Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
Hi All Removing old monokote/solarfilm/ultracoat colo(u)r from balsa is fairly easy. Using a covering iron, iron some paper kitchen towel down on to the mess and remove after a few seconds while still warm - the coloured adhesive comes away easily with the tissue and can be discarded. Applying any solvents initially just makes the mess a lot harder to clean. If the kitchen roll doesn't remove it all, then that's the time to resort to the alcohol rub :-)) Hope this helps Cheers Neil PS Failng that, a very coarse wirebrush fitted to your electric drill will remove it rapidly :-)) ___ Neil D. Gillies Tel: +44 (0)1383-823489 iGull Technologies Mobile: +44 (0)771-4330793 11 River View [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dalgety Bay, Fife http://www.igull.co.uk Scotland KY11 9YE http://www.sea-gull.demon.co.uk RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Hobby Horse/Bruce Herider
About six years ago I placed a large order with them, including a JR 8103 radio. I asked the wife to ship the immediately available portion of the order early in a separate shipment. She agreed and assured me there would be no extra charge. When the first shipment arrived there was a $5.00 shipping charge on the invoice. I telephoned Jim about this and was met with a torrent of vitriol I still can't believe all these years later. I was a liar, his wife had made no such assurance, etc. The really strange part of this - at that time, this outfit had a policy of free shipping for orders over $100. Hobby Horse? More like the south side of the genuine article! Russ Hall Brian Smith wrote: Re: [RCSE] Any experience with Hobby Horse? I'm glad to hear that people are having good experiences with Hobby Horse. Several years ago I was shopping for a JR TX Module. Since Hobby Horse was a JR dealer, but didn't have the module listed in their magazine ad, I called on their toll free line to get a price. Could have used e-mail, but I wanted a price quickly,and didn't want to eat up any savings with long distance phone charges. Instead of getting a price, I received a lecture about how I was not to use their toll free line for anything but ordersthe lecture probably taking almost as much time as it would have to have given me a price. I guess that's their policy---some dealers invite you to call for price.This experience stuck with me and I never gave them another chance, and probably never will. Bruce Herider RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
Thanks for all the ideas. I pulled out the monokote iron and a dirty covering sock, and about 15 minutes later all the remaining covering was in little, burnt balls on the floor. I just kept going back and forth over the covering on fairly high heat; it would heat up, roll up, and fall off - very slick. You all saved me hours with an Exacto - very much appreciated. Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Fiss Alpine Soaring Event
Posted for Gerd Holzner by JD: --- 10 years Flying Circus, the International Gliderfestival in Fiss/Tirol. (Austria) RC-pilots from all over the world will come together on July 21. to 24.2005 in Fiss, the pictorial village on the sunny plateau of Tirol, in order to celebrate the 10-years anniversary. The anniversary of a meeting, which got world-wide interest like no second alone by the location. Fiss became a Mekka for the alpine model pilots! On Europe´s highest model airfield... on 2500 m over sea level! The mountain is named Schönjöchl, and offers big thermals apart from a fantastic panorama ... 1000 m over the locality Fiss! You will see there numerous scale gliders, the world best manufacturers show their novelties, and everything that has wings will go to be flown ... The meeting is open for all, beginners, progressings, and professionals. Free flying for all is called the slogan. Beside the flying at the slope there are numerous actions, which will provide for alternation and maintenance. Apart from the nocturnal water flight competition for electrical models in Ladis on the village pond there will happen in the night a contest at the valley station near the Hexenalm: The pilots have to master most difficult tasks with their small electrical models under the rejoicing of the spectators. Only the best one wins? No, all, who are daring enough to make the fun will win! An open air concert and fireworks will end the happening this night. Celebrate with us ! Everyone, who was not ever there, missed something! Now the opportunity is... make a thick mark in your calendar, make your vacation reservation, and drive to Fiss : on July 21. - 24. 2005. Room reservation under www.fiss.at or Best accommodation in Austria - check Special Interest - and Events Organizer: TVB Fiss www.fiss.at www.serfaus-fiss-ladis.at/sommer02/index.htm The program: www.flying-circus.de www.flying-circus.de/html/fiss.html To make you hot, watch this video-clip: http://www.flying-circus.de/fiss2004.mpg by Enzo dé Nicolo Organization: Gerd Holzner, Circus Director Bear way 19, D-71296 home home Tel. +49 (0) 7033-3069912 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Its 2 meter time! Organics finally arriving at Kennedy Composites
Finally! I spoke with Barry and he said that he is expecting the 2m saiplane version and the 2.5 electric version to arrive next week. Blaster orders are close to being caught up, don't get caught on another waiting list for an Organic. If you didn't see the review in March issue of Quiet Flyer magazine or know the Organic, it is arguably the nicest and toughest competition 2m out there. Mine has hundreds of flying hours on it and I have recovered it a few times and too many repairs (shouldn't have DS'd it so much I guess, slope 'landings' are hard on an open bay construction) so I decided it was time to get a new one. Here's the contact info with some really nice photos too. Gordy http://www.kennedycomposites.com/ORGANIC 2 SP Specifications: Wingspan - 78.75 in. (2M) Wingarea - 643 sq. in.Airfoil - MH32 Empty weight - 19.4 oz Flying weight - 35 oz Wing loading - 7.8 oz./sq. ft.Surface controls - Ailerons, Flaps, Rudder, Elevator
[RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Harley, before you buy 9303 sailplane version take a look at the airplane version. I believe the software is the same but I like the switch setup on the upper left panel for the airplane version. more flexability with the 3 position switch that comes with the airplane setup. I know you said you didn't want to be bothered with switches right now, but down the road maybe. I use that switch to get three flight modes after launching. Speed, cruise and thermal. JR will give you all three manuals for the 9303 if you request them. Regards. Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Dave, Are you sure? My understanding is the airplane and sailplane versions have the same switch layout, but different labels printed under them. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2659859/anchors_2659859/mpage_1/key_9303%252Cswitch/anchor/tm.htm#2659859 I understood that the heli version had different switch layout. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2371121/tm.htm Jon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303?? Harley, before you buy 9303 sailplane version take a look at the airplane version. I believe the software is the same but I like the switch setup on the upper left panel for the airplane version. more flexability with the 3 position switch that comes with the airplane setup. I know you said you didn't want to be bothered with switches right now, but down the road maybe. I use that switch to get three flight modes after launching. Speed, cruise and thermal. JR will give you all three manuals for the 9303 if you request them. Regards. Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Aerobatic sloper
I am looking for a new sloper, to replace my late, lamented Nemesis (don't ask). I'm looking for something more aerobatic and am considering the Psycho and Voltij. Does anyone on the list have any experience with either of these two ships, or suggestions about others I might toss into the mix? Joe Parsons RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Jon, I have the so called airplane version and the center switch on the left hand upper front panel is a three position switch and I was under the impression on the sailplane version that switch was only a two position switch. I could be wrong. Does any one out there know if there is this difference or not ? Regards, Dave Corven. Dave, Are you sure? My understanding is the airplane and sailplane versions have the same switch layout, but different labels printed under them. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2659859/anchors_2659859/mpage_1/key_9303%252Cs witch/anchor/tm.htm#2659859 I understood that the heli version had different switch layout. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2371121/tm.htm Jon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303?? Harley, before you buy 9303 sailplane version take a look at the airplane version. I believe the software is the same but I like the switch setup on the upper left panel for the airplane version. more flexability with the 3 position switch that comes with the airplane setup. I know you said you didn't want to be bothered with switches right now, but down the road maybe. I use that switch to get three flight modes after launching. Speed, cruise and thermal. JR will give you all three manuals for the 9303 if you request them. Regards. Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] futaba charge plug
I'm trying to help and OLD friend with radio problems..I'm soldering up a switch harness... I have no Futaba wall charger to look at...My question is ; If I put a charge plug on the switch assembly that the battery will plug into; Will it also be the proper plug for the charger to plug into when he goes to charge it...? Gotta get it fixed today.. Thanks guysBrian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] trouble with balsa dust
Richard Hallett wrote: Does an ionizer that strongly puts that pungent corona smell in the air make the dust settle faster? That sounds like ozone (metallic smell). It isn't healthy. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Fw: [RCSE] futaba charge plug
Got it...Thanks Guys...This is what happens when old guys try to help OLD guys..(smile) Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
The best switch setup is to slightly moddify the radio and move the Elevator dual rate switch to the right front panel (where the thermal/cruise/speed switch is located), move the launch/cruise/land switch one place to the left( where the elev d/r switch was) and rotate it 180 degrees, and move the thermal/cruise/speed switchh (that you took out in the first step) over to the remaining hole to (the right of the launch/cruise/land switch). This will let you operate all of the flight modes with your left thumb. There are instructions (in pdf format) with many pictures on how to do this at www.rcsoaring.com under documents and tips - JR9303 Sailplane Switch Modifications. It taks around 45 minutes, a small soldering iron, and a 6 piece of hookup wire to do the modification. -Original Message- From: Harley Michaelis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:37 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303?? Guys. . .excuse my simple inquiry, but with all the frustrations I had with the 8103, I'm reluctant to take the plunge on the 9303. Nevertheless, I must do something pronto about a brand new Tx and have no time to read extensive manuals and fuss with elaborate programming. Would those of you who have the 9303 that has ailerons and elevator on the right stick and throttle and rudder on the left, please tell me this: Will it be a simple programming matter to operate the two flaps to full down on the throttle stick and have elevator compensation? Will the throttle trim tab then effect both flaps? Can I bypass flipping any switches? Is it simple to get rudder mixed in with ailerons? Is it easy to program for Dual Rates on elevator and ailerons? What kind of running time are you getting on the standard battery pack? That's all I need to fly the Genie, the LT/S or the Genie Pro. The other things can come later. I have no time now to deal with them. have rudder mixed in with ailerons. Question. Will the throttle trim tab then move both flaps?remain The other stuff can come later. Would it be a simple and sure programming procedure to do those things??? Also, does the radio allow independent programming for throw and neutrals of each aileron.of each aileron? (1) use the throttle stick to move both flaps to the full down positioonindependently get each flap to a full down position on the throttle stick? (2) Would the throttle trim tab be functional to simultaneously effect up or down movement of both flaps? (2) dial in down elevator compensation with down flaps? (3) independently program each aileron for throws and differential? (4) Mix rudder in with ailerons? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Incidence/Decelage?
Watch what you use for the reference line of the airfoil. The bottom is not usually line used. Usually it is the line from the point of the TE to the point of the LE. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY - Original Message - From: Winch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 11:15 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Incidence/Decelage? Pat, The rule of thumb that was told to me years ago and that I always used as a starting point is 1/2 the camber. Ymmv. Phil in Vancouver RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Gentlemen, I have the sailplane version, and as it comes out of the box. there are two 3 position switches on the top face of the radio Tx. One is directly above the left stick and the other is directly above the right stick. I chose to swap locations of the Left 3 position switch over to the far left top face where one of the dual rate switches is located. I use the 3 position switch for three different flight modes and don't want to fumble my fingers around the flap/spoiler stick while looking up at my glider. It is an easy swap to make. My friend also has a sailplane version and is OK with switch locations as it comes out of the box. Marc Gellart has the helicopter version which has a 3 position switch located on the upper top left corner like a Stylus or Vision. He says it was easy for him to program to his desired functions. We all like our JR 9303's very much. Coming from Airtronics radios, I did have a learning curve to get through, but it's worth learning for me. I think if you are jumping up from one of the earlier JR Radio versions, you will be familiar with the programming language and methods. Should be able to adapt you knowledge easily. You can't get any better field support then Horizon Hobbies offers. They have dedicated sailplane flyers employed who travel to many events and they will bend over backwards to meet your needs. They also support a number glider events each year. How can it get any better then that?? It's a no brainer. Go with JR and reap all the benefits. Mike Remus LOFT Glider Club Fort Wayne IN LSF Level 5 #112 Remember; Think small. Big ideas upset others! On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:46:48 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jon, I have the so called airplane version and the center switch on the left hand upper front panel is a three position switch and I was under the impression on the sailplane version that switch was only a two position switch. I could be wrong. Does any one out there know if there is this difference or not ? Regards, Dave Corven. Dave, Are you sure? My understanding is the airplane and sailplane versions have the same switch layout, but different labels printed under them. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2659859/anchors_2659859/mpage_1/key_930 3%252Cs witch/anchor/tm.htm#2659859 I understood that the heli version had different switch layout. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2371121/tm.htm Harley, before you buy 9303 sailplane version take a look at the airplane version. I believe the software is the same but I like the switch setup on the upper left panel for the airplane version. more flexability with the 3 position switch that comes with the airplane setup. I know you said you didn't want to be bothered with switches right now, but down the road maybe. I use that switch to get three flight modes after launching. Speed, cruise and thermal. JR will give you all three manuals for the 9303 if you request them. Regards. Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Another Hi-Start Story
I had run a stout hi start across a baseball diamond one spring. After pulling the chute back about 100 yards, I threw the plane. It went about 50 feet up then came off like there was no tension. Put the plane on the ground and walked the line, expecting a break somewhere. Nope. The string had cut into the mud on the baselines and the mud stopped it cold. The pretty fluorescent pink string had a big ugly mud stain on it, so I took it off the rubber and chute and washed it in a "delicates" bag in the washer. You would not believe how tangled up a piece of string can get like this. I was laughing at myself as I untangled it thinking about how much time I was wasting for three bucks worth of twine, but once I started, I could not let the line beat me. I think the fabric softener adds to the aerodynamics. Tom KoszutaWestern New York Sailplane and Electric FlyersBuffalo, NY - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: [RCSE] Another Hi-Start disaster... I had one of the worst ever and recently. We fly in a public park and there is a kiddie playground very near by. This weekend I was helping one of our newbies with the highstart, holding it while he was getting his ship ready, when one of the guys yells out.. Oh my gosh! Look at that mom! Apparently there was a 'desperate housewife' in very short shorts and a halter top, thin tanned legs and blond hair sunning herself, stretched on the lawn... She was in the grass out of my vision behind a mini van, and I was stuck holding the highstart! Ruined my day. :-) Dang those histarts!Gordy Louisville this week
Re: [RCSE] trouble with balsa dust
I have been allergic to lots of stuff, including dust, since childhood. Several years ago my doc suggested Claritin, which is now generic and not too pricey. Works for me. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Andrew E Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] trouble with balsa dust Richard Hallett wrote: Does an ionizer that strongly puts that pungent corona smell in the air make the dust settle faster? That sounds like ozone (metallic smell). It isn't healthy. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: Aerobatic sloper
Hard to go wrong with either of those choices. Have a few people on my home slope with the Voltij and they love it, bit fussy to build, but certainly managable. You should also consider the Airtech products distributed by Greg Smith at www.slopeflyer.com. If you are looking for something a bit more well rounded (not a purpose-built aerobat), you might take a good look at the Hypnosis offered by SoaringUSA: http://tinyurl.com/9mrnf Cheers, Nathan Wooods -- Original Message -- Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:07:30 -0700 From: Joe Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Aerobatic sloper I am looking for a new sloper, to replace my late, lamented Nemesis (don't ask). I'm looking for something more aerobatic and am considering the Psycho and Voltij. Does anyone on the list have any experience with either of these two ships, or suggestions about others I might toss into the mix? Joe Parsons RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS - JR radios
I've got a 10x, barely used, that I was planning on using on a giant-scale project that's turned into a 'get up a down payment for a house' project. I doubt it's been in the field more than 2 hours total. Complete with module on 35, charger (if I can find it), manual, and datasafe system. - $600 complete Also, an 8103, module on 18, standard trims, with a new, not-yet-installed 2200mah battery pack - $200. TIA, Matt
[RCSE] Re: Git'r-Built (wood kits)
Hey guys, Forgot to mention I'm not doing wood kits at this time, they get me to back-logged. I want to keep the turn around time as short as possible for you guys. If your not in a big hurry, I can work on the wood stuff when the table is empty in between the ARF's. Dave Hauch Mich. - Original Message - From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: Git'r-Built Hey guys, Just want to remind you that I'm still build planes fulltime, or I should say installing gear and getting them RTF. Mostly T/D planes, but have done alot of slopers, electric sailplanes, and some electric pylon racers. Let me know what you got and I can give you price. I can send you some pics of my work and referrals. Turn around time is usually just a day or two. Dave Hauch Mich. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR 9303 - Jojo lost his virginity
Ok I am not a virgin.. But in JR terms I think I am. All my model life I have been playing around with MPX Tx's (Though my first was a 2ch Sanwa). I have had Sprint, Combi 80 (still have this one as trainer), Royal, 2015, 3010, 3030, 4000 and currently own 2 EVO's THEN I was going to the Nats and needed 72mhz (we have 35mhz here in Norway) so I spent some bucks on a used crystal EVO and got GREAT service from Polk that sent me a synth Rx. But I realized I needed moreTx crystalsand turned to a friend I met at the WC F3J in Canada. John Diniz at Horizon Hobby ( http://www.horizonhobby.com/)proposed that I should try the JR 9303 and would send me all I needed. Wow! Now I could check out what JR feels is the best. And since I know some of the best have used it I felt confident that I might have a good thing going. You see - there is one thing I dont compromise on. I do not come to a competition unprepared. Since I cant use 72mhz on a regular basis here in Norway I will have to return the stuff but if I feel the 9303 has an advantage over my EVO I might do the switch. We will see... Anyhow it seems that JR really takes us sailplane guys serious and do step up for us when needed. So over to the shiny case I got in the mail today. It took only 7 days shipping to Norway so I started fidling with the switches and put it on charge while I surfed thru the airplane manual (seems I have the "A/S" version. airplane/sailplane). After 1/2 hour and some dinner I had to start fidling with the on/off switch also so I fidled more and took out a sailplane from the cellar... I took the worst one out there. At WC the South African team had got new Graupner MX-22's (same case as 9303) and strugled with programming. I bought one of the planes (Shongololo a copy of the SwedishRacemachine)they brought and discovered that it was NOT properly set up. So here I have a model with servo horn in all strange directions and a new radio that I have been fidling with for just 20-30min. Well to make a long story short the model is up and running and the timer says I did it before the radio had been on for 2 hours. I now have all the setup I need for F3J with 3 flight phases,camber control on the slider and a countdown timer on the training button. Even the name on the model is correct ;-O I have a qualifying competition this weekend so I dont think I will dare to use it this soon -but hey It sure does work and also: It seems to do what I need both for sailplane competition and I can fly my electric planes. Only thing I need to work out is how to use that training button to start my electric sailplane motors... Dont expect me to read ALL the messages on this list if you have any comments. But as always I try to keep up and enjoy the reading ;-) Hilsen (Regards) Jojowww.grini.no
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[RCSE] Benefit of reduced planform tips?
What is the benefit of reduced planform tips. For instance with the SuperGee you have to make 4 panels for a complete set of wings in order to get the sloped wing tips. (Just ignore the different airfoils at the tip for now). Why do we need the sharper profile at the tip? Thanks -- Jay Hunter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SC-2 hand launch 4-24-05
After the SC-2 contest Sunday at SWSA (Covina, CA) we'll be holding a hand launch contest for all interested flyers. Probably just 4 rounds with 10 minute windows. It'll start at 1:30 pm. Hope to see you there! JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Git'r-Built (wood kits)
Dudes I've seen several examples of Daves work, most excellent. Denny Maize Polecat Aero 717-789-0146 www.polecataero.com
[RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
Y'all know I'm no electronics whiz, so I'd appreciate a little advice if any is necessary: I just charged both of my JR TX's for several hours using two wall chargers. One charger was stock JR, the other one I THOUGHT was my other stock JR wall charger. but I now see that it was actually a Hitec wall charger. The radio that was on the Hitec charger had zilch, wouldn't come on, LCD display didn't even flash for a second. Seemed very weird at first, but once I realized it had been on the wrong charger, things started to make more sense. I've now got the uncharged (mis-charged?) radio charging on the JR charger, as was the original intent. I seem to remember from my days of wiring various other chargers that the wall charger polarity on a Hitec and JR chargers might be opposite. Any reason to expect that I've done any damage to the battery? Anything I should be doing or checking? I already put the 'correctly charged' battery in the TX that was on the Hitec charger and everything works fine. Thanks in advance for any reassurances (or horrors if warranted) :-) Lift, Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR XP9303 Sailplane Manual Error?
A few months ago I recal seeing a post by someone on RCSE about an error on programming the JR XP9303 radio for a sailplane setup. I have looked through the archives, but I cannot seem to find the article. Can anyone help me and guide me to the article, please? Otherwise, what are the errors in the manual? Thank you. Cameron Ninham RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
Hello Scobie, Yes, the JR charger for the RADIO (only) is REVERSED. If you pluged in a charger from a different brand (with reversed polarity) into the radio it will short out the fuse in the TX. You will have to replace the fuse. Regards, Cameron Ninham --- Scobie Puchtler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Y'all know I'm no electronics whiz, so I'd appreciate a little advice if any is necessary: I just charged both of my JR TX's for several hours using two wall chargers. One charger was stock JR, the other one I THOUGHT was my other stock JR wall charger. but I now see that it was actually a Hitec wall charger. The radio that was on the Hitec charger had zilch, wouldn't come on, LCD display didn't even flash for a second. Seemed very weird at first, but once I realized it had been on the wrong charger, things started to make more sense. I've now got the uncharged (mis-charged?) radio charging on the JR charger, as was the original intent. I seem to remember from my days of wiring various other chargers that the wall charger polarity on a Hitec and JR chargers might be opposite. Any reason to expect that I've done any damage to the battery? Anything I should be doing or checking? I already put the 'correctly charged' battery in the TX that was on the Hitec charger and everything works fine. Thanks in advance for any reassurances (or horrors if warranted) :-) Lift, Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
Scobie Puchtler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to remember from my days of wiring various other chargers that the wall charger polarity on a Hitec and JR chargers might be opposite. That's right, they are. The JR charging plug has the negative connection on the tip and the positive connection on the side. Any reason to expect that I've done any damage to the battery? Yes. If you've discharged any or all of the cells and then charged them in reverse, they're likely to be permanently damaged. If so, after a normal charge they could appear to be okay but will quickly go dead when used. Anything I should be doing or checking? You need to cycle the pack with a smart charger, such as a Triton, and see how many MAH the pack can now store. If it's significantly less than the pack's rating, which I believe is 600 MAH, then you'll need to replace the pack. Alternately, you can just give the pack up for dead and replace it, just to be safe. There are differing opinions among the guys here concerning NiCd vs. NiMh cells, but my own recommendation is to buy two four-packs of Energizer 2300 or 2500 MAH cells from a local department store, cut the wire harness from your old NiCd pack before recycling it (cut only one wire at a time), and build a new pack. You can charge it with the same charger you've been using, but of course it'll take longer because of the increased capacity. Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/ _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you pluged in a charger from a different brand (with reversed polarity) into the radio it will short out the fuse in the TX. You will have to replace the fuse. You'd think so, but apparently not because he already said his radio is okay: I already put the 'correctly charged' battery in the TX that was on the Hitec charger and everything works fine. He'd be better off if the fuse had blown, but it sounds to me like the fuse held, the battery charger reverse-charged his pack, and probably ruined it. Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/ _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
Most radios and modern equipment have a diode in them just for this accident. In which case the battery is in the same condition as when he started and the fuse is still good. Put it on the regular charger and charge for the right time and you should be all set. Rick Richard Hallett Pittsfield ME - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you pluged in a charger from a different brand (with reversed polarity) into the radio it will short out the fuse in the TX. You will have to replace the fuse. You'd think so, but apparently not because he already said his radio is okay: I already put the 'correctly charged' battery in the TX that was on the Hitec charger and everything works fine. He'd be better off if the fuse had blown, but it sounds to me like the fuse held, the battery charger reverse-charged his pack, and probably ruined it. Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/ _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
A friend of mine did exactly this with a JR 8103. He charged it up, and it looked OK. 8 minutes into his first flight with a 33% Edge with a DA100 on it he went into failsafe and crashed into a big lake at the site. Total loss of the plane. Batteries are cheap. Spend $30 and get a bigger NiMH and replace the stock battery. WEM Richard Hallett wrote: Most radios and modern equipment have a diode in them just for this accident. In which case the battery is in the same condition as when he started and the fuse is still good. Put it on the regular charger and charge for the right time and you should be all set. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
Richard Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most radios and modern equipment have a diode in them just for this accident. JR radios for USA use don't. I often charge the batteries in my JR radios through the charging jacks with my Triton charger. Peak chargers like the Triton can't work with diodes in the circuit. I also once made the same mistake that Scobie made and plugged the wrong trickle charger into one of my JR radios. In my case the fuse blew right away and aside from that, no harm was done. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2933069postcount=7 Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/ _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
If the pack was healthy to start with, you may be fine. This will depend greatly on pack condition, and just how long you had thme on reverse charge. You state that you now have the proper charger on the TX in question for a while now. I suggest checking right away to see whether the TX actually turns on, this will determine a few things: - that indeed the TX powers up - that the pack is retaining a charge (check initial voltage) - that all cells are showing a minimum V (whatever the indicated voltage is divided by 8 - should be at least 1.1-2V/cell). Scobie Puchtler wrote: Y'all know I'm no electronics whiz, so I'd appreciate a little advice if any is necessary: I just charged both of my JR TX's for several hours using two wall chargers. One charger was stock JR, the other one I THOUGHT was my other stock JR wall charger. but I now see that it was actually a Hitec wall charger. The radio that was on the Hitec charger had zilch, wouldn't come on, LCD display didn't even flash for a second. Seemed very weird at first, but once I realized it had been on the wrong charger, things started to make more sense. I've now got the uncharged (mis-charged?) radio charging on the JR charger, as was the original intent. I seem to remember from my days of wiring various other chargers that the wall charger polarity on a Hitec and JR chargers might be opposite. Any reason to expect that I've done any damage to the battery? Anything I should be doing or checking? I already put the 'correctly charged' battery in the TX that was on the Hitec charger and everything works fine. Thanks in advance for any reassurances (or horrors if warranted) :-) Lift, Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
Scobie, There is a lot of bogus mation being passed around. 1st, the JR radio's do have reversed polarity, if you had plugged the Hitec charger into it, it should have blown the fuse. 2nd, reverse charging the Hitec radio with the JR charger could have damaged the cells beyond repair, the only way to know is to give them a forming charge ( 18 to 24 hours on the slow charger) Then cycle them 3 to 4 times and check their capacity each time, if they come up to capacity after the 3rd cycle, then they will be OK, if they don't, replace them and start over with the forming charge. 3rd, the Hitec radio has a jumper that will not let you DISCHARGE the pack through the radio jack, any peak detection charger will charge them ok, but won't let you cycle them until you jump the diode. ( Check my web site for directions to jump the diodes www.siriuselectronics.com ) 4th JR radios don't use diodes, they have a fuse instead, some are user replaceable and some need a tech to replace them. Best advice I can give you is, Don't fly that pack until you have made SURE it will function correctly. Advertisement: If you used one of my charging systems this couldn't happen, they know the difference :-). If you would like to discuss this further, I'll be in the shop all day tomorrow 800-532-0092 Smooth Landings George At 05:03 PM 4/20/2005 -0700, Scobie Puchtler wrote: Y'all know I'm no electronics whiz, so I'd appreciate a little advice if any is necessary: I just charged both of my JR TX's for several hours using two wall chargers. One charger was stock JR, the other one I THOUGHT was my other stock JR wall charger. but I now see that it was actually a Hitec wall charger. The radio that was on the Hitec charger had zilch, wouldn't come on, LCD display didn't even flash for a second. Seemed very weird at first, but once I realized it had been on the wrong charger, things started to make more sense. I've now got the uncharged (mis-charged?) radio charging on the JR charger, as was the original intent. I seem to remember from my days of wiring various other chargers that the wall charger polarity on a Hitec and JR chargers might be opposite. Any reason to expect that I've done any damage to the battery? Anything I should be doing or checking? I already put the 'correctly charged' battery in the TX that was on the Hitec charger and everything works fine. Thanks in advance for any reassurances (or horrors if warranted) :-) Lift, Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Radio Charging Error-advice please
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 09:34:41PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | JR radios for USA use don't. I often charge the batteries in my JR radios | through the charging jacks with my Triton charger. Peak chargers like the | Triton can't work with diodes in the circuit. Actually, the Triton can charge through a diode. It can't discharge (which makes sense), but it can charge. | I also once made the same mistake that Scobie made and plugged the | wrong trickle charger into one of my JR radios. In my case the fuse | blew right away and aside from that, no harm was done. Well, if there's no diode, or a fuse didn't blow, then he almost certainly reverse charged his pack. Exactly how much depends on how full the batteries were when he started, and how long the charger was on ... The batteries were probably damaged at least somewhat, but it may not be enough to worry about (mostly the damage would manifest as reduced capacity.) I'd strongly suggest at least running them through a cycler a few times and make sure they're still OK. If the capacity is down more than 10 or 20% from the original capacity -- replace them. Some people are down on NiMH cells for receiver packs, as they don't stand up to abuse as well, and have higher internal resistances, and there is truth to all that, but for transmitter packs they're perfect. And even if you pay full retail Wal-Mart price, 8 2000+ mAh NiMH AA cells will only cost about $20 -- cheap insurance, and you'll probably get a pack that will last all day. (Assuming you can make your own packs, of course.) -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #19 A: To be or not to be. Q: What is the square root of 4b^2? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Hobby Horse
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