Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-14 Thread Malcolm V

On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 21:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...We...We...We...our...us...we

So you don't like spelling mistakes, but you like grammatical ones?

And shouldn't this be in chat?

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[SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread Jessica Mayo


Ok. I'll bite the Troll... [Youch!]

On Mon, 13 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 13 May 2002, Daniel Stone wrote:
  So blantant, unreasoned Microsoft bashing is OK in your eyes?
      
 Please learn how to spell first.. 

Ahha! so not only are you a Microsoft basher, you're a Linux basher as
well?  There are several websites out there that discuss how poor the
spelling of the most inteligent and dedicated to the community can be.

In my book, Bashing _ANYONE_ for who they ARE is _TOTALLY_ uncool.

What is bad about microsoft is what they do (and don't do), not who they
are. Anyone who cannot compete on this basis is irrelevent and a nusiance.

 Peace through superior Firepower,

Oh? I thought superior firepower usually leads to oppression.
Mutual diplomacy leads to peace. You know, like Microsoft lacks?

 /Torqumada

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Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread Daniel Stone

On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 07:36:09PM +1000, Jessica Mayo wrote:
 
 Ok. I'll bite the Troll... [Youch!]
 
 On Mon, 13 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 13 May 2002, Daniel Stone wrote:
   So blantant, unreasoned Microsoft bashing is OK in your eyes?
   
  Please learn how to spell first.. 
 
 Ahha! so not only are you a Microsoft basher, you're a Linux basher as
 well?  There are several websites out there that discuss how poor the
 spelling of the most inteligent and dedicated to the community can be.

Normally I'm the #slug spelling and grammar fiend, but as yet, no-one's
made a website as to how much NEC keyboards suck. :)

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Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread torqumada

On Mon, 13 May 2002, Jessica Mayo wrote:

dear Jessica,

Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years
Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were
involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam
resources.

Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely
believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to
Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers

 Ahha! so not only are you a Microsoft basher, you're a Linux
basher


Peace through superior Firepower,
/Torqumada

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Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread Daniel Stone

On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:51:23PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years
 Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were
 involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam
 resources.
 
 Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely
 believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to
 Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers

Hey, I work for a company, too!

(Funnily enough, I didn't think this was The Age Classifieds).

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Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Saenz

Sadly you have to make do with what you are allowed to work with.
It all depends on how educated the IT manager is.
At times you will have to deal with M$ crud.
others you will have to deal with extremely old OSes like
SCO 5.0.5. I really Wish I had the luxury to say to my bosses
it's linux or it's me. I know their preference :)

Realisticly *hic* Businesses are Dinosours that plod along until they
find something that will extend their life.


Sorry if there are typos I have had 2 bottles of red.

:) 

  Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years
  Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were
  involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam
  resources.
  
  Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely
  believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to
  Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers
 
 Hey, I work for a company, too!
 
 (Funnily enough, I didn't think this was The Age Classifieds).


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Re: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread torqumada

On 13 May 2002, Kevin Saenz wrote:

Dear Kevin,

Well that depends, you can do what I did a long time ago and work
for yourself and refuse to work with unacceptable O/S's. Or you can work
for a Boss, who controls what you do and how you do it. 

We might stress, that it is your decision what you do with your
Lives and what technologies you work with. Linux and open-source has been
very kind to us, such that it empowered us to put Redmond completely
behind us and be independant. If you are not in a position to be
self-employed, then perhaps work on convincing your employers to deploy
more linux/unix/bsd, dunno dude... thats my $0.02c



 Sadly you have to make do with what you are allowed to work with.
 It all depends on how educated the IT manager is.
 At times you will have to deal with M$ crud.
 others you will have to deal with extremely old OSes like
 SCO 5.0.5. I really Wish I had the luxury to say to my bosses
 it's linux or it's me. I know their preference :)
 
 Realisticly *hic* Businesses are Dinosours that plod along until they
 find something that will extend their life.
 
 
 Sorry if there are typos I have had 2 bottles of red.
 
 :) 
 
   Hi, but sorry, no. We have been a firm advocate of Linux for many years
   Since discovering it, while studying at UTS in the early 90's. We were
   involved in some early Debian/LPI work. We also provide anti-spam
   resources.
   
   Please feel welcome visit our website or talk to us, if you sincerely
   believe we are not 100% behind Linux and Freebsd and alternatives to
   Redmond. Hope to hear from you soon, cheers
  
  Hey, I work for a company, too!
  
  (Funnily enough, I didn't think this was The Age Classifieds).
 
 

Peace through superior Firepower,
/Torqumada

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RE: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Wilsmore


 Sadly you have to make do with what you are allowed to work with.
 It all depends on how educated the IT manager is.
 At times you will have to deal with M$ crud.
 others you will have to deal with extremely old OSes like
 SCO 5.0.5. I really Wish I had the luxury to say to my bosses
 it's linux or it's me. I know their preference :)

geez - You lucky fella - you get to use SCO5.0.5? Im forced to use
SCO3.mumble.mumble on some of the rare occations I am forced to use sco.

Remember however bad it seems it can always get worse, and ussually does

thanks,
  the Djinn
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RE: [SLUG] Bite the Troll... (Re: Anti-MS bullshit)

2002-05-13 Thread Pia smith



 Dear Kevin,

 Well that depends, you can do what I did a long time ago and work
 for yourself and refuse to work with unacceptable O/S's. Or you can work
 for a Boss, who controls what you do and how you do it. 

 We might stress, that it is your decision what you do with your
 Lives and what technologies you work with. Linux and open-source has been
 very kind to us, such that it empowered us to put Redmond completely
 behind us and be independant. If you are not in a position to be
 self-employed, then perhaps work on convincing your employers to deploy
 more linux/unix/bsd, dunno dude... thats my $0.02c

Dude, 
you need to chill a little bit. I agree, everyone makes their own life
decisions either directly or indirectly, and probably shouldn't whinge about
their lot, but there are very few jobs available that are what we would call
ideal for ourselves (mind you, most people are never satisfied anyway) and
not everyone has the cash/ability/knowledge/whatever to get up and start
their own business. There are many people on this list who work with some
OS's they don't particularly like, and a lot of us _do_ try to convince
employers to deploy more unicies, but why make it a religion when you need
to get the references to get to the good work, and the axe is over your neck
at any rate. Fact of the matter is that there _are_ other OS's out there
that someone _has_ to work with, and people need to make a living to get
themselves in a position to work how/where they want (plus the fact that at
least if _you_ are the person working the network with 5 ms servers and 2
unix servers, you'll know that someone else isn't screwing up the unix
machines grin). Some of us are contract bound (by nasty big companies who
take advantage of naive young up and coming professionals - sigh), and
whatever the reason for using what you call unacceptable OS's, I think
getting on your high horse and preaching is neither encouraging, nor (to use
Jaq's word) productive. 

If you are so interested in promoting open source and such, do a talk at a
meeting, encourage people, do posts that are relevant and useful to people.
I mean in the time I've been on the slug mailing list there are only 4 posts
from you, all of them vaguely condescending.

There, that is _my_ 2 cents worth.

Regards,
Pia Smith

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