[RCSE] [RCSD] The Park Flyer Menace
I have to agree with Don Stackhouse--the answer is not to ban park flyers, but to bring those folks into our clubs. We used the safety and interference argument here in Columbus to get the City to allow us to fly electrics at our sailplane field. (We had previously been banned from flying anything other than pure gliders at the city-owned site.) We announced the new permission to fly electrics every way we could--to other clubs, at fliers posted at all the hobby shops, etc. The result has been a lot of new members in the club, and a lot of new and interesting planes being flown at the MOSS field. So far, it has not interfered with sailplane operations (although I am still looking for that second half hour flight for LSF III.) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] The Park Flyer Menace
I'd like to suggest that it would be nice to keep park fliers on 27Mhz and 49Mhz. This should not be pursued through the FCC! But rather as a gentlemen's agreement in the industry. I only wish I had a clue how to go about doing it. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Reflective holographic tape
Try http://www.airdyn.com/ and click on the link for SS tape. This site has lots of goodies. -Original Message- From: Rense Lange [mailto:renselange;earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 9:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Reflective holographic tape I am looking for the holographic reflective tape. I found that Wings- and-Things exists no longer, and I can't find another supplier. Anyone? Rense Lange RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] New -BLACK- plane unveiled:Radical
I thought the outermost portions of the wing(?) looked like they had a movable trailing edge - they seem to face away from the body at 45 degrees, but they look sort of like elevons to me anyone else see that? B phantom works is also pushing the flexible wing, and I've seen a paper talking about a 3 position wing (loiter, cruise, something else) - I wish I were back in the desert, would love to see this thing ; ) I wonder exactly where the control sufaces are RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] For Sale - Lots of stuff
Got lot's of things to sell, I'm making substantial changes in my life. Need to simplify. Photos are available for all items listed. Serious inquires only. SoCal locations preferred. Shipping by arrangement. 1) 32 all molded Stinger Speed 400 Electric. Has two JR-241 servos, new motor and Castle Creations Pixie 14 controller. Needs minor work to complete the torque rods for ailerons. Mine looks Exactly like this: http://www.f3x.com/electrics/stingersp400.htm Never flown. Optional - include (4) four 8 cell battery packs, never used. Make offer. 2) Wizard II compact - Animal Style (yellow and red with swooshes on wing and tail). No scratches - Like new condition. Absolutely Beautiful, only flown on grass. Hoopes-like wing connectors fixed to fuse (plug in wings) New battery, new carbon pushrods. Carbon joiner. Very clean installation. Hitec HS-85MG's in tail, MPX Micro mcV2's on flaps, Volz Micro Max on the ailerons Some detail photos of this plane in current condition are here: http://www.woodsfamily.cc/West/maui/soaring/index.htm. $1000 firm. 3) Pike Extreme - Yellow with dark blue tips and underside. One piece tail. 2x carbon construction. Includes 2 new HS-85MG's for tail, new carbon pushrods, and new JR341 aileron servos. Volz Wing-Maxx on flaps. 6 month old 1800 mah NiCad battery (I think that's the size).. Plane has seen lot's of use, with several repairs. Structurally very solid, performance equal to new condition. Repairs include carbon tow 'bandage between nose and fuse around dual ballast tubes. Left wing tip was damaged landing at Parker. Has been fully repaired but needs painting. Tail has one broken spar, repaired with carbon tow. Tails skins have wrinkle in skin, not yet sanded out (cosmetic only). Misc scratches along bottom of wing and fuse from SoCal landings. This plane has been to La Muella and Viking Cup. Has wing ballast tube and twin fuse tubes. Make offer 4) DLG Raptor from Brian Buass. Brian's personal aircraft, built and assembled by Brian himself. Very rare ( I don't think he makes them anymore). Includes 6 MPX servos, Hitec SuperSlim (caseless) RX, caseless gyro, bagged tail, gorgeously immaculate construction and fit finish. Has throwing peg in wing. One crease in wing, repaired clean and strong. Weight RTF, including all gear 10.5 ~11 ounces. Flaps are 100 degree motion! Make offer. 5) HLG - Mark Allen designed Apex 60 blue foam/glass wing with carbon tow spars, Kevlar/glass fuse. X-tail config. R/E controls, requires dual pull-pull config. Spectra line installed. Plane is 100% assembled and RTF except for radio gear. Wing is in good shape, but has been flown one season. Approximate weight with gear (HS-60's), 10 ounces. $150 6) Pyscho 3 molded cross-tail TD ship. 7037 airfoil. White wings and fuse, with purple trim. This is the origional Barney plane. Flies remarkably well, but condition is poor. Increadibly beefy square carbon joiner. Built-up tail. Good installation, but plane has seen better days. Left wing panel is missing about 8 inches of LE. Spar is fine, wing is fine. Launches great from SWSA's winches. Wing doesn't look bad thanks to creative taping with 2mil colored tape. Make offer 7) Futaba 8UAF tx. Has seen a whole lot of use. Comes with 1100mah NiCad battery, and new antenna (installed). Needs module. $100. All switches functional, and recently serviced by Tower Hobbies. Does NOT have the solder issue on rear pins. Includes Don Enbergs programming book and original manual. 8) Rico-SHE 60 EPP racer. NIB British import. http://shorterlink.com/?SA6FUQ $75 9) Fun-1 From CR Aircraft. Includes three Hitec servos. It flies, but it's not pretty. $75 or best offer 10) 2M Fox scale kit. Semi-disassembled. Wings are in excellent condition, with original white oracover pre-installed. $50, or $100 including two HS-81MG wing servos and harness. 11) KA Mini-XL forward swept balsa sloper. NIB kit. Wood is in excellent condition. Includes instructions and full plane. This plane is a BLAST to launch from a powerful bungee slinger. $50 http://kamodels.com/sprtslope.htm 12) Patton Spitfire 48 PSS epp glider. Originally had immaculate finish, nose needs recovering. Last of it's kind (Steve Patton no longer makes them). This one needs to some work to be great again, but it once was and could be again. I can't bear to tear it apart just for gear. Includes 600mah battery, two standard Hitec servos, and 555 rx. Weighs about 38 ounces, built for fast slopes. Ailerons use torque tubes with perfect differential built in for amazing rolls. $75 local only (won't ship easily) Includes original instructions, and camo Ultracoat rolls. 13) Bowman Hobbies Comanche EPP combat/aerobatic sloper. Would make a great first plane beyond trainer or wing. Includes 600mah battery, two standard Hitec servos, and Hollyday
[RCSE] Shot down... not sure
Just found out my Futaba rx that crashed in my Sapphire at Visalia had a damaged ceramic crystal filter. Can't know if it was due to the crash or caused the crash. Regardless, praise to Larry and CVRC for addressing the concerns of shoot downs. Knowing how abrupt TD landings are I think I'll be sending in my rx's yearly for a physical. I'll also do some additional shock isolation for the rx. Cheap peace of mind. Kudos go out to Hobby Services (Futaba's repair center). They received my rx on Friday, repaired it and shipped it back Monday. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Shot down personally
Hi Ray, Some good points you bring up. Clubs puting on contests should warn the entrants about where to fly or not to fly. Eg. across freeways or busy streets, busy parks with lots of people there. Common sense should dictate this but some people don't think about these things. The landings shouldn't be over these same areas as you are coming in lower and any problems could put you down where you don't want to be. Land down wind or cross wind if you must do so to be safe. Regards, Art Ray Hayes. Web Site http://www.skybench.com wrote: I wonder if the AMA members have thought about criminal action being brought on the rc pilot and activity sponsor (CD, and club members) that put on an event that requires the sailplanes to fly adjacent to a very busy street inside the city limits and the landing tape set up that requires/allows the pilots to fly over the street, if the pilot would injure or kill someone in a passing car ? The event could be caused by pilot error, interference at the worst time possibly from another participating pilot, park flyers, or wind/flying conditions. I see little legal defense for these people and AMA or personal liability insurance is not a factor that will keep us out of jail or worse. Is this a valid concern for all ? Anyone have an opinion or knowledge of this scenario ? The issue of park flyers is real and Simon is right, it is only a matter of time until rc activity hits the press and in my opinion, the courts. Ray - Original Message - From: Simon Van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Shot down personally From the RX's point of view, it will always respond to the strongest (dB-wise) on-channel signal, it's that simple. This presents a very real threat to any aircraft, park flyer, moldie, 40-50% aerobat, or otherwise. Unfortunately, it is only a matter of time before an aircraft flying at a sanctioned location causes public damage or injury, or a death. At this point, our hobby/sport will come under public scrutiny. What will be the end result if your AMA's or our MAAC's insurance carriers realize that ultimately those who fly at sanctioned flying sites have zero control over off-site frequency conflicts? What if some neophyte flying his park flyer decides to litigate because of a sustained injury when their park flyer nails them as a result of frequency interference from the local flying field? I think it is very wrong and irresponsible to market and sell park flyer-type aircraft with TX's that operate on the alotted frequencies, especially at the same O/P power. Although educating those who wish to purchase park flyer equipment about the necessity of frequency control, it is rarely driven home. The hobby shop should be doing this, but the actual sale takes precedence. I doubt it is even mentioned, let alone made abundandly clear. The majority of those who would buy these extremely convenient forms of entertainment would think twice about random operation outside of a sanctioned flying site if they could be found liable. However, this is the furthest thought from their minds, because pointing it out would deter the sale in the first place! The problem of off-site interference is not new. What is new is the profuse availability of ready-made radio control aircraft that are operating on the allotted frequencies, that can be easily flown by neophytes where ever the hell they choose. I hope I am wrong about this, but after attempting to (with diplomacy) point out to a father-son team who were flying a park flyer well within range of a local flying field and being told to butt out - it's none of my business, this problem is not going to get better. I power up my LLM model aircraft frequency scanner every time I fly, but this will only save the day before I fly, not during. Ray Hayes. Web Site http://www.skybench.com; wrote: I would like to open up (maybe it has already been opened) a subject that I was made aware of 25 years ago. While flying with a buddy at a local high school, you already know this invites folks who have never heard of an AMA membership even though they bought their stuff from the local hobby shop or mail order, my buddy was flying his power plane and said to me watch this, see that kid getting ready to take off, he is on my frequency. The observation I made was: the kid had complete control until my buddies TX was closer than the kid's to the kid's RX in his plane. The pilots were 100 feet apart, my buddy was up wind, so the kid flew into our area on take off. My buddy's TX was in-between the kid and the plane my buddy was flying and had no control problems. I have seen this on a few other occasions and so the question is, has anyone else seen this happen and does this make the interference issue two fold,
Re: [RCSE] Getting Hit
Hi Perry, Simon responded to you very well. there are some other things that can cause problems with your receiver such as a bad crystal. This can happen from a hard landing. The plane may look OK and fly Ok but the crystal may stop ocillating and cause a crash as these crystals are fragil. Also flying near high voltage power lines can cause noise which will swamp your receiver with noise so your receiver can't hear the desired signal. power poles in the area with transformers can be a source of noise if not properly grounded. Drive around intersections with power lines over them while listening to your AM radio and you will hear what I mean. Thermals, Art Perry Hudson wrote: Ok, Sitting here on the couch doing some testing my Jr PCM channel 32 will no hit my Jr PPM channel 32 sitting right next to each other. My Futaba PPM will not hit my Jr PPM channel 20 sitting right next to each other . I guess it's the neg pos shift thing? My buddy has a Stylus I think that will talk to either pos or neg ,ppm or pcm receivers without re programming the radio. If this is correct it injects a whole set of numbers into the shot down analysis spread sheet to calculate the odds. 50 frequencies 8 I think on 6 meters PPM PCM Negative Shift Positive Shift So, in order to get shot down, some one would have to be on your channel, with your shift, in your mode PPM,PCM. Or have a Stylus on your channel. Is this right or am I in left field. Regards,Perry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] shot down
Here in the uk, we have a couple of suppliers of frequency monitors www.smservices.net , look under test units www.mainlink.demon.co.uk www.micronradiocontrol.fsnet.co.uk , this is where I got my unit from a few years ago, but I couldn't see it on their webpage. These units are only useful to check that YOU don't turn on and shoot somebody else down. They won't prevent somebody else shooting you down Bill Scott Oban Scotland RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Who will be the lucky few!?!?
Well, because I rather build the things that I know work! I will be selling COMPLETE Ready to WIN glider set up!!! I will have too much time during the off season so I will build and program complete set-ups!!! You just charge the TX and Rx pack and go WIN!!! I'm putting together some COMPLETE packages with Transmitters, I do all the hard work and you just show up to take home the hardware. I will build some Sharons, Compulsions, Fusions, Addictions, and what ever else I feel like putting together. You just pay for the equipment, my time and efforts (of course!!). Let me know if any of you are interested in going this route for your next glider. If not, I'll just add these to my collection... Thanks for your time, Edgar The Soaring Junkie __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Vacuum System For Sale
Heavy Duty/High Capacity 220 Volt Vacuum Bagging System for Sale System consists of 220 Volt Thomas Vacuum Pump, 110 Volt adjustable Vacuum Regulator, Relay to control pump, Reservoir, Gauge, tubing, fittings, bagging material. System mounted and weighs approximately forty pounds. Price is $240 plus actual shipping cost. Please contact me directly via [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Thanks for your time. Michael
[RCSE] Frequency Counter Device
The just posted page: www.mainlink.demon.co.uk Has a Tx Rx Frequency Checker that is exactly what I've been looking for. It's compact and reasonably priced. Sadly, it's for the 35Mhz band and I need 72Mhz! Does anyone know of a similar device or frequency counter which will work for 72megs? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fusion For Sale
N.I.B. Fusion w/ four (4) servo wing, 5/8 inch wingrod already fit to fuse and wings (2 hours worth of work!) $600.00 shipped Thanks, Randy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Counter Device
Look at http://www.icomamerica.com/index.html I got one for approx $140 and use it every flight saved one persons plane who had mounted the wrong Frequency module in his transmitter and was about ready to launch. Ed Granger
