Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. At 02:58 PM 6/28/2005, Steve Meyer wrote: Taking the latest published registration information at http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html I have compiled the following. 3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2% 16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8% 1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9% 5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6% 9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7% 3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class! 2 pilots registered in Jr / Sr class 20 pilots are registered for HLG and F3J - 35.7% 20 pilots are registered for HLG and 2M - 20.6% 21 pilots are registered for HLG and UNL - 15.8% 8 pilots are registered for HLG and RES - 7.6% 36 pilots are registered for F3J and 2M - 36.4% 40 pilots are registered for F3J and UNL - 30.3% 20 pilots are registered for F3J and RES - 18.0% 81 pilots are registered for 2M and UNL - 61.4% 55 pilots are registered for 2M and RES - 48.2% 73 pilots are registered for UNL and RES - 53.7% (Accuracy 2% - 9% depending on sample because of missing data.) I have surmised the following. It appears that 2M and F3J pilots are the most versatile. Entering in more events The closer the events are together the better the cross participation. RES needs to replace one day of 2 Meter. :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF V #117 //home.comcast.net/~strotherbj RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR Module Redux
Friends, the offeri had for amodule for a JR 388 on 19 fell through. so i'm back to square one again. anyone out there got one available? Thanks Dana
[RCSE] RE: Module Redux
My sincere thanks to all of you who have offered other channels, but it's a post i reada little while agoled me to believe that the freq matrices have been set for the NATS, so i don't think switching channels is a possibility. As to the number of offers of help i've received: like iwrote to Bruce Herider when HE offered to help, there isn't a better group of people out there than the soaring community! Still looking for that module! Dana
[RCSE] YASOIHLGFP - Yet Another Set of IHGLF Pictures :)
Hey guys, Quoting Oleg Golovidov, But it is still fun to look at [the pictures] while the memories are fresh. Well maybe it's been so long since the event now that it be fun to look back recall the fun you had. Anyway, here are my pictures from Poway. I've got a pretty speedy camera (8fps), so a good bit of my pictures are launches. You'd be amazed how much yaw Phil Barnes has on his launches. ;-) http://photo.charles.cc/photos/view.php?dir=2005.06.04+Intl+Hand+Launch+Glider+Festival+-+Day+1 http://photo.charles.cc/photos/view.php?dir=2005.06.05+Intl+Hand+Launch+Glider+Festival+-+Day+2 Also, there's my pictures from Parker Mountain on the Monday after the contest. These are the pictures including Joe (Wurts) and Micheal (from England) playing Peg the Bigred bottle on top of the stick with your Foamie. It's pretty funny, check it out... http://photo.charles.cc/photos/view.php?dir=2005.06.06+Parker+Mountain+Sloping See if you can find the two where Joe peg's the bottle, and then the stick itself, those are my favorites. -Charles BTW - And if those links don't work (are too long) for anybody, you can just go here and the links you're looking for are right there: http://photo.charles.cc/photos RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Looking for a 4th for F3J at the Nats
Our Team foe the Nats Craig Greening, Joe Newcombe, and my self, seem to have lost our 4th team member for the Nats. If there is someone looking for a Team to fly F3J with at the Nats ? Please contact me off line. Thanks Larry Jolly
[RCSE] Howard Stone
Howard, please contact me. Denny Maize Polecat Aero 717-789-0146 www.polecataero.com
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. At 02:58 PM 6/28/2005, Steve Meyer wrote: Taking the latest published registration information at http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html I have compiled the following. 3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2% 16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8% 1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9% 5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6% 9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7% 3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class! 2 pilots registered in Jr / Sr class 20 pilots are registered for HLG and F3J - 35.7% 20 pilots are registered for HLG and 2M - 20.6% 21 pilots are registered for HLG and UNL - 15.8% 8 pilots are registered for HLG and RES - 7.6% 36 pilots are registered for F3J and 2M - 36.4% 40 pilots are registered for F3J and UNL - 30.3% 20 pilots are registered for F3J and RES - 18.0% 81 pilots are registered for 2M and UNL - 61.4% 55 pilots are registered for 2M and RES - 48.2% 73 pilots are registered for UNL and RES - 53.7% (Accuracy 2% - 9% depending on sample because of missing data.) I have surmised the following. It appears that 2M and F3J pilots are the most versatile. Entering in more events The closer the events are together the better the cross participation. RES needs to replace one day of 2 Meter. :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF V #117 //home.comcast.net/~strotherbj RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, you wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin 2-meter doesn't take any more talent than unlimited or standard class. Just better vision. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
He is entered and flying in it, are you? At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
I know that Chuck. :^) But many will disagree. Justin - Original Message - From: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, you wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin 2-meter doesn't take any more talent than unlimited or standard class. Just better vision. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
He is entered and flying in it, are you? I guess you are entered for 2005, I don't see your name in the scores from 2004... I guess we will see you demonstrate your 2m skills in Muncie in a few weeks, I can't wait. 8-) At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Everything but NOS...It's real easy to check. http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html Justin Ammon - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter He is entered and flying in it, are you? At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: -Death to 2-meter
2-meter doesn't take any more talent than unlimited or standard class. Just better vision. Except for the fact that in the given visible range of the 2m. there will be less thermal opportunities. M.Mech www.aerofoam.com This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Jim, Dude ligthen up a little. When you get a chance to meet Justin, you will find he is a really good guy and darn fine stick as well. See Ya, Pat (wishing I was going to the Nats) McCleave From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/29 Wed AM 11:58:58 EDT To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter He is entered and flying in it, are you? I guess you are entered for 2005, I don't see your name in the scores from 2004... I guess we will see you demonstrate your 2m skills in Muncie in a few weeks, I can't wait. 8-) At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Jim, Don't hold your breath for any special show of talent, but I do enjoy flying all of the classes...Well...Except for maybe RES, but I guess I can catch up on some sleep during the flights... Sorry I didn't make it in 2004. It is a touch further for me than a quick trip from Illinois. Justin (btw, the res thing is a joke) - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter He is entered and flying in it, are you? I guess you are entered for 2005, I don't see your name in the scores from 2004... I guess we will see you demonstrate your 2m skills in Muncie in a few weeks, I can't wait. 8-) At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: -Death to 2-meter
Guys, I have to both agree and disagree with what Chuck said about two meter planes. I agree they are harder to see at distance but have to disagree that they are not harder to fly well. The performance level of most if not all 2M's is not on par with the bigger planes and they are more difficult to fly smooth than the bigger birds. Yes I know there are guys out there that win big contests on occasion (Spring Fling Comes to Mind) flying 2M's but Mr McGowan is the exception to the rule. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/29 Wed PM 12:12:31 EDT To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: -Death to 2-meter 2-meter doesn't take any more talent than unlimited or standard class. Just better vision. Except for the fact that in the given visible range of the 2m. there will be less thermal opportunities. M.Mech www.aerofoam.com This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
I'm totally being light on him... 8-) (Like I said, I can't wait to see him fly) I figured he must have big game to tell a past LSF president (a guy who has overseen the running of the Nats several years) and a present Level V guy, that the reason he might want to get rid of 2m is lack of talent or skill. Of course he put a smiley on it so I know he said it in a humorous way, and so am I... 8-) At 11:13 AM 6/29/2005, Pat McCleave wrote: Jim, Dude ligthen up a little. When you get a chance to meet Justin, you will find he is a really good guy and darn fine stick as well. See Ya, Pat (wishing I was going to the Nats) McCleave From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/29 Wed AM 11:58:58 EDT To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter He is entered and flying in it, are you? I guess you are entered for 2005, I don't see your name in the scores from 2004... I guess we will see you demonstrate your 2m skills in Muncie in a few weeks, I can't wait. 8-) At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Death to 2-meter
I fly fly both 2m and 3m planes. The 3m is a lot easier to keep in the air -- its easier to see, its more stable and you get a lot more 'float' in not-so-good air -- but its nowhere near as convenient as a 2m to carry around. One advantage to flying 2meter regularily is that when you do fly a larger plane its s easy..you've got to do one or two flights to get the larger plane trimmed up and the scale right (you tend to go too long on approaches which isn't a good idea if there are power lines at that end of the field!) but then its just pure recreation. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good - Good-bye 2M
I have limited time and resources to collect and fly sailplane in more than 4 classes. I figured I would concentrate on HLG, Unlimited/F3J, XC, and as soon as I can sell my 2M, RES. Oh BTW anyone need a Super V 2M ready to fly? Best launching 2M out there. Only for the most talented pilots. :-) Can deliver at the NATS. Steven Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 11:22 AM 6/29/2005, James V. Bacus wrote: I'm totally being light on him... 8-) (Like I said, I can't wait to see him fly) I figured he must have big game to tell a past LSF president (a guy who has overseen the running of the Nats several years) and a present Level V guy, that the reason he might want to get rid of 2m is lack of talent or skill. Of course he put a smiley on it so I know he said it in a humorous way, and so am I... 8-) At 11:13 AM 6/29/2005, Pat McCleave wrote: Jim, Dude ligthen up a little. When you get a chance to meet Justin, you will find he is a really good guy and darn fine stick as well. See Ya, Pat (wishing I was going to the Nats) McCleave From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/29 Wed AM 11:58:58 EDT To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter He is entered and flying in it, are you? I guess you are entered for 2005, I don't see your name in the scores from 2004... I guess we will see you demonstrate your 2m skills in Muncie in a few weeks, I can't wait. 8-) At 10:18 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Yup, I agree! We should get rid of all classes that might take some real talent and skill to fly well in. Justin - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good This is kool Stuff.. Thanks !! 2-M can go as far as I am concerned as well.. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Friends don't let friends fly 2M. Anyway, if you want classes that require real skill, I look forward to you entering F3b at next years Nats. I know Chuck won't be at any of those F.. class events. ;-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
I will. I was entered in the F3B event in Eloy until it was canceled. We are working to get another site for this event. Justin (will fly anything anytime) - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter Friends don't let friends fly 2M. Anyway, if you want classes that require real skill, I look forward to you entering F3b at next years Nats. I know Chuck won't be at any of those F.. class events. ;-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Don't worry Mike. I won't let you fly my two meter. :-) Cal Posthuma LSF VV Personal Web Page http://www.altelco.net/~calplsf/index.html Home of Solenoid LED's - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter Friends don't let friends fly 2M. Anyway, if you want classes that require real skill, I look forward to you entering F3b at next years Nats. I know Chuck won't be at any of those F.. class events. ;-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Friends don't let friends discuss already out-discussed topics on RCSE. This belongs with down-wind turns, counter-clockwise thermals, etc. Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
At 11:57 AM 6/29/2005, you wrote: Friends don't let friends discuss already out-discussed topics on RCSE. This belongs with down-wind turns, counter-clockwise thermals, etc. Anker But dynamic soaring is downwind turns. Don't discuss that either? :-) Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Life to 2M was Re: -Death to 2-meter
On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Pat McCleave wrote: Guys, I have to both agree and disagree with what Chuck said about two meter planes. I agree they are harder to see at distance but have to disagree that they are not harder to fly well. The performance level of most if not all 2M's is not on par with the bigger planes and they are more difficult to fly smooth than the bigger birds. Yeah. I gotta agree with both comments. They are a bit harder to see and this limits the ability to see lift signals. And range is an issue. I've been flying open class planes most all year and last weekend went out with only 2M planes. My Laser is well set up but I had a difficult time getting smooth thermal turns. I made the effort to fly it smoothly and really could tell the difference in flight behavior, the 2M is significantly more difficult for me. That to me is not necessarily bad. Spending time with the plane that is more challenging to fly well should translate into flying the bigger planes better. Perhaps not, we'll see. I will be flying my 2M a lot more in the near future just because I like flying it. As fate would have it, I was out flying with Les Grammer who was tuning up his ICON. We hit a boomer thermal and both planes were wy up there. My 2M was bouncing around in very buoyant air and difficult to fly smoothly as I could not always see exactly what it was doing while his ICON was huge by comparison and lots easier to read. (I tried to watch him as well as my planewhen I wasn't watching the two big hawks that were working the same lift. It was a grand flight! :-) ) Cheers, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Paging D O Darnell
Would you ping me. Need info on your Discus Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse
IN THEORY, spreading the ballast out span-wise in the wing will increase the roll inertia, and thus require more aileron to get the same reaction. In practice, if the ballast is within 0-18 inches of the centerline on a 10 ft wing, not much will change. IN THEORY, making a long ballast tube in the fuse will increase the pitch inertia, thus requiring more elevator to start the pitch, and also more tendency to keep rotating when the turn should be over. However, even in my biggest and heaviest planes, the overall length of the ballast within the tube is only 13 inches, so even the last slugs are only 6 in from the CG. With a tail arm of maybe 25-30 inches, it is not too hard to make the plane pitch. Some ace pilots have told me just how different their planes are, depending on ballast configuration, but I am too numb, too dumb to see much of an effect myself. However, there are structural loading advantages to having the weight distributed in the wing. Bill DelHagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:31:25 -0700 hi all, you guys where so good on my last question i have another for you guys. some planes take ballast in the fuse and others in the wing. is there any penalties you pay in performance say for a wing that is fully ballast, compared to a fuse full. i'm talking 2lb. to 4lb. of ballast, so the ballast will be 12'' to 16'' on both sides of the wing half. thanks, Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Roo sightings
According to South Bend TV reports, our own Cap'n Jack may be able to provide a real Roo sighting from the Red Hen sod farm near South Bend. Keep your eyes open, Jack! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.6/33 - Release Date: 6/28/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Roo sightings
Jim You may want to be a little careful about this report. I know the "cap'n" personally and there have been times when he "saw" things the rest of us couldn't see:-))) Denny Maize Polecat Aero 717-789-0146 www.polecataero.com
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
At 11:14 AM 6/29/2005, Justin Ammon wrote: Jim, Don't hold your breath for any special show of talent, but I do enjoy flying all of the classes...Well...Except for maybe RES, but I guess I can catch up on some sleep during the flights... None the less, now I am looking forward to meeting you... it's going to be a great time. 8-) Sorry I didn't make it in 2004. It is a touch further for me than a quick trip from Illinois. 5 hour drive from my part of Illinois, not really a quick trip. But it was never about the travelling for me, (I travel to a lot of contests, I've contested in AZ before). It's about getting time away from my business (which I own a major part of), there is no vacation for small business owners. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Roo sightings
Mr. Deck, is Roo with you? 8-) Will Roo be in Muncie? At 04:12 PM 6/29/2005, Jim Deck wrote: According to South Bend TV reports, our own Cap'n Jack may be able to provide a real Roo sighting from the Red Hen sod farm near South Bend. Keep your eyes open, Jack! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Trio NATS Special
I have a few Trios that are on special. $625.00 plus shipping or can deliver to the NATS. http://www.isthmusmodels.com/pages/trio.html First Come First Served! Mark Miller __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
(I travel to a lot of contests, I've contested in AZ before). JB - Wasn't it you that got an actual measured 0 on an AMA tape in AZ? If it wasn't you... who the heck was that? That cracked me up... ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] can pickup builds at Nats.
hi, i'm planning on being at the Nats. midweek if anyone wants to save on some shipping one way. there will be some of my work to be seen there from former customers. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse
Hi Jim, If you do the calculations, or a practical test, you will see that a minor error in placement of the ballast has a negligible effect on CG position. For example, if you put 400g of ballast 5mm from the unballasted CG in a model weighing 2000g the CG will only move 1mm, and you will not notice the difference. In practice the potential for error is greater with fuselage mounted ballast tubes, particularly if ballast slugs are used rather than one piece ballast bars. If you accidentally load the wrong configuration of lead slugs and wooden packers you could move the CG a long way. I am currently flying an Ellipse 4. I have made several ballast bars of different weights. I spent some time getting them reasonably accurate and now there is no chance of error when installing them at the field. However, fuselage mounted ballast tubes are often designed in such a way that only short slugs can be used. In that case you have to take great care every time you add ballast. * Ian RoachKiama, NSW Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 2 4232 1775 * -Original Message- From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 3:45 PM To: D Hauch Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse I just don't understand the concept of wing ballast. It would seem to me that it assumes a particular CG, right? If the ballast in the wing isn't right on the CG, doesn't it mean that the cg actually changes depending on how much ballast is put in there? Seems a dubious solution to me. I think only Don Peters got it right when we designed the Icon ballast system. Simple. Ingenious. Practical. I never could understand why the European makers don't adopt the concentric rod system like the Icon. -Jim On Jun 28, 2005, at 11:31 PM, D Hauch wrote: hi all, you guys where so good on my last question i have another for you guys. some planes take ballast in the fuse and others in the wing. is there any penalties you pay in performance say for a wing that is fully ballast, compared to a fuse full. i'm talking 2lb. to 4lb. of ballast, so the ballast will be 12'' to 16'' on both sides of the wing half. thanks, Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
Couldn't see paying that much for three flights plus another night in the motel. We flew four rounds last yerar of each RES and NOS if I remember right and that was after a bit of a late start. . I am through flying Nostalgia class until we start flying Nostalgia tasks just like we flew before 1908. What is the difference in what is done now from back in the 70's, the first contest I went to in Fort Worth at MESS was 10's I think all day long, not any different from 2005 I would not say. Just wondering. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Planes for sale
I have an F3F Tempest, and a Millennium for sale. Price depends onwether you want them with or without servos Steve Situm (415) 456-2996
[RCSE] EVO 9 Synth FS
I have a little used Evo 9 Synth for sale. $400.00 plus shipping. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Flaps or spoilers?
In a message dated 6/28/2005 5:12:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an old Davey Systems Prophet kit that I want to build and then fly at Bluff Park in Long Beach, Calif. Those of you who fly there know what a small landing area exists there. The Prophet is a 2M, and some kind of additional flight control is required for safe landings. I recently flew a Prophet 941 (100 inches, rudder/elevator only) there, and although it flew wonderfully, I had trouble landing it. It’s not easy to land such a large ship there without the aid of flaps or spoilers. For landing at Bluff Park, which is better: flaps or spoilers? I don’t want to invest in a computer radio; so I need to use the basic radio I have. Does anyone still make mechanical mixers for flaps? If you recommend spoilers, can you also recommend a slop-free spoiler linkage system? The Prophet also has an extra plan sheet that shows a modification for ailerons and flaps. Should I consider that modification for slope flying? Many thanks! Scott Martin Chandler, Arizona
[RCSE] Re: Flaps or spoilers?
I have flown at Bluff park for many years, but not recently. Have successfully landed 4 meter scale ships as heavy as 9 pounds, and HLG's as light as 9 ounces, and everything in betweenon the grass at the top. Big and heavy is probably easier than floaty and light. Ailerons help a LOT when landing at Bluff Park,but spoilers would probably be better than flaps if you must stick with a polyhedral ship. There tends to be strong rotor along the top behind the railing, so landing speed should be kept high, and spoilers do a better job of giving a high sink rate at high speed, thus allowing you to punch through the rotor and fly the ship onto the ground. Flaps reduce flying speed and let the plane get tossed about more by the turbulence. The trick to landing anything that's not a foamie at Bluff park is to fly very low parallel to the railing, as much as half way down the face of the slope, then pop over and down using any headwind component available. The wind usually is cross from the right as you look out to sea, so the normal landing would use an approach from the left. In a message dated 6/28/2005 5:12:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an old Davey Systems Prophet kit that I want to build and then fly at Bluff Park in Long Beach, Calif. Those of you who fly there know what a small landing area exists there. The Prophet is a 2M, and some kind of additional flight control is required for safe landings. I recently flew a Prophet 941 (100 inches, rudder/elevator only) there, and although it flew wonderfully, I had trouble landing it. It’s not easy to land such a large ship there without the aid of flaps or spoilers. For landing at Bluff Park, which is better: flaps or spoilers? I don’t want to invest in a computer radio; so I need to use the basic radio I have. Does anyone still make mechanical mixers for flaps? If you recommend spoilers, can you also recommend a slop-free spoiler linkage system? The Prophet also has an extra plan sheet that shows a modification for ailerons and flaps. Should I consider that modification for slope flying? Many thanks! Scott Martin Chandler, Arizona
[RCSE] painting monocote
Greetings! Is it possible to paint Monocote or other heat shrink coverings? Which paints work best? Anything I should watch our for before I start? Thanks, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter
Heh heh heh... ya, your memory is excellent... (Q: What's worse than having a close zero landing? A: Having DP confirm it for you.) At 06:28 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote: (I travel to a lot of contests, I've contested in AZ before). JB - Wasn't it you that got an actual measured 0 on an AMA tape in AZ? If it wasn't you... who the heck was that? That cracked me up... ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] painting monocote
Bill, I know you can paint Monokote if you scuff it first with fine steel wool - I've used the Lustrekote paint with good results. Cautions - make sure the surface is completely tight first. You can get detailed instructions on the Top Flite website at:http://www.monokote.com/lustrekote/painting- tips/topr7200tip1.html. Bruce --- Original Message --- From: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Yahoo Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] painting monocote Greetings! Is it possible to paint Monocote or other heat shrink coverings? Which paints work best? Anything I should watch our for before I start? Thanks, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse
Ian, Good point on the fuse ballast when using slugs. All my fuse ballasted planes use different weight bars, tubes or slabs but all the same dimensions with the centre of the weight at the CG. I use aluminum, brass, steel or lead and can vary the weight through a wide range without changing the CG. Care would be prudent if you used slugs and spacers to get an even distribution of weight. -- Greg Smith Slope Soaring Resource http://www.slopeflyer.com US distributor for Wizard Compact II, Opus DS V, Majko, Airtech models and PCM Erwin 5 models. From: Ian Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:31:37 +1000 To: Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED], D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse Hi Jim, If you do the calculations, or a practical test, you will see that a minor error in placement of the ballast has a negligible effect on CG position. For example, if you put 400g of ballast 5mm from the unballasted CG in a model weighing 2000g the CG will only move 1mm, and you will not notice the difference. In practice the potential for error is greater with fuselage mounted ballast tubes, particularly if ballast slugs are used rather than one piece ballast bars. If you accidentally load the wrong configuration of lead slugs and wooden packers you could move the CG a long way. I am currently flying an Ellipse 4. I have made several ballast bars of different weights. I spent some time getting them reasonably accurate and now there is no chance of error when installing them at the field. However, fuselage mounted ballast tubes are often designed in such a way that only short slugs can be used. In that case you have to take great care every time you add ballast. * Ian RoachKiama, NSW Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 2 4232 1775 * -Original Message- From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 3:45 PM To: D Hauch Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse I just don't understand the concept of wing ballast. It would seem to me that it assumes a particular CG, right? If the ballast in the wing isn't right on the CG, doesn't it mean that the cg actually changes depending on how much ballast is put in there? Seems a dubious solution to me. I think only Don Peters got it right when we designed the Icon ballast system. Simple. Ingenious. Practical. I never could understand why the European makers don't adopt the concentric rod system like the Icon. -Jim On Jun 28, 2005, at 11:31 PM, D Hauch wrote: hi all, you guys where so good on my last question i have another for you guys. some planes take ballast in the fuse and others in the wing. is there any penalties you pay in performance say for a wing that is fully ballast, compared to a fuse full. i'm talking 2lb. to 4lb. of ballast, so the ballast will be 12'' to 16'' on both sides of the wing half. thanks, Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] painting monocote
Has any body tried that FUSION paint advertised on TV? Does it work on Duralene or Monokote? Inquiring minds would like to know ;^)) Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
