[RCSE] Los Banos 2006 Scale Sailplane Event next weekend

2006-04-16 Thread Bruce DeVisser
Next weekend April 22 - 23, 2006 will be the 13th annual Los Banos Scale
event. In spite of the unusually heavy rains, the site is in good condition,
it just needs a good mowing, which the Park Rangers will take care of this
week.

We are expecting a good turnout, and with the weather outlook becoming drier
there should be excellent soaring, (and cross your fingers) good wind for
slope soaring.

Come on out and soar!

Bruce DeVisser
South Bay Soaring Society
www.sbss.org

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[RCSE] Re: Need a wing joiner rod for Dodgeson Windsong

2006-04-16 Thread MSu1049321
This plane is almost fully restored, and wouldn't you know it, the wing rod has gone missing, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don;t have measurements at the moment, but if you know you have a rod to spare, I'll buy it off of you. That usually makes the missing part reappear, buying it's replacement:-P


Re: [RCSE] Push Rods

2006-04-16 Thread Erica and or Rob
Hey now,
Maybe you're using the wrong flux? Rosin flux won't work, you need
acid flux to sloder to steel. Don't get your electronics close to it
though, corrosion city!
RobII

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Erica Frank  Rob Carter II
I believe in nothing; everything is sacred.
 I believe in everything; nothing is sacred.  --The Chink

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Shape wrote:

 I'm working on a new plane that has.080 steel push rods and they don't seem
 to solder well. I have sanded them, fluxed them and all the solder does is
 bead up. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong.
 Jerry

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FW: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

2006-04-16 Thread Sheldon-YNT uDesign
OK, since the original This sounds interesting popped-up on RCSE, I
thought I'd share my first Huh...Where'd that tree come from experience
with everyone. I'm sure parts of it will give somebody a chuckle...
 
~Sheldon-YNT~
 
PS: Sailplanes can be so cruel sometimes...G



This is kinda' long and I may have missed some of the details but here are
the salient points:

1.  Rewire my Graupner winch for the new Clipper footswitch I got from
Injoy
2.  Winch doesn't work (strike 1), better go to Erie  have Reece look
at it to make sure it was wired right (it was)...Besides, we can fly (what
an excuse!)
3.  Plan on leaving at 6:30am, left almost an hour later (strike 2)
4.  Get to Reece  Mindy's, Reece applies power to winch in launch
position, magic smoke starts escaping (never a good sign)
5.  Follow Reece to airport,  start setting up his winch
6.  Drive Mindy's van and mine down the far side of the runway, reeling
out line...

1.  Sheldon: That should be enough
2.  Reece: Nawww...I want it all out
3.  Sheldon: It's pretty soft out here...That should be enough
for us
4.  Reece: All of it, besides, it's drier up ahead
5.  Sheldon: OK...You da' boss
7.  Less than 10 seconds later...Reece has Mindy's van stuck...Damn!
(strike 3)
8.  Reece, gets out, checks  decides I should give him a little nudge
to get him going
9.  BIG mistake! Now my van is stuck as well...Damn, damn, damn! (strike
4...NOTE: we should have known by this time...(sigh)...)
10. Airport manager lives on-field...Uhhh Mark, We've got BOTH vans
stuck, can you pull us out with your 4wd? Sure no problem  don' t go down
there again, it's too soft (Like we don't know this now???)
11. Mark pulls both vans out of the muck,  we finish setting the winch.
At this point it would be prudent to mention that we are now positioned appx
where Sheldon had said earlier that's should be enough (as noted above)
12. A bit of confusion setting up the retriever...A phone call solves
that puzzle
13. Wind is blowing about 10-13, with gusts upwards of 17. We launch...A
short but adequate flight, add a couple of click of down to keep the speed
upwind, with a landing that is not too bad, although somewhat distant. Put
in several short flights with the Soprano, a couple of pop-offs included,
something is still not right with the retriever.
14. Damn, that last landing I slowed it down too much, hooked the wing
tip landing it! (strike 5)
15. OK, we think we have the retriever problem resolved, lets launch
again
16. Launch again...Pop-off...A LOT lower than before, and Reece says
just fly straight-out
17. I think he means fly straight-out until I get some speed up (he
actually meant land it straight-out)
18. I've got airspeed, so I swing downwind, intending to just make an
approach  land, start to make my upwind turn for final...No rudder!
19. Then all of a sudden I have rudder, but it's too late...By about 10
feet, and the Soprano is in a tree...Damn, damn, damn! (strike 6)
20. We make the hike across the field  look up...WOW! It's REALLY in
there good...flew right into the crotch of a limb that extends straight-out
into the flight path, with branches capturing it top, bottom, etc. Then we
look down, the trees are in the middle of a bog, nasty! Now there's dry
land on either side of the trees, but the tree itself is in the middle of
the bog! (strike 7)
21. Weight a line, trying to get it over the fuselage (maybe we can
pull it backwards to free it???). After MANY attempts, we do get a line
over it, but no dice, this is not going well. This is not happening!
22. Reece calls his buddy Jay (who lives on-site) and says Hey! Get you
ass out of bed  come help us get an airplane out of a tree at the east end
of the runway!)
23. Jay shows up about 20 minutes later, looks,  says no problem, 
proceeds to walk a fallen tree to the other dry side.
24. Reece spies a deer stand  against a tree about 50' away...Hey Jay,
wait a minute...We got a deer stand ladder down there! So we go retrieve it
and get it across to Jay. Reece says go get your radio, Jay says if he gets
to it he'll just toss it and we can fly it down... get me a bottle of water
out of the van too.
25. Go to the van  by the time I get back, Jay is already up in the
tree  almost to the plane (How the hell did he do that???)
26. Jay is at the plane, gets it loose,  says: How hard do I have to
throw this? Reece says it takes nothin'! Jay: OK, but I'll have to throw it
with the wing on the diagonal, I can't throw it flat. Reece: Just toss it!
27. Now you have to picture Jay, perched precariously out on a (not very
substantial limb), with a 10' glider, in a 12mph wind, trying to throw it
out of the tree, with one wingtip at a 45 degree angle up, at about a 45
degree angle to the wind. Surely this thing is gonna blow right over!!!
28.

Re: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

2006-04-16 Thread Pat McCleave

Sheldon,

I guess the real question is.  Did you have fun?

See Ya ,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS


- Original Message - 
From: Sheldon-YNT uDesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: FW: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story



OK, since the original This sounds interesting popped-up on RCSE, I
thought I'd share my first Huh...Where'd that tree come from 
experience

with everyone. I'm sure parts of it will give somebody a chuckle...

~Sheldon-YNT~

PS: Sailplanes can be so cruel sometimes...G



This is kinda' long and I may have missed some of the details but here 
are

the salient points:

1. Rewire my Graupner winch for the new Clipper footswitch I got from
Injoy
2. Winch doesn't work (strike 1), better go to Erie  have Reece look
at it to make sure it was wired right (it was)...Besides, we can fly (what
an excuse!)
3. Plan on leaving at 6:30am, left almost an hour later (strike 2)
4. Get to Reece  Mindy's, Reece applies power to winch in launch
position, magic smoke starts escaping (never a good sign)
5. Follow Reece to airport,  start setting up his winch
6. Drive Mindy's van and mine down the far side of the runway, reeling
out line...

1. Sheldon: That should be enough
2. Reece: Nawww...I want it all out
3. Sheldon: It's pretty soft out here...That should be enough
for us
4. Reece: All of it, besides, it's drier up ahead
5. Sheldon: OK...You da' boss
7. Less than 10 seconds later...Reece has Mindy's van stuck...Damn!
(strike 3)
8. Reece, gets out, checks  decides I should give him a little nudge
to get him going
9. BIG mistake! Now my van is stuck as well...Damn, damn, damn! (strike
4...NOTE: we should have known by this time...(sigh)...)
10. Airport manager lives on-field...Uhhh Mark, We've got BOTH vans
stuck, can you pull us out with your 4wd? Sure no problem  don' t go down
there again, it's too soft (Like we don't know this now???)
11. Mark pulls both vans out of the muck,  we finish setting the winch.
At this point it would be prudent to mention that we are now positioned 
appx

where Sheldon had said earlier that's should be enough (as noted above)
12. A bit of confusion setting up the retriever...A phone call solves
that puzzle
13. Wind is blowing about 10-13, with gusts upwards of 17. We launch...A
short but adequate flight, add a couple of click of down to keep the speed
upwind, with a landing that is not too bad, although somewhat distant. Put
in several short flights with the Soprano, a couple of pop-offs included,
something is still not right with the retriever.
14. Damn, that last landing I slowed it down too much, hooked the wing
tip landing it! (strike 5)
15. OK, we think we have the retriever problem resolved, lets launch
again
16. Launch again...Pop-off...A LOT lower than before, and Reece says
just fly straight-out
17. I think he means fly straight-out until I get some speed up (he
actually meant land it straight-out)
18. I've got airspeed, so I swing downwind, intending to just make an
approach  land, start to make my upwind turn for final...No rudder!
19. Then all of a sudden I have rudder, but it's too late...By about 10
feet, and the Soprano is in a tree...Damn, damn, damn! (strike 6)
20. We make the hike across the field  look up...WOW! It's REALLY in
there good...flew right into the crotch of a limb that extends 
straight-out

into the flight path, with branches capturing it top, bottom, etc. Then we
look down, the trees are in the middle of a bog, nasty! Now there's dry
land on either side of the trees, but the tree itself is in the middle of
the bog! (strike 7)
21. Weight a line, trying to get it over the fuselage (maybe we can
pull it backwards to free it???). After MANY attempts, we do get a line
over it, but no dice, this is not going well. This is not happening!
22. Reece calls his buddy Jay (who lives on-site) and says Hey! Get you
ass out of bed  come help us get an airplane out of a tree at the east 
end

of the runway!)
23. Jay shows up about 20 minutes later, looks,  says no problem, 
proceeds to walk a fallen tree to the other dry side.
24. Reece spies a deer stand  against a tree about 50' away...Hey Jay,
wait a minute...We got a deer stand ladder down there! So we go retrieve 
it
and get it across to Jay. Reece says go get your radio, Jay says if he 
gets
to it he'll just toss it and we can fly it down... get me a bottle of 
water

out of the van too.
25. Go to the van  by the time I get back, Jay is already up in the
tree  almost to the plane (How the hell did he do that???)
26. Jay is at the plane, gets it loose,  says: How hard do I have to
throw this? Reece says it takes nothin'! Jay: OK, but I'll have to throw 
it

with the wing on the diagonal, I can't throw it flat. Reece: Just toss it!
27. Now you have to picture Jay, perched precariously out on a (not very
substantial limb), with a 10' glider, in a 12mph wind, trying to throw it
out of the 

Re: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

2006-04-16 Thread inventorforhire
It's like getting up at 4 am driving 2 hours and then trudging 5 miles into 
the woods in 20 degree temperatures and sitting still for 8 or more hours 
waiting for a deer or turkey.  You manage to see one or two, but never 
within range.  Then trudging out and driving back home for a good 16 hour 
day.  You know that home is the best thing ever and this makes you really 
appreciate it.  You of course have to tell the wife you had a great 
time...




- Original Message - 
From: Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story



Sheldon,

I guess the real question is.  Did you have fun?

See Ya ,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS


- Original Message - 
From: Sheldon-YNT uDesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: FW: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story



OK, since the original This sounds interesting popped-up on RCSE, I
thought I'd share my first Huh...Where'd that tree come from 
experience

with everyone. I'm sure parts of it will give somebody a chuckle...

~Sheldon-YNT~

PS: Sailplanes can be so cruel sometimes...G



This is kinda' long and I may have missed some of the details but here 
are

the salient points:

1. Rewire my Graupner winch for the new Clipper footswitch I got from
Injoy
2. Winch doesn't work (strike 1), better go to Erie  have Reece look
at it to make sure it was wired right (it was)...Besides, we can fly 
(what

an excuse!)
3. Plan on leaving at 6:30am, left almost an hour later (strike 2)
4. Get to Reece  Mindy's, Reece applies power to winch in launch
position, magic smoke starts escaping (never a good sign)
5. Follow Reece to airport,  start setting up his winch
6. Drive Mindy's van and mine down the far side of the runway, reeling
out line...

1. Sheldon: That should be enough
2. Reece: Nawww...I want it all out
3. Sheldon: It's pretty soft out here...That should be enough
for us
4. Reece: All of it, besides, it's drier up ahead
5. Sheldon: OK...You da' boss
7. Less than 10 seconds later...Reece has Mindy's van stuck...Damn!
(strike 3)
8. Reece, gets out, checks  decides I should give him a little nudge
to get him going
9. BIG mistake! Now my van is stuck as well...Damn, damn, damn! (strike
4...NOTE: we should have known by this time...(sigh)...)
10. Airport manager lives on-field...Uhhh Mark, We've got BOTH vans
stuck, can you pull us out with your 4wd? Sure no problem  don' t go 
down

there again, it's too soft (Like we don't know this now???)
11. Mark pulls both vans out of the muck,  we finish setting the winch.
At this point it would be prudent to mention that we are now positioned 
appx

where Sheldon had said earlier that's should be enough (as noted above)
12. A bit of confusion setting up the retriever...A phone call solves
that puzzle
13. Wind is blowing about 10-13, with gusts upwards of 17. We launch...A
short but adequate flight, add a couple of click of down to keep the 
speed
upwind, with a landing that is not too bad, although somewhat distant. 
Put

in several short flights with the Soprano, a couple of pop-offs included,
something is still not right with the retriever.
14. Damn, that last landing I slowed it down too much, hooked the wing
tip landing it! (strike 5)
15. OK, we think we have the retriever problem resolved, lets launch
again
16. Launch again...Pop-off...A LOT lower than before, and Reece says
just fly straight-out
17. I think he means fly straight-out until I get some speed up (he
actually meant land it straight-out)
18. I've got airspeed, so I swing downwind, intending to just make an
approach  land, start to make my upwind turn for final...No rudder!
19. Then all of a sudden I have rudder, but it's too late...By about 10
feet, and the Soprano is in a tree...Damn, damn, damn! (strike 6)
20. We make the hike across the field  look up...WOW! It's REALLY in
there good...flew right into the crotch of a limb that extends 
straight-out
into the flight path, with branches capturing it top, bottom, etc. Then 
we

look down, the trees are in the middle of a bog, nasty! Now there's dry
land on either side of the trees, but the tree itself is in the middle of
the bog! (strike 7)
21. Weight a line, trying to get it over the fuselage (maybe we can
pull it backwards to free it???). After MANY attempts, we do get a line
over it, but no dice, this is not going well. This is not happening!
22. Reece calls his buddy Jay (who lives on-site) and says Hey! Get you
ass out of bed  come help us get an airplane out of a tree at the east 
end

of the runway!)
23. Jay shows up about 20 minutes later, looks,  says no problem, 
proceeds to walk a fallen tree to the other dry side.
24. Reece spies a deer stand  against a tree about 50' away...Hey Jay,
wait a minute...We got a deer stand ladder down there! So we go retrieve 
it

RE: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

2006-04-16 Thread Sheldon-YNT uDesign
You bet Is there any way not to have fun with a sailplane? G 

-Original Message-
From: Pat McCleave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: RCSE
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

Sheldon,

I guess the real question is.  Did you have fun?

See Ya ,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS


- Original Message -
From: Sheldon-YNT uDesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: FW: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story


 OK, since the original This sounds interesting popped-up on RCSE, I
 thought I'd share my first Huh...Where'd that tree come from 
 experience
 with everyone. I'm sure parts of it will give somebody a chuckle...

 ~Sheldon-YNT~

 PS: Sailplanes can be so cruel sometimes...G

 

 This is kinda' long and I may have missed some of the details but here 
 are
 the salient points:

 1. Rewire my Graupner winch for the new Clipper footswitch I got from
 Injoy
 2. Winch doesn't work (strike 1), better go to Erie  have Reece look
 at it to make sure it was wired right (it was)...Besides, we can fly (what
 an excuse!)
 3. Plan on leaving at 6:30am, left almost an hour later (strike 2)
 4. Get to Reece  Mindy's, Reece applies power to winch in launch
 position, magic smoke starts escaping (never a good sign)
 5. Follow Reece to airport,  start setting up his winch
 6. Drive Mindy's van and mine down the far side of the runway, reeling
 out line...

 1. Sheldon: That should be enough
 2. Reece: Nawww...I want it all out
 3. Sheldon: It's pretty soft out here...That should be enough
 for us
 4. Reece: All of it, besides, it's drier up ahead
 5. Sheldon: OK...You da' boss
 7. Less than 10 seconds later...Reece has Mindy's van stuck...Damn!
 (strike 3)
 8. Reece, gets out, checks  decides I should give him a little nudge
 to get him going
 9. BIG mistake! Now my van is stuck as well...Damn, damn, damn! (strike
 4...NOTE: we should have known by this time...(sigh)...)
 10. Airport manager lives on-field...Uhhh Mark, We've got BOTH vans
 stuck, can you pull us out with your 4wd? Sure no problem  don' t go down
 there again, it's too soft (Like we don't know this now???)
 11. Mark pulls both vans out of the muck,  we finish setting the winch.
 At this point it would be prudent to mention that we are now positioned 
 appx
 where Sheldon had said earlier that's should be enough (as noted above)
 12. A bit of confusion setting up the retriever...A phone call solves
 that puzzle
 13. Wind is blowing about 10-13, with gusts upwards of 17. We launch...A
 short but adequate flight, add a couple of click of down to keep the speed
 upwind, with a landing that is not too bad, although somewhat distant. Put
 in several short flights with the Soprano, a couple of pop-offs included,
 something is still not right with the retriever.
 14. Damn, that last landing I slowed it down too much, hooked the wing
 tip landing it! (strike 5)
 15. OK, we think we have the retriever problem resolved, lets launch
 again
 16. Launch again...Pop-off...A LOT lower than before, and Reece says
 just fly straight-out
 17. I think he means fly straight-out until I get some speed up (he
 actually meant land it straight-out)
 18. I've got airspeed, so I swing downwind, intending to just make an
 approach  land, start to make my upwind turn for final...No rudder!
 19. Then all of a sudden I have rudder, but it's too late...By about 10
 feet, and the Soprano is in a tree...Damn, damn, damn! (strike 6)
 20. We make the hike across the field  look up...WOW! It's REALLY in
 there good...flew right into the crotch of a limb that extends 
 straight-out
 into the flight path, with branches capturing it top, bottom, etc. Then we
 look down, the trees are in the middle of a bog, nasty! Now there's dry
 land on either side of the trees, but the tree itself is in the middle of
 the bog! (strike 7)
 21. Weight a line, trying to get it over the fuselage (maybe we can
 pull it backwards to free it???). After MANY attempts, we do get a line
 over it, but no dice, this is not going well. This is not happening!
 22. Reece calls his buddy Jay (who lives on-site) and says Hey! Get you
 ass out of bed  come help us get an airplane out of a tree at the east 
 end
 of the runway!)
 23. Jay shows up about 20 minutes later, looks,  says no problem, 
 proceeds to walk a fallen tree to the other dry side.
 24. Reece spies a deer stand  against a tree about 50' away...Hey Jay,
 wait a minute...We got a deer stand ladder down there! So we go retrieve 
 it
 and get it across to Jay. Reece says go get your radio, Jay says if he 
 gets
 to it he'll just toss it and we can fly it down... get me a bottle of 
 water
 out of the van too.
 25. Go to the van  by the time I get back, Jay is already up in the
 tree  almost to the plane (How the hell did he do that???)
 26. Jay is at the plane, gets it loose,  

Re: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

2006-04-16 Thread Michael Neverdosky
Here it is a little different.

If I choose I can bag the moose right on the driveway or next to the cabin.
I can easily get someone else to do the butchering for a share of the
meat if I want to be lazy.

I don't see moose every day but it is rare to go more than three or
four days without seeing a moose.

Of course it is a long drive to go to a flying field around here.  :)

michael N6CHV AMA 77292 (in south central Alaska)

On 4/16/06, inventorforhire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's like getting up at 4 am driving 2 hours and then trudging 5 miles into
 the woods in 20 degree temperatures and sitting still for 8 or more hours
 waiting for a deer or turkey.  You manage to see one or two, but never
 within range.  Then trudging out and driving back home for a good 16 hour
 day.  You know that home is the best thing ever and this makes you really
 appreciate it.  You of course have to tell the wife you had a great
 time...

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[RCSE] Re: Graupner winch sad story/reaction

2006-04-16 Thread MSu1049321
When you have a day like that, it's a sure sign to stop at the gas station and buy a lotto ticket on the way home...


RE: [RCSE] Re: Graupner winch sad story/reaction

2006-04-16 Thread Sheldon-YNT uDesign



Strike # whatever...NYS Mega Millions was wy up there 
and I didn't buy the ticket yesterday...(Sigh)


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:29 
PMTo: Soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] Re: Graupner winch 
sad story/reaction
When you have a day like that, it's a sure sign to stop at 
the gas station and buy a lotto ticket on the way home... 


Re: FW: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

2006-04-16 Thread James V. Bacus

Now I know Sheldon has really been out soaring...  ;-)

The low altitude downwind turn with a large RES ship was a bad decision, 
should have just dumped those huge spoilers as it was flying away from you 
into the wind.


The long walk of shame is better than a tree climb and/or breakage.

Sounds like Reece had a pretty good day.  8-)




At 10:23 AM 4/16/2006, Sheldon-YNT uDesign wrote:

OK, since the original This sounds interesting popped-up on RCSE, I
thought I'd share my first Huh...Where'd that tree come from experience
with everyone. I'm sure parts of it will give somebody a chuckle...

~Sheldon-YNT~

PS: Sailplanes can be so cruel sometimes...G




Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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[RCSE] Airtronics Sapphire Kit

2006-04-16 Thread A. B. Lyles



Was this kit produced by White Wings for 
Airtronics? I always thought it was, but I may be 
incorrect. These are some of the last kits put out by 
Airtronics.

A.B.


[RCSE] Fw: Airtronics Sapphire Kit

2006-04-16 Thread A. B. Lyles



That would be Whyte Wings.
A.B.
- Original Message - 
From: A. B. Lyles 
To: Soaring@airage.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: Airtronics Sapphire Kit

Was this kit produced by White Wings for 
Airtronics? I always thought it was, but I may be 
incorrect. These are some of the last kits put out by 
Airtronics.

A.B.


RE: FW: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

2006-04-16 Thread Sheldon-YNT uDesign
Actually...No...He didn't even get to fly...Except skydivers that is! G

It's all living and learning...Hopefully, I won't need a repeat episode to
reinforce the lesson. But, ya' gotta fly 'em to learn, so I'll keep flying,
and hopefully my learning won't be too painful or costly. G 

-Original Message-
From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:55 PM
To: RCSE
Subject: Re: FW: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2 - The rest of the story

Now I know Sheldon has really been out soaring...  ;-)

The low altitude downwind turn with a large RES ship was a bad decision,
should have just dumped those huge spoilers as it was flying away from you
into the wind.

The long walk of shame is better than a tree climb and/or breakage.

Sounds like Reece had a pretty good day.  8-)




At 10:23 AM 4/16/2006, Sheldon-YNT uDesign wrote:
OK, since the original This sounds interesting popped-up on RCSE, I 
thought I'd share my first Huh...Where'd that tree come from 
experience with everyone. I'm sure parts of it will give somebody a
chuckle...

~Sheldon-YNT~

PS: Sailplanes can be so cruel sometimes...G



Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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Re: [RCSE] Graupner Winch #2

2006-04-16 Thread S Meyer


Sheldon, please do. :-)

At 08:25 PM 4/15/2006, James V. Bacus wrote:
This sounds
interesting...

At 07:54 PM 4/15/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oh
Sheldon ,tell them the whole tale.Let them know how it went from bad to
worse .Don't forget about the 4 wheel drive part
lol..Reece



RE: [RCSE] Push rods

2006-04-16 Thread John Ensoll
Gidday all,
What you are trying to solder is most likely stainless steel and the only
flux worth its salt is phosphoric acid.   You will be amazed how well it
works on stainless or any other material for that matter.
A smidgeon on the end of a balsa stick is all that is needed and resin cored
solder is OK followed by a damp cloth cleanup.
Regards,
John Ensoll

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From: Shape [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: [RCSE] Push rods

I'm working on a new plane that has .080 steel push rods. I have sanded and
fluxed them and all the solder does is bead up. Can someone tell me what I
am doing wrong?
Jerry

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[RCSE] re: soldering

2006-04-16 Thread Lincoln Ross
Either the rods are stainless and you have to really beat on them, or 
you're not using enough heat. (Well, ok, not beat on them, but use 
different flux or something. I have bad luck soldering to stainless, but 
no less a source than Mark Drela tells me it can be done. Kind of 
reminds me of the people who can bend balsa on 1/2 radius for EZB 
wingtips. I'm not one of them. Another thought that occurs to me is that 
if your marmalade also tasted funny you might want to check for an 
accidental swap.) What kind of super duper flux were all you guys 
talking about? I suppose I could just get that Sta Brite stuff...



On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Shape wrote:

 


I'm working on a new plane that has.080 steel push rods and they don't seem
to solder well. I have sanded them, fluxed them and all the solder does is
bead up. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong.
Jerry



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