Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

[Anker Berg-Sonne]

Uncluded is a new word for me. I hope it isn't the opposite of included. :-)

Anker

David Webb wrote:
If you subscribe to the airtronics forum they will tell you that a 10 
channel 2.4 radio with a lot of bells and whistles is due out FEb 2009 
but this is not a replacement for the Stylus either. This 10 channel 
is supposed to have enough features for the masses, glider pilots 
uncluded. No one has definitively stated when the stylus will be 
replaced with a 2.4 model. 
 
Look ont he bright side. As more and more users switch to the JR, 
Futaba and maybe extreme 2.4Ghz solutions, 72 MHZ gets less populated 
and the potential for conflicts may be reduced :)
 
I am personally switching over next flying season myself. I would LOVE 
to stick with my stylus but my local flying flield is too close to 
another club so 2.4 is a must and soon.  
 
David Webb
 
  

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Jim Deck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


  I dropped by the Airtronics booth at Toledo hoping to find out
if the spread spectrum module for the Stylus would be available
for THIS flying season.  My questions were answered with "We're
not sure but have you looked at the new RD 8000?"  I was reminded
that Houdini claimed that the secret to his success as an
illusionist was distraction.
  Still patiently waiting for my Stylus SS module,
  Jim Deck
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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics

[Mike Fox]

Hi Guys,

From what I have heard from Airtronics also is, that the new 10 channel is 
being developed and hopefully out to the public in Feb. 09. Sanwa is using 
the same engineers that developed the Stylus. They also said there are plans 
to make a 2.4ghz module to fit the Stylus as it is still a good and popular 
radio. There is also talk about a higher end radio down the road, maybe 14 
channel, good for our large Scale ships.


I just got the Airtronics RDS8000 and flew it last weekend in a electric. 
Worked flawlessly!  The RDS8000 does not have sliders for soaring, but it 
was not really intended to be that kind of radio. I think it is a excellent 
middle of the line radio. It has alot of mixing availible. I will fly my 
electric planes, heli and will try some sailplanes to figure out the 2.4 
stuff.


I think there is some good stuff coming  :-)

Mike Fox 


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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

[David Webb]

Yes its one of those new technical terms like "ping"  "lag" and "whackadoo"
:) But the context was used inappropriately.

Seriously they way I type out a message and typically fail to hit spellcheck
I would be surprised if there are not more errors than this. This is also
slightly ironic because although Sanwa/ Airtronics has created arguably the
most amazing glider oriented product to date for a TX for the last several
years soaring specialists have been largely "uncluded" in any new
developments.

That being said the Stylus has stood the test of time in part due to its
feature rich offering that is only just now being matched by JR and Futaba.






On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Anker Berg-Sonne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Uncluded is a new word for me. I hope it isn't the opposite of included.
> :-)
>
> Anker
>
> David Webb wrote:
>
> > If you subscribe to the airtronics forum they will tell you that a 10
> > channel 2.4 radio with a lot of bells and whistles is due out FEb 2009 but
> > this is not a replacement for the Stylus either. This 10 channel is supposed
> > to have enough features for the masses, glider pilots uncluded. No one has
> > definitively stated when the stylus will be replaced with a 2.4 model.  Look
> > ont he bright side. As more and more users switch to the JR, Futaba and
> > maybe extreme 2.4Ghz solutions, 72 MHZ gets less populated and the potential
> > for conflicts may be reduced :)
> >  I am personally switching over next flying season myself. I would LOVE
> > to stick with my stylus but my local flying flield is too close to another
> > club so 2.4 is a must and soon.   David Webb
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Jim Deck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >  I dropped by the Airtronics booth at Toledo hoping to find out
> >if the spread spectrum module for the Stylus would be available
> >for THIS flying season.  My questions were answered with "We're
> >not sure but have you looked at the new RD 8000?"  I was reminded
> >that Houdini claimed that the secret to his success as an
> >illusionist was distraction.
> >  Still patiently waiting for my Stylus SS module,
> >  Jim Deck
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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

[LJolly]

 


Friends in Soaring,
 As you know I flew Airtronics systems for years and years. I  remember when 
I got my first Stylus in the early 90's, it was and  is, a classic Radio. 
However radio design did not stop in 1991. I  was involved in discussions for 
at 
least 3 new radio designs for Sanwa, that  were always canceled. It took 4 
years to get the 94761 Servo in to our  hands, this drove Ron nuts because he 
knew 
We all had JR servos in our  Gliders. I can remember many meetings with Sanwa 
Engineers where they  patiently listened to what We wanted, and nodded in 
agreement.  Then 6  months down the road, it was like We had never had the 
discussion. We were  crying for a new Glider Card, but it wasn't possible. Did 
you 
ever stop to  wonder Why there is not Stylus replacement from Sanwa? The truth 
is the Stylus  was designed here in America as a project for Airtronics. I 
think it was by  the same Team that did the software for the Vision. Sanwa has 
never  designed a radio with all the features of the Stylus. I am not saying 
they  can't do it, I'm just looking back at my experience with Sanwa, where  
they 
chose not to do it. If you guys are waiting for Sanwa to come up  with your 
Stylus replacement, you might get tired of waiting, I know I  did. I jumped to 
JR and have never been happier. They have a full line  of cutting edge Radio 
gear, Great Service, Incredible Support for  Soaring, and more important, 
People willing to listen to us. Team Red is  growing, while you are waiting, 
We'll 
be flying. 
Larry Jolly Air-Heli  JR Team









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[RCSE] Turnaround Trolls Needed

[Sheldon Smith]

Boys and Girls, it's time again to start rounding up volunteers to be
Turnaround Trolls at the 2008 Soaring Nationals. If you are attending the
Nats with your son(s)/daughter(s) and they would like to "volunteer" to be
one of the Turnaround Trolls, please make sure you get them registered as a
volunteer (links to the volunteer forms are on the LSF website) and let me
know as well please. You can contact me offline at: "nodlehs at rochester
dot rr dot com".

 

We need a minimum of 5 volunteers, and would like to have 10 if possible (2
to a cart). The kids will be shagging 'chutes back from the turnarounds,
using golf carts, over some pretty bumpy terrain. As long as the CD says
we're flying, the kids will be providing retrieval services for the
pilots.rain, shine, hot, or cold, they do it. We've never had an issue in
the past, and the Trolls have never been the "hold-up" for not getting a
flight launched. Needless to say, safety is paramount, and I don't tolerate
much "goofing-off" or any practices that I or the other officials deem as
"unsafe". I talk with the Trolls up-front, they understand the
responsibility and importance, and what I expect of them, and so far, we've
never had a Troll that didn't want to volunteer again (maybe they're too
scared of me to quit? ). The kids have been great to work with, I've
always had a good hard-working crew, and they have always received a
"well-done" from all of the pilots for their efforts, which they really
appreciate hearing.

 

-Sheldon-

2008 Soaring Nationals

Head Turnaround Troll

[RCSE] Fred Sheplavy

[Jochen Luetke]

Hey Fed, can you ping me, I have some good news
   
  JL

Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, Can't wait forever

[Joe Rodriguez]

I too had a RD8000 the 72mhz version I'm guessing the 2.4 version has the same 
software.

And I agree with Mike it is a great radio for electrics and 2 to 4 channel 
sailplanes and handlaunch the 
RD8000 is light but has a inexpensive look to it, the RD8000 seems geared to 
power and heli's.

RD8000 is lacking for F3X needs Like sliders, flight modes, 6 servo control, 3 
position switches to name a few.

I now have ONE radio that fly's all my toys and that's the way it should be.

joe
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Fox 
  To: Soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics


  Hi Guys,

  From what I have heard from Airtronics also is, that the new 10 channel is 
  being developed and hopefully out to the public in Feb. 09. Sanwa is using 
  the same engineers that developed the Stylus. They also said there are plans 
  to make a 2.4ghz module to fit the Stylus as it is still a good and popular 
  radio. There is also talk about a higher end radio down the road, maybe 14 
  channel, good for our large Scale ships.

  I just got the Airtronics RDS8000 and flew it last weekend in a electric. 
  Worked flawlessly!  The RDS8000 does not have sliders for soaring, but it 
  was not really intended to be that kind of radio. I think it is a excellent 
  middle of the line radio. It has alot of mixing availible. I will fly my 
  electric planes, heli and will try some sailplanes to figure out the 2.4 
  stuff.

  I think there is some good stuff coming  :-)

  Mike Fox 

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[RCSE] Apologies to the Airtrix guys.

[LJolly]

Apologies to the Airtrix guys. Guys, I totally forgot the Infinity 1000,  
Sanwa's 10 channel sophisticated radio. This Radio had lots of programming  
power, it was just a little convoluted to get from here to there.
By the way after my last post Jimbo called and offered me $60.00  for  my 
9303. When I said WHAT!!!
He told me that I couldn't expect to get top dollar for an out dated  
System!! He told me that since I am flying the 12X I no longer need the 9303.  
OK, I 
guess I deserve it !! LJ



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[RCSE] Fazer,Frazer, and Victor Xtail Carbon For sale.

[LJolly]

I need to make some Room for Airplanes that are just sitting:
 I have a DTube Fazer  Ben Clerx Scheme Green over Red  NIB   
$1000.00
 I have a Dtube Extreme Ben Clerx Scheme Green over Red  NIB
$1000.00
 I have an All Carbon Victor Xtail NIB  Red and Yellow  Stripes over Black 
$1200.00  
 Super Star DTube  Red over Black 3421 on Elevator and Flap 368's  Ailerons  
$1350.00 with Servos $1000.00 without  
Starlight 3000  Xtail   Green over  Red  94761's  throughout  
$950.00
Starlight 3000  VTail  Green over  Red   NIB  
   $900.00
Eraser Extreme  Well used by Casey Adamcyzk at the  Worlds  141's  fuse 368 
in the wing  $650.00
 
I may have access to more Victors and Erasers please contact me if you are  
looking for one. Larry  
  



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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, Can't wait forever

[Mark Howard]

Joe,

I have both versions and can address some of these issues:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Joe Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I too had a RD8000 the 72mhz version I'm guessing the 2.4 version has the
> same software.

Yes it is exactly the same - except of course the "fail safe" and
modulation settings. I have a few models on the 72mhz version, and
just went thru the menus one at a time copying all the settings to the
new radio. Seems to work with just a few minor trim changes.

> And I agree with Mike it is a great radio for electrics and 2 to 4 channel
> sailplanes and handlaunch the
> RD8000 is light but has a inexpensive look to it, the RD8000 seems geared to
> power and heli's.
> RD8000 is lacking for F3X needs Like sliders, flight modes, 6 servo control,
> 3 position switches to name a few.>

True it is geared that way - however the RD8000 will address up to 8
channels. The most sophisticated setup is for my Kangke Monocoupe
towplane. It works elevator, rudder, throttle, 2 independent aileron
servos, 2 independent flap servos and the tow release. This setup also
handles reflex and landing flaps ON THE 3-POSITION SWITCH.
I will be experimenting with electric / full-house setups. The biggest
issue I see for F3X stuff is lack of camber control (no slider). I
really wish it had a rotary knob for heli pitch control too.

>
> I now have ONE radio that fly's all my toys and that's the way it should be.
>
> joe


Yes - I agree and the RD8000 has room for only 10 models. I'm eagerly
anticipating the Stylus 2.4 module release!
I have a lot of brand loyalty so I'm really pleased that Airtronics
has a 2.4 system that I can use for my power planes and helis. I live
pretty close to a club field so 2.4 is a godsend. Now I can fly in the
openspace next to my house like I did before the field was built. I've
lost several planes at that field on 72mhz - to undetermined
interference which has claimed many planes there. Hopefully the 2.4
radios will eliminate that problem.

Mark
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RE: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, Can't wait forever

[Jim Monaco]

So Dude - are you back in Colorado?  This sounds a lot like your place
in Golden and not in Hawaii... :)

If so - welcome back (and we have a contest this weekend... ) 
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Mark Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:51 PM
To: Joe Rodriguez
Cc: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, Can't wait forever

Joe,

I have both versions and can address some of these issues:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Joe Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I too had a RD8000 the 72mhz version I'm guessing the 2.4 version has the
> same software.

Yes it is exactly the same - except of course the "fail safe" and
modulation settings. I have a few models on the 72mhz version, and
just went thru the menus one at a time copying all the settings to the
new radio. Seems to work with just a few minor trim changes.

> And I agree with Mike it is a great radio for electrics and 2 to 4 channel
> sailplanes and handlaunch the
> RD8000 is light but has a inexpensive look to it, the RD8000 seems geared
to
> power and heli's.
> RD8000 is lacking for F3X needs Like sliders, flight modes, 6 servo
control,
> 3 position switches to name a few.>

True it is geared that way - however the RD8000 will address up to 8
channels. The most sophisticated setup is for my Kangke Monocoupe
towplane. It works elevator, rudder, throttle, 2 independent aileron
servos, 2 independent flap servos and the tow release. This setup also
handles reflex and landing flaps ON THE 3-POSITION SWITCH.
I will be experimenting with electric / full-house setups. The biggest
issue I see for F3X stuff is lack of camber control (no slider). I
really wish it had a rotary knob for heli pitch control too.

>
> I now have ONE radio that fly's all my toys and that's the way it should
be.
>
> joe


Yes - I agree and the RD8000 has room for only 10 models. I'm eagerly
anticipating the Stylus 2.4 module release!
I have a lot of brand loyalty so I'm really pleased that Airtronics
has a 2.4 system that I can use for my power planes and helis. I live
pretty close to a club field so 2.4 is a godsend. Now I can fly in the
openspace next to my house like I did before the field was built. I've
lost several planes at that field on 72mhz - to undetermined
interference which has claimed many planes there. Hopefully the 2.4
radios will eliminate that problem.

Mark
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[RCSE] Joe's real reason for moving to New Zeland

[Steve Schneider]

http://www.asylum.com/2008/04/18/the-worlds-sexiest-weather-girls-vote-for-your-favorite/?icid=100214839x1201109792x1200045342

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Re: [RCSE] Joe's real reason for moving to New Zeland

[Craig Allen]

Steve Steve Steve 

Look here..Much better :-)  http://www.weatherangels.co.nz/

Check out the Photos and the Videos The closeups of their.Hmmm... U 
know.Too Too  Much :-)))

Hm... I wonder if NZ Girls like old Ford Falcon Convertibles ;-) Ha Ha Ha

Craig

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