Re: [RCSE] Skegs suck!
On 1/28/03 13:50, Jeff Nibler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you've never tried a skeg on the slope, you don't know what you're missing. I might try that. I flew slope quite a bit when I first came out to SOCAL but grew weary of it quickly. Back and forth. Back and forth. Back and forth. As long as the wind is blowing. Back and forth. Although I will admit that I love flying a large scale glider at Torrey Pines late on a summer day with the sun setting into the Pacific Ocean. Now that is way cool!!! ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Visalia
John, I am NOT going to bust the efforts or time spent by the CVRC group in putting on Visalia's event. I think the event itself is AWESOME. I attended for 2 or 3 years (can't remember exactly) which for someone that lives on the opposite side of the country is not an easy feat. Lots of California folks that attend should be honored/proud/etc that they have such a great event close by! Trust me...a $400+ round trip ticket, +$150 for a model box, +$100 or so for a car, and a couple hr drive from San Jose or LA, is not something to sneeze about. Why did I do it? Because I met some GREAT people (Bill Malvey included...even though I may disagree with him!). BUT...I went there because Visalia is a great EVENT, not a great contest. 3 minute flight task? Think HL, not thermal duration. Sorry...that right there defines landing contest to me. Does everyone make their time? NO. But then again, do these same people make their time at a normal contest? Do a lot of them come for the event or the contest? I came for the event. They put on a great event. Lots of fun. Hard landing task. But the flight timesare generally jokes or easy at worst. I think they had a 7 min flight one day and a 8 the next. In normal California air (sorry guys...come fly out east to get a good perspective) you can launch and with 50-100 planes marking lift fly easially into your time. Yes...sometimes it is harder...but even then you only have 2 out of 7 flights that are difficult. End result...the scores are decided 100% by landings. Jason Werner - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:59 PM Subject: Visalia Jason, I'm getting tired of hearing that soaring tasks are a joke, and that the landing task is 100%. You mention Visalia. Did you look carefully at the results? Scoring was a point a second. Landings were 10, 15 and 25 points for a bulls eye. That means perfect landings would net you 175 points. There were 7 tasks that totaled 38 minutes of flying time, or 2,280 points. If you made all your time without any landings you would have been in 58th place, out of 214 participants. This means almost 3/4 of the field did not make their time. I don't think these guys think the soaring tasks are a joke. Landings were worth about 7% of the total score, not 100%. What do you mean not a good example of a soaring contest in the USA? Visalia embodies what a USA soaring contest is all about! JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Jason Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:44:50 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] The meaning of Skeg Of course they don't have tasks like Visalia either, nor will they ever. Visalia is a landing contest, and in my opinion, while it is a great contest, it is not a good example of a soaring contest in the USA. The soaring tasks in general are a joke...the contest is a landing task 100%. And the task is strict/small because with 300 people you need something to break up the scores. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] 2003 Nats web pages
To All, The 2003 Nats Registration Status page and Frequency Allocation pages are now up at the LSF web site at: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2003/Register.html http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2003/FreqAlloc.html You can see there what channels are open, some are almost full and some are already closed. It would be wise to get your Nats entry forms in to insure that you get in on the channel that you want.The first batch of conformation letters have just gone out, you can also see what channel you are on by looking at the registration page. I will be updating these web pages every two weeks or so. Many thanks to Jack Strother for giving me the space to post these on the LSF site. Ed Franz 2003 LSF/AMA NATS Registrar RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Setup specs for Organic 2-m
At 05:29 PM 1/28/2003, Bill Malvey wrote: On 1/28/03 13:42, George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Organic weighs 28oz, I was flying it today practicing 2m for Nats. For the Love of GOD, I'm still trying to decide if I want to go back to Muncie for the NATS and you're PRACTICING already?? Oh well. Les pulled that message from the archive, I told him it was there... 8-) (I didn't know he was going to repost it but that is kool) The only thing I practiced today was driving my C5 home from work in 3 of fresh powder in Chicago rush hour traffic, talk about SCARY. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Setup specs for Organic 2-m
Les pulled that message from the archive, I told him it was there... 8-) (I didn't know he was going to repost it but that is kool) OK, I feel WAY better now ~} ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Sailaire CG
Jeff - If your psyche is such that you are capable of being in a frantic rush about anything you don't need a Sailaire. Just send it to me and forget you ever had it. happy trails - Rob Glover Hey all. I'm in a frantic rush to finish restoring/repairing a Sailaire for a contest this weekend. Looking for a starting place for the CG. Front of the spar or? Thanks! Jeff
Re: [RCSE] Setup specs for Organic 2-m
Whoops, that came from George not Les, oh well, I knew I posted about the Organic on RCSE before. I still like mine, it's on it's 3rd season and looks like brand new. (I only fly it at Nats, scored some wood with it last year in the 13 round contest! That was a lot of flying and those strong Nats winches with long lines allow you to sky a 2m like a SuperV, Duck or Organic.) 8-) At 06:00 PM 1/28/2003, James V. Bacus wrote: At 05:29 PM 1/28/2003, Bill Malvey wrote: On 1/28/03 13:42, George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Organic weighs 28oz, I was flying it today practicing 2m for Nats. For the Love of GOD, I'm still trying to decide if I want to go back to Muncie for the NATS and you're PRACTICING already?? Oh well. Les pulled that message from the archive, I told him it was there... 8-) (I didn't know he was going to repost it but that is kool) The only thing I practiced today was driving my C5 home from work in 3 of fresh powder in Chicago rush hour traffic, talk about SCARY. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Setup specs for Organic 2-m
The only thing I practiced today was driving my C5 home from work in 3 of fresh powder in Chicago rush hour traffic, talk about SCARY. Jim Sounds like you should put some skegs on those tires... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Setup specs for Organic 2-m
I guess some are luckier than others. Here in northern NJ I've seen temps in the 20's and 8 of snow No need for any skegs in snow. Almost guaranteed to stick your landings... that is if you can brave the cold Got a heat wave tonite. Supposed to be 12. Last nite 1. I can't wait till spring. Kurt -Original Message- From: Bill Malvey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [RCSE] Setup specs for Organic 2-m On 1/28/03 13:42, George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Organic weighs 28oz, I was flying it today practicing 2m for Nats. For the Love of GOD, I'm still trying to decide if I want to go back to Muncie for the NATS and you're PRACTICING already?? Oh well. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] FS: Graupner Winch
I have no more use for a winch that's only been used a couple of times. Asking price is $250 but I might entertain other offers, please see: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=threadid=84761 In case you need a turnaround, there is one posted for sale also (not by me): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=threadid=88155 Thanks for the bandwidth, Frank RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Sailaire CG
GOOD POINT!! The only kind of rush I'm ever in is to finish a plane so I can fly it (I only fly RES and hand launch). That said, where did I put that triple latte?!??! Back to covering, sanding, filling I must say, it is a refreshing change to not have to worry about adding too much weight by using solid color coverings, or epoxy or whatever. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: Sailaire CG Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:06:57 EST Jeff - If your psyche is such that you are capable of being in a frantic rush about anything you don't need a Sailaire. Just send it to me and forget you ever had it. happy trails - Rob Glover Hey all. I'm in a frantic rush to finish restoring/repairing a Sailaire for a contest this weekend. Looking for a starting place for the CG. Front of the spar or? Thanks! Jeff _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Question Broken Antenna on Eclipse
Whoops - it just came off. The little pins tore the softer antenna body will this work if I just stick it back in. Volmer peak in Berkeley is working this time of year and I don't want to miss too much. Where can I purchase a shorty or Base loaded one? Thanks jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Gws tiger moth motor
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:11:36PM -0800, Curt wrote: I am flying a GWS tiger moth using stock motor,7.2v 850 Mah Li-ion = battery(30 min flying time). The problem is I have to replace my motor = quite often. Do you have any idea or suggestion what kind of motor I can use to avoid = replacing the stock motor frequently. I still want a slow flying plane = to fly at the park. I think your best bet is to get an account on the Ezone (http://www.ezonemag.com/) and visit their discussion forums. A brushless is probably your best bet, but people might be able to suggest what to do to reduce the load (and therefore increase MTBF) on the motor you are currently using. RCSE folks probably intersect with Ezone folks a bit, but the Ezone is a community geared much more toward that sort of question. Now, if you were wanting to know how you might get your Tiger Moth to land within 10cm, I'm sure we could all suggest some great skeg designs that would both stop the plane dead and turn your featherweight parkflyer into razor-wielding menace to society, but I digress :) Here's a quick search link that returns some results: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/search.php?s=action=showresultssearchid=754625sortby=lastpostsortorder=descending -Peter -- Peter Jensen ... http://www.diff.net/peter ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] For Sale Fusion with radio
Fusion Open Class ship. Wingspan: 126, Wing area: 1045 sq. in., Airfoil: Wurts Special. Including Multiplex Profi 4000 Radio and 9 channel receiver, 8 Multiplex micro servos. I am flying it in Phoenix this weekend and it will be available after the last flight. Drop by to check it out, I'll be in the SWSA camp. $1,250 takes whole package. Save shipping, bring cash, take it home with you. Thermals, Pete Olsen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Image 2m for sale
I recently purchased this plane and have decided to sell it due to too many planes. Maple Leaf designs Image 2 meter. JR 341's in the fuse, Volz wing max on flaps and Micro Max on ailerons, 600 mah battery. This plane has been flown little but flies great. I flew it when the original owner had it. I'll bet this plane doesn't have 20 flights on it. I'll have it at the SW this weekend. $625 ready to roll. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ
Re: [RCSE] Speed 400 LMR Contests
Chip, Here in Spokane, WA, members of the Inland Empire Soaring Society are very excited about participating in a S400 LMR contest, ever since one of our club members (Guy Russo) won the national event. Admittedly, one motivation is to see if we can finally find a way to beat Guy at SOMETHING, ANYTHING. We usually claim he wins because he is flying the best and latest models (I saw him get a precision 9 minutes in cloudy, dead air with his new Sharon Pro, which he says should be named unfair advantage (hope I haven't given away too much here, Guy)). As you say, S400 LMR airplanes can be had inexpensively, and a contest can be run with minimal equipment. We have at least 10 members with S400 models on order, under construction, or ready to go. We are planning on an 8 cell format. Dave Moore RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Smoke systems for gliders You wanna talk about dumb?
Steve, YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! The spot this footage was filmed is a virtual tinder box! That dry SF fog is known world wide for drying the entire coastline out. That's why the Redwoods grow there so well don't you know. They thrive in arid conditions. I'm surprised we don't have several varieties of Cactus growing next to the Ferns that do so well in the area. At the very least it would have scorched the coast line from Bodega Bay down to Point Sur! Think of all the Barbecued Venison that would have become the by-product. Yep, and it would probably have burned the Golden Gate Bridge down to the high tide line too. Hundreds of thousands commuter's would have been marooned on one side or the other. The Ferry lines would have become instant, overnight and extremely profitable enterprises. No further need to be subsidized by the government. Dear Gents of RCSE, Steve is about as informed about the Northern California coastline as I am about wind conditions in Winnemucca. This is a prime example of male Bovine excrement. Good job Steve, been to any good lynching parties lately? Cliff Lindgren - Original Message - From: Steven Bixby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] smoke systems for gliders Which, unfortunately, goes against AMA regulations and is a fire hazard to boot. The sequence in Endless Lift, while very cool to watch, is in my opinion a dumb thing to have done. The SF coast where this sequence was filmed is a dry, inaccessible area. If the plan had crashed before the smoke system was out, it could have started a forest fire that would have destroyed a wildlife preserve and much of the coastline. Just my opinion, however. - Original Message - From: John Derstine To: Ed Berris Cc: RCSE Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] smoke systems for gliders I have smoke on my 1/2 scaleSwift. class c fireworks smoke flares, plus basically a servo actuated model rocket ignition in the fuse and wing powered by a 9 volt battery on a micro switch. John D. Endless Mountain Models [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/rand.htm -Original Message- From: Ed Berris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] smoke systems for gliders The lift ticket video shows smoke coming from the wing tips of a couple of the models in the video. How is this created? (don't tell me by lighting my wing tips on fire) Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Smoke systems for gliders You wanna talk about dumb?
To add to what some of you have already said one of the shots was taken on Eaglebutte, had this ignited we would have lost that site forever. It is prohibited to have any pyrotechnics on Eaglebutte as well as smoking outside of the vehicles ( I know pretty harsh but it's for safety) . This has been a center of conversation many times in our meetings. This is a privately owned hill and we have to be very careful how we use that site. For those of you that haven't been to Eaglebutte in sometime they are rapidly building homes in and around the area and it would take only a second for flames to hit the houses from the top of the slope. Not good. Just wanted to put my $.02 in. Thanks and please don't flame Eagle or me for that matter to making comment. Later--Glenn W.Tri-Cities, WaDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
