Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 21:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...We...We...We...our...us...we So you don't like spelling mistakes, but you like grammatical ones? And shouldn't this be in chat? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
Ok. I'll bite the Troll... [Youch!] On Mon, 13 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 May 2002, Daniel Stone wrote: So blantant, unreasoned Microsoft bashing is OK in your eyes? Please learn how to spell first.. Ahha! so not only are you a Microsoft basher, you're a Linux basher as well? There are several websites out there that discuss how poor the spelling of the most inteligent and dedicated to the community can be. In my book, Bashing _ANYONE_ for who they ARE is _TOTALLY_ uncool. What is bad about microsoft is what they do (and don't do), not who they are. Anyone who cannot compete on this basis is irrelevent and a nusiance. Peace through superior Firepower, Oh? I thought superior firepower usually leads to oppression. Mutual diplomacy leads to peace. You know, like Microsoft lacks? /Torqumada [You hear distant the sound of keyclicks as a flame filter gets edited. :] -- Jessica Mayo. (Everything with a Grin :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 07:36:09PM +1000, Jessica Mayo wrote: Ok. I'll bite the Troll... [Youch!] On Mon, 13 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 May 2002, Daniel Stone wrote: So blantant, unreasoned Microsoft bashing is OK in your eyes? Please learn how to spell first.. Ahha! so not only are you a Microsoft basher, you're a Linux basher as well? There are several websites out there that discuss how poor the spelling of the most inteligent and dedicated to the community can be. Normally I'm the #slug spelling and grammar fiend, but as yet, no-one's made a website as to how much NEC keyboards suck. :) -- Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://raging.dropbear.id.au KDE Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde.org Kopete: Multi-protocol IM clienthttp://www.kdedevelopers.net/kopete/ msg23436/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Jessica Mayo wrote: dear Jessica, Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam resources. Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers Ahha! so not only are you a Microsoft basher, you're a Linux basher Peace through superior Firepower, /Torqumada -- Paladin Corporation Pty Ltd. Ph:+612 9835-4782 Fax:+612 9864-0487 Software Engineering:c/c++/perl/sql/eiffel/pascal/haskell/php/java Powered by FreeBSD/SMP http://www.paladincorp.com.au/ The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne -Chaucer When I die, don't cry for me; just sing a Song and laugh. Torq/2001. As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to them, you may not copy, forward disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:51:23PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam resources. Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers Hey, I work for a company, too! (Funnily enough, I didn't think this was The Age Classifieds). -- Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://raging.dropbear.id.au KDE Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde.org Kopete: Multi-protocol IM clienthttp://www.kdedevelopers.net/kopete/ msg23446/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
Sadly you have to make do with what you are allowed to work with. It all depends on how educated the IT manager is. At times you will have to deal with M$ crud. others you will have to deal with extremely old OSes like SCO 5.0.5. I really Wish I had the luxury to say to my bosses it's linux or it's me. I know their preference :) Realisticly *hic* Businesses are Dinosours that plod along until they find something that will extend their life. Sorry if there are typos I have had 2 bottles of red. :) Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam resources. Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers Hey, I work for a company, too! (Funnily enough, I didn't think this was The Age Classifieds). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
On 13 May 2002, Kevin Saenz wrote: Dear Kevin, Well that depends, you can do what I did a long time ago and work for yourself and refuse to work with unacceptable O/S's. Or you can work for a Boss, who controls what you do and how you do it. We might stress, that it is your decision what you do with your Lives and what technologies you work with. Linux and open-source has been very kind to us, such that it empowered us to put Redmond completely behind us and be independant. If you are not in a position to be self-employed, then perhaps work on convincing your employers to deploy more linux/unix/bsd, dunno dude... thats my $0.02c Sadly you have to make do with what you are allowed to work with. It all depends on how educated the IT manager is. At times you will have to deal with M$ crud. others you will have to deal with extremely old OSes like SCO 5.0.5. I really Wish I had the luxury to say to my bosses it's linux or it's me. I know their preference :) Realisticly *hic* Businesses are Dinosours that plod along until they find something that will extend their life. Sorry if there are typos I have had 2 bottles of red. :) Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam resources. Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers Hey, I work for a company, too! (Funnily enough, I didn't think this was The Age Classifieds). Peace through superior Firepower, /Torqumada -- Paladin Corporation Pty Ltd. Ph:+612 9835-4782 Fax:+612 9864-0487 Software Engineering:c/c++/perl/sql/eiffel/pascal/haskell/php/java Powered by FreeBSD/SMP http://www.paladincorp.com.au/ The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne -Chaucer When I die, don't cry for me; just sing a Song and laugh. Torq/2001. As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to them, you may not copy, forward disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
Sadly you have to make do with what you are allowed to work with. It all depends on how educated the IT manager is. At times you will have to deal with M$ crud. others you will have to deal with extremely old OSes like SCO 5.0.5. I really Wish I had the luxury to say to my bosses it's linux or it's me. I know their preference :) geez - You lucky fella - you get to use SCO5.0.5? Im forced to use SCO3.mumble.mumble on some of the rare occations I am forced to use sco. Remember however bad it seems it can always get worse, and ussually does thanks, the Djinn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)
Dear Kevin, Well that depends, you can do what I did a long time ago and work for yourself and refuse to work with unacceptable O/S's. Or you can work for a Boss, who controls what you do and how you do it. We might stress, that it is your decision what you do with your Lives and what technologies you work with. Linux and open-source has been very kind to us, such that it empowered us to put Redmond completely behind us and be independant. If you are not in a position to be self-employed, then perhaps work on convincing your employers to deploy more linux/unix/bsd, dunno dude... thats my $0.02c Dude, you need to chill a little bit. I agree, everyone makes their own life decisions either directly or indirectly, and probably shouldn't whinge about their lot, but there are very few jobs available that are what we would call ideal for ourselves (mind you, most people are never satisfied anyway) and not everyone has the cash/ability/knowledge/whatever to get up and start their own business. There are many people on this list who work with some OS's they don't particularly like, and a lot of us _do_ try to convince employers to deploy more unicies, but why make it a religion when you need to get the references to get to the good work, and the axe is over your neck at any rate. Fact of the matter is that there _are_ other OS's out there that someone _has_ to work with, and people need to make a living to get themselves in a position to work how/where they want (plus the fact that at least if _you_ are the person working the network with 5 ms servers and 2 unix servers, you'll know that someone else isn't screwing up the unix machines grin). Some of us are contract bound (by nasty big companies who take advantage of naive young up and coming professionals - sigh), and whatever the reason for using what you call unacceptable OS's, I think getting on your high horse and preaching is neither encouraging, nor (to use Jaq's word) productive. If you are so interested in promoting open source and such, do a talk at a meeting, encourage people, do posts that are relevant and useful to people. I mean in the time I've been on the slug mailing list there are only 4 posts from you, all of them vaguely condescending. There, that is _my_ 2 cents worth. Regards, Pia Smith -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug