelines. For what it's worth, the authors are Australian as well. Bernard Doyle Thanks Bernard, I had a look at the books contents on Amazon, it looks like it could be just the thing. :-) cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] php text recommendations
Chris Barnes wrote: I also use this book and Its really handy. It does cover the basics of PHP and MySQL but it also gets into the thick areas too. I don't think I'd call it advanced though. I was probably getting a little ahead of myself including 'advanced' coverage in my criteria anyhow :-) I just wasn't after something that went into too much detail with basic language stuff like scope, writing functions, arrays, loops, conditionals etc etc. I'm hoping to start doing a little web design/development on the side while I'm studying (CompSci) and wanted a good book that delved into some meatier areas to pick my skills up a little, like e-commerce and database driven stuff. I also have a little pet project (web based chat app) that I want to work on in the hols. It looks like the mentioned book may definitely be one to check out. brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Removing Toolbars etc.. from browser window
Louis wrote: Hi Brad: Well finally tried what you suggested. 'key_data' => [" openWindow(\"http://www.domain.com/file.html\",\"win\";, 400, 400);\">?<\/a>"] Unfortunately when I click on the "?" nothing happens. I don't see any javascript error from IE when I load the page. So it's not the javascript openWindow() I put in. Any other ideas. Cheers. What does the final HTML source look like? There must be some kind of mistake in the perl script output. Is this page online anywhere? brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Removing Toolbars etc.. from browser window
Brad Kowalczyk wrote: Louis wrote: Hi Brad: Well finally tried what you suggested. 'key_data' => [" openWindow(\"http://www.domain.com/file.html\",\"win\";, 400, 400);\">?<\/a>"] Unfortunately when I click on the "?" nothing happens. I don't see any javascript error from IE when I load the page. So it's not the javascript openWindow() I put in. Any other ideas. Cheers. What does the final HTML source look like? There must be some kind of mistake in the perl script output. Is this page online anywhere? brad umm... actually you will need to use single quotes inside the openWindow call. so 'key_data' => ["http://www.domain.com/file.html','win', 400, 400);\">?<\/a>"] should do the trick. brad -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] php text recommendations
Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:48:12PM +1100, Brad Kowalczyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Chris Barnes wrote: I also use this book and Its really handy. It does cover the basics of PHP and MySQL but it also gets into the thick areas too. I don't think I'd call it advanced though. I was probably getting a little ahead of myself including 'advanced' coverage in my criteria anyhow :-) I just wasn't after something that went into too much detail with basic language stuff like scope, writing functions, arrays, loops, conditionals etc etc. I'm hoping to start doing a little web design/development on the side while I'm studying (CompSci) and wanted a good book that delved into some meatier areas to pick my skills up a little, like e-commerce and database driven stuff. I also have a little pet project (web based chat app) that I want to work on in the hols. It looks like the mentioned book may definitely be one to check out. That book will do that. Read it chapter for chapter and DO what it says and you are off creating "meaty" websites in no time. I used it when it came out first (late 2000?) and got me going quickly. jobst Thanks all for your suggestions, the text "PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson has had a few good raps now so I think I'll probably go with it. thanks again, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] php text recommendations
Michael Collins wrote: Thanks all for your suggestions, the text "PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson has had a few good raps now so I think I'll probably go with it. thanks again, Brad Everythinglinux has this book for $77.95 yep, thats weres I'll be buyin from. I even got my CompSci text for uni cheaper from everythinglinux than I could from the Campus Bookshop even with student discount and gst rebates etc. :-) brad -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Removing Toolbars etc.. from browser window
Michael Collins wrote: [Louis] Well it finally worked but now the problem is the scrollbars won't show. Snip of the JS code is pasted below from previous post.
function openWindow(u, n, w, h)
{
var win = window.open(u, n, "toolbar=no,location=no,"+
"status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes"+
"width="+w+",height="+h);
}
Shouldn't it be 'scrollbar' instead of 'scrollbars' nope, 'scrollbars' it is... it would have been that missing ',' that stuffed it. Hope its working for you now Louis, finally :-) cheers brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Teraterm and control-c
Peter Vogel wrote: I'm using Teraterm under Windows as a terminal to a linux box. After much we searching I still can't figure out how to make Teraterm send a controlC (to break). Any pointers appreciated. Hi Peter, I think you might find that Alt-B sends a break on teraterm. I used to use it but switched to Putty a while ago. Cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Freedom and Alternatives
Christopher Vance wrote: Oh yes, my personal choice is to run *BSD at home. Trying to get Fedora working at home recently (specifically for Planet CCRMA) reminded me why it's only at work I run on Linux. I've been tinkering with the idea of giving FreeBSD a go on my home pc, but have a few Q's: 1. what is hardware compatibility like? 2. what is the install process like? (I don't really have time for a complex install process atm) 3. Can it be easily installed to dual boot with windows xp and is there software like WINE et al that will let me run some windows apps like photoshop and perhaps dreamweaver, fireworks and flash 2004 MX ? cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Freedom and Alternatives
Thanks for the comprehensive answer Chris :-) cheers, Brad Christopher Vance wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:24:50AM +1100, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: I've been tinkering with the idea of giving FreeBSD a go on my home pc, but have a few Q's: 1. what is hardware compatibility like? Sometimes not as bleeding edge as Linux. If your hardware is new this month, you might need to wait a couple of months for the software to catch up. (I had DMA problems with my new HD controller from SiS, but they were rectified quite quickly on all the BSDs.) Otherwise, no problem. I have sometimes run Linux binaries under emulation, but my Java and OpenOffice are native. 2. what is the install process like? (I don't really have time for a complex install process atm) Not as pretty as Red Hat or SuSE, nor as spartan as OpenBSD or NetBSD, but still quite usable. Text based, with curses windows. 3. Can it be easily installed to dual boot with windows xp and is there software like WINE et al that will let me run some windows apps like photoshop and perhaps dreamweaver, fireworks and flash 2004 MX ? I have a relatively new machine which boots (in order of frequency) Windows XP Home, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Fedora, NetBSD, and Plan 9. Next one to go in is Dragonfly, a FreeBSD fork. For this machine I use Ranish, but I also use grub with no problems, and have used lilo in the past. My server runs FreeBSD, and my firewall OpenBSD. Given a real Windows machine, I haven't investigated wine or vmware. Sorry. Each BSD has a base system, divided into a small number (<10) of 'distributions', such as 'bin' (or 'base') 'etc', 'misc', 'man', 'compiler'. Beyond that, you can install thousands of 'packages' (>8000 for FreeBSD), or compile them yourself from 'ports' (a slightly bigger number, because some packages are not allowed to be distributed in binary form, or on pay-for media). On some of the BSDs, parts of X are also distributions, while others have X as 'packages'. (As an example, grep is part of the base system for all of the BSDs. On some BSDs this is a GNU grep, while on others it's a BSD grep, with a separate package available if you really wanted the GNU one. Perl is part of the base on OpenBSD, is a package on NetBSD, and the correct answer for FreeBSD depends whether you're talking -STABLE (base) or -CURRENT (package).) BSD-specific questions might better be sent to the BUGS list if Sydney location is relevant, or to OS-specific lists if not. http://www.bugs.au.freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Programming Book, for Open Source.
Gottfried Szing wrote: this was my idea and the comparison of both sites is very interessting. when you take the numbers and take from both sides the top5, the picture is completely different. freshmeat sourceforge FM+SF C 5799C 12377C18176 Perl 2852C++ 12251C++14891 C++ 2640Java 10670Java13269 Java 2599PHP 8073Perl10280 PHP 2207Perl 5159PHP8011 Using your figures I think the FM+SF column should have PHP @ 10280 and Perl @ 8011, ;-) cheers, Brad -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [OT] Banks, Telcos and ISPs.
Greg Cockburn wrote: I have looked at Commonwealth Banks site, but it does not render properly in Konq or Moz, so I am going to presume that their internet banking doesn't work properly either. So are there any other banks you would reccommend that have excellent electronic facilities. (I currently do 99.99% of my banking electronically. EFT-POS, CC, Internet, little cash, no cheques) I use the National Bank's internet banking and despite an error message telling me that my browser is incompatible (which you can select not to see again) it does work fine with Moz Firebird. There facilities have been everything I need. (arrggh dont you just hate saying a good word about a bank!) cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Who has spoken to Commonwealth bank Tech support?
ksaenz wrote: This is just me and I think java had it's day. Perl rules ;) And Perl hasn't had it's day (on the web)? :P cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mail Server Software...Which One???
Terry Denovan wrote: Hi, I want to be able to setup a Linux based Mail Server which will be able to replace my current Exchange Server 5.5…. I need to be able to have all the mail, calendars, notes etc…stored on the server so Outlook 2000 or 2002, will be able to access it all like it does with Exchange Server. Any comments on this is appreciated. Kind Regards, **Terry Denovan** Not sure if it is going to fill all your requirements but there is a great webmail server/client program developed by a company called CalaCode, based in Kurrajong (NW Sydney). It is written in Perl and includes all the source, though it is not free. The software is called @Mail (http://www.atmail.com), they have a pretty impressive client list for a small local outfit. brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Qestion about configure
Hi sluggers, I haven't used the configure tool much before while building from source and am wondering if I want to configure in new options or change old ones do I need to include all the origional configuration options I used or will it 'remember' these and just add or change the new options I use? cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] File based databases?
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I need a file based database for a program I'm working on. I don't want to have the whole database server thing happening that you get with MySQL which is also a bit heavyweight for my pruposes. I'm thinking of using Tridge's libtdb, but I'd like to look at other options as well. Any suggestions? Erik I have had a little look at SQLite that is built in to php5, looks neat. cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] File based databases?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:21:11 +1100 Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 05:03:38PM +1100, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: I have had a little look at SQLite that is built in to php5, looks neat. Meaning distributed with I guess. Built into PHP5? It's a separate application library with bindings for multiple languages. AFAIK, it's no more "built-in" to PHP5 than it is built into Perl, Python, or C++. None of Perl, Python or C++ are distributed with sqlite. Matt I guess this is the essence of what I meant when I (perhaps wrongly) said 'built in'. Wow, I never would have thought that such a small slip in terminology would create a stir. After all I wasn't discussing the technicalities of the SQLite implementation under PHP, simply the fact that it is included with PHP5 (no need to grab third party libs etc) and it looked like a handy tool. Anyhow once PHP5 is compiled (or built) it seems to me that it _is_ 'built in' (compiled in), there is no need to have a separate R/DBMS installed on your system such is the case when using MySQL, Postgresql and others with PHP. (no doubt there are more badly used terms here too! ;-) ) Cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Bill Bennett wrote: It's a peculiar request, so please bear with me. I had been asked why Linux was immune to the wave of viruses that have been pillaging Microsoft-oriented machines. To be honest, I didn't have a ready reply. The best I could do was "Well, Linux is differently organised." Feeble, I know, but the enquirer was not a nurd and, if it comes to that, neither am I. So I thought about the matter. I wanted a good analogy. This was the best that came to mind: "Assume someone has put something in your petrol that rots piston heads and only piston heads. Eventually the engine will fail. *However* it's not going to affect me if my engine is a Wenkel." Perhaps, if they know what on earth a Wenkel is ;-) Continuing the automotive theme... Perhaps 'because you can't get a leaded petrol bowser to fit into an unleaded[1] vehicle'. The virii are designed to attack MS systems (mostly) not UNIX/Linux ones. [1] unleaded being the choice for the Linux OS as it wont cause "learning disabilities, behavioral problems, and, at very high levels, seizures, coma, and even death" (http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/about/about.htm) like the MS alternative :-) cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Bill Bennett wrote: You're right. I have a feeling that it may be extinct now, but a Wenkel engine did not run on pistons. Bill Bennett. =+-> Brad Kowalczyk wrote: =+-> Perhaps, if they know what on earth a Wenkel is ;-) Is it not (or similar to) Mazda's rotary engine? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Richard Neal wrote: Here here I was about to reply when I saw this...very nice. Only thing I want to add is why do we have so many varying car models and aeroplanes... because of evolutionary diversity in the design. Yet all these thing are created by intelligence... And these 'varying' models are all really very much the same. Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Name based virtual hosts...
John McQuillen wrote: On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 00:21, Patrick Lesslie wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:34:46PM +1100, John McQuillen wrote: However, if I access http://localhost/admin/phpMyAdmin/ (with a trailing slash) it works. Could anyone tell me why that is? The config is as follows: NameVirtualHost * ServerName www.mcquillen.bur.st ServerAlias *.mcquillen.bur.st localhost DocumentRoot /var/www/html/ DocumentRoot doesn't like a trailing slash (apparently bug in mod_dir). Thanks Patrick, I have removed the trailing slash, however, the behaviour is still as I described... Any other ideas? Or is this perhaps just something that I have to learn to deal with (not that it is really a big deal after all) ? Is the path to phpMyAdmin /var/www/html/admin/phpMyAdmin ? Or is it aliased? If you alias a directory and include a trailing slash then you must also include a trailing slash in the url. Cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] KDE dies
Edwin Humphries wrote: and whilst I know there is a way to open a new tty shell f4rom within an X application, I can't seem to find it. You almost had it there :), ctr + alt + F1 (or any F key up to F6, F8 gets you back to X) Cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Which open source license is best
Ken Foskey wrote: On Sat, 2004-06-05 at 13:18, Mary Gardiner wrote: - for larger projects: LGPL or GPL, because I tend to be interested in the health of the project more than the ability of people to use the code for whatever purpose they like (distributing the code is healthy for the project, distributing changes is healthy, but "making a closed source fork" isn't because it won't help the project grow). This is the crux of the argument isn't it. Whether we ensure the continued growth of FOSS. Is the use of FOSS code in applications that are closed a huge evil or do we want to propagate the use of FOSS code. If we have another programmer using the code and (hopefully) contributing bug fixes to a library then isn't this better for all. It is creating a standard. The other approach is the GPL approach that says that in order to strengthen GPL you must create GPL libraries and place a burden on the commercial programmer to choose between GPL or rewriting the functionality. The programmer must relearn a proprietary solution if they can find one because of the license or rewrite the library. What will happen to their next program? Will they contribute that code back? Unlikely and not useful if they do. As a CompSci student and wannabe developer I must admit I'm a bit baffled and running scared with all the legal hoops involved in software development. Just one small Q, lets say I develop an app and release it under say the GPL, if I then improve on this app adding new features and functionality and wish to make a $ with it can I then release it under a >closed source license even though it is heavily based on GPL'd code? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GNU/Linux User's Group of Sydney
Matthew Palmer wrote: On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 01:00:53PM +1000, Johngibbons wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:58 am, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:50:24AM +1000, Johngibbons wrote: A freeware enthusiast, I am reminded of a lesson I learned when I was in a war: "Attack from all sides". The more groups the better. More groups equals a wider range and selection of tactics and stategies. One organisation may reduce to one approach. Go GLUG!!! How many totally separate armies did you have fighting on one team? Probably only one against any one target. Although they were attacking from all sides, they were probably under some sort of coordinated command. One appropriate organisation can coordinate an attack from many different angles, whereas multiple uncoordinated organisations will probably waste most of their energies fighting each other, rather than getting on and slaughtering their common enemy. Good point Matt. However, the assumption is that the 'one appropriate organisation' has the right strategy and resources in the first place. Also, I'd look to improve an existing organisation before I started a new one. Starting a new organisation takes large amounts of resources. considering the economic might of the opposition we may end up with no alternative but guerrilla warfare. Which is not what anyone has suggested in this thread to date. Guerrilla warfare implies secretiveness and independent action. GLUG would be another public group. And I'd certainly disagree that at this point in time Guerrilla warfare would be productive. We *have* a positive public image, we have no reason to hide in the dark. I agree. Surely pooling all our resources together will be much more productive than dividing our energy between two or more similarly motivated groups. The energy/time/money overhead duplication associated in simply organising and running a similar group is wasteful and could be much better spent in tackling the real issues. Just my 2c... Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book
Stuart Guthrie wrote: I'm looking for a good book on CSS. I was wondering if anyone had a fav. they might be able to recommend. Stuart I've found that just a copy of the W3C CSS spec (http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/#specs) combined with poking about in other peoples CSS and playing about with ideas yourself is sufficient. Also check out http://www.csszengarden.com/ for some cool CSS designs base on the same HTML, pretty cool what can be achieved. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG]
Trevor Tregoweth wrote: HI All i was wondering if someone could help me, this is probably a simple task, but for someone thats not done any before it seems impossible I have a mysql database, with data in it, and i would like to be able to produce that data on a web page, so would appreciate some examples, i don't mind if its simple, just want to be able to view it via a web page You will need to write a script (using PHP, Perl, Python, or whatever other language you use) that accesses the database, pulls the required info from it, formats the data and outputs it to the web browser. Each language has its own interface for accessing databases so without knowing which language your using an example is not much help. There are multitudes of tutorials on the net for this sort of thing though so just pick your scripting language and do a search like this: 'mysql php tutorial' Most web hosts will have php or perl installed on their servers for you to use. Cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox Download Server Overload ?
DaZZa wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, O Plameras wrote: Just checking if anyone else is experiencing tremendously slow download for Firefox Browser from http://www.mozilla.org ? It is maybe due to a number of articles about Firefox in a number of US online daily news provider today, like this one: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47146-2004Nov13.html I am used to 52KB/sec download but since early this morning am getting only 13KB/sec. Think yourself lucky - last week when they released V 1.0 I got something like 7KB/sec. 7KB/sec! WOW! thats like 2-3x what i deal with everyday :( -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.3.0 - Release Date: 13/11/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Phill wrote: I found a long time ago that NAB works ok (I haven't checked recently as I do have to use window$ as my working environment). They use jsp pages so that should be platform independent. Yeah, I use NAB and despite a warning page (which you can suppress if you let it put a cookie on your machine) about an incompatible browser, I have no prob using Firefox 0.8 or higher on windoze. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.290 / Virus Database: 265.3.1 - Release Date: 15/11/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu
As far as I know they began the mailout process a couple of weeks ago, dunno where they are being mailed from though. I don't have mine yet either... Christopher Booth wrote: Me too, still haven't seen them. Chris - Original Message - From: "Michael Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "john gibbons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Good question. I applied on the site and have yet to see any cd's and this is some months after I did it. Get a friend to download them for you, or wait out for the next slug install fest and I will bring my machine with a collection of isos that people are welcome to ftp off. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:15:36 +1100, john gibbons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know when the free Ubuntu CDs that were written about some weeks back will be sent out? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.290 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 19/11/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] no XP boot with ubuntu, dialup weirdness
Hi all, Couple of questions: 1. I got my ubuntu cd's the the other day (BTW the live cd did not work for me, seemed to die at X startup, just a black screen) and promptly did an install onto a vacant partition on my HD. Everything ran smoothly, detected all my hardware and my XP installation. However despite XP being on the grub boot list it now refuses to boot. I couldn't browse my XP partition with ubuntu (can you? I couldn't find it) so I threw in Lindows live cd and all my windows data seems intact. So question is does anyone know how I may be able to fix this XP boot problem? I installed FC3 over ubuntu hoping that it might somehow fix the problem but no luck... 2. I finally managed to get my computer connected to my ISP under Linux (ubuntu) but despite a connection (dialup) I could not actually access any address on the net, with either direct IP address or domain name. Then after I installed FC3 I treid again and this time I got connected and was able to connect to addresses on the net, but only for a few minutes before everything came to a halt despite the connection still being there. I checked /var/log/messages and there is the following extract: Dec 10 09:54:49 localhost ifup-ppp: pppd started for optusnet on /dev/ttyS0 at 57600 Dec 10 09:54:49 localhost pppd[17843]: pppd 2.4.2 started by root, uid 0 Dec 10 09:54:49 localhost pppd[17843]: Removed stale lock on ttyS0 (pid 17258) Dec 10 09:54:50 localhost wvdial[17856]: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.54.0 Dec 10 09:54:50 localhost wvdial[17856]: Initializing modem. Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATZ Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATZ Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: OK Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: OK Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATM1L1 Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATM1L1 Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: OK Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Modem initialized. Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATDT019833 Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Waiting for carrier. Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATDT019833 Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: CONNECT 26400 Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: User Access Verification Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: Username: username: login: Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: Carrier detected. Chatmode finished. Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost pppd[17843]: Serial connection established. Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost pppd[17843]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost pppd[17843]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 Dec 10 09:55:15 localhost pppd[17843]: PAP authentication succeeded Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: local IP address 210.49.224.133 Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: remote IP address 210.49.224.254 Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: primary DNS address 203.2.75.132 Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: secondary DNS address 198.142.0.51 This doesn't seem to indicate any errors, is there somewhere else I should look? If anyone has any ideas they would be greatly appreciated, before I go mad... Cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] no XP boot with ubuntu, dialup weirdness
DaZZa wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Brad Kowalczyk wrote:
2. I finally managed to get my computer connected to my ISP under Linux
(ubuntu) but despite a connection (dialup) I could not actually access
any address on the net, with either direct IP address or domain name.
Then after I installed FC3 I treid again and this time I got connected
and was able to connect to addresses on the net, but only for a few
minutes before everything came to a halt despite the connection still
being there. I checked /var/log/messages and there is the following extract:
Dec 10 09:54:49 localhost ifup-ppp: pppd started for optusnet on
/dev/ttyS0 at 57600
Dec 10 09:54:49 localhost pppd[17843]: pppd 2.4.2 started by root, uid 0
Dec 10 09:54:49 localhost pppd[17843]: Removed stale lock on ttyS0 (pid
17258)
Dec 10 09:54:50 localhost wvdial[17856]: WvDial: Internet dialer version
1.54.0
Dec 10 09:54:50 localhost wvdial[17856]: Initializing modem.
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATZ
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATZ
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: OK
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1
&D2 +FCLASS=0
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: OK
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATM1L1
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATM1L1
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: OK
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Modem initialized.
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Sending: ATDT019833
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: Waiting for carrier.
Dec 10 09:54:51 localhost wvdial[17856]: ATDT019833
Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: CONNECT 26400
Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: User Access Verification
Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: Username: username: login:
Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost wvdial[17856]: Carrier detected. Chatmode
finished.
Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost pppd[17843]: Serial connection established.
Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost pppd[17843]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 10 09:55:14 localhost pppd[17843]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Dec 10 09:55:15 localhost pppd[17843]: PAP authentication succeeded
Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: local IP address 210.49.224.133
Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: remote IP address 210.49.224.254
Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: primary DNS address 203.2.75.132
Dec 10 09:55:16 localhost pppd[17843]: secondary DNS address 198.142.0.51
This doesn't seem to indicate any errors, is there somewhere else I
should look? If anyone has any ideas they would be greatly appreciated,
before I go mad...
Can you ping the listed remote IP address when the conection comes up?
If you can, and you can't ping anything else, then do you have a default
route pointing out the PPP connection?
I can ping anything for a minute or so, or use browser or email but then
it just stops sending/receiving
Try doing this {as root} once your connection is up
route add default gw
did that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ppp]# /sbin/route add default gw 210.49.225.254
SIOCADDRT: File exists
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ppp]# /sbin/route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
210.49.225.254 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0
169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 00 lo
default 210.49.225.254 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0
Then try to ping something else.
no luck, I get the following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ppp]# ping -c3 216.55.97.142
PING 216.55.97.142 (216.55.97.142) 56(84) bytes of data.
ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available
ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available
ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available
--- 216.55.97.142 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 21087ms
Cheers,
Brad
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Re: [SLUG] no XP boot with ubuntu, dialup weirdness
DaZZa wrote: OK - a quick google seems to indicate that there's a problem with your kernel buffer space. ulimit -s 10240 is the suggested fix I found - but I'm not guaranteeing this is right. As to how to fix this permanently - if this is indeed the problem - I have no idea. JFGI, I would suggest. DaZZa Thanks for the suggestions Dazza (and Grant) and googling on my behalf :) but unfortunately the problem still exists. I have been persisting for so long with Linux with the main problem always having been internet conectivity. When I finally got Fedora to dial, connect, stay connected and then visit my first webpage on Linux I thought I could finally make the switch, but alas some other problem arises! I think I am cursed, I must have unwillingly sold my soul to MS when accepting some EULA of theirs :P BTW Is there any way to flush the buffer manually, or is this a really bad idea? I started a ping from the time my connection came up: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ping 210.49.224.254 PING 210.49.224.254 (210.49.224.254) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 210.49.224.254: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=281 ms 64 bytes from 210.49.224.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=190 ms 64 bytes from 210.49.224.254: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=182 ms 64 bytes from 210.49.224.254: icmp_seq=34 ttl=255 time=362 ms 64 bytes from 210.49.224.254: icmp_seq=35 ttl=255 time=191 ms 64 bytes from 210.49.224.254: icmp_seq=36 ttl=255 time=171 ms ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available --- 210.49.224.254 ping statistics --- 69 packets transmitted, 37 received, 46% packet loss, time 87061ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 156.957/215.230/362.926/62.341 ms, pipe 2 Cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] no XP boot with ubuntu, dialup weirdness
DaZZa wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Brad Kowalczyk wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions Dazza (and Grant) and googling on my behalf
:) but unfortunately the problem still exists. I have been persisting
for so long with Linux with the main problem always having been internet
conectivity. When I finally got Fedora to dial, connect, stay connected
and then visit my first webpage on Linux I thought I could finally make
the switch, but alas some other problem arises! I think I am cursed, I
must have unwillingly sold my soul to MS when accepting some EULA of
theirs :P
This could still be caused by a hardware problem of some sort - you don't
mention what kind of modem you have doing the dialing, or how it conects
to your computer - if you have some kind of winmodem or internal modem, do
you have any chance of borrowing an external modem and trying with that?
The modem is a NetComm Roadster II 56 Ultra SVD connected via serial port.
Also, what are you using do actually do the dialing? How do you establish
the connection?
just using the 'Network Device Control' under GNOME to activate the ppp0
interface
How long {time wise} does it take for the connection to stop working?
usually around 1 - 1.5 minutes but ATM it has been up for 12 minutes and
is still working ?!
Cheers,
Brad
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[SLUG] pppd
Hi, I am trying to setup my NETCOMM Roadster II modem to run under Linux (RedHat7.3) but without any luck. I have created an account with all the correct ISP details etc, and the modem dials and connects to the server but I get a timeout with pppd, during authentication I think. I had the same trouble with Mandrake 9.0, any ideas? cheers, Brad
[SLUG] ISP connection probs
I wrote to this list a little while ago regarding my netcomm roadster II modem. I am still having probs with both linux and WinXP, XP says it is unresponsive though It works through a terminal program and on Linux, strange. Though it dials my ISP (Telstra) on Linux I cannot get a successful connection, my kppp log is below: ATZ OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT019830 CONNECT 26400 ** Dial IP ** Username: Password: Entering PPP Session. IP address is 203.54.167.220 MTU is 1524. But then I get a timeout error with pppd: Apr 3 16:14:41 localhost pppd[14416]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Apr 3 16:15:40 localhost pppd[14416]: Terminating on signal 15. Apr 3 16:15:40 localhost pppd[14416]: Exit. Is this a problem on Telstra's end? I had a look at man pppd and found that signal 15 was something about no echo response from peer. Please excuse my ignorance in these matters, I desperately want to rid myself of windows but I have a lot of learning to do! Any help greatly appreciated Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] unavailable fonts in Gimp
Hi Slugers, I have recently installed Mangrake 9.1 (love the distro btw) and am having some problems with alot of fonts being unavailable in Gimp. They appear in the font dialog box but when selected a message appears in the bottom of the box saying that the font is unavailable. Why? Kate, OpenOffice.org Writer etc have all fonts available so why not Gimp? Cheers, Brad -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] has anyone had joy installing a dicksmith intel pci modemon linux?
I was looking to purchase what I think is the same modem, it had a little picture of tux on the packaging and said it was Linux compatable. After a little googling I decided that it was probably not worth risking the $50 purchase price. I think I have also seen a (negative?) post about this modem a little while ago on slug. Though if anyone has got it working with minimal fuss I would also be interested in hearing about it. Brad On 15 Jul 2003 18:22:06 +1000, Kevin Saenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was just given an internal dick smith modem. The modem has an intel chipset and apparently runs on linux but my mandrake system doesn't recognise it. At the moment I am just running makedev /dev can anyone help? thanks Kevin -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Statement of Attainment in Linux
As a Linux newbie I would be very interested in this course, however I live about 250km NW of Sydney. I don't suppose that such a course might be included in TAFE's OTEN in the future, allowing people away from Sydney or other major centres to study remotely? Probably a long shot. Brad On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:40:08 +1000, Geoffrey Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Educational Allies and other dudes, A few TAFE people had a meeting yesterday in Sydney's west---we have launched the process to creating some Linux Statement of Attainment courses. I think I'm right in saying these will be the first courses in Australia to offer an inexpensive ($150) open entry Linux specific qualification. They formalize the courses we have had running at Granville TAFE Electrical Engineering Dept. for a number of years. For your comment The courses: Statement of Attainment in Linux Subjects: o Occupational Health and Safety 18 hours Is this necessary? Doable by project work or RPL o Introduction to Linux (72 hours) Easy Introduction for non technical people. 80% GUI 20% basic command line. Moms and Pops course. o Linux and MS Windows network Integration (72 hours) Easy Introduction to networking. 100% GUI Install and network a mix of OSs. Show how nearly everything that you can do with Linux can be done with a legacy commercial system. o Running Linux (72 hours) Introduction to Linux for computer literate people. Aimed at people studying Computer Science at other institutions, administrators of legacy commercial systems or any all those who have been running Linux somewhere and would like to fill in the gaps in their knowledge. o LAMP (72 hours) --- proposal only at this time For Linux literate people. Set up and configure Apache. Install and use a free database. Learn Perl / PHP / Python and create a Website with these tools. Flexable delivery roject based course? o TBA 72 hours Your idea goes here. Statement of Attainment in LPI Certification Level 1 o LPIC 101 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: Completed "Running Linux" or equiv. or RPL or "LPIC 102 Exam Preparation" This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 101. o LPIC 102 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: Completed "Running Linux" or equiv. or RPL or "LPIC 101 Exam Preparation" This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 102. Statement of Attainment in LPI Certification Level 2 o LPIC 201 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: "LPIC 101 Exam Preparation" and "LPIC 102 Exam Preparation"or LPIC Level 1 Certification. This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 201. o LPIC 202 Exam Preparation (72 hours) Entry requirement: "LPIC 101 Exam Preparation" and "LPIC 102 Exam Preparation" or LPIC Level 1 Certification. This subject follows the detailed objectives published by LPI for exam LPIC 202. Comments Geoffrey lcdp.sf.net -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] UWS IE5 Policy
On 09 Aug 2003 22:57:52 +1000, Malcolm V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On principle I refuse to change my user agent string, especially when others want to point at analysis of their webserver logs to "prove" the popularity of various browsers. exactly. Why people still think they can use user agent strings to get an accurate indication of the percentage market share for the different browsers out there is beyond me. Unfortunately I think a lot of non IE browsers are calling themselves IE. If I remember correctly the default setting in Opera 7.1 is to identify itself as IE?? Not sure about Mozilla. Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
