Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
Hi all Just a follow up and a thanks. I've setup the user with Xming - opening a Putty connection, starting the Xming Windows server and then starting the programs from a putty terminal. Works fast and not sluggish. They mainly use only a few apps (a very pricy IDL being one). I could not get a full Gnome desktop with Xming appearing due to "bad packet length errors" and permissions problems. I just couldn't work that out. I also had probs with vnc. At least this will work for now. Thanks Alex, Ken, Chris, Roger, Jake & David for the suggestions. Michael Lake wrote: I need get get several MS Windows users access to a Fedora Linux box. I have nxserver from nomachine on at present and it works very well but it's limited to just two users. I had tried previously using freenx but I could not get it to work as there seemed to be many library problems in the package. This review here shows a lot more than I wanted to see! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software#cite_note-SSHwithX_sessions-4 I basically want a free/open source server for Linux and a free client for Windows for several users to display a Gnome desktop. Plain ssh -X is not sufficient. What have you found that is modern and works well that you have tried? Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Centre of Expertise Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. Think. Green. Do. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
Ken Foskey wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 14:19 +1100, Michael Lake wrote: I can run though things like xterms and from those run the Gimp from the remote machine. Works very well and is not slow. I just have to work out how to run a Gnome session so the users on the Windows machine locally can see the Gnome menus on the remote machine. Ensure you have xdmcp enabled: (See I got it wrong...) system: Administration : Remote (tab) check that Style is not set to 'Remote login disabled'. This is insecure, so ssh is far more secure. You could tunnel through but it would take more set up. Ah I don't have a gdm.conf nor Admin/Remote in the menus. (normally one would add I think enable=true into some [xdmcp] section) Anyways what I did was to use Ming's XLaunch and selected to start a program. Rather than start a ssh session I entered gnome-session, gave the host, username and password and Gnome started up. Speed is quite fine but after a while I get "Not responding". Then its OK for a while then not responding. -- Michael Lake Computational Research Centre of Expertise Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. Think. Green. Do. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 14:19 +1100, Michael Lake wrote: > I can run though things like xterms and from those run the Gimp from the > remote > machine. Works very well and is not slow. I just have to work out how to run > a Gnome > session so the users on the Windows machine locally can see the Gnome menus > on the > remote machine. Ensure you have xdmcp enabled: (See I got it wrong...) system: Administration : Remote (tab) check that Style is not set to 'Remote login disabled'. This is insecure, so ssh is far more secure. You could tunnel through but it would take more set up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
Michael Lake wrote: Hi all Chris Johns wrote: You can avoid cygwin with Xming: http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/ Xming looks quite good from the website that says what it does. It's much smaller than cygwin too. (I'll try cygwin later too) However I have Xming installed and tried the XLauncher but I get a root window :0 with nothing. I was expecting a GDM login screen from the remote machine. I can run though things like xterms and from thsoe run the Gimp from the remote machine. Works very well and is not slow. I just have to work out how to run a Gnome session so the users on the Windows machine locally can see the Gnome menus on the remote machine. Mike You need xdmcp turned on to get an X desktop over a remote connection as I recall. I haven't actually had a GDM screen running over it though from windows, but it should be possible I guess. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
Hi all Chris Johns wrote: You can avoid cygwin with Xming: http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/ Xming looks quite good from the website that says what it does. It's much smaller than cygwin too. (I'll try cygwin later too) However I have Xming installed and tried the XLauncher but I get a root window :0 with nothing. I was expecting a GDM login screen from the remote machine. I can run though things like xterms and from thsoe run the Gimp from the remote machine. Works very well and is not slow. I just have to work out how to run a Gnome session so the users on the Windows machine locally can see the Gnome menus on the remote machine. Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Centre of Expertise Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. Think. Green. Do. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
Michael Lake wrote: So I would need Cygwin/X not the normal Cygwin? I have a cygwin on my Windows box that gives a "bash" shell but I presume I need one with X? You can avoid cygwin with Xming: http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/ Regards Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
> Ken Foskey wrote:
> > I have an open X server at home and I simply run X on my windows
> desktop
> > to get into it:
> >
> > cygwin
> > X -query myserver
> >
> > Pretty simple, very insecure it is reliant on network security.
>
> So I would need Cygwin/X not the normal Cygwin? I have a cygwin on my
> Windows box
> that gives a "bash" shell but I presume I need one with X?
>
> When you write "X -query myserver" is that using Xnest ie do you mean
> "Xnest -query myserver" ?
I've installed the xorg packages with normal Cygwin.
(http://cygwin.com/setup.exe) Once installed, I fire up the x server
("startxwin.sh" from the bash prompt), "ssh -Y mylinuxbox" then run programs
from the ssh command line as needed.
Hope that helps. It's been a while since I set it up, so there's probably an
additional setting or 2, but the cygwin site has fairly comprehensive
documentation and support. Also, this doesn't give a full gnome desktop, but I
believe that's also possible.
I also have vnc enabled and use ssh tunnelling to access my logged in desktop
that way.
- Rog
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Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 17:01 +1100, Michael Lake wrote: > Ken Foskey wrote: > > I have an open X server at home and I simply run X on my windows desktop > > to get into it: > > > > cygwin > > X -query myserver > > > > Pretty simple, very insecure it is reliant on network security. > > So I would need Cygwin/X not the normal Cygwin? I have a cygwin on my Windows > box > that gives a "bash" shell but I presume I need one with X? > > When you write "X -query myserver" is that using Xnest ie do you mean > "Xnest -query myserver" ? > Straight from Bash itself, you are starting a new Xserver and linking it to the actual server in one step. You can probably do this with a windows batch file in one step but I have no need. If you get a grey box coming up then you have to enable xdcmp (I think) in the sign on daemon you use (eg gdm). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
Michael Lake wrote: I basically want a free/open source server for Linux and a free client for Windows for several users to display a Gnome desktop. Plain ssh -X is not sufficient. I've done it one of two ways: 1. Using a Windows X-Server like Xming (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming) and then ssh in using your client of choice (putty works fine for this). I've setup plenty of Windows-based DBAs like this before 2. Setup some sort of VNC server on the linux box and use a VNC client to connect. There's a few ways of doing this. Using the first way is the easiest of the two I reckon. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
Ken Foskey wrote: I have an open X server at home and I simply run X on my windows desktop to get into it: cygwin X -query myserver Pretty simple, very insecure it is reliant on network security. So I would need Cygwin/X not the normal Cygwin? I have a cygwin on my Windows box that gives a "bash" shell but I presume I need one with X? When you write "X -query myserver" is that using Xnest ie do you mean "Xnest -query myserver" ? Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Centre of Expertise Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. Think. Green. Do. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
I have an open X server at home and I simply run X on my windows desktop to get into it: cygwin X -query myserver Pretty simple, very insecure it is reliant on network security. Ta Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Latest or recommended ways to display Gnome Desktop from Windows boxes.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 03:05:42PM +1100, Michael Lake wrote: > Hi all > > I need get get several MS Windows users access to a Fedora Linux box. > I have nxserver from nomachine on at present and it works very well but > it's limited to just two users. I had tried previously using freenx but I > could not get it to work as there seemed to be many library problems in > the package. > > This review here shows a lot more than I wanted to see! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software#cite_note-SSHwithX_sessions-4 > > I basically want a free/open source server for Linux and a free client > for Windows for several users to display a Gnome desktop. Plain ssh -X is > not sufficient. > > What have you found that is modern and works well that you have tried? vncserver and ultravnc , the former on the linux box and the later on windows boxes > > Mike > -- > Michael Lake > Computational Research Centre of Expertise > Science Faculty, UTS > Ph: 9514 2238 > > > > > -- > UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F > DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not > read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If > you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately > and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the > individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, > states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before > opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. > > Think. Green. Do. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- We all know that no one understands anything that isn't funny. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
