[SLUG] PPP Multilink

2005-09-12 Thread Richard Luckhurst



Hello 
All

I have an 
installation where I have 2 Fedora 3 boxes in a rural environment about 2Km 
apart. At present I have a PPP link between them running very nicely at 115K. 
What I would like to do increase the bandwidth of the link between the 2 boxes, 
possibly by using multilink PPP. I have plenty of copper available and extra 
serial ports is no big problem and I have plenty of serial line drivers 
available.
Wireless or fibre 
are not an option for this job.

Has anyone got 
multilink working on a link between 2 Linux boxes? If so do they have any tips 
or gotcha's?

Regards

Richard
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RE: [SLUG] Webserver behind ADSL router

2005-08-29 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Thanks James

That looks just like what I want to do for this guy. I had not come across
the Bind view directive before. I had a look at the Bind documentation and
am now even more confused. Does anyone have a nice explanation of how to use
the view directive? I guess this is what is known as split DNS isn't it?

Regards

Richard

-Original Message-
From: James Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 29 August 2005 2:26 PM
To: Richard Luckhurst; Slug
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Webserver behind ADSL router


On Monday 29 August 2005 14:03, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Richard Luckhurst

  Has anyone ever set a web server up on an ADSL line anything like this?
  If so I would appreciate the benefit of your experience. Has anyone had
  experience in setting up the DNS for a situation like this? If so I
would
  appreciate any help.

 There's no trickery involved. Just set the A records for the root domain
 and the www subdomain to his ADSL's static IP... and you're done.

 - Jeff

Just to add to Jeff's comments, if you need separate addresses returned by
the
DNS server depending on whether the request came from an internal or
external
client, you might want to look at ISC Bind's (ver 9+) view directive.

Let's say your customer's webserver (www.foo.com) has the address
192.168.0.80
but it's external (internet static IP via NAT) is 1.2.3.4.  You probably
want
internal users to have www.foo.com resolve to 192.168.0.80 but external
users
resolve to 1.2.3.4.  ISC Bind's view will allow you to do this with a
single config file and single named daemon - and it's actually quite simple
to do.

Have a look at the bind 9 admin reference:

http://www.nominum.com/content/documents/bind9arm.pdf
specifically sections 6.2.19 and 6.2.20 (page 80).

HTH,

James
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[SLUG] Webserver behind ADSL router

2005-08-28 Thread Richard Luckhurst



Hello 
All

I have been asked to 
set a Fedora box up as a web and mail server for a customer of mine in his 
business grade ADSL service. He is using a Netcomm NB1300 as hisADSL 
router and he has a static IP assigned by his ISP. I have Apache and Postfix 
running fine on the box. I have Ports 25, 53, 80 and 110 forwarded on the NB1300 
router and I have them forwarded to the IP address of the Fedora box. I am a bit 
confused on how to set the DNS up to get the whole thing to work. At present if 
I browse to the static IP address assigned by the ISP I can see the standard 
Apache test page. I need to be able to use the domain name. I have a domain name 
registered for this guy and at present it is delegated pointing to the static IP 
assigned by the ISP as advised by the domain supplier.

Has anyone ever set 
a web server up on an ADSL line anything like this? If so I would appreciate the 
benefit of your experience. Has anyone had experience in setting up the DNS for 
a situation like this? If so I would appreciate any help.

Regards

Richard
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[SLUG] Slow Mailserver after ADSL connection

2004-10-07 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hello All

I have a customer with a network of 20 WinXP PC's and a WinNT Server. I set
them
up a Redhat box about a year ago as a mail server. The box had a modem
hanging off
it that dialled each morning and was connected all day to give them internet
connectivity.
I run getmail to pick up their mail from the ISP and to sort it into the
various mailboxes
and I use postfix to take care of outgoing mail. I had a simple script set
up to take care
of NAT and firewall rules to allow the PC's to see the internet if they
wanted WEB access.

All this ran fine for about a year until they got ADSL installed and did
away with the dial
up access. What has been done is that the script has been removed, along
with everything
to do with the dial up modem. The ADSL router is now taking care of the NAT
and the PC's
all see the internet no worries. I changed the static IP address of this box
from192.168.0.1
to 192.168.0.5 and have the ADSL router as 192.168.0.1. I changed the
nameservers in
resolv.conf to reflect the new servers at the new ISP. I also made changes
to postfix and 
getmail so that they deal with the new mail servers at the new ISP.

What I now find is that this box is very slow responding to telnet logins
from any PC on the
network and mail pickup is now very slow. It used to be very fast logging
into this box via telnet
and also very fast picking up email, now it takes about 8-10 seconds to get
a login prompt or
for mail to be picked up. I have similar setups with a number of customers
and they work fine.
Has anyone got any ideas on what I have stuffed up with this box?

Regards

Richard

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Re: [SLUG] POS Software for a Record Chain

2003-08-29 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Title: Message



Hi all

Watch out for Winstore. Depending how their shop is 
set up
it also produces sales statistics that are sent to 
their music supplier. This 
data is used for stuff like the ARIA music sale 
statistics and is how the
figures about who is selling what song and when are 
generated. Not all
shops useWinstore in this way but I have a 
few clients who used
to do this. Make sure they are not using it for 
stats generation.

Regards

Richard

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:36 
  AM
  Subject: [SLUG] POS Software for a Record 
  Chain
  
  Hi 
  All
  
  One of my clients 
  is a Major Record Chain that is looking at moving from their Windoze 
  Environment to a Redhat onethe problem is their POS Software (A product 
  called Winstore for anyone who knows of it).
  
  Migrating all of 
  the users to Linux machines is a No Brainer and will work fine but Migrating 
  their Sales software to a Linux alternative is a little trikier. 
  
  
  Does anyone know 
  of a Retail operation like a record company using any such software? Can 
  anyone reccomend some good free POS software for running on 
  Redhat?
  
  I look forward to 
  hearing from people.
  
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[SLUG] A few Problems

2002-11-25 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hi list

I set up 2 Redhat 7.2 boxes over the weekend and I have them connected
with a dial up PPP link. When the link is not up each machine works fine.
When the link is up the machine that started the link has problems. If I
try to ping it from itself I get a connect error however I can ping the
other
machine OK and I can ping the first machine from the second even though
I can't ping it locally. I can't even ping localhost.

Also while the link is up I am finding a lot of processes run very slowly.

I have tried to get the ppp link to come up automatically during the boot
process and it works fine. But when i do things this way the login process,
to the kde desktop, takes ages.

Does anyone have any clues?

Regards

Richard



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[SLUG] Ping and other Problems

2002-11-24 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hi list

I set up 2 Redhat 7.2 boxes over the weekend and I have them connected
with a dial up PPP link. When the link is not up each machine works fine.
When the link is up the machine that started the link has problems. If I
try to ping it from itself I get a connect error however I can ping the
other
machine OK and I can ping the first machine from the second even though
I can't ping it locally. I can't even ping localhost.

Also while the link is up I am finding a lot of processes run very slowly.

I have tried to get the ppp link to come up automatically during the boot
process and it works fine. But when i do things this way the login process,
to the kde desktop, takes ages.

Does anyone have any clues?

Regards

Richard


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Re: [SLUG] mgetty

2002-11-22 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hi Glen
 
 To protect the punters your modem won't answer calls
 by default.  You'll need to send it an
 
AT S0=2
 
 command, which will instuct the modem to answer on the
 second ring (some modems will refuse a command to answer
 on the first ring, as one way of meeting ACA requirements).
 

That makes sense to me but it is against what the mgetty manual
says. According to the manual you must not have S0 set to anything
because mgetty takes care of the answering.

Regards

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[SLUG] mgetty

2002-11-21 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hi list

I am setting up a redhat 7.2 box with a netcomm Mega I modem
on ttyS0 and I am trying to get mgetty working. I have used all the
defaults and mgetty is starting from inittab OK. When I try to dial into
the machine the modem is always off hook. I have tried a couple of 
modems to make sure they are OK and they work fine. Any ideas
would be appreciated

Regards

Richard


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Re: [SLUG] PPPD with Demand Option

2002-11-17 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hi List

Thanks to everyone who has offered ideas. I disconnected the Redhat
server from the Lan for the whole weekend and logged all the activity
happening using the iptables entry that was suggested to me by Peter
Rundle. I found a definite pattern and the link is coming up every 83
minutes and some traffic is happening, about 900K received and 270K
sent every time.

At the same time, logged in messages, there is an attempt to send a packet
from
127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 from Source Port (various between 33125 and higher)
to Destination Port 53. Looking at /etc/services port 53 is the nameserver.

I have never turned any DNS stuff on for this machine and I don't understand
why it might be trying every 83 minutes but that would make some sense if it
is
trying to update it's DNS maps.

The next question is how to stop these lookups every 83 minutes or how to
filter them so pppd does not bring up the link. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks a lot

Richard

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Re: [SLUG] PPPD with Demand Option

2002-11-14 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hi List

Thanks for all who have suggested the problem might be the Windows PC's
trying to update or do something. Last night I unplugged the server from the
LAN so the Windows PC's could have no effect. I still got 7 ppp dial ups for
no particular reason. I am now logging all activity to see what might be
causing
the link to come up. One time last night the link did not go down after the
idle
time and stayed up for 20 minutes for no reason at all.

Regards

Richard


 Some things to check for is subscribed pages in IE and also Windows Update
on
 the PCs - which I assume are running some form of Windows.  Windows Update
can
 check automatically for updates unless you tell it otherwise.  Also
anti-virus
 programs can also check automatically for updates.  I suspect there is a
 program somewhere in the background that is doing an auto check for
something.

 One other way to see what it is, setup squid (or similar proxy/cache app)
and
 set the PCs to point to that.  Then look at the logs and see what is being
 requested.  (Or, if using IPMASQ on the linux box, enable logging for
that, but
 that could be rather volumous.)


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[SLUG] PCCOM Multi Port Serial Card

2002-11-14 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hello List

I am setting up 2 Redhat 7.2 boxes with PCCOM 8 port PCI serial
cards in them. The manual for these cards carries on about having to
set up entries in rc.serial for these 8 serial ports. In 7.2 rc.serial does
not exist. I have just done some poking around with setserial for ttyS4-11
and the 8 ports seem to be working without having to do anything. Is
this correct?

Regards

Richard


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[SLUG] PPPD with Demand Option

2002-11-13 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hello List

I have a Redhat 7.2 box set up as a file server and as an internet/email
gateway. I am using the demand option for pppd to make the link dial
on demand. I have 3 PC's connected to this box and I am using samba
to allow them to have network drives on the Linux box. The dial
on demand works fine, when ever one of the PC's fires up it's browser
the link comes up. As they only have one POP mail account the PC
with Outlook Express also brings the link up no problem when Outlook
Express is started. I have a problem with the link coming up quite a 
few times for no particular reason and this is costing the client a fair
bit of money as they must call STD for net access as they are very remote.
The only guess I have is that they also use Outlook and a Microsoft
Postoffice on one of the PC's for internal email and are not keen to
change. Is it possible that when the Outlook clients check the MS Mail
that the PPP is starting up, even though it is not being called? I can
find no way to determine what is actually bringing the link up. I would
appreciate any thoughts on how to determine what is bringing the
link up and how to stop it coming up when not required.

Regards

Richard


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Re: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-20 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Hi Jill

Thanks for both of your emails. I had considered the Cyclades terminal
servers but the client has insisted on using the stand alone Linux PC's
as he already has them. I was thinking along the lines of using Stallion
cards as these are well supported under Linux. These also are not that
expensive, around $800 each. What I am really interested in is a way
of creating a virtual multiplexer for the 8 ports on the Stallion card.

The whole idea is that the 2 Linux PC's and the dial up serial link has
to look transparent to the devices. At present I have not been able to
find much info on how to achieve this.

Regards

Richard

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 And on a similar note you might want to have a look at Cyclades terminal
 servers.
 They have Linux in a box with lots of serial ports and an ethernet
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[SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi List

I have been asked to look into an interesting project for a client
of mine. I have to use a Linux box at both sites the client operates.
I have to have 6 serial ports available at the remote site. At the main 
site I have to recover the 6 serial ports so they can be plugged into
a proprietary terminal server along with another 30 serial devices.
I am intending to get the 2 Linux boxes connected with a simple dial
up PPP link. I have found a number of suitable 8 port serial cards
that will take care of the extra ports. Has anyone ever had any 
experience in multiplexing and then demultiplexing serial ports
in this way? The main requirement is the devices at the remote end
should see the terminal server at the main end as if there were no link.
The serial devices only operate at 9600 and there is not a great deal
of data involved.

This system is replacing a very expensive and ancient multiplexer
system that used a Telstra microlink for comms. With the end of
microlinks and the crazy cost of Onramp, along with the ancient
hardware being used, the client wants to update.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards

Richard


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[SLUG] PPPD with Demand Option

2002-09-24 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hello List

Has anyone managed to get pppd with the demand option working
for dial on demand in Redhat 7.2? If so how?

It seems that this is a better and more flexible way of doing dial on
demand than diald which I have never been able to get to work.

Thanks in advance

Richard


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Re: [SLUG] PPPD with Demand Option

2002-09-24 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi Howard

The error I am getting is that it never dials on demand.


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From: Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard Luckhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Slug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] PPPD with Demand Option


 On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Richard Luckhurst wrote:
 
  Hello List
 
  Has anyone managed to get pppd with the demand option working
  for dial on demand in Redhat 7.2? If so how?
 
 Yes, it works fine.
 
 What sort of errors are you getting?
 Does it connect then drop out?
 Does it not connect again if it drops out?
 Have you tried debugging the session?
 
 More info needed.
 
 
  It seems that this is a better and more flexible way of doing dial on
  demand than diald which I have never been able to get to work.
 
 diald was good but I haven't used it now for about 3 years.
 
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[SLUG] Redhat Login problem

2002-09-17 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi List

I am still trying to sort out a Redhat login logo problem I have
been having. Hopefully there is someone else who hates the redhat
logo on the list.

I am using KDE as my default desktop manager and I am using
the graphical login. I want to get rid of the Redhat logo and boring
blue screen that sits behind the login window. I have set a background
image using the KDE tools. When I log out I get my image for about
2 seconds and the login window comes up but the Redhat thing then 
comes up over the background image I have chosen. 

I have looked at gdmconfig and it doesn't seem to have anything to do 
with the problem.

Does anyone have a clue how to get rid of the redhat screen once and 
for all?


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[SLUG] Redhat Logo

2002-09-10 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi List

I am setting up a Redhat 7.2 box for a client and they have
just asked me how I can kill the Redhat Logo page that sits
behind the graphical login and replace it with an image of their own.
I've never even considered this before. Does anyone know how
to do it?

Regards

Richard


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Re: [SLUG] SU Problems

2002-09-04 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hello list

Thanks to all who replied. I also suspected some foul play
but now I am not so sure. I now suspect a know it all operator
working for my client. The actual fault was found to be the
mode changed on /bin/su. For some reason the mode was
rwxr-xr-x instead of what it should be rwsr-xr-x. Again I
am yet to find a reason for the change but a simple chmod 
fixed the problem.

Regards

Richard

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Subject: Re: [SLUG] SU Problems


 
 My thought too.  Things tend not to behave differently
 for no reason.  Especially things like su.
 Perhaps your pam modules or config has been trojaned.
 
 
 Richard Neal wrote:
  You might want to check that su hasn't been replaced with a rootkit su.
  
  On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 17:47, Richard Luckhurst wrote:
  
 Hi list
 
 I am using Redhat 7.2 for a client and today noticed a problem I've
 not seen before. I went to become root as I always have, with su, 
 and instead of being asked for the root password and becoming root
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[SLUG] Su Problems

2002-09-03 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi list

I am using Redhat 7.2 for a client and today noticed a problem I've
not seen before. I went to become root as I always have, with su, 
and instead of being asked for the root password and becoming root
I got asked for the password and then got an error about not being able to
change groups. I have checked that no one has been playing around with
the group and passwd files and they are untouched as are the permissions
on /bin/su. Has anyone got any idea why I might now be getting this
error?

Thanks a lot 

Richard



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[SLUG] Su Problems

2002-09-03 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi list

I am using Redhat 7.2 for a client and today noticed a problem I've
not seen before. I went to become root as I always have, with su, 
and instead of being asked for the root password and becoming root
I got asked for the password and then got an error about not being able to
change groups. I have checked that no one has been playing around with
the group and passwd files and they are untouched as are the permissions
on /bin/su. Has anyone got any idea why I might now be getting this
error?

Thanks a lot 

Richard


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[SLUG] SU Problems

2002-09-03 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi list

I am using Redhat 7.2 for a client and today noticed a problem I've
not seen before. I went to become root as I always have, with su, 
and instead of being asked for the root password and becoming root
I got asked for the password and then got an error about not being able to
change groups. I have checked that no one has been playing around with
the group and passwd files and they are untouched as are the permissions
on /bin/su. Has anyone got any idea why I might now be getting this
error?

Thanks a lot 

Richard



Richard Luckhurst

Manager / Engineer
Sound Advice
P.O. Box 104
Narrabri NSW 2390 Australia

Ph / Fax +61 2 6792 6060

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] Internet --- 486 firewall NAT --- Workstation

2002-01-05 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi

Take a look at Nobbys Net. http://www.nobbys.net.au They have just started
offering DOV in rural NSW. The guy who owns the business Ken Kirkby is
pretty good at getting rural solutions working. They also have a reasonable
price on satellite.

Regards

Richard Luckhurst

- Original Message -
From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: SLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: [SLUG] [OT] Internet --- 486 firewall  NAT --- Workstation


 I am a country user. I approached Telstra re ISDN, but unfortunately the
 service was not available on our (small) exchange. My question for others,
 however is: Who in the major providers, will do DOV, as when I spoke to
them,
 no-one knew anything about it. (The small providers are too expensive
 usually).
 I am in the unfortunate position of not having ADSL or IDSN available, (We
 need 25 users to get ADSL equipment installed, and the village only has
about
 100 houses, but even then I am on the extreme distance limit @ 8 Km. (ADSL
 will run on country cable to 8Km apparently, but at reduced bandwith).
IDSN
 is not an option as the hardware is not in the exchange. I have looked at
 Satellite, but the cost of running it is prohibitive (Satellite connection
 $40+ ISP $25 + Line rental $25 + calls $5 = expensive) Unfortunately they
 have priced 2 way satellite at above this cost.
 The only way I can see to get reasonable access would be to set up a
 Bluetooth radio uplink, line of site, to someone who has ADSL access, 
will
 let me piggyback. (ie I pay for their service) This would be about 10Km
 direct, but I would have to find a suitable (freindly) site.
 You others are so lucky in the cities! ( unfortunately I can see the
 services not improving much in the country in the long term)
 Doug
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Re:[SLUG] Fetchmail v/s GetMail

2001-12-18 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi All

Here is my 2 cents worth on both. I have been using both for a while
with Linux and FreeBSD with very little difference with either operating
system.

Fetchmail is OK but the config file can be a bit tricky to set up. The
documentation is next to useless for a first time user. The FAQ is OK.
It works well enough but can just die or hang for no particular reason.
It is a real pain to get working when you want to have a bunch of users
sharing one cheapy dial up mail account. It does work really well for
sending mail on to other mail servers within your LAN.

Getmail is much simpler to get going as long as you are very careful
which version of Python you have installed. It will not work with the
latest versions due to API changes in Python. Getmail is a Python
application
where Fetchmail is actually a standalone executable. The config file is
easy to set up. No other MTA is required as Getmail actually writes the
mail directly to the users mailbox. There is no daemon mode so it must
be run in a script or under cron to keep polling mail. It is great for
sorting
mail for multiple users sharing a dial up account. The documentation is
worse than useless as it is all but non existent.

Anyway I reckon they are both OK but getmail is a bit easier to get going.

Regards

Richard


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