Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Leslie
> I have to put together a presentation and I would like to use a LaTeX
> based solution. I have had a look at Michael Wiedmann's page that lists
> a lot of solutions:
> http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html
> 
> Has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with any particular
> solution? Other people at this thing will be using Powerpoint, so I
> would like to look as good as they do.

chaksem. All good.

http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/presentation/presentation.html

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RE: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-05 Thread Rowling, Jill
I have used seminar.sty and converted the output using ps2pdf.

The only caveat I would suggest is to make sure you use a common font like
times if you are not 100% sure of the presentation computer.

After preparing my slides and converting them to PDF, I got them looking
nice on Linux and MacOSX, then drove over to Mum's place to make sure it
worked on Windows.

Mike used Prosper. It looked very good as a PDF on Linux and MacOSX but
failed completely on Windows until he changed the font to something boring
like times.

In our case, we had to produce something that worked on different operating
systems.
If you have the luxury of presenting using your own PC then anything that
you can see on the screen will be OK.
The only problems you might have are low resolution projectors, and things
that look purple on the screen might look blue on the projector.

Regards,

Jill.

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Subject: [SLUG] LaTeX slides


I have to put together a presentation and I would like to use a LaTeX
based solution. I have had a look at Michael Wiedmann's page that lists
a lot of solutions:
http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html

Has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with any particular
solution? Other people at this thing will be using Powerpoint, so I
would like to look as good as they do.

Thanks,
Alan
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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-05 Thread Michael Lake
Alan L Tyree wrote:
> I have to put together a presentation and I would like to use a LaTeX
> based solution. I have had a look at Michael Wiedmann's page that lists
> a lot of solutions:
> http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html
> Has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with any particular
> solution? Other people at this thing will be using Powerpoint, so I
> would like to look as good as they do.

The above site is excellent.
I have used mainly the seminar.sty and prosper package. Both are
excellent. The propser has more control over the PDF file and can do
slide transitions and you can use colour more easily. The seminar
package has more control over things like creating smaller slides like 4
to an A4 page which can be printed out to hand out to people or use as a
cue for yourself. 

One general suggestion i have is to avoid anything that looks like a
PowerPoint (PP) presentation. Two reasons; I dot think that those styles
are very professional or laid out well. The background yakes away impact
from the content. 2. Such PP styles are now like the descending flight
of ducks on the wall. They are over cliched and over used. Eg for the
prosper example (Figure 1.5) they have a screen shot that looks like a
PowerPoint Presentation. That's what to avoid IMO. But you can use
prosper and make your own style quite easy. Its an excellent package. 

For the last presentation I made in January at a conference I preented a
summary of a Web based cave database. I used an off white background,
and black text (Utopia). At the bottom for those that were bored I put a
short bit of data extracted from the actual database of funny cave
names. That was done in a smaller font and at a gray of 75% so it didnt
detract from my main text.
I presntation like that might stood out amoung the others precisely
because it was low-key and had more contrast. 

Things that are nice about prosper is that you can embed PDF commands
like telling Acrobat to open up as full screen, slide mode when you
click on the .pdf file (Windows and Mac OSX only). Interestingly the
organiser asked me how I did that. Others had to start acrobat and then
use the menus to set it while the audience waited.

mgp looked quite nice but you need your own laptop running Linux to use
it. Also make sure it uses nice fonts that are smooth and not bitty. I
like prosper or seminar as you can make PDF which any PC will display.
 Make sure they have Acrobat 5.0 installed and get them to test your
PDF beforehand ***

 All of the above though depends on what you are presenting and what
the audience expects. 

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-06 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:41, Michael Lake wrote:



> 
> One general suggestion i have is to avoid anything that looks like a
> PowerPoint (PP) presentation. Two reasons; I dot think that those styles
> are very professional or laid out well. The background yakes away impact
> from the content. 2. Such PP styles are now like the descending flight
> of ducks on the wall. They are over cliched and over used. Eg for the
> prosper example (Figure 1.5) they have a screen shot that looks like a
> PowerPoint Presentation. That's what to avoid IMO. But you can use
> prosper and make your own style quite easy. Its an excellent package. 

Thanks for that Michael - I think these are good points. And thanks to
others for comments on packages. I am inspired to try several.


> 
>  All of the above though depends on what you are presenting and what
> the audience expects. 

Banking lawyers - no flames please!

Alan

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On 6 Feb 2003, Alan L Tyree wrote:

> Has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with any particular
> solution? Other people at this thing will be using Powerpoint, so I
> would like to look as good as they do.

I used to use foiltex, but I wasn't happy with the flashiness of it.  On a
recommendation, I tried out Prosper, and absolutely love it.


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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-07 Thread Angus Lees
At Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:06:22 +1100, Jill Rowling wrote:
> I have used seminar.sty and converted the output using ps2pdf.
> 
> The only caveat I would suggest is to make sure you use a common font like
> times if you are not 100% sure of the presentation computer.

The font should have been embedded in the ps and pdf files produced -
if not, you (or your TeX installation) is doing something wrong.

If you encounter that again, bring it up on the slug list (or
privately I guess) and we can debug it.


If you are generating pdfs directly with pdftex, definately try and
get a recent version - they workaround the new bugs in recent
acroreads.


I've used seminar, prosper and a few others. I keep going back to the
standard slides class, since I prefer the vertical centering and lack
of headers.  But then, my slides tend to have very little content.

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-07 Thread Patrick Lesslie

I've found that pdflatex works where latex -> dvips -> ps2pdf will
sometimes create a seemingly font-free document.  I assumed that that
meant, as Gus has suggested, that pdflatex embedded the fonts and
therefore allowed portability.

BTW I really appreciate this discussion of LaTeX slides ;)

patrick


On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Angus Lees wrote:

> At Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:06:22 +1100, Jill Rowling wrote:
> > I have used seminar.sty and converted the output using ps2pdf.
>
> The font should have been embedded in the ps and pdf files produced -
> if not, you (or your TeX installation) is doing something wrong.

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Alan L Tyree wrote:
>Banking lawyers - no flames please!

In that case, go with powerpoint.  The more useless eye-candy and
uninformative gunk you can throw at them, the better.

Banking lawyers... crikey.  :-)

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Alan L Tyree wrote:
>I have to put together a presentation and I would like to use a LaTeX
>based solution. I have had a look at Michael Wiedmann's page that lists
>a lot of solutions:
>http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html
>
>Has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with any particular
>solution? Other people at this thing will be using Powerpoint, so I
>would like to look as good as they do.

I use chaksem (based on seminar, and written by an old lecturer of mine ;-),
which does overlays and displays pretty cleanly, very readable text on a
projector.  Bit of a steep learning curve if there's no examples, though --
and there aren't many ;-)

http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/presentation/presentation.html

or grab the chaksem package on Debian (sid) systems.

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-07 Thread Patrick Lesslie

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:

> http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/presentation/presentation.html
>
> or grab the chaksem package on Debian (sid) systems.

Manuel Chakravarty makes some interesting points.
TeX people write such nice pages ;-)
and you weren't kidding about the examples ...
> Latest News:
 ...
> * A second example on how to use the style

Michael Wiedmann's document
http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html
looks like it will keep growing.
I like how it has an index!  Typical TeX fiend ...

Patrick

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-09 Thread Ian Wienand
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:05:00AM +1100, Patrick Lesslie wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> 
> > http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/presentation/presentation.html
> >
> > or grab the chaksem package on Debian (sid) systems.
> 
> Manuel Chakravarty makes some interesting points.
> TeX people write such nice pages ;-)
> and you weren't kidding about the examples ...

If you want a very simple, very rushed sample presentation using just
points and overlays, you can check out.

http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/~ianw/chaksem/linuxconf.tex

You can then move on from there to more advanced features till your
presentations look like Manuel's :)

Also I have put up Matt Chapman's pspresent at 

http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/~ianw/pspresent/

This allows you to show your postscript file full screen and scroll
through it.  *Very* handy if you use a PPC notebook and thus can't get
acrobat reader, and xpdf doesn't do full screen.

that is if the external vga port works on said laptop ...

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-09 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Ian Wienand wrote:
>Also I have put up Matt Chapman's pspresent at 
>
>http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/~ianw/pspresent/

Unfortunately I don't have permission to access pspresent-0.9.tar.gz on that
server :(

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-15 Thread Angus Lees
At Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:51:01 +1100, Ian Wienand wrote:
> Also I have put up Matt Chapman's pspresent at 
> 
> http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/~ianw/pspresent/
> 
> This allows you to show your postscript file full screen and scroll
> through it.  *Very* handy if you use a PPC notebook and thus can't get
> acrobat reader, and xpdf doesn't do full screen.

I always use xpdf for presentations:
  xpdf -fullscreen -bg black $file.pdf

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-16 Thread Ian Wienand
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:09:57AM +1100, Angus Lees wrote:
> > This allows you to show your postscript file full screen and scroll
> > through it.  *Very* handy if you use a PPC notebook and thus can't get
> > acrobat reader, and xpdf doesn't do full screen.
> 
> I always use xpdf for presentations:
>   xpdf -fullscreen -bg black $file.pdf

yes sorry I confused myself I meant 'rotated'.  This is a problem
really only peculiar to chaksem, in that it outputs the postscript in
'seascape' mode.  a straight ps2pdf conversion doesn't seem to set the
rotation of the pdf properly, and then gives you an upside down pdf
presentation.

of course you can always select 'rotate' from the menu in xpdf twice
to flip it over, but pspresent (or ghostscript really) knows the
orientation from the ps file so you don't have to bother with this all
the time.

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

2003-02-16 Thread Michael Lake
Ian Wienand wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:09:57AM +1100, Angus Lees wrote:
> > > This allows you to show your postscript file full screen and scroll
> > > through it.  *Very* handy if you use a PPC notebook and thus can't get
> > > acrobat reader, and xpdf doesn't do full screen.
> >
> > I always use xpdf for presentations:
> >   xpdf -fullscreen -bg black $file.pdf
> 
> yes sorry I confused myself I meant 'rotated'.  This is a problem
> really only peculiar to chaksem, in that it outputs the postscript in
> 'seascape' mode.  a straight ps2pdf conversion doesn't seem to set the
> rotation of the pdf properly, and then gives you an upside down pdf
> presentation.
> 
> of course you can always select 'rotate' from the menu in xpdf twice
> to flip it over, but pspresent (or ghostscript really) knows the
> orientation from the ps file so you don't have to bother with this all
> the time.

edit the PostScript and rotate the coordinate system

180 rotate 
stroke
showpage

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