[SLUG] Graphic tablet

2004-11-14 Thread Graham Smith
Someone was having problems with defining the screen size for use with a 
tablet. I just found this information (SuSE 9.2) which maybe of use.
/usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.3/Documentation/input/input.txt

  CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_[XY] in the kernel configuration are
the size of your screen (in pixels) in XFree86. This is needed if you
want to use your digitizer in X, because its movement is sent to X
via a virtual PS/2 mouse and thus needs to be scaled
accordingly. These values won't be used if you use a mouse only.

Also in the Kernel parameters 
mousedev.xres=  [MOUSE] Horizontal screen resolution, used for devices
reporting absolute coordinates, such as tablets
mousedev.yres=  [MOUSE] Vertical screen resolution, used for devices
reporting absolute coordinates, such as tablets

I suggest you do a search through the kernel documentation to see if there are 
any further details on tablet related configuration.

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-11-01 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Matt,
As you probably saw in my last post, I'm still trying to get it work 
better. It's still only matching a 2 area to the whole of the screen. 
I've got some more 'figuring' before I annoy everyone with my 
post-failure requests :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31:53AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux 
recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up.

What did you do to try and use it?  I discovered a wacom ultrapad
serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out.
Wacom say they supply the developers at linuxwacom.sourceforge.net
hardware and info.
Matt


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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet

2004-10-18 Thread O Plameras
Visser, Martin wrote:
Of course I have found most of my *specific* answers at
http://acecad.sourceforge.net/README . But it stills doesn't help me
with the *generic* issue of mapping physical device, how they are seen
through facilities such as dmesg and /var/log/messages, and even
usbview, and how one *knows* which /dev/device to specify.
 

Dmesg obtains info from kernel ring buffer. Kernel ring buffer gets updated
each time the kernel discovers hardware and/or driver(software or module).
As to how kernel discovers hardware and updates kernel ring buffer is a
black art.
This might be done by reading from specific hardware address
and figuring out the device from any data read. This might be done by
writing some patterns into specific hardware addresses, and see what
happens.
Some, kernel components are software-only. For example, TCP/IP or
File Systems.
Once these kernel components are loaded, info is written to the
kernel ring buffer that can be displayed using dmesg.
Some tools that one may use to load and unload modules:
insmod
modprobe
rmmod
depmod
Also check /etc/modprobe.conf.
Regarding, /var/log/messages check:
# man syslog.conf

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet

2004-10-17 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Okay. Sorry for the delay... It wasn't caused by the XF86Config
suggestions :))


Now, I have two suggestions going simultaneously (for which I'm very
grateful) - one from Darren and one from James and Ben.

1. James suggestion didn't fskc my X... everything SEEMS okay and it
sems to start fine. The pen is the same... no different.

2. Darren... 

Your suggestion had been:



# File generated by XFdrake.
 #
**
 # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of 
 # this file. 
 #**
 Section Files
 # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated
together) 
 # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server
independent of   
 # the X server to render fonts.
 FontPath unix/:-1
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerFlags 
 #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
 #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail 
 # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
EndSection
 
 Section Module
 Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
 Load v4l # Video for Linux   
 Load extmod
 Load type1
 Load freetype
 Load glx # 3D layer
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Keyboard1
 Driver Keyboard
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout en_US
 Option XkbOptions 
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse1
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2
 Option Device /dev/mouse
 Option ZAxisMapping 6 7
 EndSection
 
 #
 # The Tablet stuff, here we define what the tablet is
 # what drives it and some configuration options.
 # Here is where you will fiddle a bit to get the
 # settings correct.
 #
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  stylus
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  stylus
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorstylus
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  cursor
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  cursor
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorpuck
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  eraser
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  eraser
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorstylus
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 #
 # End os Tablet stuff
 #
 
 Section Monitor
 Identifier monitor1
 VendorName Plug'n Play
 ModelName Compaq V70 Color Monitor
 HorizSync 30-69
 VertRefresh 50-150
 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
 # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494
563 -hsync -vsync
 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
 # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595
630
 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590
616
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
 Identifier device1
 VendorName ATI
 BoardName ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC
 #Driver nv
 Option DPMS
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
 Identifier screen1
 Device device1
 Monitor monitor1
 DefaultColorDepth 24
 Subsection Display
 Depth 8
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth 15
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth 16
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier layout1
 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
 
 # Now enable the tablet stuff on the server
 InputDevice stylus AlwaysCore
 InputDevice cursor AlwaysCore
 InputDevice eraser AlwaysCore
 # end tablet stuff
 
 Screen screen1
 EndSection




X wouldn't start. I copied the XF86 logs



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FW: [SLUG] Graphic tablet ADDENDUM TO LAST POST

2004-10-17 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Duh, my big...

There was NO XF86Config file when I looked (per James's suggestion about
deleting it and putting a soft link to XF86Config-4 for any other
program). So, the changes I made per James's suggestion were merely to
alter the XF86Config-4 file and boot X on that.

Sorry for the cross posts and confusion.



-Original Message-
From: Elliott-Brennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2004 9:57 PM
To: 'James Gregory'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Ben de Luca';
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet


Okay. Sorry for the delay... It wasn't caused by the XF86Config
suggestions :))


Now, I have two suggestions going simultaneously (for which I'm very
grateful) - one from Darren and one from James and Ben.

1. James suggestion didn't fskc my X... everything SEEMS okay and it
sems to start fine. The pen is the same... no different.

2. Darren... 

Your suggestion had been:



# File generated by XFdrake.
 #
**
 # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of 
 # this file. 
 #**
 Section Files
 # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated
together) 
 # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server
independent of   
 # the X server to render fonts.
 FontPath unix/:-1
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerFlags 
 #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
 #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail 
 # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
EndSection
 
 Section Module
 Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
 Load v4l # Video for Linux   
 Load extmod
 Load type1
 Load freetype
 Load glx # 3D layer
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Keyboard1
 Driver Keyboard
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout en_US
 Option XkbOptions 
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse1
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2
 Option Device /dev/mouse
 Option ZAxisMapping 6 7
 EndSection
 
 #
 # The Tablet stuff, here we define what the tablet is
 # what drives it and some configuration options.
 # Here is where you will fiddle a bit to get the
 # settings correct.
 #
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  stylus
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  stylus
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorstylus
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  cursor
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  cursor
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorpuck
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  eraser
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  eraser
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorstylus
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 #
 # End os Tablet stuff
 #
 
 Section Monitor
 Identifier monitor1
 VendorName Plug'n Play
 ModelName Compaq V70 Color Monitor
 HorizSync 30-69
 VertRefresh 50-150
 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
 # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494
563 -hsync -vsync
 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
 # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595
630
 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590
616
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
 Identifier device1
 VendorName ATI
 BoardName ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC
 #Driver nv
 Option DPMS
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
 Identifier screen1
 Device device1
 Monitor monitor1
 DefaultColorDepth 24
 Subsection Display
 Depth 8
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth 15
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth 16
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier layout1
 InputDevice

RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet

2004-10-17 Thread Visser, Martin
I didn't catch the original messages, but how does one determine
definitively which device to use for USB peripherals? I have been
delaying trying out my Acecad Flair graphics tablet until I managed to
get a Xfree with it all built in. (I had tried some earlier patches that
included the acecad driver but never seem to be able get them to
build. Anyways, it seems that my SuSe 9.1 pro has the acecad driver
built in. (It has /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/acecad_drv.o at least).

Now I know that there is supposed to a serial version of the tablet but
mine, as most are I expect is USB. The log from /var/log/messages shows
it is there :-

Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed,
port 3 disabled
Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using
address 4
Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: usb 1-1: Product: USB Graphics Tablet
Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: ACECAD

Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new
driver hi
ddev
Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Device [ACECAD
USB Graph
ics Tablet ] on usb-:02:0e.0-1
Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new
driver hi
d
Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB
HID core
Driver

But it really isn't clear what device I should us in XFree86 is
/dev/usbmousenn or /dev/usb/hiddevnn or what? (In fact based on past
experience with USB mice it seems that a choice of a number of devices
may work.)

RANTMaybe it is me but it all seems pretty opaque unfortunately. Isn't
something like LSB being built for /dev? My top level /dev has 7437
entries which I think is just slightly over the top/RANT 

Anyone have a clear cluestick as to how this should definitively we
worked out. (BTW SuSe autodetects the hardware but when I allow it to
run Yast to presumably configure, it manages to crash the whole X
session)


Martin Visser ,CISSP
Network and Security Consultant 
Consulting  Integration
Technology Solutions Group - HP Services

3 Richardson Place 
North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia 

Phone: +61-2-9022-1670
Mobile: +61-411-254-513
Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 
E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elliott-Brennan
 Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2004 9:57 PM
 To: 'James Gregory'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ben de Luca'; 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet
 
 Okay. Sorry for the delay... It wasn't caused by the 
 XF86Config suggestions :))
 
 
 Now, I have two suggestions going simultaneously (for which I'm very
 grateful) - one from Darren and one from James and Ben.
 
 1. James suggestion didn't fskc my X... everything SEEMS okay 
 and it sems to start fine. The pen is the same... no 
 different.
 
 2. Darren... 
 
 Your suggestion had been:
 
 
 
 # File generated by XFdrake.
  #
 **
  # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the 
 format of  # this file. 
  
 #*
 *
  Section Files
  # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated
 together) 
  # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server
 independent of   
  # the X server to render fonts.
  FontPath unix/:-1
  EndSection
  
  Section ServerFlags 
  #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
  #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution 
 switching) AllowMouseOpenFail 
  # allows the server to start up even if the mouse 
 doesn't work EndSection
  
  Section Module
  Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
  Load v4l # Video for Linux   
  Load extmod
  Load type1
  Load freetype
  Load glx # 3D layer
  EndSection
  
  Section InputDevice
  Identifier Keyboard1
  Driver Keyboard
  Option XkbModel pc105
  Option XkbLayout en_US
  Option XkbOptions 
  EndSection
  
  Section InputDevice
  Identifier Mouse1
  Driver mouse
  Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2
  Option Device /dev/mouse
  Option ZAxisMapping 6 7
  EndSection
  
  #
  # The Tablet stuff, here we define what the tablet is  # 
 what drives it and some configuration options.
  # Here is where you will fiddle a bit to get the  # settings correct.
  #
  Section InputDevice
   Identifier  stylus
   Driver  aiptek
   Option  Device/dev/input/event0
   Option  Type  stylus
   Option  Mode  absolute
   Option  Cursorstylus
   Option  USB   on
   Option  KeepShape on
   Option  debuglevel20
  EndSection
  
  Section

RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet

2004-10-17 Thread Visser, Martin
Of course I have found most of my *specific* answers at
http://acecad.sourceforge.net/README . But it stills doesn't help me
with the *generic* issue of mapping physical device, how they are seen
through facilities such as dmesg and /var/log/messages, and even
usbview, and how one *knows* which /dev/device to specify.

Martin Visser ,CISSP
Network and Security Consultant 
Consulting  Integration
Technology Solutions Group - HP Services

3 Richardson Place 
North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia 

Phone: +61-2-9022-1670
Mobile: +61-411-254-513
Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 
E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Visser, Martin
 Sent: Monday, 18 October 2004 2:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet
 
 I didn't catch the original messages, but how does one 
 determine definitively which device to use for USB 
 peripherals? I have been delaying trying out my Acecad Flair 
 graphics tablet until I managed to get a Xfree with it all 
 built in. (I had tried some earlier patches that included the 
 acecad driver but never seem to be able get them to build. 
 Anyways, it seems that my SuSe 9.1 pro has the acecad driver 
 built in. (It has /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/acecad_drv.o at least).
 
 Now I know that there is supposed to a serial version of the 
 tablet but mine, as most are I expect is USB. The log from 
 /var/log/messages shows it is there :-
 
 Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: connect-debounce 
 failed, port 3 disabled Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: usb 
 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b 
 kernel: usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using address 4 Oct 
 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: usb 1-1: Product: USB Graphics 
 Tablet Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: ACECAD
 
 Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: drivers/usb/core/usb.c: 
 registered new driver hi ddev Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: 
 hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Device [ACECAD USB Graph ics Tablet ] 
 on usb-:02:0e.0-1 Oct 16 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: 
 drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hi d Oct 16 
 15:59:03 mau019b kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: 
 v2.0:USB HID core Driver
 
 But it really isn't clear what device I should us in XFree86 
 is /dev/usbmousenn or /dev/usb/hiddevnn or what? (In fact 
 based on past experience with USB mice it seems that a choice 
 of a number of devices may work.)
 
 RANTMaybe it is me but it all seems pretty opaque 
 unfortunately. Isn't something like LSB being built for /dev? 
 My top level /dev has 7437 entries which I think is just 
 slightly over the top/RANT 
 
 Anyone have a clear cluestick as to how this should 
 definitively we worked out. (BTW SuSe autodetects the 
 hardware but when I allow it to run Yast to presumably 
 configure, it manages to crash the whole X
 session)
 
 
 Martin Visser ,CISSP
 Network and Security Consultant
 Consulting  Integration
 Technology Solutions Group - HP Services
 
 3 Richardson Place
 North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia 
 
 Phone: +61-2-9022-1670
 Mobile: +61-411-254-513
 Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 
 E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com
  
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elliott-Brennan
  Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2004 9:57 PM
  To: 'James Gregory'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ben de Luca'; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet
  
  Okay. Sorry for the delay... It wasn't caused by the XF86Config 
  suggestions :))
  
  
  Now, I have two suggestions going simultaneously (for which I'm very
  grateful) - one from Darren and one from James and Ben.
  
  1. James suggestion didn't fskc my X... everything SEEMS 
 okay and it 
  sems to start fine. The pen is the same... no different.
  
  2. Darren... 
  
  Your suggestion had been:
  
  
  
  # File generated by XFdrake.
   #
  
 **
   # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the 
 format of  # 
  this file.
   
  #*
  *
   Section Files
   # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated
  together) 
   # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server
  independent of   
   # the X server to render fonts.
   FontPath unix/:-1
   EndSection
   
   Section ServerFlags 
   #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
   #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution
  switching) AllowMouseOpenFail 
   # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work 
  EndSection
   
   Section Module
   Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
   Load v4l # Video for Linux   
   Load extmod
   Load type1
   Load freetype
   Load glx # 3D layer
   EndSection
   
   Section InputDevice
   Identifier

RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-09 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Title: Message



Hi Ben,

Sorry for the off group post. I got the tablet for a present about 18 
months ago (my wife bought if for me). I think it was less than $100, but if not 
it wasn't much more (I know that I'd said I DIDN'T want a Wacom as they were a 
lot more expensive :))) - more fool me.

It's about 6" by 5"

14.93cm by 11.12cm (I just measured it).

I think it was from Dick Smiths but I just had a quick look and can't 
find it. It's calleda Dolphin Graphix.

Maybe I'll be in the market for a second-hand Wacom if this bugger 
doesn't work. If it does, I'll be happy to run the whole process past you - I'll 
be posting it all to SLUG anyway, as I go, and on some other sites so other 
people can see what's worked (or not).

Thanks for your suggestion. I'm going to go with O Plamera at the moment 
as he seems to have one working,though I'll certainly be keeping what 
you've said in mind. From the little I know about this stuff, it seems like this 
is what's needed - or something like it - and if what OP suggests doesn't work, 
I'll certainly be giving it a go. Where do you think the entry lines you've 
suggested should go? (I've read your suggestion - I have a xfree86-4 config file 
??)

My mouse is a ps/2, so there shouldn't be any conflict. 

This is what I got after 


modprobe aiptek (as 
root)
lsmod (as root) 
reads:

Module 
Size 
Used by
aiptek 
5152 
0

Usbcore 
99132 
9 usbmouse, 
aiptek, hid, uhci-hcd

Thanks for you help,

 Patrick


  
  -Original Message-From: Ben de Luca 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 8:20 
  AMTo: elliott-brennanCc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver 
  ? need help understanding :)Quickly looking through the 
  mailing list archive on the site you mentioned I wonder if you need to alter 
  your xorg/Xfree config to look some thing likeSection 
  "ServerLayout"Identifier "single head configuration"Screen 0 "Screen0" 
  0 0InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"InputDevice "Keyboard0" 
  "CoreKeyboard"InputDevice "stylus" "AlwaysCore"EndSectionSection 
  "InputDevice"Identifier "stylus"Driver "aiptek"Option "Device" 
  "/dev/input/event0"Option "Type" "stylus"Option "Mode" 
  "Absolute"Option "Cursor" "stylus"Option "USB" "on"Option 
  "KeepShape" "on"Option "AlwaysCore" "on"EndSectionIf you do getting 
  working, I think it might make a good alternative to the wacoms that I buy at 
  work, what size/cost was it?bdOn 04/10/2004, at 
  10:13 PM, elliott-brennan wrote:
  Hi,I've been trying to configure a graphic tablet in 
Linux (as those who've seen my previous posts will know).I'm 95% 
there but need some help understanding some material I've found. 
At:http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/I've found some 
information, but "I don't quite understand what they're suggesting to do" 
:(Mandrake 10.0 official, Kernel 2.6 (no changes - I wouldn't know 
how) reads this as a USB device (which it is) and I can do everything I can 
in the 'other O/S' except... the tablet area needs to be read as the same 
size as the monitor screen (called 'absolute' in somethings I've read), 
rather than reading it like a mouse. As I said, everything else works, which 
is great, but if I move the mouse 2", it moves across the entire viewable 
area of the screen!Any help/suggestions/referrals most 
appreciated.Patrick-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group 
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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need helpunderstanding:)

2004-10-09 Thread Elliott-Brennan
James,

Thanks. I'll look at this. 

Umhh - how do I find 'man aiptek'

Thank god I don't need to rebuild the kernel - everytime I see something
that mentions this, I think it should come with a warning don't try
this at home or This was performed under strict professional
supervision :) I can't even begin to understand any of it - though if
there's a site that has a newb'ish language explanation, I'd be
fascinated.

Also, Ben earlier suggested something like:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier single head configuration
Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
InputDevice Mouse0 CorePointer
InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard
InputDevice stylus AlwaysCore
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier stylus
Driver aiptek
Option Device /dev/input/event0
Option Type stylus
Option Mode Absolute
Option Cursor stylus
Option USB on
Option KeepShape on
Option AlwaysCore on
EndSection


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On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 10:35 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:

Just btw, rebuilding the kernel here is unnecessary. The Mandrake kernel
ships with the aiptek module.

 modprobe aiptek (as root)
 
 lsmod (as root) reads:
 
 
 ModuleSizeUsed by
 aiptek51520

The 'used by' column is how many things are using the driver. It says
'0', so there's an additional step there. Once there's something talking
to the driver, that number will increase.

So, if you look at man aiptek it will give you details of some stuff
you'll need to add to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Then it should work. I
suspect that's the missing piece of the puzzle here. The aiptek X
drivers appear to ship with Mandrake as well.

Keep a copy of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file so you've got a way to
get things running again if you break it.

HTH,

James.

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need helpunderstanding:)

2004-10-09 Thread Graham Smith

This may be of some use to you.
http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue7/m7tablett1.html

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-09 Thread Elliott-Brennan

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Now, if any of that makes sense :)))

Thanks for the help. The more reading I've done, the more reading I've
done! LOL 

Damn, the web is big place!!! :)


Patrick




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On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:26:21PM +1000, elliott-brennan wrote:
 I could quite likely be putting it in the wrong place
 
 Should I post the two parts (my XF86Config-4 file and your 
 suggestion)?

That's a good idea. We can probably give you a config file to drop in
that should work. Then, if it doesn't, it'd be awesome to see the log
files; then we can diagnose the fault.

It'll be great.

James.

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-09 Thread Darren Williams
Hi Elliott-Brennan

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004, Elliott-Brennan wrote:

 Okay guys, here's the whole thing:
 
 Here's the XF86Config-4 file details:
 (Do you also need the XF86 config file too, or just -4?)
 
 Below that is something that I'd found in a file online, but I'm not
 sure how useful it is.
 
 Below that again is the suggestion from Ben.
 
 -
 
 # File generated by XFdrake.
 
 # **
 # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of #
 this file. #
 **
 
 Section Files
 # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated
 together)
 # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server
 independent of
 # the X server to render fonts.
 FontPath unix/:-1
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerFlags
 #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
 #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching)
 AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
 doesn't work EndSection
 
 Section Module
 Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
 Load v4l # Video for Linux
 Load extmod
 Load type1
 Load freetype
 Load glx # 3D layer
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Keyboard1
 Driver Keyboard
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout en_US
 Option XkbOptions 
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse1
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2
 Option Device /dev/mouse
 Option ZAxisMapping 6 7
 EndSection
 
 Section Monitor
 Identifier monitor1
 VendorName Plug'n Play
 ModelName Compaq V70 Color Monitor
 HorizSync 30-69
 VertRefresh 50-150
 
 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
 # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494
 563 -hsync -vsync
 
 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
 # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595
 630
 
 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590
 616
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
 Identifier device1
 VendorName ATI
 BoardName ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC
 Driver ati
 Option DPMS
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
 Identifier screen1
 Device device1
 Monitor monitor1
 DefaultColorDepth 24
 
 Subsection Display
 Depth 8
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 
 Subsection Display
 Depth 15
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 
 Subsection Display
 Depth 16
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 
 Subsection Display
 Depth 24
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier layout1
 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
 Screen screen1
 EndSection
 
 --
 
 
 
 *Extra bit that I found on line*
 
 --
 +Section InputDevice
 + Identifier  stylus
 + Driver  aiptek
 + Option  Device/dev/input/event0
 + Option  Type  stylus
 + Option  Mode  absolute
 + Option  Cursorstylus
 + Option  USB   on
 + Option  KeepShape on
 + Option  debuglevel20
 +EndSection
 +
 +Section InputDevice
 + Identifier  cursor
 + Driver  aiptek
 + Option  Device/dev/input/event0
 + Option  Type  cursor
 + Option  Mode  absolute
 + Option  Cursorpuck
 + Option  USB   on
 + Option  KeepShape on
 + Option  debuglevel20
 +EndSection
 +
 +Section InputDevice
 + Identifier  eraser
 + Driver  aiptek
 + Option  Device/dev/input/event0
 + Option  Type  eraser
 + Option  Mode  absolute
 + Option  Cursorstylus
 + Option  USB   on
 + Option  KeepShape on
 + Option  debuglevel20
 +EndSection
 
 
 
 --
 
 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier single head configuration
 Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
 InputDevice Mouse0 CorePointer
 InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 InputDevice stylus AlwaysCore
 EndSection
 Section InputDevice
 

Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-09 Thread Darren Williams
Patric

There is a small error in the file delete the following line
in the file I give you earlier.

EndSubsection Virtual 1024 768

Darren

 # File generated by XFdrake.
 # **
 # Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of 
 # this file. 
 #**
 Section Files
 # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) 
 # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of   
 # the X server to render fonts.
 FontPath unix/:-1
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerFlags 
 #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
 #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching) 
AllowMouseOpenFail 
 # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
 EndSection
 
 Section Module
 Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
 Load v4l # Video for Linux   
 Load extmod
 Load type1
 Load freetype
 Load glx # 3D layer
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Keyboard1
 Driver Keyboard
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout en_US
 Option XkbOptions 
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse1
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2
 Option Device /dev/mouse
 Option ZAxisMapping 6 7
 EndSection
 
 #
 # The Tablet stuff, here we define what the tablet is
 # what drives it and some configuration options.
 # Here is where you will fiddle a bit to get the
 # settings correct.
 #
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  stylus
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  stylus
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorstylus
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  cursor
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  cursor
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorpuck
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  eraser
  Driver  aiptek
  Option  Device/dev/input/event0
  Option  Type  eraser
  Option  Mode  absolute
  Option  Cursorstylus
  Option  USB   on
  Option  KeepShape on
  Option  debuglevel20
 EndSection
 #
 # End os Tablet stuff
 #
 
 Section Monitor
 Identifier monitor1
 VendorName Plug'n Play
 ModelName Compaq V70 Color Monitor
 HorizSync 30-69
 VertRefresh 50-150
 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
 # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494 563 -hsync -vsync
 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
 # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595 630
 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
 ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590 616
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
 Identifier device1
 VendorName ATI
 BoardName ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC
 #Driver nv
 Option DPMS
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
 Identifier screen1
 Device device1
 Monitor monitor1
 DefaultColorDepth 24
 Subsection Display
 Depth 8
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth 15
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 Subsection Display
 Depth 16
 Virtual 1024 768
 EndSubsection
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier layout1
 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
 
 # Now enable the tablet stuff on the server
 InputDevice stylus AlwaysCore
 InputDevice cursor AlwaysCore
 InputDevice eraser AlwaysCore
 # end tablet stuff
 
 Screen screen1
 EndSection

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-09 Thread James Gregory
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 07:13:27AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 Okay guys, here's the whole thing:
 
 Here's the XF86Config-4 file details:
 (Do you also need the XF86 config file too, or just -4?)
 
 Below that is something that I'd found in a file online, but I'm not
 sure how useful it is.

I think that will be useful, but let's get the standard, minimalist case
working first. That config snippet appears to give you separate input
devices for the writing and erasing parts of the tablet.

 
 Below that again is the suggestion from Ben.

I've attached my best guess at what should be in that file.

I am fairly sure that what you're saying about X scanning for config
files in that order is correct. I would get rid of the
/etc/X11XF86Config file and just use the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. Add
a symlink for good measure in case some application tries to write
config data to the wrong place. So, run this:

rm /etc/X11/XF86Config
ln -s /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config

Now, make a backup of the config file that's in place before you do
anything. You always want a way to roll back. Put the file I've attached
to this email in place of what you've got and restart X (killall X
should do the trick).

If either your tablet, or all of X fails to work, please make a copy of
/var/log/XFree86.0.log available for us to inspect. It will be a large
file, so I suggest putting it up on a website somewhere and posting a
link if that's possible. Otherwise, just send it to me directly I guess.

HTH,

James.

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# File generated by XFdrake.

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of #
# this file.
# **

Section Files
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
FontPath unix/:-1
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
#DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
#DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
EndSection

Section Module
Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
Load v4l # Video for Linux
Load extmod
Load type1
Load freetype
Load glx # 3D layer
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard1
Driver Keyboard
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout en_US
Option XkbOptions 
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse1
Driver mouse
Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2
Option Device /dev/mouse
Option ZAxisMapping 6 7
EndSection

# Tablet stuff:
Section InputDevice
Identifier stylus
Driver aiptek
Option Device /dev/input/event0
Option Type stylus
Option Mode Absolute
Option Cursor stylus
Option USB on
Option KeepShape on
Option AlwaysCore on
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier monitor1
VendorName Plug'n Play
ModelName Compaq V70 Color Monitor
HorizSync 30-69
VertRefresh 50-150

# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494 563 -hsync -vsync

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine 768x576 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595 630

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590 616
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier device1
VendorName ATI
BoardName ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC
Driver ati
Option DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier screen1
Device device1
Monitor monitor1
DefaultColorDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth 8
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 15
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 16
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 24
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier layout1
InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
InputDevice stylus AlwaysCore
Screen screen1
EndSection

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-08 Thread Elliott-Brennan
That I will do.

Great???

I think the quote at the bottom more accurately reflects MY thinking of
the possibilities :

Before I go and trash X again: how, from a crash, does one record/locate
the logs of a crash for posting?

What I'll also post will be another possible config that I've located...

This'll be one big post!

Finally, I read online that the XF86Config is read before XF86Config-4
file and that both need to be changed...or something like that??


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From: James Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 8 October 2004 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help
understanding:)


On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:26:21PM +1000, elliott-brennan wrote:
 I could quite likely be putting it in the wrong place
 
 Should I post the two parts (my XF86Config-4 file and your 
 suggestion)?

That's a good idea. We can probably give you a config file to drop in
that should work. Then, if it doesn't, it'd be awesome to see the log
files; then we can diagnose the fault.

It'll be great.

James.

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-07 Thread elliott-brennan
After inserting the new lines, I decided to try it out on my 'testing' 
HDD - well, I forgot to save the config file for THAT machine and ... 
buggered... wouldn't/couldn't start X at ALL.

Tried all sorts of things, searched web, looked in mags at home... damn. 
Thought I'd have to completely reinstall, then... remembered that I HAD 
saved a copy (some days ago) cp'd that back to /etc/X11 and bingo... 
back in business :))
(not bad for a newbie - rescued myself!). So back to the inserted lines 
and ... X fails again.

I could quite likely be putting it in the wrong place
Should I post the two parts (my XF86Config-4 file and your suggestion)?
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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-07 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Matt,

All I did was plug it in. It uses software to match pad size to screen
size. Some of the Wacom's seem to have buttons to do this (just from the
pictures I've seen and what I've been told).

I'm using Mandrake 10.0 Official. If you get your's going properly (and
same here) let me know. I could be in the market for a second-hand Wacom
pad - I've been using this for two years and there's NO-WAY I'd go back
to a mouse for graphic work... Just have to keep my other O/S going. The
major problem is that Photoshop is VERY resource hungry and so I'd have
to keep it on my fastest machine and thus couldn't run Linux to it's
best ability :( 



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Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 1:53 PM
To: Elliott-Brennan
Cc: 'Kevin Waterson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver
?needhelpunderstanding:)


On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31:53AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux 
 recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up.

What did you do to try and use it?  I discovered a wacom ultrapad
serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out.

Wacom say they supply the developers at linuxwacom.sourceforge.net
hardware and info.

Matt





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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-07 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Elliott-Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm using Mandrake 10.0 Official. If you get your's going properly (and
 same here) let me know. I could be in the market for a second-hand Wacom
 pad - I've been using this for two years and there's NO-WAY I'd go back
 to a mouse for graphic work... Just have to keep my other O/S going. The
 major problem is that Photoshop is VERY resource hungry and so I'd have
 to keep it on my fastest machine and thus couldn't run Linux to it's
 best ability :( 

Currently I do all my graphics on the a G4 iMac using PS. I would like
to use The GIMP on linux but cannot get anywhere with it.
I even tried a new install with the tablet plugged in but it then
could not find the mouse. *sigh*

Kevin


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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-07 Thread James Gregory
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:26:21PM +1000, elliott-brennan wrote:
 I could quite likely be putting it in the wrong place
 
 Should I post the two parts (my XF86Config-4 file and your suggestion)?

That's a good idea. We can probably give you a config file to drop in
that should work. Then, if it doesn't, it'd be awesome to see the log
files; then we can diagnose the fault.

It'll be great.

James.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-06 Thread Elliott-Brennan
I've turned off shorewall on the mandrake box (I'm behind a smoothwall
box for net access), and access has returned. I'm not sure how it even
started to get in the way. Any ideas?

Apologies for the rapid posts - I've got parent's brain at the moment
(both kids waking in the middle of the night %) and parent's time (bits
here and there). I'll try to be more complete and clearer in my posts :)


I'll post the outcome of entering the lines of code in the xfree86-4
file.



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 3:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver
?needhelpunderstanding:)


On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 15:28 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 I can't turn off the smoothwall, as that provides access - when it's 
 off, there's no access to the net.

I didn't realise it was a separate machine. What I meant was to disable
the firewalling functionality to see if that restores access.

 
 I could never get the USB modem to work in Mandrake :(
 
 Route -n gives
 [...]

That looks sane. I assume 192.168.0.1 is your smoothwall machine? can
you ping it? run ping 192.168.0.1 from a terminal.

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-06 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Elliott-Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 After running modprobe aiptek (as root) and then lsmod (as root), and
 nothing else, I have lost net connection and connection to my server
 (home network).

Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux 
recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up.

Kevin


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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-06 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Kevin,

Which distro are you using and which tablet - I've searched a few sites
of late and may have come across something useful (then again... :)

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 6:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver
?needhelpunderstanding:)


This one time, at band camp, Elliott-Brennan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 After running modprobe aiptek (as root) and then lsmod (as root), and 
 nothing else, I have lost net connection and connection to my server 
 (home network).

Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux 
recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up.

Kevin


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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-06 Thread mlh
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31:53AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux 
 recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up.

What did you do to try and use it?  I discovered a wacom ultrapad
serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out.

Wacom say they supply the developers at linuxwacom.sourceforge.net
hardware and info.

Matt


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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-06 Thread Michael Lake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What did you do to try and use it?  I discovered a wacom ultrapad
serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out.
Yeah it will need a driver. Just make sure that when you back it out of 
the garage the driver should look left, then right, left again, exit and 
don't go over the speed limit for the digital highway :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-06 Thread O Plameras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31:53AM +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 

Well, you are having more success than I with a Wacom Tablet. Linux 
recognises it as a keyboard then then X locks up.
   

What did you do to try and use it?  I discovered a wacom ultrapad
serial in my garage the other day and am going to try it out.
Wacom say they supply the developers at linuxwacom.sourceforge.net
hardware and info.
 

( USB ) Wacom Intuos/Graphire tablet support is defaulted into Linux 2.6.x.
I have Linux 2.6.9-rc3 and it is compiled into kernel as module.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hi Ben,

I've looked (VERY closely) at the mouse and tablet. There are no buttons
of any form on the tablet and the pen buttons relate only to the buttons
on a mouse (bugger).

I'm not sure how to reset the factory settings - they seem to relate to
something that Mandrake have installed. There is a file located:

/lub/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/usb/input/aiptek.ko.go

I've not the vaguest idea of what it is and therefore haven't touched it
(I steer clear of anything that has 'Kernel' in the line!).

I know there's *something* in Mandrake that needs configuring but... ???


-Original Message-
From: Ben Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 11:09 AM
To: elliott-brennan
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help
understanding:)


Hi Elliott,

The reason the mouse moves across the entire screen when you move it 2 
is because it's set that way on purpose. (however this is resettable) 
Imagine a graphics tablet 4 feet high x 6 feet wide. (you can get them).

If you had an absolute setting you would have to move the cursor/pointer

6 feet just to get the from one side of the monitor screen to the other 
side.

Thats why you can set a small square the same size as the screen on a 
large tablet so that you don't have to move your pointer 6 feet every 
time. you move the pointer to that small square when you want to do 
something on the screen or move it away when tracing a map (for 
instance). you can even make that small square 2 x 2 to corrospond to 
the screen if you like and the pointer will cross the screen in two 
inches (if held within that square).

Perhaps you could reset the tablet to factory settings and it may remove

the 2 area (relative mode) and (if the tablet is an A4 or A3 tablet) 
you will end up in absolute mode with having to transverse the entire 
tablet to get across the screen but on a small tablet this should not be

much of a problem.

Ben




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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need helpunderstanding :)

2004-10-05 Thread James Gregory
On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 19:48 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 Hi James,
 
 The tablet and pen worked 'out of the box' in the (problematic) manner
 I've described. The site I mentioned: I don't have the *vaguest* idea of
 how to implement what they suggest (it may make sense and it's just that
 I lack the experience to grasp it ??). Their graphic of the GUI looks
 nice though :))
 
 How do I work with the xset program (I've found the location of the
 files, but it's nothing I've so far
 played-with/damaged/accidentally-deleted-and-am-too-embarrassed-to-tell-
 anyone-about :) and so... !?

the xset program sets X 'properties' (I think that's what they're
called). One of the many things it can do is alter the ratio of
mouse-distance to screen distance. For example, to slow the mouse way
down, you might try a command like:

xset m 1/10

which means to apply a 1x multiplier to speed, and a 10x divisor. It
sounds like that's the wrong way to do it but it's worth a shot.

 
 Linux reads the tablet and the pen (and therefore picks up the feedback
 from the pen). The pressure point works and so do the buttons on the
 pen... Confused/perplexed? Moi?

ok. We need to find out what drivers are running this thing so we can
find out what can configure it. Can you send the output of lsmod and
lsusb? I can't think of a program that would tell us about your X
config, so can you take a look through that and see if there's any
references to stuff that looks like it might be your tablet? I realise
that's not very helpful but I don't know what to look for.

If it turns out that Mandrake has automatically loaded the driver from
that page (which is not unlikely), then it may just be a case of getting
an rpm of that configurator program and installing it.

In fact, getting that installed may not be a bad next move. The worst it
will do is tell you that it won't work. Does anyone know where one can
procure such an rpm?

HTH,

James.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? needhelpunderstanding :)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hiya,

Here's the output:




lsmod

Module  Size  Used by
ipt_pkttype 1536  4
ip_nat_irc  3984  0
ip_nat_tftp 3248  0
ip_nat_ftp  4592  0
ip_conntrack_irc   71124  1 ip_nat_irc
ip_conntrack_tftp   3348  0
ip_conntrack_ftp   71668  1 ip_nat_ftp
sg 38044  0
st 38616  0
sr_mod 17028  0
sd_mod 16832  0
scsi_mod  114648  4 sg,st,sr_mod,sd_mod
autofs414656  2
nfsd  173152  8
exportfs5920  1 nfsd
md5 3872  1
ipv6  232352  8
snd-seq-oss31232  0
snd-seq-midi-event  7552  1 snd-seq-oss
snd-seq51024  4 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event
snd-pcm-oss51812  0
snd-mixer-oss  17952  1 snd-pcm-oss
snd-ymfpci 57536  1
snd-ac97-codec 58148  1 snd-ymfpci
snd-pcm93156  2 snd-pcm-oss,snd-ymfpci
snd-opl3-lib9984  1 snd-ymfpci
snd-timer  24484  4 snd-seq,snd-ymfpci,snd-pcm,snd-opl3-lib
snd-hwdep   8928  1 snd-opl3-lib
gameport4480  1 snd-ymfpci
snd-page-alloc 11972  2 snd-ymfpci,snd-pcm
snd-mpu401-uart 7072  1 snd-ymfpci
snd-rawmidi23616  1 snd-mpu401-uart
snd-seq-device  8008  4
snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-opl3-lib,snd-rawmidi
snd52484  16
snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-
oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-ymfpci,snd-ac97-codec,snd-pcm,snd-opl3-lib,snd-tim
er,snd-h
wdep,snd-mpu401-uart,snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-device
soundcore   9248  1 snd
af_packet  20520  2
ide-floppy 18752  0
ide-tape   34864  0
ide-cd 40548  0
cdrom  37184  2 sr_mod,ide-cd
floppy 59444  0
ipt_TOS 2240  12
ipt_REJECT  6464  4
ipt_LOG 5312  8
ipt_state   1728  8
ipt_multiport   1856  0
ipt_conntrack   2304  0
iptable_filter  2624  1
iptable_mangle  2624  1
iptable_nat23116  3 ip_nat_irc,ip_nat_tftp,ip_nat_ftp
ip_conntrack   31152  9
ip_nat_irc,ip_nat_tftp,ip_nat_ftp,ip_conntrack_i
rc,ip_conntrack_tftp,ip_conntrack_ftp,ipt_state,ipt_conntrack,iptable_na
t
ip_tables  16704  10
ipt_pkttype,ipt_TOS,ipt_REJECT,ipt_LOG,ipt_stat
e,ipt_multiport,ipt_conntrack,iptable_filter,iptable_mangle,iptable_nat
eepro100   29740  0
mii 4992  1 eepro100
supermount 37876  1
intel-agp  17372  1
agpgart31016  1 intel-agp
joydev 10240  0
tsdev   7168  0
evdev   9504  0
usbmouse5216  0
hid53312  0
uhci-hcd   29104  0
usbcore99132  5 usbmouse,hid,uhci-hcd
rtc11576  0
ext3  110408  2
jbd54328  1 ext3



lsusb

Bus 001 Device 005: ID 08ca:0010 Aiptek International, Inc. Tablet
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a5:2060 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.)
Prisa 620U+/640U
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] patrick]#
 
NB. The first entry is the Tablet - it's quite impressive that it says
this clearly.
The second is the scanner - thanks to Darren and James!!








-Original Message-
From: James Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 11:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?
needhelpunderstanding :)


the xset program sets X 'properties' (I think that's what they're
called). One of the many things it can do is alter the ratio of
mouse-distance to screen distance. For example, to slow the mouse way
down, you might try a command like:

xset m 1/10

which means to apply a 1x multiplier to speed, and a 10x divisor. It
sounds like that's the wrong way to do it but it's worth a shot.

 
 Linux reads the tablet and the pen (and therefore picks up the 
 feedback from the pen). The pressure point works and so do the buttons

 on the pen... Confused/perplexed? Moi?

ok. We need to find out what drivers are running this thing so we can
find out what can configure it. Can you send the output of lsmod and
lsusb? I can't think of a program that would tell us about your X
config, so can you take a look through that and see if there's any
references to stuff that looks like it might be your tablet? I realise
that's not very helpful but I don't know what to look for.

If it turns out that Mandrake has automatically loaded the driver from
that page (which is not unlikely), then it may just be a case of getting
an rpm of that configurator program and installing it.

In fact, getting that installed may not be a bad next move. The worst it
will do is tell you that it won't work. Does anyone know where one can
procure such an rpm

Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread O Plameras
Elliott-Brennan wrote:
/lub/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/usb/input/aiptek.ko.go
 

The above file appears,
aiptek.ko
in Fedora.  But you have Mandrake.
In your /boot directory check for a file that says
config-2.6.x
In this file, check if you have a line that says,
CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK=m
then your tablet driver is compiled as a module.
And you should be able to load it using
#modprobe aiptek
If it says CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK=y then
it is compiled into the kernel and there is no
need to load it.
If it says
#CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set
then it is not part of the kernel at all and you
have to re-compile your kernel after setting it
to *CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK=m**
*
I am using 2.6.9-rc3 and AIPTEK driver
included supports AIPTEK 6000U/8000U tablet.
If your tablet is of a different model you have
to find the driver for that; patch that driver into
your kernel; configure your kernel to activate;
and re-compile. Once done your tablet will
just work after re-starting you computer with
this new kernel.
As you know Sourceforge.net in the link you have shown
has driver support for
*Aiptek HyperPen 4000U*, *5000U*, *6000U*, *8000U*, and *12000U.
*
The patch is for 2.6.5.

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-05 Thread Ben de Luca
Quickly looking through the mailing list archive on the site you mentioned I wonder if you need to alter your xorg/Xfree config to look some thing like
x-tad-bigger Section ServerLayout
Identifier single head configuration
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
InputDevice stylusAlwaysCore
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  stylus
Driver  aiptek
Option  Device/dev/input/event0
Option  Type  stylus
Option  Mode  Absolute
Option  Cursorstylus
Option  USB   on
Option  KeepShape on
Option  AlwaysCore on
EndSection/x-tad-bigger

If you do getting working, I think it might make a good alternative to the wacoms that I buy at work, what size/cost was it?

bd




On 04/10/2004, at 10:13 PM, elliott-brennan wrote:

Hi,

I've been trying to configure a graphic tablet in Linux (as those who've seen my previous posts will know).

I'm 95% there but need some help understanding some material I've found. At:

http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/

I've found some information, but I don't quite understand what they're suggesting to do :(

Mandrake 10.0 official, Kernel 2.6 (no changes - I wouldn't know how) reads this as a USB device (which it is) and I can do everything I can in the 'other O/S' except... the tablet area needs to be read as the same size as the monitor screen (called 'absolute' in somethings I've read), rather than reading it like a mouse. As I said, everything else works, which is great, but if I move the mouse 2, it moves across the entire viewable area of the screen!

Any help/suggestions/referrals most appreciated.

Patrick

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hi O Plameras,

As you suggested below, I checked the config file and is showed
'CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK=m'. I then '#modprobe aiptek' as you suggested (now
bare with me as I'm new to this - well, 2 1/2 months new :)

So, the output from that was...well, nothing visible to me.  What do I
do next? The tablet was active before, as I said, and is still - but
nothing else has changed. Is there a file I need to configure somewhere
to set the parameters?

Thanks,
Patrick



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O Plameras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 1:37 AM
SNIP

In your /boot directory check for a file that says
config-2.6.x

In this file, check if you have a line that says,

CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK=m

then your tablet driver is compiled as a module.
And you should be able to load it using

#modprobe aiptek

SNIP

I am using 2.6.9-rc3 and AIPTEK driver
included supports AIPTEK 6000U/8000U tablet.

If your tablet is of a different model you have
to find the driver for that; patch that driver into
your kernel; configure your kernel to activate;
and re-compile. Once done your tablet will
just work after re-starting you computer with
this new kernel.

As you know Sourceforge.net in the link you have shown
has driver support for

*Aiptek HyperPen 4000U*, *5000U*, *6000U*, *8000U*, and *12000U.
*
The patch is for 2.6.5.







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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread O Plameras
Elliott-Brennan wrote:
As you suggested below, I checked the config file and is showed
'CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK=m'. I then '#modprobe aiptek' as you suggested (now
bare with me as I'm new to this - well, 2 1/2 months new :)
So, the output from that was...well, nothing visible to me. 

After modprobe aiptek, do an 'lsmod' and see if there is a line that 
show 'aiptek'.

What do I
do next? The tablet was active before, as I said, and is still - but
nothing else has changed. Is there a file I need to configure somewhere
to set the parameters?
 

You must  ascertain the model that you have to confirm that it is 
supported by
your kernel driver.

It is like your mouse where if the device is supported by the driver it 
will just
work otherwise if the mouse does not have the specific driver it will behave
erratically.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hokely dokely.

So:

modprobe aiptek (as root)

lsmod (as root) reads:


Module  SizeUsed by
aiptek  51520


Usbcore 99132   9   usbmouse, aiptek, hid, uhci-hcd

FYI 
I use a ps/2 mouse

I've just tested the tablet and it's actions/behaviour is unmodified...
I gather there's another step to make it work within the parameters of
the tablet drawing area?  :))



-Original Message-
From: O Plameras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 9:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help
understanding:)


Elliott-Brennan wrote:

As you suggested below, I checked the config file and is showed 
'CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK=m'. I then '#modprobe aiptek' as you suggested (now 
bare with me as I'm new to this - well, 2 1/2 months new :)

So, the output from that was...well, nothing visible to me.

After modprobe aiptek, do an 'lsmod' and see if there is a line that 
show 'aiptek'.

 What do I
do next? The tablet was active before, as I said, and is still - but 
nothing else has changed. Is there a file I need to configure somewhere

to set the parameters?
  

You must  ascertain the model that you have to confirm that it is 
supported by
your kernel driver.

It is like your mouse where if the device is supported by the driver it 
will just
work otherwise if the mouse does not have the specific driver it will
behave erratically.





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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread O Plameras
Elliott-Brennan wrote:
Hokely dokely.
So:
modprobe aiptek (as root)
lsmod (as root) reads:
Module  SizeUsed by
aiptek  51520
Usbcore 99132   9   usbmouse, aiptek, hid, uhci-hcd
FYI 
I use a ps/2 mouse

I've just tested the tablet and it's actions/behaviour is unmodified...
I gather there's another step to make it work within the parameters of
the tablet drawing area?  :))
 

Have a look at the list-archive and direct your additional queries here:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=32305
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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hi,

I'll enter a post there.

What I have read as suggestions are WAY beyond anything I'm able to do -
even the instructions are far too complicated :(

Thanks.



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From: O Plameras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help
understanding:)


Elliott-Brennan wrote:

Hokely dokely.

So:

modprobe aiptek (as root)

lsmod (as root) reads:


Module SizeUsed by
aiptek 51520


Usbcore99132   9   usbmouse, aiptek, hid, uhci-hcd

FYI
I use a ps/2 mouse

I've just tested the tablet and it's actions/behaviour is unmodified...

I gather there's another step to make it work within the parameters of 
the tablet drawing area?  :))

  

Have a look at the list-archive and direct your additional queries here:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=32305




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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Title: Message



Thanks to all. I'm going to enter a listing at Sourceforge, as suggested, 
but I seem to have my tablet already working better than most ... through no 
effort on my behalf other than plugging it in.

Any other suggestions will be appreciated. 

Any cheap 2nd-hand Wacom tablets for sale :)))

  
  -Original Message-From: Ben de Luca 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 8:20 
  AMTo: elliott-brennanCc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver 
  ? need help understanding :)Quickly looking through the 
  mailing list archive on the site you mentioned I wonder if you need to alter 
  your xorg/Xfree config to look some thing likeSection 
  "ServerLayout"Identifier "single head configuration"Screen 0 "Screen0" 
  0 0InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"InputDevice "Keyboard0" 
  "CoreKeyboard"InputDevice "stylus" "AlwaysCore"EndSectionSection 
  "InputDevice"Identifier "stylus"Driver "aiptek"Option "Device" 
  "/dev/input/event0"Option "Type" "stylus"Option "Mode" 
  "Absolute"Option "Cursor" "stylus"Option "USB" "on"Option 
  "KeepShape" "on"Option "AlwaysCore" "on"EndSectionIf you do getting 
  working, I think it might make a good alternative to the wacoms that I buy at 
  work, what size/cost was it?bdOn 04/10/2004, at 
  10:13 PM, elliott-brennan wrote:
  Hi,I've been trying to configure a graphic tablet in 
Linux (as those who've seen my previous posts will know).I'm 95% 
there but need some help understanding some material I've found. 
At:http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/I've found some 
information, but "I don't quite understand what they're suggesting to do" 
:(Mandrake 10.0 official, Kernel 2.6 (no changes - I wouldn't know 
how) reads this as a USB device (which it is) and I can do everything I can 
in the 'other O/S' except... the tablet area needs to be read as the same 
size as the monitor screen (called 'absolute' in somethings I've read), 
rather than reading it like a mouse. As I said, everything else works, which 
is great, but if I move the mouse 2", it moves across the entire viewable 
area of the screen!Any help/suggestions/referrals most 
appreciated.Patrick-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group 
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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread O Plameras
Elliott-Brennan wrote:
Hi,
I'll enter a post there.
What I have read as suggestions are WAY beyond anything I'm able to do -
even the instructions are far too complicated :(
Thanks.
 

Hokely dokely.
So:
modprobe aiptek (as root)
lsmod (as root) reads:
Module  SizeUsed by
aiptek  51520
   

Incidentally, your aiptek driver is older.
In my 2.6.9-rc3 kernel here is the size,
Module  Size  Used by
aiptek   18176  0
Upgrading to a newer release of Kernel
may improve functionality.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 10:35 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:

Just btw, rebuilding the kernel here is unnecessary. The Mandrake kernel
ships with the aiptek module.

 modprobe aiptek (as root)
 
 lsmod (as root) reads:
 
 
 ModuleSizeUsed by
 aiptek51520

The 'used by' column is how many things are using the driver. It says
'0', so there's an additional step there. Once there's something talking
to the driver, that number will increase.

So, if you look at man aiptek it will give you details of some stuff
you'll need to add to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Then it should work. I
suspect that's the missing piece of the puzzle here. The aiptek X
drivers appear to ship with Mandrake as well.

Keep a copy of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file so you've got a way to
get things running again if you break it.

HTH,

James.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need helpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 12:21 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 James,
 
 Thanks. I'll look at this. 
 
 Umhh - how do I find 'man aiptek'

You open up a terminal and type 'man aiptek'.

 
 Thank god I don't need to rebuild the kernel - everytime I see something
 that mentions this, I think it should come with a warning don't try
 this at home or This was performed under strict professional
 supervision :) I can't even begin to understand any of it - though if
 there's a site that has a newb'ish language explanation, I'd be
 fascinated.

It's generally not necessary these days (IMHO). Most linux distros have
got good kernel maintainers that make sure all this stuff is built as
modules, and the module system itself works quite well. Mandrake in
particular seem to build in just about every patch conceivable.

 
 Also, Ben earlier suggested something like:
 [...]

That might work. I think you'll get best results if you use the aiptek
driver directly though.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need helpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 12:34 +1000, James Gregory wrote:

  
  Also, Ben earlier suggested something like:
  [...]
 
 That might work. I think you'll get best results if you use the aiptek
 driver directly though.

arh. I'm an idiot. That snipper *did* include a reference to the aiptek
driver. It should work fine.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Okay.

At the risk of appearing Uber-careful and pedantic (and I know that's
what I'm being), I open the xfree86-4 file and enter the lines Ben
suggested - making sure I keep a copy of the original file first!!!

Is there any particular 'place' in the file that it should be entered,
or anywhere in the file is fine?

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needhelpunderstanding:)


On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 12:34 +1000, James Gregory wrote:

  
  Also, Ben earlier suggested something like:
  [...]
 
 That might work. I think you'll get best results if you use the aiptek

 driver directly though.

arh. I'm an idiot. That snipper *did* include a reference to the aiptek
driver. It should work fine.

James.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 12:55 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 Okay.
 
 At the risk of appearing Uber-careful and pedantic (and I know that's
 what I'm being), I open the xfree86-4 file and enter the lines Ben
 suggested - making sure I keep a copy of the original file first!!!
 
 Is there any particular 'place' in the file that it should be entered,
 or anywhere in the file is fine?

I'd put it in about the same location as the other InputDevice sections.

I'd also read the man page I pointed you to before doing it; there may
be other information in there that you should be aware of.

You should probably also add a line that says 'aiptek'
to /etc/modprobe.preload so that the module gets loaded on each reboot.
It might not be necessary, but it won't hurt and it's better to cover
all bases if you aren't familiar with fixing these kind of things.

But in short, yes, that's what you do.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hi,

After running modprobe aiptek (as root) and then lsmod (as root), and
nothing else, I have lost net connection and connection to my server
(home network).

I've tried to reset the net connection be deleting the old one and
installing a new one and then rebooting (it says to restart X but I
don't know any other way :(

My box is behind a smoothwall, and I can connect to the net with my win2
machine?

Ifconfig gives me

Etho: linx encap: Ethernet Hwaddr 00.90.27.58.5D.83
Inet addr: 192.168.0.198 and a mask that fits with the one I know I use.
255 255 255 0
Inet 6 addr fe80 :: 290:27ff:fe58:58d83/64 scope: link
Up broadcast running multicast mtu:1500 metric: 1
RX packets 7 errors and the rest are 0
TX packets 6 and the rest 0
Collisions and txqueluelen are 0 and 1000 respectively


Lo line encap gives local loopback
Inet adr is 127.0.0.1 and mask is 255.0.0.0

Inet 6 addr ::1/128 scope: host

Up loopback running mtu: 16436 metric : 1
Rx pack 767 the rest 0
Tx packs identical 
Collisions and txque etc are 0

Rx bytes 50964 (49.7kb) and Tx bytes the same

I've rebooted Smoothwall, rebooted both win2 and Mandrake machines
(after the smoothwall to ensure it allocates addresses) and still only
my win2 machine will connect!

Anyone with any ideas?


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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 14:20 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 After running modprobe aiptek (as root) and then lsmod (as root), and
 nothing else, I have lost net connection and connection to my server
 (home network).

It is highly unlikely that loading those modules directly caused your
net connection to stop working.

 
 I've tried to reset the net connection be deleting the old one and
 installing a new one and then rebooting (it says to restart X but I
 don't know any other way :(
 
 My box is behind a smoothwall, and I can connect to the net with my win2
 machine?
 
 Ifconfig gives me
 
 Etho: linx encap: Ethernet Hwaddr 00.90.27.58.5D.83
 Inet addr: 192.168.0.198 and a mask that fits with the one I know I use.
 255 255 255 0
 Inet 6 addr fe80 :: 290:27ff:fe58:58d83/64 scope: link
 Up broadcast running multicast mtu:1500 metric: 1
 RX packets 7 errors and the rest are 0
 TX packets 6 and the rest 0
 Collisions and txqueluelen are 0 and 1000 respectively

Well, that all looks sane. What does 'route -n' give you?

Just to rule out any firewall problems, try stopping smoothwall and see
if you get net connection back. If you're convinced that the tablet
modules had something to do with it, then try rebooting without your
tablet plugged in.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread Elliott-Brennan
I can't turn off the smoothwall, as that provides access - when it's
off, there's no access to the net.

I could never get the USB modem to work in Mandrake :(

Route -n gives

[EMAIL PROTECTED] patrick]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] patrick]# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
eth0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] patrick]#


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From: James Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver
?needhelpunderstanding:)


On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 14:20 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 After running modprobe aiptek (as root) and then lsmod (as root), and 
 nothing else, I have lost net connection and connection to my server 
 (home network).

It is highly unlikely that loading those modules directly caused your
net connection to stop working.

 
 I've tried to reset the net connection be deleting the old one and 
 installing a new one and then rebooting (it says to restart X but I 
 don't know any other way :(
 
 My box is behind a smoothwall, and I can connect to the net with my 
 win2 machine?
 
 Ifconfig gives me
 
 Etho: linx encap: Ethernet Hwaddr 00.90.27.58.5D.83
 Inet addr: 192.168.0.198 and a mask that fits with the one I know I 
 use. 255 255 255 0 Inet 6 addr fe80 :: 290:27ff:fe58:58d83/64 scope: 
 link Up broadcast running multicast mtu:1500 metric: 1
 RX packets 7 errors and the rest are 0
 TX packets 6 and the rest 0
 Collisions and txqueluelen are 0 and 1000 respectively

Well, that all looks sane. What does 'route -n' give you?

Just to rule out any firewall problems, try stopping smoothwall and see
if you get net connection back. If you're convinced that the tablet
modules had something to do with it, then try rebooting without your
tablet plugged in.

James.

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RE: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ?needhelpunderstanding:)

2004-10-05 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 15:28 +1000, Elliott-Brennan wrote:
 I can't turn off the smoothwall, as that provides access - when it's
 off, there's no access to the net.

I didn't realise it was a separate machine. What I meant was to disable
the firewalling functionality to see if that restores access.

 
 I could never get the USB modem to work in Mandrake :(
 
 Route -n gives
 [...]

That looks sane. I assume 192.168.0.1 is your smoothwall machine? can
you ping it? run ping 192.168.0.1 from a terminal.

James.

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[SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-04 Thread elliott-brennan
Hi,
I've been trying to configure a graphic tablet in Linux (as those who've seen my 
previous posts will know).
I'm 95% there but need some help understanding some material I've found. At:
http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/
I've found some information, but I don't quite understand what they're suggesting to 
do :(
Mandrake 10.0 official, Kernel 2.6 (no changes - I wouldn't know how) reads this as a USB 
device (which it is) and I can do everything I can in the 'other O/S' except... the tablet 
area needs to be read as the same size as the monitor screen (called 'absolute' in 
somethings I've read), rather than reading it like a mouse. As I said, everything else 
works, which is great, but if I move the mouse 2, it moves across the entire viewable 
area of the screen!
Any help/suggestions/referrals most appreciated.
Patrick
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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-04 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 22:13 +1000, elliott-brennan wrote:

 Mandrake 10.0 official, Kernel 2.6 (no changes - I wouldn't know how)
 reads this as a USB device (which it is) and I can do everything I can
 in the 'other O/S' except... the tablet area needs to be read as the
 same size as the monitor screen (called 'absolute' in somethings I've
 read), rather than reading it like a mouse. As I said, everything else
 works, which is great, but if I move the mouse 2, it moves across the
 entire viewable area of the screen!

I don't have a tablet, but if it's operating like a mouse, it might be
worth looking into the 'xset' program; it will allow you to control
mouse speed.

Re: that webpage. It appears to be referring to a kernel/X driver pair.
Is that the driver you've used to get the thing to work? If so, you
might just need to use that manager program thing to make it work.

HTH,

James.

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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-04 Thread Ben Donohue
Hi Elliott,
The reason the mouse moves across the entire screen when you move it 2 
is because it's set that way on purpose. (however this is resettable) 
Imagine a graphics tablet 4 feet high x 6 feet wide. (you can get them). 
If you had an absolute setting you would have to move the cursor/pointer 
6 feet just to get the from one side of the monitor screen to the other 
side.

Thats why you can set a small square the same size as the screen on a 
large tablet so that you don't have to move your pointer 6 feet every 
time. you move the pointer to that small square when you want to do 
something on the screen or move it away when tracing a map (for 
instance). you can even make that small square 2 x 2 to corrospond to 
the screen if you like and the pointer will cross the screen in two 
inches (if held within that square).

Perhaps you could reset the tablet to factory settings and it may remove 
the 2 area (relative mode) and (if the tablet is an A4 or A3 tablet) 
you will end up in absolute mode with having to transverse the entire 
tablet to get across the screen but on a small tablet this should not be 
much of a problem.

Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Graphic tablet - 'found' driver ? need help understanding :)

2004-10-04 Thread Ben Donohue
forgot to say...
sometimes there's a button on the back of the tablet that you stick a 
pen into and it reset's the tablet. otherwise read the manual.
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