[RCSE] Re: AMA sent me a DVD
What if the DVD was all for free and there was nothing about donating? We have been thinking of doing that in Norway. (giving it away together with the bimonthly magazine) WIll the crowd understand that it is free and that nobody have earned money on it? Hilsen (Regards) Jojo www.grini.no Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:07:53 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA sent me a DVD Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't assume without proof that AMA sold the list itself to this company. They are smarter than that. Typically, I think the way it works is the mail merging and labeling and shipping happens at AMA, it has to, otherwise, there's little to stop the marketing guys with the video from re-selling the list to others or re-using it themselves, and then AMA would only get to sell or rent the list information once. That would be REALLY stupid, criminally stupid. By holding the list to themselves, they ensure they retain it's value for re-selling over and over. If they ARE just handing over a CD ROM of addresses to anybody who pays for it, the management need to be severely censured for bad management practices. So you don't like the DVD, it's your right not to pay for anything you didn't ask for. I think if you look thru your membership fine print, you can specify someplace that you opt out of any such lists for similar future projects. I don't blame the Academy for seeking revenue enhancements other than across the board dues increases. Those are never popular, yet more than ever modelers need the Academy for it's help in keeping and getting fields and permissions in a world where the free space grows tighter every year. And we need their good offices lobbying for our interests for spectrum space as well, it's always under threat from more commercial interests. All that DOES take money, believe it or not. Voluntary contributions like this DVD idea may help defray costs, if they are executed properly. Whether that is the case here is not something I care to debate, not having a dog in that particular fight and not having seen the video in question. I will say I have a bunch of their old videos from the 80's and 90's that we used in club outreach and public mall show efforts and they were quality product for their era. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA sent me a DVD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't blame the Academy... But I thought WE were the Academy. The AMA represents itself as an association made up of its members. With that in mind, you are in effect telling us, I don't blame us for sending ourselves merchandize that we didn't ask for and then pressuring ourselves to pay for that merchandize in order to raise money for ourselves. But of course I'm being facetious. Your position makes much more sense if you view the AMA the way many of us do: It's a business. It's an insurance company that offers a unique type of insurance that we need, and so we're AMA customers. And like most companies that have acquired our mailing addresses for other purposes, they won't hesitate to send us unsolicited junk mail. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Gateway Open 2005/OVSS #3
Just a reminder for the Gateway Open in Northwest St. Louis on June 17-19. Friday is a HL contest in the AM and afternoon free flying. Saturday and Sunday is Unlimited class, fly what you brung at any time, seeded MOM. Check the following link for hotels, entry, maps, etc. http://www.mvsaclub.com/gopen05.htm This is a great field, actually a sod farm, and a great group of guys. Noon meal is supplied for all fliers. Plan on long flights and many rounds. Marc Gellart, CD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Mega 22/30/1 and 22/30/2
Success on the ESC. Looking for either or both of the above, anyone? Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Timing CD
Found two sources for MP3 timing files. These are mainly practice files. With an MP3 editor you should be able to make one for 10 minutes. http://www.nonsilence.com/soaring/timer.html Our Norwegian friend JoJo has F3J timing. Should be able to be adapted easily for HL use. Just have to get used to the accent. :-) http://www.grini.no/f3j Steve Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 03:32 PM 6/8/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dudes Last summer I leant my HL timing CD to someone and can't for the life of me remember who. Anybody know of a source for making another? Denny Maize Polecat Aero 717-789-0146 www.polecataero.com
[RCSE] OVSS/rules/pop offs/line breaks
I would like the OVSS to consider one pop off per day along with one line break per day. Driving 1000 miles and paying hundreds of dollars in travel and motel fees is a REAL bummer to have ruined the whole weekends score for one glitch, that is at times out of your control. Throwing a heavy ship into a cross wind when ordered to launch and can't stand on the pedal for fear of breaking the line is tuff. Will this start a war that will sink the exchange? If so forget my request. (SMILE) Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply
1005 miles, 17 hours driving for me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Taht ther was a guy from Germany, Guys from California, As well. -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- Great story Jack. I would love to attend one of these events, but from Calgary it would be days of driving one way. Although we are setting up to tow really big stuff (we towed in the mid eighties), hosting an event where there is myself and a few others in the whole of western Canada makes it tough. Any idea who was the furthest attendee who flew? Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Its my turn to get a tow. Radio is on, wiggle check, canopy is closed and locked. I pull the 25 pound Ventus 2ax out into position, where Carolyn hooks the tow line to my model. Not paying too much attention, I head over to stand next to the Tow Pilot. You want to do this, if for nothing else communications. I verify that my Ailerons and rudder are uncoupled. All I need to do is keep the wings level, and let the tow plane do the work. All of a sudden I hear this aussie accent asking, Are you ready.. Jack? ; To my surprise, its our host Peter Goldsmith at the sticks on the Tow plane. My comfort level just went up 300 percent. If you dont know, be advised that Peter is an excellent stick. I give him a generous smile and a nod of my head and the Tow plane throttles up. Shortly the Ventus is airborne, and the tow plane comes off the ground. A climbing turn to the south behind the Tow Plane, and Peter says, Just like a Pro, Jack; I am embarrassedwell maybe a little anyway.. I am guessing that I got off, with a release and a right turn around 2000 agl, there were scud running clouds running thru the area, and I wanted to avoid them. I fly for about 30 minutes, and note that 2 tugs outta 4 were operating, such that the sky was getting crowded. I think that if not all, certainly most frequencies were in use. After another 45 minutes, of tooling around, its time to come home, I set the Ventus up for landing, announce down wind, base and final turns to the flight line director. He directs me to land wide,. My approach is stable, and the Ventus 2ax gets into ground effect and just will not land, I apply a slight amount of spoiler, the plane drops to Tera firma. I put in 6 more flights like this! What fun. In between flights I am charging my batteries, walking around the site meeting new people, reaffirming older friendships. There are 60 some pilots on site and I know of 10 people that came from the South Bend and Chicago area just to watch on a day trip. What Fun, no contest points, but I think That I can survive the loss!!. There were 5 or 6 Ventus 2ax sailplanes there; 6 meter airplanes, and a couple of 8+ Meter aircraft. Glass Slippers, and Wooden Airplanes as well. Scratch Builds, Kit builds and composite moldies were abound. Endless Mountain Models, Icare, Hobby Lobby, and many other products were represented at this event. -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Monticello, Ill...Typical...(long) [1]
of most Mid Western Farming communities. Streets lined with older trees and big houses. The Town surrounded by some of the countries best farm land. Like most County Seats (Piatt County), the town is a little bigger than most, with activities for the Kids and adults alike. Shopping, Museums etc. We will be heading to the County airport for the JR Aero Tow 2005. Karen and I arrived late Thursday evening, to awake and have a cheap but rather large breakfast next door at the Red Wheel Resturant. I think that the hotel rate was a little much, for the area, but the rooms were clean and that is what counts. After breakfast we are guided with the event maps and signsconviently locatedthru town out to the High School and the left on the way to the Airport. Karen comments on the new wheat growing to our right. We arrive on sight at the airport, do the check in process. I find that I am sharing my frequency, and at the same time notice a vacant Frequency that I can move to. I make the necessary arrangements and change frequencies, so that I could fly anytime that I chose. The move was appreciated by the JR employee doing the check in. Karen and I put up our EZ-up and unload the truck. The weather is warm, the sky overcast at about 1500 agl, the winds 5 to 8 variable at 8:30 am and most of the day. I get my Ventus 2Ax assembled, Gonzo the pilot at its side, and decide to relax for a few, in anticipation of the Pilots briefing. The announcement comes for the briefing, which is full of introductions and common sense requests. The flight line is laid out to the participants, and a short discussion about the full scale glider club giving up the 4 days for the JR event and that full scale glider rides were being raffled. Sweet !! I Look Around and notice faces present that I have not seen in years. Stan Cotch (sp) comes to mind first, Howard Keller and Bernie Coleman, who actually introduced me to "Scale" Aero Tow. Skip is there, Jim Frickey and his crew, the boyz from Texas were there , Mark Nackivil is there. Jim Porter who has been out of the country is recognized immediately and is greeted with a friendly handshake,and there were many others as well. There is a Japanese filming crew covering the event for a major magazine in Japan, and then there were our hosts; Peter and Carolyn Goldsmith, and the Team JR representatives who will be providing the Tows and any assistance that anyone would need. After a couple of ceiling checks, by contest bud and Jr Team Member John Dinz I decide that its time to get my plane. By the way, this link http://home.comcast.net/~strotherbj/JrAt05Web/index.htm, will direct you to some pix that Karen took. Skip is up front in the line. He and rusty Rude (sp?) have been flying the Cross country course, Skip ended the day with some 26 miles on the course. --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold
[RCSE] Jr Aero tow PAge 3
Its about 4 pm now, the sky is opening up, I am on flight 7 or 8, a voice from behind barks out, OK Strother, give up the Pizza Box !! . Its my bud Jim McCarthy, who promptly remove the MPX 4000 from my hand, and flies the Ventus which is at about 2200 feet. Shortly, Tk and Bacus sneak up and the fun begins McCarthy flies for about 40 minutes, then Bacus for another, then TK for another 40 or so, ach critiquing each others flying ability or the lack of, all in the most serious fun of fun. They finally toss the box back at me, I cruse the Ventus around for a little while longer, Batteries are not an issue with this plane and its 10 servos, as I have two 3000ma packs in her. I make the turns to down wind, then base, then final, I am about mid field, the airplane picks up speed a tail wind gust I apply a little spoiler, the Ventus Slams onto the ground, the tail continues to elevate, the right tip strikes the ground, the tail flips over, the canopy breaks, and then it all finally stops .. We go out pick up the big pieces and reassemble on my blanket. There is a whole bunch of analyzing and I am so sorry about your plan floating about. Yea, My plane is broke, I cannot fly tomorrow, bench fixing is the order, I know this already, but I am not upset. I look at all the folks standing near, holding Karens hand, and I reflect that this has been the best soaring day that I have had in many years. I have met new people, old friends, soared with my Chicago buds (Family), and was part of one of the Nations Premiere Soaring events. I can not feel bad, I can not be upset. Then John Diniz says it time for brats and beer at my place ! Heck I am up for that ! Karen and I tear down, while others fly hand launch, The Diniz Family are great hosts, but McCarthy still cooked .This town has some really good Brats trust me !! There is so much more to tell, But I have taken enough of your time. I want to Thank the Goldsmiths, Horizon, JR, The Diniz Family, the city of Monticello and who ever else I need to for a wonderful weekend. I will back for the Next JR Aero Tow !! Respectfully Submitted Capn Jack --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold
[RCSE] JR Aero tow page 2
Its my turn to get a tow. Radio is on, wiggle check, canopy is closed and locked. I pull the 25 pound Ventus 2ax out into position, where Carolyn hooks the tow line to my model. Not paying too much attention, I head over to stand next to the Tow Pilot. You want to do this, if for nothing else communications. I verify that my Ailerons and rudder are uncoupled. All I need to do is keep the wings level, and let the tow plane do the work. All of a sudden I hear this aussie accent asking, "Are you ready.. Jack? "; To my surprise, its our host Peter Goldsmith at the sticks on the Tow plane. My comfort level just went up 300 percent. If you dont know, be advised that Peter is an excellent stick. I give him a generous smile and a nod of my head and the Tow plane throttles up. Shortly the Ventus is airborne, and the tow plane comes off the ground. A climbing turn to the south behind the Tow Plane, and Peter says, Just like a Pro, Jack; I am embarrassed well maybe a little anyway .. I am guessing that I got off, with a release and a right turn around 2000 agl, there were scud running clouds running thru the area, and I wanted to avoid them. I fly for about 30 minutes, and note that 2 tugs outta 4 were operating, such that the sky was getting crowded. I think that if not all, certainly most frequencies were in use. After another 45 minutes, of tooling around, its time to come home, I set the Ventus up for landing, announce down wind, base and final turns to the flight line director. He directs me to land wide,. My approach is stable, and the Ventus 2ax gets into ground effect and just will not land, I apply a slight amount of spoiler, the plane drops to Tera firma. I put in 6 more flights like this! What fun. In between flights I am charging my batteries, walking around the site meeting new people, reaffirming older friendships. There are 60 some pilots on site and I know of 10 people that came from the South Bend and Chicago area just to watch on a day trip. What Fun, no contest points, but I think That I can survive the loss!!. There were 5 or 6 Ventus 2ax sailplanes there; 6 meter airplanes, and a couple of 8+ Meter aircraft. Glass Slippers, and Wooden Airplanes as well. Scratch Builds, Kit builds and composite moldies were abound. Endless Mountain Models, Icare, Hobby Lobby, and many other products were represented at this event. --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold
[RCSE] DP Where Are You
Daryl, ping me, your mail failed... Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] RE: JR Aerotow photos
Nathan, That is Victoria. Bernie Coleman's babe pics are here http://www.mvsaclub.com/octow02t.htm I have it from a good source she sends him perfumed letters.. JR Aerotow was fun --- Nathan Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't realize there was full scale there also, until I saw this photo of Karen http://home.comcast.net/~strotherbj/JrAt05Web/pages/JrAt05_123.htm :-) Nathan Woods RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Timing CD
Dudes Last summer I leant my HL timing CD to someone and can't for the life of me remember who. Anybody know of a source for making another? Denny Maize Polecat Aero 717-789-0146 www.polecataero.com
Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow page 2
Great story Jack. I would love to attend one of these events, but from Calgary it would be days of driving one way. Although we are setting up to tow really big stuff (we towed in the mid eighties), hosting an event where there is myself and a few others in the whole of western Canada makes it tough. Any idea who was the furthest attendee who flew? Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Its my turn to get a tow. Radio is on, wiggle check, canopy is closed and locked. I pull the 25 pound Ventus 2ax out into position, where Carolyn hooks the tow line to my model. Not paying too much attention, I head over to stand next to the Tow Pilot. You want to do this, if for nothing else communications. I verify that my Ailerons and rudder are uncoupled. All I need to do is keep the wings level, and let the tow plane do the work. All of a sudden I hear this aussie accent asking, Are you ready.. Jack? ; To my surprise, its our host Peter Goldsmith at the sticks on the Tow plane. My comfort level just went up 300 percent. If you dont know, be advised that Peter is an excellent stick. I give him a generous smile and a nod of my head and the Tow plane throttles up. Shortly the Ventus is airborne, and the tow plane comes off the ground. A climbing turn to the south behind the Tow Plane, and Peter says, Just like a Pro, Jack; I am embarrassed well maybe a little anyway .. I am guessing that I got off, with a release and a right turn around 2000 agl, there were scud running clouds running thru the area, and I wanted to avoid them. I fly for about 30 minutes, and note that 2 tugs outta 4 were operating, such that the sky was getting crowded. I think that if not all, certainly most frequencies were in use. After another 45 minutes, of tooling around, its time to come home, I set the Ventus up for landing, announce down wind, base and final turns to the flight line director. He directs me to land wide,. My approach is stable, and the Ventus 2ax gets into ground effect and just will not land, I apply a slight amount of spoiler, the plane drops to Tera firma. I put in 6 more flights like this! What fun. In between flights I am charging my batteries, walking around the site meeting new people, reaffirming older friendships. There are 60 some pilots on site and I know of 10 people that came from the South Bend and Chicago area just to watch on a day trip. What Fun, no contest points, but I think That I can survive the loss!!. There were 5 or 6 Ventus 2ax sailplanes there; 6 meter airplanes, and a couple of 8+ Meter aircraft. Glass Slippers, and Wooden Airplanes as well. Scratch Builds, Kit builds and composite moldies were abound. Endless Mountain Models, Icare, Hobby Lobby, and many other products were represented at this event. -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Jr Aero tow PAge 3
Wow Jack, What a nice write-up. I want to go, and I don't even have a scale glider !! Jon
[RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply
I think Taht ther was a guy from Germany, Guys from California, As well. --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- Great story Jack. I would love to attend one of these events, but from Calgary it would be days of driving one way. Although we are setting up to tow really big stuff (we towed in the mid eighties), hosting an event where there is myself and a few others in the whole of western Canada makes it tough. Any idea who was the furthest attendee who flew?Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Its my turn to get a tow. Radio is on, wiggle check, canopy is closed and locked. I pull the 25 pound Ventus 2ax out into position, where Carolyn hooks the tow line to my model. Not paying too much attention, I head over to stand next to the Tow Pilot. You want to do this, if for nothing else communications. I verify that my Ailerons and rudder are uncoupled. All I need to do is keep the wings level, and let the tow plane do the work. All of a sudden I hear this aussie accent asking, "Are you ready.. Jack? "; To my surprise, its our host Peter Goldsmith at the sticks on the Tow plane. My comfort level just went up 300 percent. If you dont know, be advised that Peter is an excellent stick. I give him a generous smile and a nod of my head and the Tow plane throttles up. Shortly the Ventus is airborne, and the tow plane comes off the ground. A climbing turn to the south behind the Tow Plane, and Peter says, Just like a Pro, Jack; I am embarrassed well maybe a little anyway .. I am guessing that I got off, with a release and a right turn around 2000 agl, there were scud running clouds running thru the area, and I wanted to avoid them. I fly for about 30 minutes, and note that 2 tugs outta 4 were operating, such that the sky was getting crowded. I think that if not all, certainly most frequencies were in use. After another 45 minutes, of tooling around, its time to come home, I set the Ventus up for landing, announce down wind, base and final turns to the flight line director. He directs me to land wide,. My approach is stable, and the Ventus 2ax gets into ground effect and just will not land, I apply a slight amount of spoiler, the plane drops to Tera firma. I put in 6 more flights like this! What fun. In between flights I am charging my batteries, walking around the site meeting new people, reaffirming older friendships. There are 60 some pilots on site and I know of 10 people that came from the South Bend and Chicago area just to watch on a day trip. What Fun, no contest points, but I think That I can survive the loss!!. There were 5 or 6 Ventus 2ax sailplanes there; 6 meter airplanes, and a couple of 8+ Meter aircraft. Glass Slippers, and Wooden Airplanes as well. Scratch Builds, Kit builds and composite moldies were abound. Endless Mountain Models, Icare, Hobby Lobby, and many other products were represented at this event. -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS GoldSimon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom
Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply
Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. At 03:51 PM 6/8/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Taht ther was a guy from Germany, Guys from California, As well. -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- Great story Jack. I would love to attend one of these events, but from Calgary it would be days of driving one way. Although we are setting up to tow really big stuff (we towed in the mid eighties), hosting an event where there is myself and a few others in the whole of western Canada makes it tough. Any idea who was the furthest attendee who flew? Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Its my turn to get a tow. Radio is on, wiggle check, canopy is closed and locked. I pull the 25 pound Ventus 2ax out into position, where Carolyn hooks the tow line to my model. Not paying too much attention, I head over to stand next to the Tow Pilot. You want to do this, if for nothing else communications. I verify that my Ailerons and rudder are uncoupled. All I need to do is keep the wings level, and let the tow plane do the work. All of a sudden I hear this aussie accent asking, Are you ready.. Jack? ; To my surprise, its our host Peter Goldsmith at the sticks on the Tow plane. My comfort level just went up 300 percent. If you dont know, be advised that Peter is an excellent stick. I give him a generous smile and a nod of my head and the Tow plane throttles up. Shortly the Ventus is airborne, and the tow plane comes off the ground. A climbing turn to the south behind the Tow Plane, and Peter says, Just like a Pro, Jack; I am embarrassed well maybe a little anyway .. I am guessing that I got off, with a release and a right turn around 2000 agl, there were scud running clouds running thru the area, and I wanted to avoid them. I fly for about 30 minutes, and note that 2 tugs outta 4 were operating, such that the sky was getting crowded. I think that if not all, certainly most frequencies were in use. After another 45 minutes, of tooling around, its time to come home, I set the Ventus up for landing, announce down wind, base and final turns to the flight line director. He directs me to land wide,. My approach is stable, and the Ventus 2ax gets into ground effect and just will not land, I apply a slight amount of spoiler, the plane drops to Tera firma. I put in 6 more flights like this! What fun. In between flights I am charging my batteries, walking around the site meeting new people, reaffirming older friendships. There are 60 some pilots on site and I kn Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
[RCSE] NIB Airtronics Legend and Aquila 4 Auction
I have an Airtronics Legend and an Airtronics Aquila on EBay for sale. I'll knock $10 off shipping charges for RCSE community. Thanks http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5980582679rd=1sspagenam e=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5980582978rd=1sspagenam e=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Phoenix 80
Anyone have one they wish to part with? Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply
Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] OVSS/rules/pop offs/line breaks
Or how about the hosting club considering this if it is not an OVSS issue? Brian Subject: [RCSE] OVSS/rules/pop offs/line breaks I would like the OVSS to consider one pop off per day along with one line break per day. Driving 1000 miles and paying hundreds of dollars in travel and motel fees is a REAL bummer to have ruined the whole weekends score for one glitch, that is at times out of your control. Throwing a heavy ship into a cross wind when ordered to launch and can't stand on the pedal for fear of breaking the line is tuff. Will this start a war that will sink the exchange? If so forget my request. (SMILE) Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply
You are right, I have never been... I have never been to the World Championships either, but I hope to some day. I was only speaking of my current experiences. So where are all the picture galleries and video from this years IHLGF? 8-) At 05:52 PM 6/8/2005, Lex Mierop wrote: Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Timing CD
I have the 5.8 and 10 minute files used at the IHLGF. Anyone who needs a copy, let me know. Don Richmond-Original Message-From: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.comSent: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:53:59 -0500Subject: Re: [RCSE] Timing CD Found two sources for MP3 timing files.These are mainly practice files. With an MP3 editor you should be able to make one for 10 minutes.http://www.nonsilence.com/soaring/timer.htmlOur Norwegian friend JoJo has F3J timing. Should be able to be adapted easily for HL use.Just have to get used to the accent. :-)http://www.grini.no/f3jSteve MeyerSOARLSF IVAt 03:32 PM 6/8/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dudes Last summer I leant my HL timing CD to someone and can't for the life of me remember who. Anybody know of a source for making another?Denny MaizePolecat Aero717-789-0146www.polecataero.com
RE: [RCSE] OVSS/rules/pop offs/line breaks
I'm suppressed that we don't see a suggestion for 1000 lb line and the use of a captured tow took. That way the line couldn't break and the plane couldn't pop off. Of course then it would be people that want John Deer diesel winches. John -Original Message- From: Brian Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] OVSS/rules/pop offs/line breaks Or how about the hosting club considering this if it is not an OVSS issue? Brian Subject: [RCSE] OVSS/rules/pop offs/line breaks I would like the OVSS to consider one pop off per day along with one line break per day. Driving 1000 miles and paying hundreds of dollars in travel and motel fees is a REAL bummer to have ruined the whole weekends score for one glitch, that is at times out of your control. Throwing a heavy ship into a cross wind when ordered to launch and can't stand on the pedal for fear of breaking the line is tuff. Will this start a war that will sink the exchange? If so forget my request. (SMILE) Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply
Here's a modest start... http://homepage.mac.com/jrerickson/Gliders/PhotoAlbum28.html There were a lot of guys shooting video and pictures. I'm sure it will start to surface soon. Some of the guys who attended aren't even home yet. Great contest. 90 pilots. Each heat had 15 guys going man on man in some tough conditions. 6 heats per round, 10 rounds, 3 more for the fly off. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:58:33 -0500 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply You are right, I have never been... I have never been to the World Championships either, but I hope to some day. I was only speaking of my current experiences. So where are all the picture galleries and video from this years IHLGF? 8-) At 05:52 PM 6/8/2005, Lex Mierop wrote: Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply
Lex: You left out a couple of countries that added to the cosmopolitan atmosphere of the IHLGF; France and Taiwan. Altogether we had 94 registered pilots at the IHLGF 2005 representing seven countries and 15 states. Not bad for a hand launch glider contest. We will get ol' Jim down here one of these days:) Ron -Original Message- From: Lex Mierop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:52 PM To: 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] IHLGF photo gallery
Thanks John, that's what I was looking for! 8-) At 07:09 PM 6/8/2005, John Erickson wrote: Here's a modest start... http://homepage.mac.com/jrerickson/Gliders/PhotoAlbum28.html There were a lot of guys shooting video and pictures. I'm sure it will start to surface soon. Some of the guys who attended aren't even home yet. Great contest. 90 pilots. Each heat had 15 guys going man on man in some tough conditions. 6 heats per round, 10 rounds, 3 more for the fly off. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:58:33 -0500 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply You are right, I have never been... I have never been to the World Championships either, but I hope to some day. I was only speaking of my current experiences. So where are all the picture galleries and video from this years IHLGF? 8-) At 05:52 PM 6/8/2005, Lex Mierop wrote: Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply
The sad part is, the NATS will be lucky to get 22 from not much more than 9 states for HLG. Steve SOAR LSF IV At 08:44 PM 6/8/2005, Ron Scharck wrote: Lex: You left out a couple of countries that added to the cosmopolitan atmosphere of the IHLGF; France and Taiwan. Altogether we had 94 registered pilots at the IHLGF 2005 representing seven countries and 15 states. Not bad for a hand launch glider contest. We will get ol' Jim down here one of these days:) Ron -Original Message- From: Lex Mierop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:52 PM To: 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: RE: [RCSE] OVSS/rules/pop offs/line breaks
John, All old news, releasable towhook on my first Oly II(1976), maybe not 1000# line but I have flown on probably 500# at a contest that wanted gaurenteed no line breaks, there were gas winches and even winches with fly wheels. You are way behind the curve with these ideas. All is fair in love and soaring. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] pop offs...not good, rule worse
I recently flew the OVSS Cincinatti and managed to take some wood... however, another excellent pilot had a freak popoff (probably it was strategic instead of an accident, since the pilot is a well know shifty character, which means he whips my butt pretty much since I started flying contests :-). The decision was too bad so sadand I made it known that I believe that the rule is abusive, rude, inconsiderate and disrepectful and pretty much think its a chicken shit rule...however all that wishy washy indecisionate opinionation by me aside, it is up to the CD or the rules. And it makes sense that rules cannot be overruled by common sense or consideration for everyone's fun as a consideration... If the rules get changed to consider 'fun' chaos would reign and the general pilot group would be delayed from getting home or another round being flown. Okay so I am pretty much against the no pop off rule, but I'm not CDing and I do appreciate all the work and excellent effort by the guys CDing events. My travels make it impossible for me to commit to taking on the responsibility so what I think is not a criticism of the coordinators and CDs, rather it is a belief that it is wrong to kill a pilots contest because of a popoff or broken line. The unnamed, mysterious 'them' (you know those guys who would abuse the lack of penalty to use either as a strategic advantage...but I have never met in all my travels soaring)who are spoken of when the no popoff or line break rule is justified,,,never win anyway. But to protect us poor honest guys against the deadly threat of losing a shot at the wood because some sneaky smart guy manipulates a delayed launch to see where the air was found by us honest guysokay pretty stupid stuff :-) We all take time from family and responsibilities, spend cash onfood, gas, motels and chance the wrath of wives, only to get burned by fate and the no pop off or line break rulewell its not fun for anyone when it happens to anyone of us. I have yet to be at a contest with a no pop off, and a guy popped off, where if the entire group were polled, all would say no relaunch. But rule or no rule, the OVSS has likely the most exciting and challenging format of all I have been involved in. Seeded Man on Man, both sucks and is great. Its format causes every single pilot, flying or in the pits to be interested and involved as the rounds develop. It is pro active to the ultimate degree and its very exciting. Its the most fair format and the most unfairso like having one foot in a fire and the other in ice, mostly things are great in the middle of it all :-)except for the no pop off/line break rulethat's not goodbecause when it happens to someone of our friends, it sucks the fun out of the day and voids the result as being a'man on man' result. I won't ever agree that its justified or good for the hobbybut I'll continue to enjoy the events and respect the people doing the work and making the decisions. Gordy New Columbia, PA tonite
Re: [RCSE] pop offs...not good, rule worse
Remember you guys attended a CONTEST and those things tend to reward the best teams (pilot, plane and timer) for that day. The CD went over the rules during the pilots meeting. I pity the the fool that don't pay attention at the pilots meeting. Sorry you got the fun sucked out of you and your friend. Bruce Davidson Louisville, KY
[RCSE] Soprano Feedback
Ok, so who's flying a Soprano out there? Let's hear some feedback! I would like a big RES plane and am trying to decide between Soprano and AVA. Cheers - Jim Laurel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
