[RCSE] Transmitter Repair

2001-11-10 Thread Erik Alber

My Futaba 8UF is acting up.  Where should I send it for repair?  I need
a place with quick turnaround, quality service and reasonable prices.

Thanks,

Erik Alber
Portland Area Soaring Society  Vice President
The Resin Head
http://NuanceHLG.8k.com
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[RCSE] caulking for bag, which one?

2001-11-10 Thread Martin Cleary



I am going to make another attempt at bagging a 
composite wing. I'd like to try using the method a plastic sheet with 
caulking on 3 sides. Is there a best caulk(or a material to stay away 
from)?

Thanks,

Martin


[RCSE] Open Unlimited RES

2001-11-10 Thread WARNER GARTH

I think it was Tom Copp that started this thread and the comments have
been fascinating.  Obviously everybody has their own idea about what
RES/3-Function/Bent Wing is. Well here's my stab at it. Feel free to hit
delete at any point.

Built up RES airplanes have always been fun to fly and hard to land.
They often break wings on launch, and have relatively short legs when
trying to cover ground. Spot landing are a test of energy management and
skill, especially in the wind.  For the most part the older designs use
flat bottom or other funky airfoils, (Remember the Mark Why?). The
airfoils have always been rather thick to maintain strength in the wing.
Not to much experimentation was ever published, or at least no definite
conclusion was ever reached about optimum airfoil design for this
class.  
When computer radios and stronger composite sailplanes came on the scene
RES airplanes died the death they deserved as prime contest
sailplanes.  After all full house composite planes could launch higher,
range further, and land slower than the RES ships. Airfoil design for
camber changing full house ships became a hot topic and airfoil
experimentation really took off, (pun intended).  Understandably,
further development on RES ships pretty much slowed down and died at
this point.  That doesn't mean that they couldn't be competitive today
in the hands of a good pilot. If you recall Joe did ok with one at a
contest here in Socal in the last year or two.  
As a RES coordinator for the Gulls here in San Diego I have run 4 to 6
RES contests a year for the last few years. We have had Nostalgia legal
ships, a wide variety of both kit based built up, and scratch built
composite ships and even the new molded RES ships all flying in the same
contest. The only thing they had in common was that they were all
Rudder/Elevator/Spoiler. 
The trick as always, has been to get enough people interested in flying
RES to take the time and trouble to build something and bring it out to
fly.  To that end, why not consider an Open Unlimited RES class.  The
rules are Rudder/Elevator/Spoiler period. Open up some interest in
developing higher performance RES ships without mandating that somebody
spend 100 hours at the bench meticulously gluing balsa pieces.  Anything
goes... I'll bet after a few years of development there would be several
designs that could give the majority of full house pilots a run for
their money, (no I'm not crazy,  RES design are getting better).  Like
anything else it's going to be practice and skill.
You may have noticed in one of Tom's comments he made a rather veiled
reference to a new toy. Given enough interest, designers and
manufacturers will come out with new high performance toys. Tom, if you
need a beta tester give me a call. I love to fly RES.
As for classes, fly what your local club will support. I don't see a
nationwide trend in any direction for RES.  If you can come up with a
designation that can get enough of a popular movement going nationwide,
then that class should be the AMA class.  Your opinion may vary...

Garth
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Re: [RCSE] caulking for bag, which one?

2001-11-10 Thread Winchdoc

I use the cheapest, white latex caulk I can get. 99cents at home depot when
on sale.
Your bag will seal better if it can fold flat without any big wrinkles in
it.

Doc
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Subject: [RCSE] caulking for bag, which one?


I am going to make another attempt at bagging a composite wing.  I'd like to
try using the method a plastic sheet with caulking on 3 sides.  Is there a
best caulk(or a material to stay away from)?

Thanks,

Martin

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[RCSE] Antenna length/type and mixing

2001-11-10 Thread Monkey King

Is there a rule of thumb for the length of an antenna?  I know that people
run antennae through carbon booms, but that makes the entire internal
antenna worthless, as the carbon absorbs the great majority of EMR.  

So there winds up being a little squiggle of antenna out of the back,
which I think is not so great, aesthetically speaking.  So I'm thinking of
using a couple of pieces of music wire sticking out of the fuselage,
probably aft, to work as antennae.  So my questions on this are:

1: How long should the antennae be?
2: Can/should there be more than one (so that the body and its few carbon 
parts never completely block them)?
3: Is there a modular way to connect antenna wire?  Can you use connectors
with it so I don't have to resolder if I decide to put the gear in a new
ship?

My second question is simpler: my radio (a Futaba SkySport 4) does not mix
chanels.  The plans I'm building from are a V-tail.  I have a few options:

1: Put an electronic mixer in the ship.  Does anyone have a
recommendation?
2: Put a mechanical mixer in.  I don't like this idea, as space is cramped
(it's a 29 wingspan. Things are tight and light.)
3: Use my brain's built-in mixing capability and give each thumb one
ruddervator.
4: Use the Top Secret Hack That Makes My Radio Mix Channels.

I prefer #1.  Actually, I prefer #4, but I think it's a little less likely
to work out.

Now I'm gonna open up the TX case and fiddle with things.

-J

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Re: [RCSE] Open Unlimited RES

2001-11-10 Thread Jack Iafret

At the NATS the last two years RES has shown a lot of support and plane
development. Go to Rich Burnowski's site to see the composite RES stuff he
has for sale.

Also RES has passed the rules portion of the AMA rule book process and I
think will be in effect this coming year as an AMA official event. So you
may want to use that set of rules for your contests.


Jack Iafret
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules
- Original Message -
From: WARNER GARTH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:04 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Open Unlimited RES


 I think it was Tom Copp that started this thread and the comments have
 been fascinating.  Obviously everybody has their own idea about what
 RES/3-Function/Bent Wing is. Well here's my stab at it. Feel free to hit
 delete at any point.

 Built up RES airplanes have always been fun to fly and hard to land.
 They often break wings on launch, and have relatively short legs when
 trying to cover ground. Spot landing are a test of energy management and
 skill, especially in the wind.  For the most part the older designs use
 flat bottom or other funky airfoils, (Remember the Mark Why?). The
 airfoils have always been rather thick to maintain strength in the wing.
 Not to much experimentation was ever published, or at least no definite
 conclusion was ever reached about optimum airfoil design for this
 class.
 When computer radios and stronger composite sailplanes came on the scene
 RES airplanes died the death they deserved as prime contest
 sailplanes.  After all full house composite planes could launch higher,
 range further, and land slower than the RES ships. Airfoil design for
 camber changing full house ships became a hot topic and airfoil
 experimentation really took off, (pun intended).  Understandably,
 further development on RES ships pretty much slowed down and died at
 this point.  That doesn't mean that they couldn't be competitive today
 in the hands of a good pilot. If you recall Joe did ok with one at a
 contest here in Socal in the last year or two.
 As a RES coordinator for the Gulls here in San Diego I have run 4 to 6
 RES contests a year for the last few years. We have had Nostalgia legal
 ships, a wide variety of both kit based built up, and scratch built
 composite ships and even the new molded RES ships all flying in the same
 contest. The only thing they had in common was that they were all
 Rudder/Elevator/Spoiler.
 The trick as always, has been to get enough people interested in flying
 RES to take the time and trouble to build something and bring it out to
 fly.  To that end, why not consider an Open Unlimited RES class.  The
 rules are Rudder/Elevator/Spoiler period. Open up some interest in
 developing higher performance RES ships without mandating that somebody
 spend 100 hours at the bench meticulously gluing balsa pieces.  Anything
 goes... I'll bet after a few years of development there would be several
 designs that could give the majority of full house pilots a run for
 their money, (no I'm not crazy,  RES design are getting better).  Like
 anything else it's going to be practice and skill.
 You may have noticed in one of Tom's comments he made a rather veiled
 reference to a new toy. Given enough interest, designers and
 manufacturers will come out with new high performance toys. Tom, if you
 need a beta tester give me a call. I love to fly RES.
 As for classes, fly what your local club will support. I don't see a
 nationwide trend in any direction for RES.  If you can come up with a
 designation that can get enough of a popular movement going nationwide,
 then that class should be the AMA class.  Your opinion may vary...

 Garth
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Re: [RCSE] RES Is Not Todays Unlimited Ship

2001-11-10 Thread WB6ZHD

In a message dated 11/10/01 6:09:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 there is no way RES can
  compete in the long haul with the ships of today.  If you go with the slick
  airfoil, you do not thermal, you get a great thermal airfoil you do not
  penetrate, both cases relative to the full span camber changing wing.  I
  love the RES/NOS contests, and I fly an ancient one with nothing special,
  but those days are past.  Even on the day that the air is great, the odds 
of
  an RES ship beating the Unlimited ship even in the circle landing task is
  slim, JMHO.
In 1997 I won the Nostalgia Class at Visalia. The event was actually 
misnamed--it was in reality RES. I was flying a nearly kit-stock, 19 year old 
Craft Aire Viking Mk.1. This ship easily gave up 300 ft. of altitude on every 
launch--but thermalled very well. It was difficult to land, enhanced by the 
fact that I had been flying modern planes most of the time. The plane had a 
score which would have placed it 51st overall in the open class. That old $65 
plane beat 230 planes that weekend--most of which were kilobuck masterpieces. 
I agree with Marc that a RES ship cannot beat a modern glass slipper in the 
long haul but disagree that is cannot EVER beat a modern ship. Besides that 
is not the point. RES and NOS should not be expected to beat Hera's, Icons, 
Psychos and the like. The RES planes should be less expensive and easy to 
fly. The Nostalgia planes should only be nostalgic. If you want to 
consistently beat a bunch of Addictions you better get one and practice a lot 
(and borrow some genes from Joe). Most avid and true spirited Nostalgia 
flyers would rather do well with an unusual, rare, or old sailplane than win 
with the best design available for the class. RES is a bit more competitive 
but I think the planes should still be built up to keep the costs down. I 
think Visalia has the right idea here--their RES contest in May is for 
Builtup Bentwings. I may be a bit pollyanna here but I hope RES and 
Nostalgia become popular for the pure joy of flying the planes and not the 
competition.

Mike Clancy
LSF V 92
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Re: [RCSE] RES Is Not Todays Unlimited Ship

2001-11-10 Thread Jack Iafret

I think Nostalgia is going to continue to be a fun, low pressure event, but
RES is going to go competitive based upon what is showing up at the NATS and
starting to be offered by the manufacturers.

The rules for Nostalgia and RES are written to drive to the above scenario.

Of course the CD can control this by his/her call out on what is legal at
any particular contest, but this would kill RES early in it's life if the
AMA rules for the event are not followed consistently. Manufacturers
will/can not develop equipment for multiple rules sets for an event with
limited participation (at this point in time). RES should grow over time
with consistent rules and the manufacturers see that they can sell more than
a couple of kits a month.


Jack Iafret
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] RES Is Not Todays Unlimited Ship


 In a message dated 11/10/01 6:09:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  there is no way RES can
   compete in the long haul with the ships of today.  If you go with the
slick
   airfoil, you do not thermal, you get a great thermal airfoil you do not
   penetrate, both cases relative to the full span camber changing wing.
I
   love the RES/NOS contests, and I fly an ancient one with nothing
special,
   but those days are past.  Even on the day that the air is great, the
odds
 of
   an RES ship beating the Unlimited ship even in the circle landing task
is
   slim, JMHO.
 In 1997 I won the Nostalgia Class at Visalia. The event was actually
 misnamed--it was in reality RES. I was flying a nearly kit-stock, 19 year
old
 Craft Aire Viking Mk.1. This ship easily gave up 300 ft. of altitude on
every
 launch--but thermalled very well. It was difficult to land, enhanced by
the
 fact that I had been flying modern planes most of the time. The plane had
a
 score which would have placed it 51st overall in the open class. That old
$65
 plane beat 230 planes that weekend--most of which were kilobuck
masterpieces.
 I agree with Marc that a RES ship cannot beat a modern glass slipper in
the
 long haul but disagree that is cannot EVER beat a modern ship. Besides
that
 is not the point. RES and NOS should not be expected to beat Hera's,
Icons,
 Psychos and the like. The RES planes should be less expensive and easy to
 fly. The Nostalgia planes should only be nostalgic. If you want to
 consistently beat a bunch of Addictions you better get one and practice a
lot
 (and borrow some genes from Joe). Most avid and true spirited Nostalgia
 flyers would rather do well with an unusual, rare, or old sailplane than
win
 with the best design available for the class. RES is a bit more
competitive
 but I think the planes should still be built up to keep the costs down. I
 think Visalia has the right idea here--their RES contest in May is for
 Builtup Bentwings. I may be a bit pollyanna here but I hope RES and
 Nostalgia become popular for the pure joy of flying the planes and not the
 competition.

 Mike Clancy
 LSF V 92
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Re: [RCSE] RES Is Not Todays Unlimited Ship

2001-11-10 Thread Chuck Anderson

At 09:09 PM 11/10/2001 -0500, you wrote:
I do not know who wrote this, but, if you feel that RES ships can compete
with Unlimited ships of today, I would reference to Bill Friend.  Bill beat
his head against the wall for two years trying and really had nothing to
show for it and all it did was mess up his full house skills to the point
that he is out of the hobby and building an ultralight.  Bill was nearly a
level five and a very knowledgable pilot, but there is no way RES can
compete in the long haul with the ships of today.  If you go with the slick
airfoil, you do not thermal, you get a great thermal airfoil you do not
penetrate, both cases relative to the full span camber changing wing.  I
love the RES/NOS contests, and I fly an ancient one with nothing special,
but those days are past.  Even on the day that the air is great, the odds of
an RES ship beating the Unlimited ship even in the circle landing task is
slim, JMHO.

Marc


Oh I don't know.  I have been flying RES in Unlimited contests almost
exclusively for the last 5 years and I feel that I could have done little
better with a full house ship.  The modern full house ship has evolved into
a model where stability and visibility have been compromised to maximize
performance. Unless you have excellent eyes and good reflexes, then most
flyers would score better with a more stable model even though performance
might suffer a little.  I have beaten a lot of Unlimited full house ships
with my RES model over the last 5 years.  Haven't won any Unlimited
contests lately but that's not the reason I go to contests.  The reason I
go to contests is to have fun.  When it stops being fun, I will find a new
hobby.  So far, I've been having fun for over 50 years.

He who thinks that second place is the first loser has already lost a
wonderful hobby and gained an obsession.  :-)

Chuck Anderson
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RE: [RCSE] Thermal and slope sims

2001-11-10 Thread Stefan Smets

You could try crrcsim; it's free and it can work with your transmitter if
you build the interface-cable or buy it from Jan Kansky; I do believe
there's a problem with JR-transmitters, but apart from that, I like it a lot
(I use Futaba and Multiplex). You can so thermal, slope and DS.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/crrcsim/files/



FMS is not bad either, but I don't think ther's DS in there.
http://simulator.home.pages.de/

Stefan.

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 Onderwerp: [RCSE] Thermal and slope sims


 Due to lack of daylight flying time, I am looking for references
 from users
 of the R/C glider, and slope simulators.  Must be capable of
 using my own tx.
  Which program out there is the best for thermaling, sloping, is
 it possible
 to practice DS on them?
 Paul Cox
 Louisville, KY
 LSF1/LASS
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[RCSE] RDS/Sonic

2001-11-10 Thread Bill Rose Haymaker

I am in the process of building a Bowman's Sonic. Has anyone built this
plane using the RDS system. Any construction tips? How well dose it hold up
to combat?

Bill

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Re: [RCSE] RDS/Sonic

2001-11-10 Thread Harley Michaelis

Bill. . .I don't know this airplane, but as to how the RDS works in combat
ships, I've heard from several fellows with foamies that if the drive shafts
are selected to allow some surface flex that the RDS take a pounding and
keep on going like that famous Energizer Pink Bunny!
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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: [RCSE] RDS/Sonic


 I am in the process of building a Bowman's Sonic. Has anyone built this
 plane using the RDS system. Any construction tips? How well dose it hold
up
 to combat?

 Bill

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Re: [RCSE] 3 function, RES, Nostalgia....../ reduce it to two

2001-11-10 Thread FRED SAGE

Jack;

Chuck is absolutely right on this issue.  RES gliders have difficulty maintaining 
optimum line up during approach.  Once off the perfect approach heading,  correcting 
back to center line is extremely difficult.  Consequently,  loss of landing points is 
most likely to occur from lateral displacement.  Although what you say is true about 
the relative size of the area for a perfect landing score,  that's largely irrelevant 
in RES competition.  Let's take a much more likely case where you're displaced two 
feet (24) from the center line.  With the current runway landing,  that's going to 
cost you 23 landing points.  If the landing were being done to a spot on a standard 25 
foot AMA tape,  that same landing would only cost you 8 landing points.  The bias 
becomes even more extreme as you're farther from the runway centerline.  Assume your 
nose is six feet from runway centerline after landing.  With a runway landing,  you'll 
lose  71 landing points whereas the same landing on a tape only costs 24 points.  IOW, 
 landing points decrement at a three to one ratio from lateral displacement during a 
runway instead of a spot landing.

Fred
  

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Re: [RCSE] 3 function, RES, Nostalgia....../ reduce it to two

2001-11-10 Thread Lincoln Ross

To wring higher performance, I would get another Io, only beefed up. Won
some contests with this, I think it landed better than my Sagitta 600.
Ailerons and rudder mechanically mixed, and spoilers. Of course would
have to leave off the spoilers. I don't think the Io is what the rule
writers envisioned, tho it was fun. Too bad it was so fragile.

Have you tried building with a good cartridge filter mask, and with a t
shirt and fancy furnace filter over a box fan?

Leaving out the spoilers would certainly make the landings more
difficult, but I want a suit of armor if I have to land about the same
time as someone else who may not be experienced.

Richard Hallett wrote:
 Contests have usually in many areas ended in being landing contests
 
 Since everyone is flying over the same square miles I would suggest that we
 should have only two servos for rudder and elevator.
 
 We have now increased the difficulty of the landing factor to help in
 defining skill.
 
snip snip
 
 My two cents - throw out the spoilers.  At that point you might be able to
 say instead of RE the two servo  class meaning the only limitation will be
 the two servos.  I wonder how someone would wring higher performance with
 just two servos beyond the expected??
 
 Personally because I hack and cough so badly with balsa I would not enter a
 contest requiring a balsa based model.
 
 Rick
 

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[RCSE] Re: glassed leading edges on builtup wing

2001-11-10 Thread Lincoln Ross

An intermediate possibility is Sig sanding sealer. Probably not as hard,
certainly not as strong, but a fairly pleasant job if you spread it out
fast before it starts to dry. You can make a squeegee out of end grain
balsa sheet. Sands nicely.

You can put the glass on at an angle to increase your torsional
stiffness, maybe.
Kristopher wrote:
 I have an old 2m builtup plane I am finnaly getting around to finishing up.
 The leading edge is fully sheeted, but the sheeting is fairly soft.  I have
 thought about glassing this leading edge dbox with light glass and epoxy,
 then covering the back half with oracover.  Has anyone done this before?
 Seems to me it would greatly improve durability.
 
 Kristopher

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Re: [RCSE] RES vs unlimited

2001-11-10 Thread tony estep

As always, Chuck knows what he's talking about (see below)! If you had
the old spot landing task, RES ships would be fully competitive in
Unlimited, at least in the hands of a good flyer. This would open up a
lot of interesting possibilities for design improvements, potentially
bring in some new blood, lower the average cost of planes, and possibly
have other benefits as well. As I've said on here before, I dream of
the day when an RES ship wins unlimited in a big contest. However, if
the contest is decided by landing points on a runway or shuffleboard
landing task, that ain't gonna happen.

 There is no practical difference in the thermaling performance
 between the
 full house model and RES.  The only real difference is in the ability
 to
 float down the landing string at very low speed and spike the spot
 when
 the time runs out.  Flaps will always have a landing advantage but
 the
 advantage can be minimized by getting rid of landing on a string as
 done at
 the nats.  Since RES models do not have the precise lateral control
 near
 touchdown, landing exactly on the string is much more difficult. 
 Going
 back to the L4 landing option would reduce the penalty for slight
 lateral
 deviations and eliminate the ability to slowly float down the string
 waiting for the countdown to reach zero.  
 
 Chuck Anderson


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Re: [RCSE] 3 function, RES, Nostalgia....../ reduce it to two

2001-11-10 Thread Al Scidmore


- Original Message -
From: Lincoln Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] 3 function, RES, Nostalgia../ reduce it to two


 To wring higher performance, I would get another Io, only beefed up. Won
 some contests with this, I think it landed better than my Sagitta 600.
 Ailerons and rudder mechanically mixed, and spoilers. Of course would
 have to leave off the spoilers. I don't think the Io is what the rule
 writers envisioned, tho it was fun. Too bad it was so fragile.

 Have you tried building with a good cartridge filter mask, and with a t
 shirt and fancy furnace filter over a box fan?

 Leaving out the spoilers would certainly make the landings more
 difficult, but I want a suit of armor if I have to land about the same
 time as someone else who may not be experienced.

 Richard Hallett wrote:
  Contests have usually in many areas ended in being landing contests
 
  Since everyone is flying over the same square miles I would suggest that
we
  should have only two servos for rudder and elevator.
 
  We have now increased the difficulty of the landing factor to help in
  defining skill.
 
 snip snip
 
  My two cents - throw out the spoilers.  At that point you might be able
to
  say instead of RE the two servo  class meaning the only limitation
will be
  the two servos.  I wonder how someone would wring higher performance
with
  just two servos beyond the expected??
 
  Personally because I hack and cough so badly with balsa I would not
enter a
  contest requiring a balsa based model.
 
  Rick
 

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Re:IO and [RCSE] 3 function, RES, Nostalgia....../ reduce it to two

2001-11-10 Thread Al Scidmore

What a lead-in! I recently discovered that I still have my IO and will
shortly be advertising it for sale. I agree, it is better than a Sagitta 600
on keeping the landing heading and it also has a leg up on the Sagitta 600
in L/D. If anyone is interested in acquiring a RTF IO, drop me a line
- Original Message -
From: Lincoln Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] 3 function, RES, Nostalgia../ reduce it to two


 To wring higher performance, I would get another Io, only beefed up. Won
 some contests with this, I think it landed better than my Sagitta 600.
 Ailerons and rudder mechanically mixed, and spoilers. Of course would
 have to leave off the spoilers. I don't think the Io is what the rule
 writers envisioned, tho it was fun. Too bad it was so fragile.

 Have you tried building with a good cartridge filter mask, and with a t
 shirt and fancy furnace filter over a box fan?

 Leaving out the spoilers would certainly make the landings more
 difficult, but I want a suit of armor if I have to land about the same
 time as someone else who may not be experienced.

 Richard Hallett wrote:
  Contests have usually in many areas ended in being landing contests
 
  Since everyone is flying over the same square miles I would suggest that
we
  should have only two servos for rudder and elevator.
 
  We have now increased the difficulty of the landing factor to help in
  defining skill.
 
 snip snip
 
  My two cents - throw out the spoilers.  At that point you might be able
to
  say instead of RE the two servo  class meaning the only limitation
will be
  the two servos.  I wonder how someone would wring higher performance
with
  just two servos beyond the expected??
 
  Personally because I hack and cough so badly with balsa I would not
enter a
  contest requiring a balsa based model.
 
  Rick
 

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[RCSE] Single Stick Transmitters

2001-11-10 Thread Danny C Williams


There was some talk about Single Stick Transmitters a little while ago,
and I have three. 
That I am selling all of them.  One is a Kraft and the other two are
Royal's.
I just thought I would give the gang on the list first shot at them
before I E-bay them...


Dr. Dan Williams 
Broomfield, Co
RMSA/PPSS/SWSA

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[RCSE] Thermal and slope sims

2001-11-10 Thread SoarCrashnburn

Due to lack of daylight flying time, I am looking for references from users 
of the R/C glider, and slope simulators.  Must be capable of using my own tx. 
 Which program out there is the best for thermaling, sloping, is it possible 
to practice DS on them?
Paul Cox
Louisville, KY
LSF1/LASS 
-Nice landing, that won't be hard to fix...
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Re: [RCSE] Multiplex 3030 transmitter antenna alternatives?

2001-11-10 Thread walter higgins

Jay, I was having trouble with my vision when I first installed the rubber 
duck antenna on it. It scrambled the data stored in the eprom that stored 
model setup.  The problem was Rf leaking inside of the Tx.  I had attached 
the lead from the rubber duck to the pc board where the metal tab came out 
to attach to the end of the stock antenna.  This left about an inch of 
antenna inside my vision to leak Rf into anything that would catch it.  
After some trouble shooting I finally realized what was causing the problem. 
  I attached the lead from the rubber duck to the place where it would have 
connected to the stock antenna. No more internal antenna, no more Rf leaks 
and the duck worked fine after that.

Walter
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From: Elvis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [RCSE] Multiplex 3030 transmitter antenna alternatives?
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:24:31 -0800

Recently tried using a rubber ducky type antenna with my Multiplex 3030
transmitter. It appears that the use of this particular rubber ducky 
antenna
interferes with the transmitter's display, i.e., the normal display 
contents
are scrabbled. For those who might be interested, there is further
documentation of the problem at following web site:
http://www.monkeytumble.com/mpx3030/antenna.htm

Two questions:

1) Have any other mc 3030 users encountered this problem?

2) Has anyone found a rubber ducky type antenna that works well with the
3030? I'm looking for a shorter antenna alternative for DLG flying.

Thanks,

Jay Decker
Portland, OR

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[RCSE] Wing induced drag coefficient

2001-11-10 Thread j. sean fleming

In Dr. Ing. Ferdinando Gale's book, Aerodynamics Of Radioguided Sailplanes, 
(and in Theory of wing sections), the formula on p. 69 states that :Cdi=Cl 
squared/pi x ARw for AR of infinite aspect ratio, and Cln/pi 
x{(1/ARn)-(1/ARw)} for data obtained from a smaller aspect ratio than the 
actual wing. Yet on p. 74 and the excercise on B-3 prob. B-9, the formula is 
stated as 2x these fromulas. As this coefficient is needed in order to 
obtain the over all drag of the airframe, which is the proper formula? Or am 
I just missing something obvious?

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[RCSE] RES models

2001-11-10 Thread Phavriluk

I've been following the recent discussions about suitable RES models. What's 
wrong with dusting off that old Off-the-Ground/Ace Quasoar and building that 
up as-originally-designed polyhedral, but with spoilers instead of flaps? 
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Re: [RCSE] 3 function, RES, Nostalgia....../ reduce it to two

2001-11-10 Thread Les and Gypsy Stockley



Message: 5 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 
2001 22:54:52 -0500 From: "Richard Hallett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [RCSE] 3 
function, RES, Nostalgia../ reduce it to two

Down here in NZ we have a 2 metre class which 
allows the use of two servos only.
A few years ago some guys had a serious go and created a 
model with rudder, elevator, ailerons and flaps for launch, all with only two 
servos.
How you may be wondering, well I'll see if you can work it 
out, send in your answer and I'll tell you in a week or so who gets it 
right.
NO answer from NZ accepted!!!
Les.


snipMy two cents - throw out the spoilers. At that point you might 
be able tosay instead of RE the "two servo class" meaning the only 
limitation will bethe two servos. I wonder how someone would wring 
higher performance withjust two servos beyond the expected??snip