[RCSE] In the Year 2020

2008-03-05 Thread Craig Allen
  In the Year 2020……..
 
A young man in our club is tired of having to wait his turn for his old 2.4 
system to lock on…. He mentions a new product, the latest best thing!  


72mh with individual channels..


 Just imagine he says, I can fly anytime I want on my own frequency… 


 I just smile….


 I ask him what will he do if someone else has the same frequency… He 
thinks for a minute and says…. Well I’ll just have to share with him, but I can 
still fly half the day compared to the 30 min to an hour I get to fly now on 
2.4… And with having to share my frequency with others maybe I’ll meet a new 
friend :-)
 
 He has one last question… What's this long piece of wire for, were are the 
satellite receivers and data logger :-


   Craig
   
  

  

[RCSE] SVSS Season Opener

2008-03-05 Thread Dudley Dufort
This Saturday, March 8th, the Sacramento Valley Soaring Society launches 
the 2008 contest season.  Northern California pilots, and you bandits 
out of Nevada, are all invited to attend this season opener.  It's also 
rumored to be Jim Thomas' birthday.


Nickels and Dimes is the format.  Two five and two ten-minute rounds 
with sizable overtime penalties.  Landings will be scored on a 100-point 
tape.  Our very own Road Kill Krew will be serving all-you-can-eat 
barbecued hot dogs for a mere pittance.  The pilots meeting is at 9:45 
AM.  Flying starts at 10.


Following the contest, the field opens to fun flying, training seminars 
for new pilots and introductory flights for the general public.  It's a 
whole day of fun.  You're invited to join us.


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Re: [RCSE] Speaking of Fuutaba...

2008-03-05 Thread david . jensen
Proof once again  You get what you pay for


 -- Original message --
From: TDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 One of the many really kool feature of the Futaba radio I am using is that I
 can take an actual photo of my plane and load it into the Futaba's TX's
 screen to give me a visual of the actual model. To date I havent tried to
 fly a Pike Perfect with the Pike Superior settings. Helps a lot too when you
 have a few of the same birds so you don't have to remember Pike Perfect 1,
 Pike Perfect 2 etc... just glance at the Futaba screen and you will know
 which model is loaded. 
  
 Now if only Futaba can make fast enough the 2.4g retrofit for the standard
 MZ's it would be great. Did I mention I love the Futaba 14MZ? 
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
 From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:44 PM
 To: Albert E. Wedworth; soaring@airage.com
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
 
 
 
 Al,
 
 You had me right up tell you said Stylus I thought your parents raised you
 better Al  :-) 
 
 Now if you had said Futaba 9C... One. I would of made $1 and two, you
 would of shown how smart you are :-  A Stylus up against a Futaba is
 kind of like Dos up against Mac  Very Ugly :- 
 
 
 
 Craig. Long Live 72 :-) 42 years of using it and no problems yet
 
 The financial crisis is kind of like people swimming nude in the ocean...
 You don't know how ugly it is tell the tides gone out... And then its very
 very ugly... Warren Buffet
 
 
 
 Albert E. Wedworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Hi guys 
 I find it kinda silly that all of you converts using 2.4 need instructions
 to install a receiver in a plane Can't have Carbon/Kevlar in your fuse,
 drilling holes in a fuse so the silly little antennas wiskers stick out just
 to find it didn't work, data loggers. ( just pure silliness )
  
 Also while all of you folks are wasting you cash on some radio that doesn't
 compare to the Stylus in any way shape or form or can't do the things that
 sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes and flying!  Not wondering where to
 put the silly little whisker antennas or if the install gona work in my TOY
 sailplane.
  
 The Best part is I won't have to worry about all you guys on my channel (; =
 !
 I fly on 72 meg's and I don't need instructions. Also I WON'T be using 2.4
 in the future either!  I like my Airtronics Stylus radio and see no need to
 change EVER!
  
 Loving 72 meg on ch 51
 Al
  
 In a time of deceit 
 telling the truth is a 
 revolutionary act.
 -George Orwell-
 
 
 
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One of the many 
really kool feature of the Futaba radio I am using is that I can take an actual 
photo of my plane and load it into the Futaba's TX's screento give 
mea visual of the actual model. To date I havent tried to fly a Pike 
Perfect with the Pike Superior settings. Helps a lot toowhen you have a 
few of the same birds so you don't have to remember Pike Perfect 1, Pike Perfect 
2 etc... just glance at the Futaba screen and you will know which model is 
loaded. 

Now if only Futaba 
can make fast enoughthe 2.4g retrofitfor the standard MZ's it would 
be great. Did I mention I love the Futaba 14MZ? 



-Original Message-From: 
Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 
04, 2008 7:44 PMTo: Albert E. Wedworth; 
soaring@airage.comSubject: Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how 
to?
Al,You had me right up 
  tell you said "Stylus" I thought your parents raised you better Al  :-) 
  Now if you had said Futaba 9C... One. I would of made $1 and two, 
  you would of shown how smart you are :- A Stylus up against a Futaba 
  is kind of like Dos up against Mac Very Ugly :- 
  "Craig. Long Live 72 :-) 42 years of using it and no 
  problems yetThe financial crisis is kind of like people swimming 
  nude in the ocean... You don't know how ugly it is tell the tides gone out... 
  And then its very very ugly..." Warren Buffet"Albert E. 
  Wedworth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



Hi guys 
I find it kinda silly that all of you converts 
using 2.4 need instructions to install a receiver in a plane Can't have 
Carbon/Kevlar inyour fuse, drilling holes in a fuse so the silly 
little antennas wiskers stick out just to find it didn't work, data 
loggers. ( just pure silliness )

Also while all of you folks are wasting you 
cash on some radio that doesn't compare to the Stylus in any way shape or 
form or can't do the things that sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes 
and flying! Not wondering where to put the 

[RCSE] Ira is the Quacker, Quacker is the Ira, Who Was to Know? :-)

2008-03-05 Thread GordySoar
After sifting thru all the experiments of fellow modelers 
 (on the place where nobody signs their names)   guys who unlike me 
actually have some ingenuity, I finally got to the  simple, safe solutions to 
adapting a JR/Spectrum 2.4   system in soon to be extinct Carbon Fuse 
sailplanes.
 
First it turned out there were two install solutions needed.  Nose  cone and 
canopy.
 
Canopy turned out the easiest...the need for only the smallest amount of  
shrink-tubed on extension wire to insure the 31mm rule would be observed.
 
Nose cone was the bigger and most daunting of challenges, Quacker's  solution 
ended up at one end of the fix system and Don Barker at the  other.
 
Both worked...and thanks to both for going after the solution and  publishing 
them.
 
Quacker's involved lengthening aux wires for the remotes out in the wing  
tips and minor surgery to the tail to hide a remote there.

Don boldly used on-hand servo wire to run shrink wrapped whisker wires  from 
both RX's nestled in plain site and access thru the firewall along the  
ballast tube, then the sacred 31mm out four holes space around the  
circumference of 
the pod.  Don used the Flight Log to verify the install  and ended up with 
numbers on average well below the mythical worry mark of  400's...with no holds 
after an awful lot of flying his Supra on his own back  yard flying site.
 
I want to apologize to Quacker and his alter ego Ira who felt that winning  
the title of Goofiest solution was harsh, rude, mean, and dis-respectful...even 
 though he played the most important part of the solution.

I figured I better recognize his part in all of this and let him know  that 
we all, (yep me too) appreciate his contribution and that no disrespect was  
meant in all fun of the hunt.
 
I'm trying like heck to make it to F3J in the Rockies in a few months,  
partly in order to give him and opportunity to crush my scores, and for him to  
have a proper opportunity to sayIN YOUR FACE!!!

For the record Quacker was cool with the whole tongue and cheek deal  but Ira 
was pissed !  So I'm looking forward to flying with one of em for  sure :).

Good Job both of you!
Gordy



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RE: [RCSE] Ira is the Quacker, Quacker is the Ira, Who Was to Know? :-)

2008-03-05 Thread Jim Monaco
Ira is not really a contest kind of guy, but we would love it if you could
coax or goad him into coming out to play at F3J in the Rockies. :-)

Jim

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:15 PM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Ira is the Quacker, Quacker is the Ira, Who Was to Know?
:-)

 

[Jim Monaco] snipped

I'm trying like heck to make it to F3J in the Rockies in a few months,
partly in order to give him and opportunity to crush my scores, and for him
to have a proper opportunity to sayIN YOUR FACE!!!


For the record Quacker was cool with the whole tongue and cheek deal but Ira
was pissed !  So I'm looking forward to flying with one of em for sure :).


Good Job both of you!

Gordy





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[RCSE] More Data Logger Results with a Carbon Pike Perfect

2008-03-05 Thread bgtwining

Last week I provided some results from my install of a Spektrum 9 Ch
receiver in a carbon Pike Perfect. It was not what I had hoped for. 

Today I tested a modified set-up with one of the main receiver antenna's
going out the bottom of the Pike fuselage and the other sticking vertically
through the canopy. The remote receivers were still sticking horizontally
through the canopy as shown in the pictures in the following RCGroups
thread.

 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=825409

Flight #1 9.5 minutes 80 frame losses, no holds
Flight #2 10 minutes 40 frame losses, no holds
Flight # 3 12 minutes 21 frame losses, no holds

The interesting thing is that on the last flight I bent the remote antennas
in a slow arc, one forward and one aft. The fades on the remote went from
455 and 295 on the first 2 flights to 48 on the third.

I also made one flight with my 2.4 friendly Supra. The data for that flight
was as follows.

8 minute flight time - 57 fades, 0 holds.

It looks to me like the all carbon Perfect is performing just as well as the
2.4 friendly Supra, especially when you normalize for flight time.

Bruce T.

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[RCSE] Global Hobby/Airtronics Supports the US F3J Team

2008-03-05 Thread Jim Monaco
I am pleased to announce that Global Hobby, the distributor for Airtronics,
has graciously donated $1000 plus several servos to the US F3J Team.  We are
very grateful for this valuable donation and proud to have had recurring
Airtronics support for the team through several cycles.

It is great to see Global Hobby continuing their support of soaring as
Airtronics had previously!  Their support of soaring pilots such as Skip and
Daryl and Cody show they are indeed serious about our sport and I'm sure
they will continue to provide us the quality products that we need and
enjoy!

Many thanks to Daryl and Mike GreenShields for making this happen and
joining the ranks of our generous sponsors.

And YOU TOO can support our team through purchases of merchandise and raffle
tickets and even cash donations at our website http://www.usf3jteam.com

Thanks for everyone's support

Jim Monaco
2008 US F3J Team Manager


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[RCSE] WANTED: Gently/moderately used DHLG

2008-03-05 Thread Glaab, Louis J. (LARC-D205)
Good afternoon,
 
Both of my sons are interested in DHLG.  Josh Jr (9) is able to throw
his DHLG and fly around.  Luke (7) is closing-in on soloing.  Both boys
fly in a vigorous sort of way.  What I think I need is a gently-used
(or even abused) DHLG that has some life left in it that they can fly
and perhaps fly at the NATS this summer.  Anyone have a dinged DHLG at a
dinged DHLG price??  Neither boy is quite ready for a new DHLG, but
they will be soon.  

Thanks, Josh.
 
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Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?

2008-03-05 Thread clarence

For what it is worth,

In the latest Model Airplane News (May), page84, the President of Sanwa
states Stylus users will be rewarded for their loyalty with a 2.4GHz
module receiver option

Clarence

Albert E. Wedworth wrote:

Hi guys
I find it kinda silly that all of you converts using 2.4 need 
instructions to install a receiver in a plane Can't have 
Carbon/Kevlar in your fuse, drilling holes in a fuse so the silly 
little antennas wiskers stick out just to find it didn't work, data 
loggers. ( just pure silliness )
 
Also while all of you folks are wasting you cash on some radio that 
doesn't compare to the Stylus in any way shape or form or can't do the 
things that sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes and flying!  Not 
wondering where to put the silly little whisker antennas or if 
the install gona work in my TOY sailplane.
 
The Best part is I won't have to worry about all you guys on my 
channel (; = !
I fly on 72 meg's and I don't need instructions. Also I WON'T be using 
2.4 in the future either!  I like my Airtronics Stylus radio and see 
no need to change EVER!
 
Loving 72 meg on ch 51

Al
 
In a time of deceit

telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.
-George Orwell-


[RCSE] If its Saturday and Sunday I must be in Orlando!!!

2008-03-05 Thread GordySoar
Eat your hearts out guys or get in your wheels for a two day fun in the MOM  
sun, Buzzard style!
 
Im heading down on Fridayarmed and dangerous, smiling ear  to ear  to 
the point my gigglehurtz.
 
See you there!
Gordy



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[RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4?

2008-03-05 Thread Joe Parsons
I've been using my trusty Stylus with Glider Card for almost as long as I've
been serious about the sport. It has been essentially trouble free, has no
problems with installation and has far more functionality than I could ever
dream of using.

 

So I read here about all the challenges involved with 2.4. I can understand
relishing technical challenges-but what is the attraction of this apparently
finicky and expensive technology?

 

I just don't get it. Could someone 'splain to me what the big deal is?

 

Joe Parsons