[RCSE] Winch line tension
For those who know a lot more than me I have a question. Under ideal circumstances what is the best line tension one should use to launch a sailplane? That is, is there a formula I can employ to calculate line tension needed to launch a sailplane knowing such things as its mass, wing span, wing loading, method of construction (built up, composite, hollow) and any other parameters such as type of line (stretch , non stretch, twisted or braided, monofilament ) etc. The reason I ask is because I have just finished building a winch in which I can adjust the output tension in the line without having to pulse the foot switch. Line tension can be changed easily and quickly to accomodate various planes. TIA Andrew RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday
I told you so. Still not sure about the sunspots, though. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Jerry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Terry Mickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jerry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dean Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Scott Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Terry Mickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Reed (Home) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DJ Buell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bob Claar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Gee [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stewart Tittle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Brigaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ron McElliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roger Hebner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday Hi all, If you will remember last week I sent out a notice about flying here in the valley, well today an incident happened, Randy's friend Bruce was ask very nicely to stop flying his electric powered wing type glider, by none other the US Secret Service. So they do have the ability to seek us out. Must have been by GPS. President Bush spoke here in Medford/Central Point, OR tonight, landed about 3:25 PM this afternoon. I'm no sure what time Bruce was flying, but he was ask to land and not fly the rest of the day. At least he was not shot down by the unknown. Jerry Miller, SOSS At 07:49 PM 10/11/2004, Terry Mickle wrote: Flying sailplanes earlier before 7:00 sounds like a good idea. Why don't I bring my winch and retriever though. Don't know any reason not to use retriever. We could use it after dark as well with some nite-lights but I would prefer not to - the kids wouldn't have anything to do and it would be a bit too dangerous with everyone running around. Jerry: are you bringing the hi-start? What time should I show up with winch/retriever? 5:30 or so? It takes about 20 minutes to unload and setup but I don't know what time the regulars at the field leave. Terry Dean Gradwell wrote: Dean to DJ, Let me bring the BBQ this time as I have a very portable unit. Also is it possible to fly gliders before 7:00? If so I'll bring a winch. Dean RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday
Was he on the president's frequency? -Original Message- From: Jerry Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:09 PM To: Terry Mickle; Jerry Miller; Dean Gradwell; Scott Gradwell; Terry Mickle; Mike Reed (Home); DJ Buell; John Page; Bob Claar; Mike Gee; Stewart Tittle; Paul Gradwell; Paul Brigaerts; Ron McElliott; James Amador; Roger Hebner; Michael Jordan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday Hi all, If you will remember last week I sent out a notice about flying here in the valley, well today an incident happened, Randy's friend Bruce was ask very nicely to stop flying his electric powered wing type glider, by none other the US Secret Service. So they do have the ability to seek us out. Must have been by GPS. President Bush spoke here in Medford/Central Point, OR tonight, landed about 3:25 PM this afternoon. I'm no sure what time Bruce was flying, but he was ask to land and not fly the rest of the day. At least he was not shot down by the unknown. Jerry Miller, SOSS This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday
Mark, Must have been. Jerry At 07:34 AM 10/15/2004, Howard Mark wrote: Was he on the president's frequency? -Original Message- From: Jerry Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:09 PM To: Terry Mickle; Jerry Miller; Dean Gradwell; Scott Gradwell; Terry Mickle; Mike Reed (Home); DJ Buell; John Page; Bob Claar; Mike Gee; Stewart Tittle; Paul Gradwell; Paul Brigaerts; Ron McElliott; James Amador; Roger Hebner; Michael Jordan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday Hi all, If you will remember last week I sent out a notice about flying here in the valley, well today an incident happened, Randy's friend Bruce was ask very nicely to stop flying his electric powered wing type glider, by none other the US Secret Service. So they do have the ability to seek us out. Must have been by GPS. President Bush spoke here in Medford/Central Point, OR tonight, landed about 3:25 PM this afternoon. I'm no sure what time Bruce was flying, but he was ask to land and not fly the rest of the day. At least he was not shot down by the unknown. Jerry Miller, SOSS This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Monster Rocket
I was walking out of WalMart yesterday and I noticed a picture of a rocket on a flyer by the exit. The caption read MONSTER ROCKET It was on the recall board. Who'd a thunkit? (Must have been a Lockheed product) Mark This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Winch line tension
Oh. Tell us how you did this? Andrew Famiglietti wrote: For those who know a lot more than me I have a question. Under ideal circumstances what is the best line tension one should use to launch a sailplane? That is, is there a formula I can employ to calculate line tension needed to launch a sailplane knowing such things as its mass, wing span, wing loading, method of construction (built up, composite, hollow) and any other parameters such as type of line (stretch , non stretch, twisted or braided, monofilament ) etc. The reason I ask is because I have just finished building a winch in which I can adjust the output tension in the line without having to pulse the foot switch. Line tension can be changed easily and quickly to accomodate various planes. TIA Andrew RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Flying Early Thursday
asked very nicely to stop flying his electric powered wing type glider, by the US Secret Service. Hey at least they asked nicely. I'm guessing they ask simply because it makes their job simpler. Anything in the air is bad. Exceptions just muddy the waters. Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Flying Early Thursday
I used to fly at a dam by Wright Patt AFB, and the procedure here is the Feds would clear that park out before AF-1 / the President would come in. Flying definitely would be stopped, but the whole park / dam would be cleared before a landing. Honestly, I can't blame anyone for that - If the winds are good, I can feel salty about it, but I really can't blame them for security concerns. B. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] So Cal this w/e
Looks like I'll be spending this w/e in So Cal. Any contests anywhere? Bring your singles boys... Daryl needs a new Lancair ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Looking for a gently used Tsunami
Good afternoon, In preparation for next years F3J TS, I am looking for a used Tsunami to add to my fleet. Almost had one, but the deal fell through at the last minute. Anyone out there have a Tsunami they may not fly very often that they would be willing to part with for a reasonable fee? Many thanks, Josh. Phone Number: (757)864-1159 Cell Number: (757)870-6720 Fax Number: (757)864-8857 Postal Address: MS 152, NASA LaRC, Hampton, Va., 23681 Street Address: 24 West Taylor St., B1268A, Room 2146 NOTE: New e-mail address going into effect in the near future will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Practice F3f at Los Banos the 4th Sunday
After seeing my name at the bottom of the results again, I can clearly see that flying in 2+ events a year is not enough. One step forward would be to have a practice day that does not interfere with the 2nd sunday Norcal f3f, or the 3rd sunday foamy MOM races.This is the proposal, on the 4th Sunday of the month several of the central cal fliers meet up at banos and practice, we would setup some crude turn markers, use whistles for turn indicators, and a stop watch for time. This setup will not be an exact, but it will show progress or lack of progress.It would be best if every body brought their own whistles, otherwise you would be sharing saliva with who knows. I want to keep this very simple in equip and attitude. I beleave F3f took off origanaly because of its simplicity, no detailed rules.Above I did say Central cal fliers but of course everybody is invited to practice and get better. SO if you are tired of keeping me company at the bottom of the results sheet or just need practice landing your plane while you knees are shaking, the 4th sunday is for you.If interested please e-mail me or the list with your thoughts and this practice day will evolve into a day that will meet all of our needs.jj
[RCSE] Release Wax?
I know this went around a while ago but I've lost the files. I'm looking forsuggestions for a release wax for vac bagging and/or molding. Out here in the boonies it takes a while to get the real stuff and my last tub went dry before I could use it up. I recall suggestions for Mother's or Meguiar's paste wax with carnauba. Both versions at the local O'Reilly's have a cleaning compound. Is that OK? I should know by tomorrow when I pop open this bag but I'm still curious about any comments. Tried the liquid Meguiar's with carnauba (no cleaning compound) and it didn't work too well. That's about what we have locally. Dr. Zog didn't make it this far inland. We don't have PVA in the local weed 'n feed. TIA, - Dave R
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a gently used Tsunami
Would you be interested in a Tsunami Super Lite? This is a back-up to the F3J Worlds... Quoting Louis J. Glaab [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good afternoon, In preparation for next years F3J TS, I am looking for a used Tsunami to add to my fleet. Almost had one, but the deal fell through at the last minute. Anyone out there have a Tsunami they may not fly very often that they would be willing to part with for a reasonable fee? Many thanks, Josh. Phone Number: (757)864-1159 Cell Number: (757)870-6720 Fax Number: (757)864-8857 Postal Address: MS 152, NASA LaRC, Hampton, Va., 23681 Street Address: 24 West Taylor St., B1268A, Room 2146 NOTE: New e-mail address going into effect in the near future will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e
A new Lancair! I'm afraid to ask... What happen to the old one? At 10:43 AM 10/15/2004, Daryl Perkins wrote: Looks like I'll be spending this w/e in So Cal. Any contests anywhere? Bring your singles boys... Daryl needs a new Lancair ;-) D RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e
Looks like I'll be spending this w/e in So Cal. Any contests anywhere? Bring your singles boys... Daryl needs a new Lancair ;-) D SSJSS in Bakersfield, CA has a small contest tomorrow at the Earl Warren JHS site. I can email you directions if you're interested. It starts at 10 AM and we generally have 5 rounds.George Gillburg Bakersfield, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Cumberland Soar for Fun 2003
Announcing the 38th Annual SOAR for FUN on scenic Mount Knobbly in West Virginia near Cumberland, MD on 6-7 Nov 2004. Two fun-filled days of camaraderie and scenery that only mountain-top soaring in the Autumn can bring you! (weather permitting!) All are welcome, AMA required for pilots. Usually, both slope and thermal conditions are experienced. Electric self-launching/flying OK, wet power aircraft for piggy-back or aerotow launching permitted. DUE TO LOCAL PAGER ACTIVITY, USE OF CH 23, 24, 31 32 NOT RECOMMENDED!! HQ Motel is Braddock Best Western Motor Inn, La Vale, MD. Ph 1-800-296-6006, ask for Group reservations, identify yourself as attending the Soar for Fun for discount. Other motels: Super 8 1-800-8000 local (301) 729-6265 Scottish Inn (301) 729-2880 Diplomat Motel (301) 729-2311 Continental Motor Inn (301) 729-2201 Oak Tree Inn (301) 729-6700 No food concession at the field. As in the past, edible and potable contributions to the "free lunch" table are welcome! (usually plenty to eat!) Flyer/map available on request. in pdf (adobe acrobat reader) format as e-mail atch, or send snailmail address for hard copy GOOD LIFT! Skip Schow AMA 143, LSF 166(V #46) Vienna, VA
Re: [RCSE] Release Wax?
http://skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/moldrelease/moldrelease.html Check out my web site under accessories. You'll find a compound listed that we think is the best. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: [RCSE] Release Wax? I know this went around a while ago but I've lost the files. I'm looking forsuggestions for a release wax for vac bagging and/or molding. Out here in the boonies it takes a while to get the real stuff and my last tub went dry before I could use it up. I recall suggestions for Mother's or Meguiar's paste wax with carnauba. Both versions at the local O'Reilly's have a cleaning compound. Is that OK? I should know by tomorrow when I pop open this bag but I'm still curious about any comments. Tried the liquid Meguiar's with carnauba (no cleaning compound) and it didn't work too well. That's about what we have locally. Dr. Zog didn't make it this far inland. We don't have PVA in the local weed 'n feed. TIA, - Dave R
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair...
OK, I've gotten a couple of emails like this. Nothing happened to the old Lancair. It's for sale should any of you be interested. And it's gorgeous, and perfect... only flown by a little old ladychurch... sundays... you know the deal. I am in simply in search of a faster plane. We're thinking turbine Lancair IV-P. Pricey - send money... care of daryl needs a new plane fund. I didn't dork, spank, crash, ding, damage, dent, or even lightly bruise the airframe ;-) Thanks for your concern, D ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Practice F3f at Los Banos the 4th Sunday
How about having practice days on a Saturday? As a matter of fact, I never understood why more contests arent held on Saturdays. I know the SVSS club has most of their monthly stuff on Saturdays, and it seems to work good for them. I personally am not totally obsessed by RC glider flying. I like it but also like other stuff like watching a football game now and then,etc.For me, Sundays are also kind of a "sleep in" read the newspaper day(yes, I know you can read the news, sports, etc on the net, butI just like theexperience of an old fashioned newspaper). Also, its kind of a drag to have to come home late Sunday from a contest knowing the next day is MONDAY! Lets say you do well at a contest/practice Saturday, you have all day Sunday to "bask in the glow" of your achievement. Going in to work, being hammerred by all the usual Monday morning work associated"stuff" kinda ruins your high. Ispenta decent amount of money, boughtseveral F3F ships, a Acacia3, a Wizard Compact, and a carbon Trinity.I even was and still may buy my ownF3f timing set up from the UK to have available at a moments notice - in case the wind looked good somewhere on a non event weekend. I tried attending several F3F races this past year only for them to be no flies due to poor wind conditions. Eventually, I kinda gave up on it. I sold the Wiz, but still have the other two racers and would still like to someday try a F3F event, practice or otherwise. Keep me posted. Thanks, Walter -Original Message-From: Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:54 AMSubject: [RCSE] Practice F3f at Los Banos the 4th Sunday After seeing my name at the bottom of the results again, I can clearly see that flying in 2+ events a year is not enough. One step forward would be to have a practice day that does not interfere with the 2nd sunday Norcal f3f, or the 3rd sunday foamy MOM races.This is the proposal, on the 4th Sunday of the month several of the central cal fliers meet up at banos and practice, we would setup some crude turn markers, use whistles for turn indicators, and a stop watch for time. This setup will not be an exact, but it will show progress or lack of progress.It would be best if every body brought their own whistles, otherwise you would be sharing saliva with who knows. I want to keep this very simple in equip and attitude. I beleave F3f took off origanaly because of its simplicity, no detailed rules.Above I did say Central cal fliers but of course everybody is invited to practice and get better. SO if you are tired of keeping me company at the bottom of the results sheet or just need practice landing your plane while you knees are shaking, the 4th sunday is for you.If interested please e-mail me or the list with your thoughts and this practice day will evolve into a day that will meet all of our needs.jj
Re: [RCSE] Cumberland Soar for Fun 2003
DUE TO LOCAL PAGER ACTIVITY, USE OF CH 23, 24, 31 32 NOT RECOMMENDED!! Not recommended, but allowed??? Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] trainer cord use...
Can anyone give me the quick idiot's guide to using a trainer cord? Do you have to trim both radios to match, do they both need all the same mixing set up (eg, elevon, etc)? Is it considered safer to pull the crystal from the trainer box? He's planning on using his regular Hitec radio and an older Flash that he has lying around. Brother is trying to get my nephew flying, just want to do my part to help them out. Thanks, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Release Wax?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for suggestions for a release wax for vac bagging and/or molding. Out here in the boonies it takes a while to get the real stuff and my last tub went dry before I could use it up. For Vac bagging I just use carnauba paste wax from the auto parts store. I used to use Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #26. When that brand became suddenly unavailable in my local stores I just grabbed a can of Mothers California Gold. Both of these are just yellow carnauba paste wax in a can. They do not mention cleaning compounds on the label. The only reason I can think of for using something more exoctic than carnauba wax for Vac bagging is if you want to have an easier time painting the mylars. If you use carnauba wax on the mylars then you will also have to use a very specific and carefull technique when you paint the mylars to avoid fisheyes (in the paint). If you use Dolphin wax; http://www.superminnow.com/hmracing/racing/about.html you can use a more careless painting technique and even use slower drying (slower than Krylon) paint without fisheye problems. The down side of Dolphin wax is that it is a nuisance to get, is more expensive, is harder to buff if you let it try too much and will dry up if you don't keep it in a good airtight container. To buy Dolphin wax, go to the link above. You won't find it listed on that site but must email Harold and ask for it. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair...
Daryl, forget the old Lancairs. Need to spend more money-just buy a restored old P51 . Now that would be BAD- and possible satiate your need for higher performance. Or hey, how about a old F86 or Russian Mig from the Korean war era. Or better yet, why not go to one of the higher performance private jets. I hear some of them are clost to flying supersonic. Walter -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair... OK, I've gotten a couple of emails like this. Nothing happened to the old Lancair. It's for sale should any of you be interested. And it's gorgeous, and perfect... only flown by a little old ladychurch... sundays... you know the deal. I am in simply in search of a faster plane. We're thinking turbine Lancair IV-P. Pricey - send money... care of daryl needs a new plane fund. I didn't dork, spank, crash, ding, damage, dent, or even lightly bruise the airframe ;-) Thanks for your concern, D ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] trainer cord use...
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 02:50:54PM -0400, Douglas, Brent wrote: | Can anyone give me the quick idiot's guide to using a trainer cord? Do | you have to trim both radios to match Yes. You do this by holding both transmitters and switching back and forth between transmitters and making adjustments until nothing changes when you switch. | do they both need all the same mixing set up (eg, elevon, etc)? Yes, unless you've got a high end `master' radio which can decode the slave signal then apply it's mixes to it. The Futaba 9C can do it, and I don't think many other radios can (but I can't be sure.) If your radio isn't one that can do this, you just need to make sure that the controls do the same things on both radios. | Is it considered safer to pull the crystal from the trainer box? Yes, though that's not really needed. I don't know about Hitec, but with Futaba you generally don't even turn the buddy box on. If you do have to turn the buddy box on, I'd suggest removing the crystal or module just to be safe, though they should turn off the transmitter on their own. | He's planning on using his regular Hitec radio and an older Flash that | he has lying around. Just make sure that the controls are the same for master and slave before you fly :) -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]For adult education nothing beats children. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] F/S Evo Synith
Selling an almost new Evo 9 channel synith transmitter, charger, and Becker antenna. Asking $425 plus shipping. Thanks Chuck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e
A new Lancair! I'm afraid to ask... What happen to the old one? It was WAY too slow so he's probably trying to shoehorn a turbine in one! Porter At 10:43 AM 10/15/2004, Daryl Perkins wrote: Looks like I'll be spending this w/e in So Cal. Any contests anywhere? Bring your singles boys... Daryl needs a new Lancair ;-) D RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] trainer cord use...
On Airtronics radios, the trainer cord only allows the slave radio's sticks to operate the airplane - all trim and mixes remain in the master, and cannot be adjusted from the slave. The slave is not turned on.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair...
Yea, sure. But how does it handle the far turn when fully ballasted for slope racing? Bill DelHagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair... Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:19:37 -0700 (PDT) OK, I've gotten a couple of emails like this. Nothing happened to the old Lancair. It's for sale should any of you be interested. And it's gorgeous, and perfect... only flown by a little old ladychurch... sundays... you know the deal. I am in simply in search of a faster plane. We're thinking turbine Lancair IV-P. Pricey - send money... care of daryl needs a new plane fund. I didn't dork, spank, crash, ding, damage, dent, or even lightly bruise the airframe ;-) Thanks for your concern, D ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair...
Is this just me, or doesn't this plane look like a scaled up Speed 400 racer? http://www.lancair-kits.com/IV_images/IV_2_lrg.jpg Kit is just $109,000 for the pressurized version. 330 mph. That'll work. Plus you get the cool turned up winglets. They make a difference. Your stall speed goes from 75 to 73 mph :-) JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:19:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair... OK, I've gotten a couple of emails like this. Nothing happened to the old Lancair. It's for sale should any of you be interested. And it's gorgeous, and perfect... only flown by a little old ladychurch... sundays... you know the deal. I am in simply in search of a faster plane. We're thinking turbine Lancair IV-P. Pricey - send money... care of daryl needs a new plane fund. I didn't dork, spank, crash, ding, damage, dent, or even lightly bruise the airframe ;-) Thanks for your concern, D ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF Website has moved
The website is up on the new ISP and the DNS entries have been changed. Should you try and use the email features on the website, mails may not work correctly until after the weekend after the DNS entries have propogated across the ether ... Thanks for your patience. = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e
Daryl-- We're having our SWSA annual Night Fly/Potluck on Saturday at 4:30 PM. Flying begins at dusk with the longest two flights winning and landings are optional.. Dan - Original Message - From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:43 AM Subject: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e Looks like I'll be spending this w/e in So Cal. Any contests anywhere? Bring your singles boys... Daryl needs a new Lancair ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair...
I won't be picky. Any one of the 4 would work just fine for me. :-) http://www.lancair-kits.com/ Just have to figure out how to afford the fuel. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Burt Rutan on Science Channel Tonight
David Schat wrote: jaffee wrote: I don't want to diminish anything Rutan has done... I'm no Rocket Scientist but don't orbital craft fire the motors in reverse to slow them down for re-entry? Couldn't the craft fire it's motor a bit longer and at full power to increase the decent angle to one that might permit the feather recovery? They do, but I believe they do a burn that's just long enough to get their orbit to decay so that they start dropping into to the atmosphere. The shuttle does this, but it still re-enters at Mach 25. I suppose in theory you could do a burn long enough to drop out of orbit like a rock, but it would probably take a lot of fuel (enough so that I assume it's not practical). RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] A critical note on trainer cord use...
One critical note on teaching technique when using a trainer cord: If effective learning is the goal, it's VITAL that the teacher always use consistent verbal cues when giving control to the student, but even MORE importantly when TAKING BACK control from the student. As the teacher, if you're trying to let the student fly to their limit, this can be hard to remember to do, since you'll tend to concentrate on taking over just in time to fly the rescue. But especially when 'flying the rescue' you must give a clear verbal cue that is timed exactly with your moment of takeover. WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT? Because for the student there is essentially NO other indication that you have taken over control. They may continue to move the stick and think they are getting the results that in fact you are getting for them. This perception: thinking they were in control when they weren't is corrosive to the learning process. The student can too easily perceive that they have flown a brilliant save, only LATER to find out that it was you doing the saving and not them. This leaves the student with the task of trying to de-program what they thought was a success. When exactly did you take over? Did they fly part of the save, but not the end of it? would the moves they made even have been helpful? Who knows?. MUCH easier if they just get a clear cue at the moment that their own stick motions 'no longer count'. Anything that you both agree on is fine, and saying anything is better than nothing. but the clearest and quickest words the instructor might use are probably: YOURS! when giving control over to the student and MINE! at the exact moment of taking control back If you're like me, you'll find it's a non trivial task as a teacher to be completely consistent with this, but it's very important to try. Hope this is helpful. Lift, Scobie at Liftworx www.liftworx.com PS: The necessity for this rather fussy discipline in using a trainer cord could be completely eliminated if the manufacturer would simply couple a BEEP sound to the pressing and releasing of the trainer button/switch. Are there any brands that have figured this out? I'm sure a good electrics guy could probably add that in. A little beyond me, but I'm going to consider asking someone to do it for me. I do a lot of two-box training. Can anyone give me the quick idiot's guide to using a trainer cord? Do you have to trim both radios to match, do they both need all the same mixing set up (eg, elevon, etc)? Is it considered safer to pull the crystal from the trainer box? He's planning on using his regular Hitec radio and an older Flash that he has lying around. Brother is trying to get my nephew flying, just want to do my part to help them out. Thanks, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair...
Daryl! Is 600+ mi/h fast enough for you? probably you can have it for a price of your old Lancair YES IT IS FULLY MOLDED http://marganski.com.pl/html/A-ENG/ISKRAII-TECHNICALDATA.htm Sorry just for two people but you can save on fuel Zb.Michalczyk The Soaring Little Fleet of Poland http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/ e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair... OK, I've gotten a couple of emails like this. Nothing happened to the old Lancair. It's for sale should any of you be interested. And it's gorgeous, and perfect... only flown by a little old ladychurch... sundays... you know the deal. I am in simply in search of a faster plane. We're thinking turbine Lancair IV-P. Pricey - send money... care of daryl needs a new plane fund. I didn't dork, spank, crash, ding, damage, dent, or even lightly bruise the airframe ;-) Thanks for your concern, D ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e - Lancair...
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zb.Michalczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://marganski.com.pl/html/A-ENG/ISKRAII-TECHNICALDATA.htm I wanna model! This thing is gorgeous, a jet powered Fox. tim -- Tim Rowledge, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://sumeru.stanford.edu/tim Any programming language is at its best before it is implemented and used. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Dreamcatcher Hobbies..
According to the website, Dreamcatcher is closing January 1, 2005. If you want anything from them, you probably should see about getting it on order. Hopefully, any transactions through the end of the year will be smooth. Too bad, another sailplane vendor closing the doors. EJ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] AF1
I am truly amazed how easily you boys are willing to surrender your freedom in the name of security. What possible security are we talking about. Can your toy do any damage to his plane? Can you even reach it? Are you in his flight path or even within miles of it? Can you carry anything as a payload worth the effort to be reasonably able to pose a threat? Is anything and every thing some nitwit in Washington dreams up now a threat to real aircraft? (I had a conversation with a buffoon from the FAA who flew model planes as a child and understood just how dangerous they were. That was his rational for closing a field that had been used for years for model flying). There comes a time when you have to pull your head out and just say enough is enough, this is just too stupid to put up with anymore. There are millions of Moslems out there that hate and detest infidels and nobody will ever be 100% safe from them all. Yes, I know not all Moslems are terrorists but it seems a pretty good bet that nearly all the latest crop of terrorists have been Moslems. It's a pretty sure bet that we can't stop them all and that they have also been here all along so isn't it time to just face reality and concede a little danger is inevitable? We have to be smarter than them not dumber. Smart precautions not stupid ones need to be implemented. We have to trust each other a little more and be willing to accept responsibility and not just dumbly hand it over to unqualified people just because they are in positions of authority. Now that the secret service has decided to ask nicely for you to stop playing with your plastic toy plane instead of shooting you down it's all OK is it? For the record, there is no such thing as asking nicely! The implied power and oppression of the government is behind them. Refuse and they will carry it to whatever end they can justify. These tactics can be implemented only when out of the of public scrutiny. Most cannot stand the light of day. Publicize them and they melt away. Ridicule is a powerful tool when applied selectively, and I mean by name, down to the local level. Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to assess the threat level of a model plane as opposed to a missile and take the appropriate action. Each time they get away with it another precedent is set and more freedom is eroded away. On a certain level I could almost understand the hysteria when they closed the 30 mile circle around Salt Lake City airport during the Olympics. It being right after 911 and so nearly everyone went along with it but it set the precedent. Now, little by little, we are handing the security types our freedom. Is it because of some misguided sense of duty or is it just plan out and out fear. I'm sorry, but I cannot sit quietly by and watch it go down the toilet. I did not spend 24 years of my life protecting this country to see it handed away by liberal yuppies so afraid to loose their little area of interest that they are willing to give up mine for what they perceive as security. You eat the elephant one little bite at a time and you surrender your freedoms the same way. It worked in Germany, Russia, China, Cuba, England, Australia and every other country that needed more security than freedom. Can't happen here? You had better take a look at what homeland security has already cost you. Motherland and Fatherland were already in use, it seems. Maybe we really are a Nation of Cowards as the book title suggests. Dennis Karoleski, NH, USA Sorry about the length but not the content. 8-( RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] FS:JR 9303
First I'd like to thank the great folks at Horizon/JR for donating several 9303 (3 I think) to the Visalia Fall Festival. John Diniz is a fun guy and will be a force to reconned with in the soaring world. Finally after several years and a few hundred dollars I won something significant at the infamous Visalia raffle, a JR9303. I'm a Futaba flier and it is not compatible with anything I own. Now I know that donors hate to see raffle prizes show up for sale but I'm going to do something that will benefit our soaring teams. Here is the deal. The 9303 is the soaring version with the tranny, 770 receiver, 3 DS368 servos, charger, battery, accessories. The cheapest I've seen this advertised is $575. I'm going to offer it for $550 and I will donate $25 to the F3B team and $25 to the F3J team. I'll pay the shipping in the US. I'm going to be out of town till Sunday night but will check email in the morning before I leave. Again, thanks to JR for the generous donations and to all donors for that matter. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ
[RCSE] 9303 with an electric
Has anyone been able to actuate an electric motor using a switch with the XP9303? (The plane has 6 servos) I'd like to know how. TIA - Steve S. (415) 456-5312 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Spoilers
I need a set of Multiplex 2 tier cascading spoilers that are 350 mm long. Any help will be appreciated. STAN STAN KOCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Flying Early Thursday
So they do have the ability to seek us out. Must have been by GPS. (Jerry Miller) Just ordinary direction finding, not GPS. (Or maybe they just saw you.) We could use their services at our field. I'd like to think that the security people were human and after the mid-Ohio debacle they realized that this was just the wrong thing to do -- asking nicely usually gets the desired results. I still think they're overreacting, small R/C planes are no more of a problem than birds (less -- no residue) and I just can't see the Secret Service succeeding in grounding birds for the duration of a Presidential visit. (Random thought -- I wonder if the Secret Service realize that raptors can be trained and that some of the places where this sport is very popular include Iran and Pakistan.) Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e
Thouand Oaks has a club contest. Don't expect to win money. (Don't expect to win...you never know who you might be flying against.) You could run through the list of clubs to see if there's anything else to your taste. Check the links on www.sc-2.org. Martin Usher. - Original Message - From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:43 AM Subject: [RCSE] So Cal this w/e Looks like I'll be spending this w/e in So Cal. Any contests anywhere? Bring your singles boys... Daryl needs a new Lancair ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
