Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Jeff Waugh



> Can't help with the schedules issue (but very interested if anyone else
> knows of such a thing.)

No, this is a black hole in Free Software land. But you can replace Exchange
on NT with HP OpenMail on Linux. :) It's not Free Software though.

Reefknot is an in-development calendaring framework, supported now by
e-smith (Skud went to work for them, asked if they liked the idea, and as if
they were going to knock it back):

http://reefknot.sourceforge.net/

I'm sure someone will develop and Exchange interface for it. Quite likely
someone as brilliant and nutty as Luke Leighton (ex-Samba hacker who has
talked about doing this for a while).

> For mail, though, exchange can speak IMAP, which is a standard.  Fetchmail
> can speak IMAP, and stuff the resulting messages into your local mail
> spool, from whence you can do what you like with them.

If you're happy with using Maildir, have a look at isync - by the author of
mutt.

http://www.isync.org/ (I think.)

> Alternatively, mail user agents (MUAs) that I know of that speak to IMAP
> servers directly include: netscape-communicator, mozilla, tkrat and pine.
> Mozilla (used to) has some bugs with IMAP, but it's getting there...

Plus mutt and Evolution. :)

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Dean Hamstead

Exchange can also talk pop and smtp.
Im using it now with moz ;)

Dean

Andrew Reilly wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:57:42PM +1100, Wylie Edwards wrote:
> 
>> anyone know of a good client that will allow access to that damn thing
>> called exchange and its schedules etc??  i doubt there will be but if 
>> anyone knows some alternatives would be much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Can't help with the schedules issue (but very interested if
> anyone else knows of such a thing.)
> 
> For mail, though, exchange can speak IMAP, which is a standard.
> Fetchmail can speak IMAP, and stuff the resulting messages into
> your local mail spool, from whence you can do what you like with
> them.
> 
> Alternatively, mail user agents (MUAs) that I know of that
> speak to IMAP servers directly include: netscape-communicator,
> mozilla, tkrat and pine.  Mozilla (used to) has some bugs with
> IMAP, but it's getting there...


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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Andrew Reilly said:
>Galeon and Konquerer seem to be shaping up to be that.  Haven't
>used Konq myself, but do keep an eye on Galeon.

I've been using galeon, I like it, but the dependency on (at least in
debian) having mozilla installed is a pain (in my fantasy utopia, i only
have one browser on my machine)

>Really, I doubt that it's the mailer/newsreader stuff that makes
>Mozilla slow.  It's that the entire UI (buttons, frames, panes
>and all) is implemented in DHTML, aka JavaScript...  Galeon
>replaces that crap with compiled GTK, and it's reasonably
>snappy.

Yeah, i'm well aware that it's not the extra bits making it slow, but it
makes it *big*.  Reimplementing the UI was a bad choice, imho.  mozilla
on my system has a footprint of 25% system RAM, and it's clunky.

Preaching to the converted, i know... I'm just going to go write my own
browser, it's the only way to get anything you want these days ;)

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Re: Konqueror/Mozilla (was Re: [SLUG] Email Programs)

2001-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Ian Tester said:
>When will the Debian package be updated?

Don't know, but this method worked for me (a bit messy, but it worked):

point old browser at
http://archives.progeny.com
follow the links to the mozilla debs
dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/web/  iirc
get mozilla-whatever.deb and browser-common-*.deb
go up, and into the libs directory
get libnspr-blah.deb

become root,  dpkg -i *.deb that you've just downloaded

It's more stable than any other browser i've played with in a while,
even if it is a big fat memory whore.  Low centre of gravity, I guess.

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RE: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Wylie Edwards

anyone know of a good client that will allow access to that damn thing
called exchange and its schedules etc??  i doubt there will be but if 
anyone knows some alternatives would be much appreciated.

thanks!!



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This one time, at band camp, Andrew Reilly said:
>Galeon and Konquerer seem to be shaping up to be that.  Haven't
>used Konq myself, but do keep an eye on Galeon.

I've been using galeon, I like it, but the dependency on (at least in
debian) having mozilla installed is a pain (in my fantasy utopia, i only
have one browser on my machine)

>Really, I doubt that it's the mailer/newsreader stuff that makes
>Mozilla slow.  It's that the entire UI (buttons, frames, panes
>and all) is implemented in DHTML, aka JavaScript...  Galeon
>replaces that crap with compiled GTK, and it's reasonably
>snappy.

Yeah, i'm well aware that it's not the extra bits making it slow, but it
makes it *big*.  Reimplementing the UI was a bad choice, imho.  mozilla
on my system has a footprint of 25% system RAM, and it's clunky.

Preaching to the converted, i know... I'm just going to go write my own
browser, it's the only way to get anything you want these days ;)

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Andrew Reilly

On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:57:42PM +1100, Wylie Edwards wrote:
> anyone know of a good client that will allow access to that damn thing
> called exchange and its schedules etc??  i doubt there will be but if 
> anyone knows some alternatives would be much appreciated.

Can't help with the schedules issue (but very interested if
anyone else knows of such a thing.)

For mail, though, exchange can speak IMAP, which is a standard.
Fetchmail can speak IMAP, and stuff the resulting messages into
your local mail spool, from whence you can do what you like with
them.

Alternatively, mail user agents (MUAs) that I know of that
speak to IMAP servers directly include: netscape-communicator,
mozilla, tkrat and pine.  Mozilla (used to) has some bugs with
IMAP, but it's getting there...

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Now, if I could get the MAILER without all the browser-
>crap overhead, I'd be interested

Damn, and all I want is BROWSER without all the mailer/newsreader/irc
crap overhead ;)

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Konqueror/Mozilla (was Re: [SLUG] Email Programs)

2001-02-21 Thread Ian Tester

On 21 Feb 2001, Alen Stanisic wrote:

>  I have been using Mozilla 0.7
> but it was just too slow for me as my machine is quite old.  So now I am
> looking for a new mail client and a web browser. (Planning to give
> Konquerer a go but not sure if it would be a problem running it on
> Gnome.  As I understand it is a KDE app)  

Konqueror runs fine for me under GNOME. Only two small problems for me
so far:

1. Shortly after starting it for the first time, some part of GNOME (the
panel?) pops up a window saying that some program isn't responding to the
"Save" (?) message and asking if I want to kill it. If I do kill "it",
nothing happens. Probably some little helper program or something hanging
around that GNOME doesn't like. weird.

2. I've upgraded to the latest 2.1 beta Konqueror from Debian unstable,
plus whatever other dependant libs and stuff it needed (kdelibs?). It now
seems to have problems showing graphics in pages. But if I do a quick
back, forward after it's completed loading, they then show. Where's the
KDE bug tracker?

Konqueror is very nice. I like it, unlike Mozilla. Mozilla has given me no
end of problems. The M18 package in debian is acceptable if you know how
to work around its problems. I once downloaded a nightly build and that
seemed to work a little better. I recently got the 0.8 release and it
royally SUCKED! It would load up my home page incorrectly and crash after
I hit reload a bunch of times trying to get it to render properly. I
happened to download the "talkback" binary so I was able to send off a
good half dozen bug reports with "I just tried to view my home
page" descriptions in the space of a half hour :)

Does anybody else have problems with the supplied Mozilla binaries?
Could my problems be due to Mozilla being compiled on (I guess) a RedHat 
box and the little incompatibilities between distros?
When will the Debian package be updated?

Grrr... I'm not happy with Mozilla.

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Re: Konqueror/Mozilla (was Re: [SLUG] Email Programs)

2001-02-21 Thread Thom May

> 
> Does anybody else have problems with the supplied Mozilla binaries?
> Could my problems be due to Mozilla being compiled on (I guess) a RedHat 
> box and the little incompatibilities between distros?
> When will the Debian package be updated?
Well, I have 0.7 mozilla packages from Ximian, and it works like a dream.
I've not started netscape in weeks.
stuff:
deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/1.4beta1/distributions/debian unstable
main
in your sources.list and grab mozzy.
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Re: Konqueror/Mozilla (was Re: [SLUG] Email Programs)

2001-02-21 Thread David Fisher


> 
> Does anybody else have problems with the supplied Mozilla binaries?
> Could my problems be due to Mozilla being compiled on (I guess) a RedHat 
> box and the little incompatibilities between distros?
> When will the Debian package be updated?
> 
> Grrr... I'm not happy with Mozilla.

I have just installed Mozilla 0.8 from the binaries on my Debian Woody 
(with a bit of Sid) machine and although it's early days yet it seems 
terrific so far.

If I run into problems I will post them but if you don't hear from me 
assume all is well.

The rest is silence..

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Dave Fitch

On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:29:22AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >Now, if I could get the MAILER without all the browser-
> >crap overhead, I'd be interested
> 
> Damn, and all I want is BROWSER without all the mailer/newsreader/irc
> crap overhead ;)

that's exactly what I've been wanting for ages, a nice stable,
lean, gui browser.  I thought (originally) mozilla was going
to be that when now all it seems to be is a rehash of netscape.

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Andrew Reilly

On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:29:22AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >Now, if I could get the MAILER without all the browser-
> >crap overhead, I'd be interested

You pretty much need a browser these days, though, so that you
can read the text/html mail that the spammers send...

(Well, at least the folks at my office (or perhaps MS) have
realised that the old "Use Word to edit mail", and therefore
have all mail arrive as Word documents, isn't such a good
idea...)  I haven't been seeing too many MS-TENF attachments
lately either.  Praise!

> Damn, and all I want is BROWSER without all the mailer/newsreader/irc
> crap overhead ;)

Galeon and Konquerer seem to be shaping up to be that.  Haven't
used Konq myself, but do keep an eye on Galeon.

Really, I doubt that it's the mailer/newsreader stuff that makes
Mozilla slow.  It's that the entire UI (buttons, frames, panes
and all) is implemented in DHTML, aka JavaScript...  Galeon
replaces that crap with compiled GTK, and it's reasonably
snappy.

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-21 Thread Jason Rennie

> that's exactly what I've been wanting for ages, a nice stable,
> lean, gui browser.  I thought (originally) mozilla was going
> to be that when now all it seems to be is a rehash of netscape.

You can install mozilla without all of that you know.

Also have you ever looked at opera ?

You could also ask the galeon guys for a windows port.

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-20 Thread Craige McWhirter

Alen, it appears that the only time you set the frequency of auto POP
d/l's is when you create the server process. Delete your exisiting one,
create a new one and during the process keep an eye out for "Automatic"
something or other. Tick it, and set the frequency.

Bit of a pain really, hope they fix that.

On 21 Feb 2001 18:03:47 +, Alen Stanisic wrote:

> 1. it crashes when I want to run Calendar.  I think it is to do with the
> interaction of Evolution and Ical.  (The way my installation was going I
> didn't expect too many things to work.)


I got my version from Debian (Sid/Unstable). Was your copy from a
package or from source?


> 2. and just a question if Craige or someone else managed to find where I
> could set the client to fetch mail periodically from the remote mail
> server so I don't have to keep clicking on 'Get Mail' button all the
> time.  

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-20 Thread Alen Stanisic

Hi all,

Just sharing my experience with Evolution 0.8.  Had a really hard time
installing it but finally got it going. Have only been using it for a
day.  It does support threading.  I am still learning how to use it and
hopefully this message is not in html.  I have been using Mozilla 0.7
but it was just too slow for me as my machine is quite old.  So now I am
looking for a new mail client and a web browser. (Planning to give
Konquerer a go but not sure if it would be a problem running it on
Gnome.  As I understand it is a KDE app)  

Anyway two problems I am having with Evolution 0.8 are: 

1. it crashes when I want to run Calendar.  I think it is to do with the
interaction of Evolution and Ical.  (The way my installation was going I
didn't expect too many things to work.)

2. and just a question if Craige or someone else managed to find where I
could set the client to fetch mail periodically from the remote mail
server so I don't have to keep clicking on 'Get Mail' button all the
time.  

Cheers,

Alen  


On 21 Feb 2001 16:55:12 +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote:
> John, one to play with now and keep an eye on for when it's really ready
> is Evolution. I've been using it the last couple of days and it's quite
> nice, looks just like Outlook 97 which will probably suite your master
> plan. I don't think it's quite ready for the chief yet (it crashed the
> last 4 times I tried to reply to this email - worked this time).
> Threading is good, subfolders are good, works under KDE2, well, in spite
> of ;) (it's a GNOME app).
> 
> Still, the most, *cough*, stable, *cough*, GUI threaded email reader
> I've used under Linux is Netscape/Mozilla. Hopefully Evolution will soon
> surpass that (I need it for work ppl!).
> 
> Check it out anyway, it's an apt-get away or at the Ximian (formerly
> Helix-Code) site somewhere.
> 
> http://www.helixcode.com/
> 
> On 16 Feb 2001 21:09:58 +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
> > This old chestnut is rearing its' ugly head again...
> > 
> > You will notice, from my headers, I'm using Eudora... YES, I admit it 
> > !!!  Under Win4Lin it actually works !!!
> > 
> > While I wait in vain for Qualcomm to get of their bums and produce a Linux 
> > version, does anyone know of a Linux emailer that will do the following;
> > 
> > 1. Handle sub-folders (i.e. I have all SLUG mail sorted by moonth under one 
> > SLUG folder, and seperate mail files within that)
> > 
> > 2. Handle THREADED discussions (so the current MS "Executive" email, for 
> > example, can all be tracked in one "group")
> > 
> > 3. Works under KDE2.
> > 
> > The threading option is more important than anything else, and I don't care 
> > if I have to get mty email into an SQL database to do it - I have HEAPS..
> > 
> > Jon
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-20 Thread Craige McWhirter

On 21 Feb 2001 16:55:56 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Now, if I could get the MAILER without all the browser-
> crap overhead, I'd be interested

Amen Brother! One of the things I dislike about Evolution is along a
similar line - it loads a calendar and contact systems as well.

> apt-get ??  One of those horrible debian-type 
> commands ??...:-)

;) 

One day Jon, one day, I'll have you run Debian as your main system. It
maybe when SuSE stops shipping an English version (RSN) but I'll drop a
lazy hundred on it happening eventually. Coming to the install fest?
I'll press up some monogrammed CD's for you ;)

After a few ales at the Install Fest bar, I'll have you with the "One of
Us, One of Us" hypno-chant ;)

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-20 Thread jon

> Still, the most, *cough*, stable, *cough*, GUI 
> threaded email reader I've used under Linux is 
> Netscape/Mozilla. Hopefully Evolution will soon
> surpass that (I need it for work ppl!).

Now, if I could get the MAILER without all the browser-
crap overhead, I'd be interested

> Check it out anyway, it's an apt-get away or at the 
> Ximian (formerly  Helix-Code) site somewhere.

apt-get ??  One of those horrible debian-type 
commands ??...:-)


>
> http://www.helixcode.com/
>
> On 16 Feb 2001 21:09:58 +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
> > This old chestnut is rearing its' ugly head again...
> >
> > You will notice, from my headers, I'm using 
Eudora... YES, I admit it
> > !!!  Under Win4Lin it actually works !!!
> >
> > While I wait in vain for Qualcomm to get of their 
bums and produce a
> Linux
> > version, does anyone know of a Linux emailer that 
will do the following;
> >
> > 1. Handle sub-folders (i.e. I have all SLUG mail 
sorted by moonth under
> one
> > SLUG folder, and seperate mail files within that)
> >
> > 2. Handle THREADED discussions (so the current 
MS "Executive" email, for
> > example, can all be tracked in one "group")
> >
> > 3. Works under KDE2.
> >
> > The threading option is more important than 
anything else, and I don't
> care
> > if I have to get mty email into an SQL database to 
do it - I have HEAPS..
> >
> > Jon
>
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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-20 Thread Craige McWhirter

John, one to play with now and keep an eye on for when it's really ready
is Evolution. I've been using it the last couple of days and it's quite
nice, looks just like Outlook 97 which will probably suite your master
plan. I don't think it's quite ready for the chief yet (it crashed the
last 4 times I tried to reply to this email - worked this time).
Threading is good, subfolders are good, works under KDE2, well, in spite
of ;) (it's a GNOME app).

Still, the most, *cough*, stable, *cough*, GUI threaded email reader
I've used under Linux is Netscape/Mozilla. Hopefully Evolution will soon
surpass that (I need it for work ppl!).

Check it out anyway, it's an apt-get away or at the Ximian (formerly
Helix-Code) site somewhere.

http://www.helixcode.com/

On 16 Feb 2001 21:09:58 +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
> This old chestnut is rearing its' ugly head again...
> 
> You will notice, from my headers, I'm using Eudora... YES, I admit it 
> !!!  Under Win4Lin it actually works !!!
> 
> While I wait in vain for Qualcomm to get of their bums and produce a Linux 
> version, does anyone know of a Linux emailer that will do the following;
> 
> 1. Handle sub-folders (i.e. I have all SLUG mail sorted by moonth under one 
> SLUG folder, and seperate mail files within that)
> 
> 2. Handle THREADED discussions (so the current MS "Executive" email, for 
> example, can all be tracked in one "group")
> 
> 3. Works under KDE2.
> 
> The threading option is more important than anything else, and I don't care 
> if I have to get mty email into an SQL database to do it - I have HEAPS..
> 
> Jon

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-16 Thread Jon Biddell

At 10:28 PM 16/02/01 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
>
> > Should have specified - GUI INTERFACE - yes, xMutt.
>
>Why? What's the advantage?

Fair question.

It's all part of the Master Plan(tm) to convert SWMBO away from Evilware..

Almost did it this morning, too... I have 2 x old HP Omnibooks, one with 
SuSE 7.0 and hers with Evilware. Made fwm95 the default window manager and 
swapped notebooks... Actually took her a few minutes to realise this and 
start hitting me...:-)


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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-16 Thread Jon Biddell

At 10:45 PM 16/02/01 +1100, David Kempe wrote:
>Whats so wrong with kmail?
>It does all the options you specify if you get the latest version. Has some
>very nice features as well.
>To turn on threading you have to go to one of the look and feel options. I
>use it when im booted into my unstable debian and it rocks pretty hard.

I'm using the version that came with SuSE - probably not the latest, so 
I'll check that out...



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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-16 Thread David Kempe

Whats so wrong with kmail?
It does all the options you specify if you get the latest version. Has some
very nice features as well.
To turn on threading you have to go to one of the look and feel options. I
use it when im booted into my unstable debian and it rocks pretty hard.

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-16 Thread Jeff Waugh



> Should have specified - GUI INTERFACE - yes, xMutt.

Why? What's the advantage?

I am *not* a CLI fascist, and I think the whole CLI == literary interface is
a steaming pile of Australian legislation, but I couldn't be faster than I
am with Mutt.

The only thing I really miss is fast reorganisation of emails. Feh. I don't
work in ways that would require that anymore. :)

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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-16 Thread Jon Biddell


>Works under everything.
>
>The answer? Mutt. Beautiful.
>
>Most of the options don't provide your primary requirement.
\
Should have specified - GUI INTERFACE - yes, xMutt.

I'll try it, but...:-(


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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-16 Thread Jeff Waugh



> This old chestnut is rearing its' ugly head again...

Jon... It's *always* the same answer!

> 1. Handle sub-folders (i.e. I have all SLUG mail sorted by moonth under one 
> SLUG folder, and seperate mail files within that)

Definitely. Maildir, mbox, MH, whatever.

> 2. Handle THREADED discussions (so the current MS "Executive" email, for 
> example, can all be tracked in one "group")

Beautifully, and with a caring eye towards Jamie Zawinski's threading guide.
(Which itself is based on a lot of experience!)

> 3. Works under KDE2.

Works under everything.

The answer? Mutt. Beautiful.

Most of the options don't provide your primary requirement.

- Jeff


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[SLUG] Email Programs

2001-02-16 Thread Jon Biddell

This old chestnut is rearing its' ugly head again...

You will notice, from my headers, I'm using Eudora... YES, I admit it 
!!!  Under Win4Lin it actually works !!!

While I wait in vain for Qualcomm to get of their bums and produce a Linux 
version, does anyone know of a Linux emailer that will do the following;

1. Handle sub-folders (i.e. I have all SLUG mail sorted by moonth under one 
SLUG folder, and seperate mail files within that)

2. Handle THREADED discussions (so the current MS "Executive" email, for 
example, can all be tracked in one "group")

3. Works under KDE2.

The threading option is more important than anything else, and I don't care 
if I have to get mty email into an SQL database to do it - I have HEAPS..

Jon


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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs - specifically, EUDORA

2000-07-15 Thread Anand Kumria

On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 05:42:50PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> In an attempt to convert SHMBO from EvilWare to Linux
> for the majority of computing tasks, I have hit a small
> snag.

Don't know that TLA

> My snag is email - SHMBO likes EUDORA, and I must admit
> I do as well. Yes, there's pine, elm, mutt, and so
> forth, and I guess I *could* run Eudora under WINE or
> VMWARE (but not on this box - P233MMX/96Mb RAM).

Take a look at either exmh or balsa.

Anand


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Re: [SLUG] Email Programs - specifically, EUDORA

2000-07-15 Thread Alexander Else

At 17:42 15/07/2000 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Does anyone know of an Eudora-equivalent or, preferably,
>a Linux version of Eudora (yes, I have asked Qualcomm,
>but no reply as yet).

Eudora and SecureCrt are the two reasons i've mostly using windows at home 
these days on my main machine.  The closest I've found to Eudora in terms 
of look and feel is kmail.  I remember stopping using it and i can't 
remember why, i think i might have had problems with mailbox corruption and 
the program hanging when it was opened until the offending mailbox was removed.

Alexander.



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[SLUG] Email Programs - specifically, EUDORA

2000-07-15 Thread jon

Folks,

In an attempt to convert SHMBO from EvilWare to Linux
for the majority of computing tasks, I have hit a small
snag.

Office-type applications are a non-issue, with my copy
of ApplixWare 5.0 arriving shortly. Databases can be
read from an EvilWare box via ODBC, and most, if not
all, documents and spreadsheets can be successfully read
or converted.

My snag is email - SHMBO likes EUDORA, and I must admit
I do as well. Yes, there's pine, elm, mutt, and so
forth, and I guess I *could* run Eudora under WINE or
VMWARE (but not on this box - P233MMX/96Mb RAM).

Does anyone know of an Eudora-equivalent or, preferably,
a Linux version of Eudora (yes, I have asked Qualcomm,
but no reply as yet).

(On holidays, sorting out a garage full of computers...)

Jon


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