Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-10-01 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 07:40, David wrote:
> 
> 

> 
> Direct deposit is an excellent way of managing payments. I do it all the
> time in my business for payments and receipts and it's the most hassle
> free way of doing things, with the least fees. I assume SLUG has a bank
> account?

It is an excellent device - but note that it works only on account
numbers even though there is a slot for the payee's name. The Banking
Ombudsman, now the "Banking and Financial Services Ombudsman" has
recently considered this to be one of the major problems that they have
had to deal with:see Bulletin 35 at http://www.abio.org.au

Use it, but double check the numbers.

Cheers,
Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > On 29 Sep 2003, Bruce Badger wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:23, DaZZa wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Jan Schmidt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Details on becoming a financial member are available here:
> > > > > http://www.slug.org.au/membership.html
> > > >
> > > > Dare I ask if any progress has been made on accepting membership remotely?
> > > >
> > > > I am unable to get to SLUG meetings - my work pattern is too varied to
> > > > allow me the time - and while I'm perfectly willing to become a financial
> > > > member again, there seems to be (still) no provision for anything other
> > > > than paying by attending a meeting.
> > >
> > > OpenSkills is in the process of setting up to accept payments through
> > > PayMate.  This is a low hassle, low outlay but high % per transaction
> > > charge service. It will add ~ a couple of dollars onto a SLUG
> > > membership.
> > >
> > > Payments are made by completing a form on the PayMates site pecifying
> > > o a target email account (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > > o credit card details
> > > o amount to pay
> > >
> > > The form is here: https://www.paymate.com.au/PayMate/PaymateExpress
> > >
> > > Both parties get confirmation email, and the money (less fees) is put in
> > > the target bank account.
> > >
> > > I'd be happy to keep the SLUG committee up to date with our initial
> > > experience with PayMate.  Also, I'd be *very* interested in hearing
> > > about any alternatives (except PayPal).
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >   Bruce
> > >
> >
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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-10-01 Thread David


On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Grant Parnell wrote:

> EverythingLinux used to accept SLUG memberships but had to cease doing so
> back in July 2000 as the committee could not supply an ABN. Has this
> changed? If so perhaps it's time to revisit the option. Of course there's
> always Direct Deposits if the account details could be made public. Who
> knows, people might make donations too :-)


Direct deposit is an excellent way of managing payments. I do it all the
time in my business for payments and receipts and it's the most hassle
free way of doing things, with the least fees. I assume SLUG has a bank
account?




>
> On 29 Sep 2003, Bruce Badger wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:23, DaZZa wrote:
> > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Jan Schmidt wrote:
> > >
> > > > Details on becoming a financial member are available here:
> > > > http://www.slug.org.au/membership.html
> > >
> > > Dare I ask if any progress has been made on accepting membership remotely?
> > >
> > > I am unable to get to SLUG meetings - my work pattern is too varied to
> > > allow me the time - and while I'm perfectly willing to become a financial
> > > member again, there seems to be (still) no provision for anything other
> > > than paying by attending a meeting.
> >
> > OpenSkills is in the process of setting up to accept payments through
> > PayMate.  This is a low hassle, low outlay but high % per transaction
> > charge service. It will add ~ a couple of dollars onto a SLUG
> > membership.
> >
> > Payments are made by completing a form on the PayMates site pecifying
> > o a target email account (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > o credit card details
> > o amount to pay
> >
> > The form is here: https://www.paymate.com.au/PayMate/PaymateExpress
> >
> > Both parties get confirmation email, and the money (less fees) is put in
> > the target bank account.
> >
> > I'd be happy to keep the SLUG committee up to date with our initial
> > experience with PayMate.  Also, I'd be *very* interested in hearing
> > about any alternatives (except PayPal).
> >
> > All the best,
> > Bruce
> >
>
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> grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today!
> Do people actually read these things?
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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-10-01 Thread Grant Parnell
EverythingLinux used to accept SLUG memberships but had to cease doing so
back in July 2000 as the committee could not supply an ABN. Has this
changed? If so perhaps it's time to revisit the option. Of course there's 
always Direct Deposits if the account details could be made public. Who 
knows, people might make donations too :-)

On 29 Sep 2003, Bruce Badger wrote:

> On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:23, DaZZa wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Jan Schmidt wrote:
> > 
> > > Details on becoming a financial member are available here:
> > > http://www.slug.org.au/membership.html
> > 
> > Dare I ask if any progress has been made on accepting membership remotely?
> > 
> > I am unable to get to SLUG meetings - my work pattern is too varied to
> > allow me the time - and while I'm perfectly willing to become a financial
> > member again, there seems to be (still) no provision for anything other
> > than paying by attending a meeting.
> 
> OpenSkills is in the process of setting up to accept payments through
> PayMate.  This is a low hassle, low outlay but high % per transaction
> charge service. It will add ~ a couple of dollars onto a SLUG
> membership.
> 
> Payments are made by completing a form on the PayMates site pecifying
> o a target email account (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> o credit card details
> o amount to pay
> 
> The form is here: https://www.paymate.com.au/PayMate/PaymateExpress
> 
> Both parties get confirmation email, and the money (less fees) is put in
> the target bank account.
> 
> I'd be happy to keep the SLUG committee up to date with our initial
> experience with PayMate.  Also, I'd be *very* interested in hearing
> about any alternatives (except PayPal).
> 
> All the best,
>   Bruce 
> 

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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Lake
Dave Airlie wrote:

>>http://www.paypalsucks.com/
>>
>>I have had no experience with paypal but given sites such as these I
>>would be wary. I have used kagi (something like that) to pay for some
>>sofware last year and there are many other alternatives to paypal which
>>dont seem to have to anti-web sites.
> 
> 
> this is a very false logic.. one I wouldn't ever trust.. the reason paypal
> as an anti-paypal site is because paypal is the most popular and most
> widely used, 

just like Windows gets more virusses as its just more widely used than 
Linux :-)

> and of course it has issues, just because one of the others
> hasn't got an anti-web site may be more to do with underuse and
> non-discovery of issues than anything else..

Just like Linux :-)
and Del replied

> Not wanting to start another flamewar but:
> (a) don't believe everything you read on the internet (*).

I didnt believe, I said I would be wary. I would only believe it if I 
saw a report like that on the News like C :-)

> (b) searching through historical archives you will find
> that this site was set up by a Paypal competitor.  Caveat
> emptor.
a reference ?

You might be right too. Good to see that we have some scepticism in SLUG :-)

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-09-28 Thread Voytek
** Reply to note from Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 29 Sep 2003 13:44:03 +1000


> I'd be happy to keep the SLUG committee up to date with our initial 
> experience with PayMate.  Also, I'd be *very* interested in hearing 
> about any alternatives (except PayPal). 

Bruce,

as I'd be interested hearing your feedback, I hope you can post here.

tia,



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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-09-28 Thread Del
Michael Lake wrote:
Benno wrote:

What is wrong with PayPal? I've used this successfully for paying
money before. (Though not for accepting money.)


http://www.paypalsucks.com/
Not wanting to start another flamewar but:

(a) don't believe everything you read on the internet (*).

(b) searching through historical archives you will find
that this site was set up by a Paypal competitor.  Caveat
emptor.
(*) if you do, then try this site:

http://michael.lake.isgay.com/

... or perhaps ...

http://the.slug.committee.isgay.com/

... or perhaps ...

http://any.name.you.choose.isgay.com/

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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-09-28 Thread Dave Airlie
> http://www.paypalsucks.com/
>
> I have had no experience with paypal but given sites such as these I
> would be wary. I have used kagi (something like that) to pay for some
> sofware last year and there are many other alternatives to paypal which
> dont seem to have to anti-web sites.

this is a very false logic.. one I wouldn't ever trust.. the reason paypal
as an anti-paypal site is because paypal is the most popular and most
widely used, and of course it has issues, just because one of the others
hasn't got an anti-web site may be more to do with underuse and
non-discovery of issues than anything else..

it's like saying the FTP daemon I just write 10seconds agao is more secure
than any other FTP daemon out there, because it has no reported security
holes...

Dave.

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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Lake
Benno wrote:
> What is wrong with PayPal? I've used this successfully for paying
> money before. (Though not for accepting money.)

http://www.paypalsucks.com/

I have had no experience with paypal but given sites such as these I 
would be wary. I have used kagi (something like that) to pay for some 
sofware last year and there are many other alternatives to paypal which 
dont seem to have to anti-web sites.

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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-09-28 Thread Benno
On Mon Sep 29, 2003 at 13:44:03 +1000, Bruce Badger wrote:
>On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:23, DaZZa wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Jan Schmidt wrote:
>> 
>> > Details on becoming a financial member are available here:
>> > http://www.slug.org.au/membership.html
>> 
>> Dare I ask if any progress has been made on accepting membership remotely?
>> 
>> I am unable to get to SLUG meetings - my work pattern is too varied to
>> allow me the time - and while I'm perfectly willing to become a financial
>> member again, there seems to be (still) no provision for anything other
>> than paying by attending a meeting.
>
>OpenSkills is in the process of setting up to accept payments through
>PayMate.  This is a low hassle, low outlay but high % per transaction
>charge service. It will add ~ a couple of dollars onto a SLUG
>membership.
>
>Payments are made by completing a form on the PayMates site pecifying
>o a target email account (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>o credit card details
>o amount to pay
>
>The form is here: https://www.paymate.com.au/PayMate/PaymateExpress
>
>Both parties get confirmation email, and the money (less fees) is put in
>the target bank account.
>
>I'd be happy to keep the SLUG committee up to date with our initial
>experience with PayMate.  Also, I'd be *very* interested in hearing
>about any alternatives (except PayPal).

What is wrong with PayPal? I've used this successfully for paying
money before. (Though not for accepting money.)

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Re: [SLUG] Financial Membership

2003-09-28 Thread Bruce Badger
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:23, DaZZa wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Jan Schmidt wrote:
> 
> > Details on becoming a financial member are available here:
> > http://www.slug.org.au/membership.html
> 
> Dare I ask if any progress has been made on accepting membership remotely?
> 
> I am unable to get to SLUG meetings - my work pattern is too varied to
> allow me the time - and while I'm perfectly willing to become a financial
> member again, there seems to be (still) no provision for anything other
> than paying by attending a meeting.

OpenSkills is in the process of setting up to accept payments through
PayMate.  This is a low hassle, low outlay but high % per transaction
charge service. It will add ~ a couple of dollars onto a SLUG
membership.

Payments are made by completing a form on the PayMates site pecifying
o a target email account (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED])
o credit card details
o amount to pay

The form is here: https://www.paymate.com.au/PayMate/PaymateExpress

Both parties get confirmation email, and the money (less fees) is put in
the target bank account.

I'd be happy to keep the SLUG committee up to date with our initial
experience with PayMate.  Also, I'd be *very* interested in hearing
about any alternatives (except PayPal).

All the best,
Bruce 
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