Re: [RCSE] Frequency control [was Park flyer]
Sailplanes wrote: Kyosho of Japan sells a small channel checker that you plug a Futaba RX crystal of the desired channel in to see if anyone is on your freq prior to flying. An alarm and light comes on if anyone is on that channel. Unless any of the channel checker gizmos or any scanners etc have very high gain antennas it's unlikely they'll be able to "see" a park flyer tx half a mile or a mile away through a lot of ground clutter, houses, trees etc. On the other hand, your plane's receiver is airborne and will have a much better shot at "seeing" and getting hit by the other transmitter on the ground far away. So while having Channel Check may help avert disaster on some occasions, it seems to me to hardly be foolproof. It's great from keeping you from turning on the tx on while somebody else is flying AT THE SAME LOCATION, but I'm not at all sure it will help all that much with people flying from separate locations like Mike P described. If there are any RF wizards out there who can help put some numbers to this, please contact me privately to discuss an idea that may help. Gabe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Elmira, a short note
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jimp Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 6:56 PM To: Lynn King (Tercels) Cc: Clark, Graeme; Fred China Subject: Scale Gliders at the Canadian Nats Hi Lynn, As Fred China and Erik Eiche yesterday returned from a successful participation in the Elmira meeting I figured that it was time to exchange notes. Fred's new 1/4 scale Karakan was awarded first place in the Classic class and was also was awarded the Best of the Show and took the same honours as Erik did two years ago. Steve Dents, from Seattle was there as an observer and he told them that he has a 1/4 scale Wilga tow plane, which he is willing to bring to our meet on July 28. I trust the you know Steve. We would be interested to know what response you have to your enquiries. Erik and Fred want to fly at our event but are not interested in the organisation or running of the event, Regards, Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Look ma, no mixer!
Haha! Yeah., actually I have. A kid came up to the slope and asked me to test fly his Zagi (his first plane). I moved the stick up and down and noticed that only one elevon moved. Moving the stick left and right did nothing. The radio was not a computer radio or a Hitec 3 channel, so I told the kid he would need an onboard mixer to move the other elevon. "Oh no," he said confidently, "you use the other stick for that!" Sure enough, he had the left stick set up to move the elevon on the left wing. Push both sticks forward to go down, pull both back to go up, and move them in opposite directions to roll. I guess its what you'd call biological mixing. Anyway, I did not want to fly it that way, so the kid threw it off himself. He actually mananged to fly for about 30 seconds before crashing (no damage). I gotta give the kid credit for enginuity. With enough practice you might be able to get a system like that to work, but I hope he got a better raido. BTW, I've also heard you can accomplish non-electronic mixing by holding the radio at a 45 degree angle. Doug Turner wrote: I have been cutting a few EPP flying wings for my brother-in-law and his buddies. Apparently one of his friends has a 4 channel radio with no mixing so he set up the radio with one elevon controlled by the left throttle stick and the other elevon with the right stick. They said they couldn't wait to get a mixer. I guess they are flying it tank driver style. I may have to give that a try sometime just to see if I can do it. I grew up on a farm and I used to drive a hay swather like that, but I couldn't drive it straight to save my life. Maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea.. Anyone tried this before? Doug "Insert cheesy slogan here" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] AARGH! Help!
I wouldn't trade the old attitude in, just realign the current one. Simply figure that you'll finish the plane when you finish it. If it ain't done in time for your trip, then so be it. It'll be ready next time. So take your favorite plane and enjoy the new site. --Bill On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:08:54 -0700 Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got a spare 'better attitude' they can send me, hopefully by email or perhaps downloadable from a personal website? Here's my current attitude: Life has again placed obstacles in the way of getting a plane done in time to travel. I'm trying to be ok with it, the reasonable thing is to be ok with it, there's so many reasons that it's perfectly fine, but it's driving me CRAZY. I'm off to California tomorrow, and just an hour ago I did the math and realized that aside from employing a level of obsession that would do damage, there is no way I'm gonna finish my current plane in time to bring it. RRRGH! Yes I chose to do all the things that kept me from putting enough time into this plane in advance. Yes, I even enjoyed many of those things. Yes, I live in the richest country in the world, and my life is crammed full of priveledge. Yes, I will enjoy working on and eventually flying this plane when I get back. Yes, it will be better not to rush it, and have a nicer plane when it's done. Yes, this will allow me to concentrate more on family while I'm in Palo Alto. Yes, I even have another plane I can bring. It flies fine. It flies great. But it's not my NEW PLANE, dammit and none of the above is helping, I'm still grumpy. I'm still agonizing over visions of those beautiful hills up behind my in-laws' home in the early morning, the first sun stirring the low lying puddles of cool night air into action, the red tailed hawks making their first hunting survey of the day, the tall dry grasses giving away just a few of the air's deep secrets as it comes to life under the emergent radiance of a new day. So I'm trying to imagine NOT throwing my new glider into the middle of this magical scene and having a hard time with that. A better attitude, yeah. That's what I need. Well, if you're still reading, thanks for humoring me. I do feel a little better now :) Lift, Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency control [was Park flyer]
It seems that if the guy with the park flyer had one of these, it would have averted the problem. As seems typical, the victim was actually that, a victim. It's too bad we can't get 'others' to fly by the normal rules. gv From: gabe baltaian Kyosho of Japan sells a small channel checker. So while having Channel Check may help avert disaster.. I'm not at all sure it will help all that much with people flying from separate locations like Mike P described. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Metric Wing Rods
Hi All, need a web site or sites to purchase metric wing rods. Tried drill stock, but it bends. The size I need is 6MM. Any and all help appreciated. Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] real glider video
In a message dated 6/16/00 5:39:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is there any real glider video available? Check out the Soaring Socieity of America's website at www.ssa.org They have some. 'Running on Empty' is old, but still pretty good, it covers a 15m race. Kristopher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] JR nad Hitec
JC Hobbies www.jchobbies.com 800/309-8314 Later, Tom Miller Carlisle, PA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] FAI Sporting Code
Hey guys, A friend forwarded this message to me, I guess he thought I wouldn't see it on my own from RCSE. I'm not sure why he sent it to me, but after reading it a few times, I thought I'd throw in my two cents worth. In a message dated 6/15/00 5:31:38 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being unable to obtain an official list of rule changes from FAI is ridiculous. There is no excuse whatsoever for not having a list of rule changes that are in effect now, and a list of rule changes to go into effect in 2001, reasonably available from FAI. In my opinion, the entire statement quoted above is ridiculous. Being new to the FAI soaring events, I am not currently overly concerned with the minutiae of the Sporting Code. Nor am I designing original planes for FAI competition. But, I find it insane to think that the governing body of any sport, would intentionally keep rules and rules changes a "secret", especially those regarding safety. The FAI may or may not post the rules amendments directly to the official web site. The FAI may only publish an official rule book every two years. This does not mean that the rules changes are unavailable to the common pilot. The FAI is an international governing body, and as such, contains a lot of bureaucratic red tape, nature of the beast so to speak. If you are truly concerned about rules changes that may effect your participation on a World Championship level, then I'd suggest that you contact your national governing body [or the FAI directly], which will (should) have an appointed "FAI liaison" type person. Granted, you may need to do this the old fashioned way; snail mail, phone calls, etc. The rules and updates are available, they may be more than just a "point and click" away, but a few phone calls and written correspondence are well within reason, especially if you're chasing a World Champion title. Poor preparations and/or ignorance of the rules are no excuse when competing for world titles in any sport. Regards, Tom Miller Carlisle, PA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] FAI Sporting Code
If you were active in FAI you would not find the statement ridiculous. There is a long history of last minute rule changes, some in the interest of "safety" that were not in response to any actual injury or near injury. Some of the "safety" changes were simply to place one group at a disadvantage. Even now in F3B, I keep hearing of a change to 10 minutes for the duration task but can find no mention of it in print anywere. I have the latest published copy of the sporting code including the amendments that became active on Jan 1, 2000. How can a pilot, team or country play by the rules when they cannot get a copy of the rules? Personally I think that rule changes should not go into action until after the next rule cycle. That is there must be one FULL rule cycle between PUBLISHMENT of the new rule and it going into action. REAL SAFETY problems can get an instant rule change on acceptance of *every* nation that is a member of the FAI. This is too keep one, (or a few) nations from putting one nation at a disadvantage by a bogus safety rule. Intentional or not, it is hard or impossible to find the real rules. The AMA requires that contests be run according to the *published* rules unless exceptions are published and advertised in advance. Should the world body be expected to do less? michael N6CHV AMA 77292 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, A friend forwarded this message to me, I guess he thought I wouldn't see it on my own from RCSE. I'm not sure why he sent it to me, but after reading it a few times, I thought I'd throw in my two cents worth. In a message dated 6/15/00 5:31:38 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being unable to obtain an official list of rule changes from FAI is ridiculous. There is no excuse whatsoever for not having a list of rule changes that are in effect now, and a list of rule changes to go into effect in 2001, reasonably available from FAI. In my opinion, the entire statement quoted above is ridiculous. Being new to the FAI soaring events, I am not currently overly concerned with the minutiae of the Sporting Code. Nor am I designing original planes for FAI competition. But, I find it insane to think that the governing body of any sport, would intentionally keep rules and rules changes a "secret", especially those regarding safety. The FAI may or may not post the rules amendments directly to the official web site. The FAI may only publish an official rule book every two years. This does not mean that the rules changes are unavailable to the common pilot. The FAI is an international governing body, and as such, contains a lot of bureaucratic red tape, nature of the beast so to speak. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] John Roe
Then he should have some one else do it, and if you are let people know how long it is going to take. common curtsey... I am getting tired of people making up excuses. Jeb - Original Message - From: "Keith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "RCSE" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: [RCSE] John Roe Don't forget, everyone, that John is probably VERY busy getting ready to go overseas to compete in the F3J Worlds as one of the members of the U.S. Team!!! Between running his business, taking care of family and trying to get in some practice on new planes before he leaves, I'm sure he is hurting for free time! Keith M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] 'Getting started' - comments
Just spent a nice time reading Charles River RC's 'Getting Started' pages. See http://www.charlesriverrc.org/getstart_yourfirstmodel.htm All three texts (gas, electric and glider) are well written, but I do miss a few items in the part about electrics and gliders, and not least the total silence about electric EPP planes and EPP flying wings. And I personally feel that the event of the Zagi has resulted in more successful beginners than any other plane the last few years, and not least now with the event of the self-propelled Zagi 400 (Nope, I don't use one, don't own one, but have built and owned various of other Zagis). Secondly, the best beginner's plane isn't ever a Gentle Lady, unless your flying field have very short grass, as a in-grass landing very easily result in a ripped-off stabilisator. Not too fun to travel ten miles to have your stabilisator ripped off after a three minute flight! A frank beginner wrote recently (in RCSE) that for every hour of flying he had at least three hours of repair with his Gentle Lady, and that guy did have access to a good flying field! Pretty close to ideal beginner's plane is the DAW S1-26 HLG. In an emergency it can be used as a HLG on a flat field, excellently it can be used as a small normal glider (perfect on a high-start and I have even winched mine!), or as a sloper, or back-yard plane. If built lightly it can be equipped with an electric 400 motor, and be used as a powered glider - not scale, but who cares? And in sharp contrast it is quite fast and thus behaves like most modern gliders and can therefore be flown in windy conditions, where any Gentle Lady would have to be left at home! What prompted me to write originally was the lack of price estimates for electric models and gliders. A Hitec 3 SS is perfect for most simple gliders and also for many electric models, even for many IC-powered gliders, so $300 is a fair guess for the cheapest electric model, including radio, batteries and chargers. For conventional gliders, say a GL, with all sundries (covering, et cetera), plus a cheap radio, is about $200 (a Zagi is roughly the same), while a IC-powered GL would fetch about $350 (model, radio, batteries, starter, ...). So I think the choice often is governed by two factors: The salesman, who wants to sell the maximum amount of stuff, and the buyer's purse. If all works well, the buyer ends up with a good plane with a cheap radio, say Zagi + Hitec 3 SS, but very often ends up with a 40-size ARF with a computer radio, that before the beginner has soloed under controlled circumstances have will have been reduced to rubble! Thank the powers above that my third start into this hobby (about ten years after the second try) coincided with the foamies revolution! I bought a wooden glider kit first, but then a Zagi LE landed in my lap - haven't looked back since then! And I have just returned to wooden glider kits, as they agree with good flying and landing ability :-)! Tord, Sweden -- If reply difficulties - use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tord S. Eriksson, Ovralidsg.25:5, S-422 47 Hisings Backa, Sweden RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Look ma, no mixer!
In an extreme pinch you can always use the poor man's mixer. Plug in one servo to the elevator channel and one in the aileron channel. If you then hold the transmitter at a 45 degree angle--voila!! You've got elevons. Dan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Soaring clubs in San Antonio and Dallas...others?
I know this is a little late but, the HOTSS club in San Antonio is having a HLG contest tomorrow Sat. 9:00 am. See the Website at http://www.hotss-rc.org/ for details. Great bunch of guys and allot of knowledge too! I am sure we would be interested in doing a round a bout soaring contest season. Drop a line to our webmaster so he can put some details into our newsletter. Keep looking up Chris -Original Message- From: Mike Kovacs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Soaring clubs in San Antonio and Dallas...others? I am looking for soaring clubs in the San Antonio and Dallas areas. Actually, I am looking for clubs in Texas that want to start some type of soaring contest season with a new club in Houston. Thanks = ADD YOUR FAVORITE SLOPE SITE TO THE GLOBAL SLOPE SITE DIRECTORY AT HTTP://WWW.GEOCITIES.COM/J_M_KOVACS SINK NOT. LIFT or LIFT NOT. THERE IS NO SINK. Mike Kovacs __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Park Flyer/Frequency Control solution
Consumer grade spread spectrum technology is out there. When are the RC radio manufacturers going to get off the stick and start using it? -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] John Roe
I for one (among many) am very appreciative of John's efforts and Joe's instruction. Without this video I would have been doomed to continue making the same mistakes and I would have kept "praying" for thermals instead of actively seeking them out. Being the new pioneer of HLG in our club and the first to get hooked on slope and HLG (thanks Jim!), I've been using this list as a source of information to pass on to the other club members. The 3 R's video will be passed around to all club members interested in gliders. Jody Z Okinawa The video represents a lot of work from John. I have the suspicion that he would have been entirely better off if he instead just worked at his job for the same amount of hours, and donated his salary for these hours to the US soaring team. Much less hassle, no complaints, more free time due to not continually packaging up individual videos and shipping them. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Enough with the John Roe posts!!! and the Aspire
No! No! John Roe does not have Gordy! he has the 3R videos and very little time till he gets on a plane. -- Dick Barker Seattle, WA - The Old Fart Glider Flyer - Walter wrote (in error): I think John Roe has Gordy. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency control [park flyer]
This may be a stupid idea but why don't they sell reduced range transmitters to go along with the reduced range receivers with a transmitting distance of 300 to 500 feet if you buy park flyer. Or the RC manufactures can require a snip The new Hitec Focus III FM radio is meant for park flyers. The reciever has a range of only a few hundred feet. But nothing is going to stop them from using a full-range radio. Danny RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency control [park flyer]
This may be a stupid idea but why don't they sell reduced range transmitters to go along with the reduced range receivers with a transmitting distance of 300 to 500 feet Just pull the tx antenna out about 1/3 of it's full length and range test to the distance you want to fly... Mark Mech [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
