Re: [RCSE] Re: Way to go Johnny :-)
Way to go Johnny! Cheers! Charlie (Astro Hog) Miller Colorado - Original Message - From: Craig Allen To: Dennis Hoyle ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Way to go Johnny :-) Way to Go Johnny Couldn't happen to a better person :-) Dennis Hoyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got a call from Harry and Johnny Berlin successfully completed his 8 hour Level V task today along the lake Michigan shoreline with perfect sloap conditions and has now completed all level V requirements. 8 hrs, 1 minute, 20 seconds. Harry De Boer and Ted Grossner witnessed the flight. Congratulations Johnny! Dennis Hoyle WMSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Espada!
A bit about my Espada. Lenny Keer put this model together. It has Airtronic's 761's in the wing. JR servo's in the fuse. Can't read the servo number, but they are the typical JR's everyone uses. Yellow top, Blue bottom. Control surfaces are blue on the top. Bottom of right wing has a yellow wing tip. This is a sharp glider, I have decided to go with the Perfect for competition. So the Espada is out of the mix. I will be attending F3J In the Rockies, I can deliver it there.. What can I do to get you into this glider today. Hahahahaha! $1900 Or make an offer, I may budge a little. ;) Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] Espada!
I have a new,(perhaps30 flights) Espada RL for sale. Less reciever. $1900 US Dollars! Cheers Charlie
Re: [RCSE] I pity the idiot who waits another day to buy his new Euro Moldie!'
Well, to the pilots who are actually buying a new euro glider in the future.. Don't take the idiot comment to seriously.. Sometimes Gordy doesn't choose his words appropriately.. Cheers Charlie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: [RCSE] I pity the idiot who waits another day to buy his new Euro Moldie!' Hi guys, I was just chatting life the universe and everything with Barry Kennedyand the topic came to the cost of sailplanes (to him) obviously based on the opposite directions of the Euro to Dollar. The Dollar is down a little more today again... I talk to guys all over my travels who say they will be buying a new ship in the near future...but in the near future, the prices have to go up. The sailplane's our suppliers have purchased and paid for last month is pricey...but the ones they will replace with today are going to cost them more USA cash...and cost YOU more for waiting a month...or a week. Barry has the latest version of the Supra in stock today, new aileron construction, new horn construction, lighter and stiffer and 2.4 friendly...for the same $1,400 that they have been at ...but he ordered them with full wing wiring harnesses (usually another $40, almost whether you make it or buy it pre-made) at no extra charge. That's got to change if it's going to be worth him and our other brand sailplane suppliers bothering to put up with our frequently asked questions and whining about dents and flaws..and questions about 'are we there yet daddy?to make it worth the repeated trips to the airport and the friendly customs agents...paper work, loading and unloading vans, stacking, inventoryingweb site maint, etc. Wait and Wailit could cost you cash. Sumth'n to think about ;-). Gordy -- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.
[RCSE] Talk about low passes!
I agree Buzz! I flew thermals 90% of the time. And you really don't see the speed. But when I did fly by a ridge at 120 knots, or more. Well, It's just one of them feelings that stays with you for LIFE! GityUp Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4?
The big deal for me? Because of the huge surge to go with 2.4. There is a lot of discontent towards the old 72 MHz. And pilots are selling off the 72 stuff everywhere... I am enjoying the low! Low! Prices on Stylus radio's and radio accessories! I think it's all good! It's a win, win situation. As we speak, the number of frequencies we have to control is decreasing! I may go with 2.4 in my gliders. Since I do fly at large contests, the frequency security makes sense. But locally I fly at well controlled sites. And besides, I know who is on my channel around here. We are a tight group, and not that many pilots. I do look at it on the practical side as well.. I have about 20 aircraft that are loaded, and ready to fly.. I thought about how much it would cost to change out all the receivers.. I just laughed! I think I will be ok with 72 MHz for awhile. ') Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] SWC
I want to thank CASL for putting on a good show again! I know you guys were short handed, and thought you handled that very well.. No winch problems... Great attitudes.. Always a great contest to attend.. I keep my fingers crossed that this contest will go on for many years to come. Always a pleasure to run into friends, sit down to some good BBQ, and catch up on what happening.. Thanks Chico! Great job! Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] Winch/Sharon
Greetings Do we really have to winch with full pedal all the way up the line? Remember, the more line we take in, the less altitude we can get. If the flight window starts after we get off the line, I don't see a reason to rush the launch. I see many pilots tap the glider up the line, then build tension near the top for a great zoom. This would be appropriate when there is a launch wind.. Down wind? This is full pedal time! I don't think there can be enough tension to break the line... My winch doesn't seem to have a problem with line breaks. Even with a full pedal launch.. I attribute this to the drum diameter.. It has more torque, less speed. With lots of speed, a winch will bog down. We loose tension when this happens. I prefer high torque. I think contest directors should consider this. It would eliminate many of the line breaks... And you still will get a great launch. I agree that we can't blame winches for not handling the larger gliders.. We need to manage the glider better up the line.. If we want to have new standards for winches, that would be ok. I think the smaller diameter drum would be the cheapest way to cure the line break problem... I will be at the SWC in Feb. Remember last year?? Line break city??? Perhaps we all can make a good effort to manage our tension? I will be flying my Sharon. I will have two with me. I will sell one of them after the contest. Hope you all have a Merry Christmas. Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] High End!
I thought the High End looked pretty good.. But since it's an F3J glider, I didn't expect the fuse to look like anything but thin. The thing to appreciate is the wing. That's the tool, that is what we are flying, and it's the part that changes the most. Look at a full scale glider.. The fuse really hasn't changed much. But the wings have gone through some big changes over the years. As it did with model glider's. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Some pilots really don't care what they look like, as long it does the job. And wins contests. For some pilots, it's all about looks! It's the same with the flying characteristic's. Some gliders are exciting to fly, Some are boring. Like the Pike Perfect. It's like an old Emerald in it's prime.. It really does the job. But isn't very exciting to fly. When I fly for fun, I want more excitement. More lively performance. But in competition, I use what will work in the conditions I am faced with. I have a couple of Sharon's, A Pike Perfect, and a Espada RL! I think I am covered! Now if our daily temperatures would get above 40, and some of this snow would go away, I could actually fly!!! I hate winter! Merry Christmas! Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] Test?
It works Charles.
[RCSE] Re: Barry Kennedy and Kennedy Composites
Barry is a GOOD guy, just not perfect. Charlie :p -- CHARLIE BRITT 7 construction, pilot-multieng -seaplane, lifetime modler LSF level 4 CHARLIE BRITT 7's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=11862 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=357106 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Barry Kennedy and Kennedy Composites
Michael Lachowski Wrote: I guess Barry is filling in for Sal these days. That is a low blow. Charlie -- CHARLIE BRITT 7 construction, pilot-multieng -seaplane, lifetime modler LSF level 4 CHARLIE BRITT 7's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=11862 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=357106 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Nose Weight?
Absolutely! I wouldn't be so concerned with how much weight you have to put in the glider. Balance it and fly it! My Emerald was 68 oz.. It had plenty of nose weight. I do suggest the built up rudder. That's the only mod I had. I also used volz servo's. I believe they are some of the lightest servo's there are. It all add's up! Just a note! On my full scale ASW20, the glider weight was just under 600 LB's .. It needed a minimum of about 150 LB's in the nose to fly!! (pilot) Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Tow Plane?
Greetings! We use the Kangke Monocoupe ARF! Powered by the Moki 2.10 . But the biggest glider we can tow is the 6.5 Nimbus..About 20LB's. And you have to be fairly smooth. Anything 4.5 meter and smaller, The Monocoupe works very good.. And looks good as well! A 30 LB Ventus? How cool! looks like your going to need a serious Gas powered tow. We have been towing a few day's a week.. All I can say is it's a ton of fun. I had two half hour flights yesterday with my 3.1 meter duo discus... As far as large tow planes, My favorite is the Wilga! Unfortunately they are very pricey! Good luck and happy soaring!! Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Thanks CASL !
Greetings! Just started settling in here and thinking of the great weekend at the SWC. I want to thank the CASL members for all their hard work to bring us a great SWC this year. I felt the contest was run smooth and the field set up very comfortable. It reminded me of the old field, very much the same feel. The Slow Stick combat was great to watch. I am sure that event will grow rapidly! Congrads to all that placed. A job well done considering the landing conditions on Saturday. I really don't think many, if any made all their landings all weekend. Mother nature did get take a stab at us on Sunday. For those who got hit by the big sink cycle in the last round, I feel for ya! Been there, done that! Thanks again CASL! I WILL see you next year! Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Re: New Wing Bag Supplier and its pretty awesome for the price!
glen go to search and punch in AVA then go to the Charlie Britt thread. you will find pictures of my build. i am not finished yet, flying is 2-3 weeks away. i am really impressed with this glider. Charlie -- CHARLIE BRITT 7 charlie francis --- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums. Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com --- Win free R/C Gear! View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=186609 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] New Bag Al!
Greetings! As the gliders grow and grow my old bags become more useless.. Rather than ask the manufacture of the glider to change the mold because it won't fit in my bag. I will look to Al! The bag lady guy to make me a new bag.. Please contact me Al. Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Don't throw your damaged wings away!
Greetings! I agree with Gordy!!Wait! What am I saying??? Well I actually took my damaged wing and cut it into 6 section's! I wanted to see how they were put together.. It was a great learning experience. I understand more about wing construction. I carried a few sections around for a few weeks. What a great conversation piece... All the pilots that examined the pieces were very interested as well.. The wing in my opinion wasn't repairable. The spar was broken and splintered severely! Yes it cost me a round which was unfortunate. But I gained knowledge... Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Scale?
Greetings! I see lots of people compare TD/F3J/F3B to scale. I am a full scale glider pilot.. In the past I have given glider intro rides. Lots of them. There is no points for anything! Yes you have to land at the field preferably! And I can land and stop at the same spot everytime. Gliders are equipped to land very well. They also have wheel brakes that work very well. This is simple energy management. That is basically what flying is all about! When a pilot in a TD contest can't make it back to the tape? Energy management! When a pilot approaches the landing tape with good conditions into the wind, and has lots of speed and DORK's it? Energy management! To stay up in soft conditions? Energy management! In full scale competition they have lots of points similar to our point system. They get points for speed and distance. Not for landings! But they do have to land back at the field. Thats a task in it's self concidering the distance they traveled. I do have question's about R/C scale meets. What do they do? Are there any points? Why do most of the tow planes look like a giant square fuselage with a park bench wing on it? I have never seen a real tow plane like this! So you have this beautiful three thousand dollar glider towed up with a thing that doesn't look like anything! I have watched several video's of launches and landings.. Real tow planes can't tow straight up! Again not scale! And 99% of the glider landings were very sketchy.. Lots of bouncing, ground looping, rolling off the runway into the rough. And several breaks on landing... I guess I don't get it? It's suppose to be scale! It doesn't look like scale! Well the only thing that looks scale is the glider. And there were a few nice looking tow planes.. But very few! Thanks for the thread! Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Thread is getting old!
Greetings! Well I can agree with lots of stuff on this very strung out thread. I hope it breaks soon! I agree that if pilots want a woody contest that they should have it. I agree if you don't like skeggs, you shouldn't use them! It's your choice! Just because another pilot uses a skegg, doesn't mean you have to. In fact I would like to see a pilot win Phoenix next year without a skegg. As far as the hard DORK landings not looking right? Well I agree! A hard dork is not a good landing. It's either bad energy management, or a down wind landing. Just because you have a skegg, you should still land with minimum energy. I agree with Daryl, The best pilots find a way to get through the bad luck and turn it into a good flight. After all, that's what we all strive for! Finding the lift when it's not obvious! Finding the lift when other pilots are falling out of the sky. But even the best can have bad luck and not finish where they wanted. If we make it to easy, as many pilots have wanted, the best pilots will never loose. The only thing I will not agree with is some of these crazy landing targets that CD's come up with. I think most pilots are use to a tape. We fly a tape all year in our club contests.. Pilots get use to this. It's a standard I think everyone uses.. When we go to a big contest and see a freakish landing target it gets lots of pilots uptight! They don't feel comfortable! They start to put the blame on the target, not their skills.. It is fair for everyone! A challenge for everyone! I really don't mind seeing a challenging target. But for the majority it isn't the ideal. And since it's all of us pilots who make the contest a contest I think a standard tape would be more accepted and appreciated. Perhaps we should talk about Phoenix! Where are the entry forms?? Will there be a contest in February? Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] How High?
Greetings! Well if you can see, and controll, and tell what a 2-meter ship is doing at 4100 feet! Then you must be Superman! Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] F3J Team Selection!
I will have to disagree about the Juniors not flying enough. The seniors didn't fly enough! We had very poor weather for this contest. We know who we can blame for that! Phil decided at the pilots meeting that the Juniors would fly two rounds between the Senior rounds. That's actually more than in past team selections. If the weather would have been normal for this area, I think the Juniors would have flown more rounds than ever in this event. It was frustrating for all who attended. But I think Phil did well with what he had to work with Thanks Phil! Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Escape takes top 4!
Good Day! After a HOT, grueling day of F3J with winches. The top 4 placed with Escapes! Another great contest in the Rockies! Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Winch Frames!
Good Afternoon! Thanks to all that replied about winch frames.. I have one problem. The machined aluminum winch reel I have came with a bearing to support the other end of the reel. I see the winch frames available doesn't call for a support bearing. I would think the support bearing would increase the life of the motor bushings. So am I worried about a non-issue? Thanks Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Altitude!
Good Afternoon! A friend asked me the other day what I would guess the max altitude with an open class ship (130 inch wing) would be. I say 2000 is spec out. This is comfortable enough to follow! Get your time, and land. The other day my friend did a lo-lo flight.. He took it up to a very uncomfortable altitude. That turned out to be about 2500 feet... Just the facts Mam! (Dragnet) Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Looking!
Hello! I am Looking for a good Xantipa tail. Preferably one that hasn't flown. Thanks! Cheers Charlie! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Oldest Pilot!
Greetings! Thanks to all that responded about who has the oldest competing pilot. Thanks John Raymond! Great responses!!! So I guess the RMSA has the oldest competing pilot. I think that's pretty darn cool! I can only dream of accomplishing that! I salute Art for not loosing that desire to soar! To enjoy soaring as much as he does. I actually believe that is what keeps him young at heart. May A thermal put a smile on your face.! Cheers! Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Oldest Pilot!
Good Morning! Well I haven't gotten any response about having a pilot older than Art. Could it be that he is it??? I think it's a very cool thing that he comes out and participates like he does Gives us lots to look forward to... I think we all hope we can be out there flying when we are retired and have the time Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Aviomodelli VOR 250
Aviomodelli? I have the Arriane. This is a motor glider. Same thing, duraflex fuse, foam sheeted wings. Very nice kit to build! I had this about 8 years ago. At that time I never flew an R/C glider before. So I can't say how they thermal. I had a 40 size engine on it, and it flew very well, looked scale!! I remember my final approaches were way out and low or it would over fly the runway. So it had a really flat glide. I put over 900 flights on it. I finally lost it when the elevator cable broke loose, pulled to many G's and torn the rod out of one wing.. I still have the wings.. And I acquired a new one through this exchange a few years ago. So it will be built this year. (I hope) This time I will put flaps for landing and camber for thermaling.. I think it will perform a great deal better. They also make a variety of wood models, and power models that have the same duraflex fuse.. They look very scale that way... I predict the VOR 250 will be a great flying ship.. Good luck! Cheers Charlie - Original Message - From: Tim McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: [RCSE] Aviomodelli VOR 250 Does anyone know about this ARF sailplane kit? It has pre-sheeted obechi wings, molded duraflex(ABS?) fuselage, 250 centimeter (98) wingspan, 2 ch. . Aviomodelli VOR 250 Cremona, Italy. I won it in a raffle years ago but just recently opened the box for a good look and was surprised by the quality. I did a Google search but didn't find anything. Just curious. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Thanks CASL!
Good Evening! I want to take this time to thank Dave Wenzlick and the whole CASL club for another great contest! Even with some early winch problems, They still got it handled! My hats off to you guys! The conditions were by far the most challenging at the SWC I have encountered in the 4 years I have attended! I would like to congratulate all the pilots for their individual achievements! We all place differently each year we attend. But it's all about our efforts and focus that make this contest a great event! Also thanks to Dave Darling for the glass of wine at the BBQ! It hit the spot Dave! Cheers! This is a really great contest!! Trust me! We drove through snow for 150 miles to get there! I would drive through 150 miles of cow pies to get there next year! Right now I think I will have a brew in my new Mug! Cheers Charlie P.S. I think your right about that other Joe! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] F3J And Thermals!
Good Morning! Looking at what people are choosing to do with the new F3J rules.. I think the safest tow would be a straight out tow.. I don't believe the tow will have the energy of the conventional tow method.. But with the new lighter weight ships out, They would do a bit better with a weaker tow. There will be more time spent on the line, hence lower flight times. So who cares!! All pilots will be on the same page! The only problem I see is the creative tow tactic's. There is the opposite tow, where the is an anchor man that runs twords the glider. and the pulley man who runs away from the glider.. This can be a problem if something lets loose. According to the rules in our contest coming up in the rockies.. The CD states that if you should do this type of tow, a saftey harness will be attached to each towing device to the tow man. I don't believe this was ever allowed in the original F3J tow rules. It stated hand tow..Hold it with your hand!!! You couldn't use a harness of any kind! Well who is to decide that if we do use the saftey strap. That the tow men aren't useing this strap to actually tow?? Or will there be a certain amount of slack in the saftey strap?? Will we trip over this slack?? I see this to be a kind of Charlie Foxtrot! F3J is very competative ! Pilots are going to push the limits to get into the hunt! Or on the team! Or win the worlds! This could be where a saftey issue could be a problem.. Trying a new method. Not a proven one! If the new rules should stay in effect.. I would have to vote for only one tow. Straight out! This is safe and its the same for everyone. As was the original rule! There were no tricks other than just good tow men! I will agree with the Germans.. This is insane as far as I am concerned.. There are sports that go on each and every day that involve injuries. This sport is not a dangerous sport!!! If a protest should happen I would support it! Thermals Shmermals!! The next thing we are going to say is that we understand women! Thermals are a product of mother nature! And as we all know Mother nature is very hard to figure out. Oh??? Maybe because she is a woman?? hahahha I don't believe they rotate.. I have studied birds of pray for 16 years. They don't have a preference in left or right. I see birds change direction more than we do. I see some pilots get into a thermal and once we are locked in, they tend to just keep it in the same turn... Birds on the other hand move around much more. I have flown full scale gliders for 14 years.. One flight I hooked a thermal , and took it up several thousand feet..I was above a ranch that was burning a pile of brush.. This smoke and smell stayed with me for several thousand feet.. I decided I couldn't handle it anymore.. I ran to another thermal, When looking back the smoke from this fire was just a straight plume rising upwards. It wasn't rotating! Just rising like smoke from a cigarette in an ashtray.. One gentleman was talking about a down wind turn in a thermal.. Once your in a thermal, I don't belive there is a downwind.. But it could be a sink turn..Flying half in lift. half in sink! Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] In the name of research...
I am thinking about putting two .061 on a twin jet when its really worn out it would decrease the weight by 17 oz. I don't know if I could manage it, But it would be fun to try.. hahahha I do lots of 1/2 A combat so i have norvel engines Just a thought Cheers Charlie - Original Message - From: Mike Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rcse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] In the name of research... I suggest norvel. They have great little engines and know how to use them. Mike http://www.norvel.com/ - Original Message - From: Woody Ruszala [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: [RCSE] In the name of research... Folks, One of my professors (University of Maryland) is doing research on small internal combustion engines (read model engines). The goal of the research is to find the best available power plant for MAVs (micro air vehicles). Does anyone know where I can get information on engine break-in? Apologies for non-glider related question. Any and all help greatly appreciated, Woody _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] VIRUS
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[RCSE] Right of way
Good Morning Well My posts took two days to go through. I have no idea why. I have been recieving posts, But not mine.. The subject of winch right of way is resolved thanks to all who posted. Thanks for all the info! In conclusion it was the fault of both parties. The AMA rule does not apply in a non-contest situation. Common sence does apply. Thanks again! Charlie
Re: [RCSE] Rude ? Who?
To Whom It may concern The deal is. That Friday before the contest there were winches set up at the east end of the field... The turn arounds where near the landing zone.. Everything was ok, It wasn't the CASL guys.. This was the pilots responsibility. Fo rthe most part it was working well. That is until some pilot launched when my friend Gary was landing. The winch pilot didn't clear the launch area. He launched and ripped the Saphire just ahead of the tail. It was trash.. I was surprised that the pilot that winched didn't even step up... At least to say he was sorry... He knows who he is.. And he will have that karma to deal with... Charlie - Original Message - From: "Rick Brown and Jill Wiest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: [RCSE] Rude ? Who? bobless wrote: Must sell because a rude gentleman at the Southwest Classic launched while landing and it got tangled up in the winch line. Or does anyone have a fuselage for sale? I guess a talk with the organizers of the SWC are in order. They obviously should not set up so that the landing zones and landing approach are directly through the launch area. Or maybe they should just not allow 'rude' gentlemen to 'launch'. Or should that be 'land' RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Right of way?
Good point on the rules Dick,, Thanks It was not an organized deal. I understand that's a rule, But before I put one of my gliders in the air I would clear the area.. In the contest I saw many times where the winch master held up launching because of a glider trying to thermal low and in line with the winches... Or the glider was simply trying to make it over to the landing zone This is good judgment!! And he took the proper precaution to avoid a collision. I think that people need to make exceptions to the rules. and use some common since. Rules are made by people Doesn't always mean they apply in every case.. Charlie
[RCSE] Right of way
There are several questions concerning launch right of way. I like to see this.. I do have to disagree with the flying plane having a better view of the launch area. When flying, it isn't always easy to look around when close to the ground.. While the launch pilot has time and can focus down the line. He doesn't have to launch at a given time. The flying pilot doesn't have the time. And he is committed to land.. In full scale, the glider always has the right of way. The glider can't go around. This isn't saying that model gliders should be treated the same. But It is something to think about.. Who has the most options??? Another point I would like to make is that this has nothing to do with a contest. This was the pilots that were out practicing. There was no organization And it was crowded. I chose to stop flying. It was just to crazy. So this was something I think all the pilots should have been looking out for. Each other!! The glider that got damaged was close to the end of the winch line. and was low coming in.. I think if the winching pilot would have been looking. He would have seen the glider approaching.. Like I said, It was very crowded. I had to be very careful when launching on my short upstart I never launched until I was certain that it was clear. Most of the time I would have to hold for a minute.. Also there were many gliders/handlaunch that were flying over the winch lines. So people knew it was hectic. I don't want to change the rules. But I think its a good thing to bring up the awareness of what could happen. Charlie
[RCSE] Right of way
The rulebook rule was instituted to provide some orderliness to apotentially chaotic situation. However, it only holds in sanctionedcompetition. Non competition situations must rely on common sense andgood judgment Ok guys.. It seems like my posts are not going through.. This whole thing has gotten out of hand.. Look at the statement above! What happened at the classic was not during competition. This was a practice! The rule does not apply!! Common since does apply here.. The glider in question was in the launch area near the turn around.. Not good judgment.. But so where many others. Again. Not good judgment! The pilot winching didn't clear the lines... Not good judgment!! I guess the thing that bothers me is the fact that the pilot winching didn't even have the consideration to at least confront the other pilot to say something! Like sorry about your glider I didn't see you ,, Or anything.!! I know we loose models in this sport. I think it's a decent thing to show the other pilot some respect for the loss. Not , oh well to bad, wasn't my fault!! And avoid it all!! Like I said. Its his karma.. Not mine! Charlie
[RCSE] Batteries
Just wanted to say that I contacted BatteriesAmerica. They were really helpfull. And I thought the price was very reasonable.. I ordered a set of custompacks for my R/C TruckNeeded more longevity... They set me up ! I have been pulling up Handlaunch gliders with this thing. It''s fun! Works well. I finally found a nice heavy 4x4 with dual motors and nice large tires for going through grass.. I am crurious as if this will pull a boomerang.. So thats our next experiment Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] Landings: a complete waste of time?
I think the landing is the hardest part! As in full scale soaring, the landing aproach is a precision manuver. It's very critical! There is a big penalty paid if you mess up!! In soaring contests there are several cases where everyone will stay up! The lift is everywhere... The precision landing aren't nessesarily DORK landings. They are what you make them.. If your speed and pattern are correct. It will be a nice low energy landing. I think the DORK landings are a result of inproper speed. Going to fast makes a pilot drive it in to hard. They have no choice, if they want landing points.. I try never to have to drive a model in hard. Besides, the rules for unlimited are very stricked. You can't loose a part on landing. You can't flip over! In F3J european event!!! They are allowed to drive them in and destroy them if they want.. As long as the nose cone stays on the tape, they are ok!! I think that makeing a low energy landing is a very hard thing to do everytime with conditions the we deal with.. The models will take a slightly hard DORK. But I have seen very hard DORKS.. There is no reason for that... Well? Except for Visalia. Where they set up for down wind landings.. Very different comared to what we are use to. But never the less a challenge. And everyone is on the same page. I think it is much better to master the landings than to change the rules... There are many people who would like to see skeggs go away to.. If they do?? Fine!! I will learn to land with out skeggs... Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Landings: a complete waste of time?
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[RCSE] fun,fun,fun
Hey guys Well yesterday I decided to go fly power.. I few guys from our glider guys showed up also with the same idea... Well we couldn't just fly power,, we had to start towing up the zagi.. with some kite string. no releases!! Sounds kinda iffy hey?? Well it worked great.. we even towed up a ninga... I fixed the string to the top wingbolt on my 5th scale cub. and to the nose of the gliders,, when we got high enough. I went to idle, and the glider just overflew me. we just put the hook on the nose of the glider and used a ring... Its fun to experiment charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: CASL Pylon Races
Merrill Brady wrote: Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: CASL Pylon Races Sent:11/6/00 4:46 PM To: Charles Miller, [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Joe Momma, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bring it on! I will be flying one. Merrill Cool Merrill, I will have to get building on that thing.. Still layin in the hobby room unopened Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Servo Covers!!
Hi there Looking for the servo covers.. The tape on style , about 3 to 4 inch..round!!! Any help is appreciated/// Thanks Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Nat's????
Good Morning I had to cancel the Nat's two years in a row,, due to my demanding buisness well when you own it , your married to it!!! I was bummed both times,,, I know it's a good contest... Many of my flyin buddies have informed me that i missed a good contest.. I believe them. I think one of the things i missed about going, is meeting all the pilots that frequent this exchange,, meeting the people who duke it out on here. flying against them, and learning from all of themit's kind of cool to associate faces with names,,, I was allways under the impression that this contest was the big daddy of contests.. i know visalia has more flyers in one category than anywhere.. but what i was refering to is the fact that lots more people from all over would be at the nats...because it's centrally located, more classes are flown. and its for the national title It has appeared to me that the national title hasn't much clout according to some people,, well i don't agree with this... If you go to the nats , you are flying against who ever comes for that title,, If a pilot chooses not to show, and mabe challenge the title, then they don't have much to say about that...seems like to some people the nats is a little below them... I don't think we should let them take away from the importance and fun of competing in the nats, or mabe AMA should use the nats as a sort of stepping stone to USA team selections... I guess i am curious why this isn't mabe a qualifyer? I guess some people have to be dead nuts serious, and only go big or stay home,, or go when it's convienent for them... but It;s like phoenix in febuary,,, what a great contest,, lots of flyin, and for those of us from alittle cooler climate,, a break from winter. after each day pilots dig out thier electic stuff, throw lights on it, and fly untill they feel like it... and the BBQ. you can hear people talking about how they did, good or bad... pilots make this sport happen... all the pilots...Nats pilots, phoenix pilots,,, visalia pilots,, southern pilots.. we are all in the same boat... i think the clicks are everywhere.. and that is natural... but we are all in it for the same thing fun. and competitive soaring I will see you all at the next Nat's... for sure! Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Stores over CA
Sorry Sheldon's doesn't carry Futaba anymore. Charlie - Original Message - From: "The Love Villar family" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bruno Pavani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "RCSE" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Stores over CA on 6/5/2000 4:19 PM, Bruno Pavani wrote: I'm going to travel to California on June's last week and I'm looking for stores witch have the Futaba 8UAFS, any help? Have you tried Sheldon's Hobbies at http://www.btown.com/sheldons/ ? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] IF3F News Update
And don't forget the Pizza M Charlie -Original Message- From: Craft Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:06 PM Subject: [RCSE] IF3F News Update Darn, it's been days since I spouted off about the race. Sorry to keep you in the dark Kev. New webpage has been created to keep everyone up to date prior to the event. I will attempt to keep it current everyday. It is dated so you can keep an eye on me... http://home.fda.net/~craft/IF3F2K.htm I will be adding the list of prizes to the page. If you do not like the pilot order for some reason, keep in mind I have several things to worry about... 1. keeping like frequencies at least 3 pilots apart. 2. keeping a nice spread for the pilots who are assisting me with timing, scoring and safety officer duties (bless them with good wind mother nature...) 3. keeping team mates (official or otherwise) apart so they can assist each other during the competition. Let's race... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] shipping charges/ and Sal
just want to touch on the shipping charges thing. once i had a aviomodelli motor glider, (very cool model) i lost the canopy. i still flew it, looked like hell, but it flew. i finnally got tired of the look. i couldn't find one anywhere. except in Italy.. so i managed to order one (no one spoke english), the canopy was 12 bucks.. shipping?? 50 bucks.. i was very happy to get it back on the model... i guess no matter what you order, form whoever.. they have to charge shipping. i have never really seen free shipping. well , if you have an order that exceeds 100 bucks from tower, i think they ship for free. but if your gonna order something really small, you may pay just as much for shipping as for the part. oh well, thats the soaring business, if we need it, we have to have it. sometimes it is a high price to pay. but it keeps us flyin. Sal? i suggest try him out... i have done a fair amount of buisness with Sal. I have not had a problem. and if i did. well no one is perfect. and when people mess up, the whinners get all over them... thats par. Sal has a buisness that is totally geared twords us!!! yes there are other places to get things. but it seems that everyone has something alittle different. so we need to shop all of them on occasion...Give the guy some credit for being there! the hobby buisness is a hard one.. It's probebly the last buisness i would want to start. i have seen way to many go under.. If i need something that Sal has,, i am going to get it from him. and if he says it will cost 8 bucks shipping for a single skegg. and i agree. then i am not going to fuss about it... thats life! charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Charger troubles
I need some help troubleshooting my Hobbico Accu-Charger. This is the "old" black box version - not the new peak detector charger in a white box. When I select discharge for my four cell flight packs, the charger begins the discharge cycle, it continues for 5-10 minutes then switches to charge (indicating that the packs are discharged to 1.05 volts per cell, and ready to take a full charge). When I check the supposed fully discharged packs, they read 5.3 volts. When I perform the same discharge/charge cycle on my friend's identical Accu-Charger, it indicates that the packs have over 200 minutes left (not 5-10). I placed a DVM in the circuit with the pack while it was connected to the unit. The pack reads 5.3-5.4 volts. When I press the button to begin the discharge, the voltage drops to 4.3 volts. I have cleaned the slider switch that selects the number of cells (3, 4 or 5 cells) with tuner cleaner. Any suggestions from users of this unit or electrical savvy fliers? TIA Charlie Thompson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] zagi lee vs boomerang
Louis Gonzalez wrote: what is the diference between this two? i fly zagis a lot but never seen a boomerang in action. luis good morning well if you were to look at them there isn't that much difference, the standard zagi is alittle heavier than the boomerange,, you can get a hand launch zagi that is very lite, but not advisable for combat.. i have seen them come apart with a good whack the boomerange seems to recover from a hit alittle better from what i have seeen we mix them up with all the time and they are sure fun.. i don't think as a first time wing person that you would be disapointed with either, i fly boomerange,, just my preference.. thats all.. soar high charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] thank you !!!
thanks to all the responce you people gave me on the composite site, it's very much appreciated. hope your soaring is tops!!! charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re:Playing in the Cloud Street
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 99-09-06 22:57:17 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was a puffy cumulus day, with cloud streets lined up all the way from Mishiwaka to Wapakaneta. It got me thinking about how full size sailplanes use the cloud streets, and how the streets form. Are the open lanes between the lines of clouds running with the wind or cross wind? Cloud streets run parallel to the wind, they really are obvious when seen from a visible satellite image. A HREF="http://nimbo.wrh.noaa.gov/"NWS western region images/A Are those open lanes full of sink? You bet your L/D ratio! Miles of sink in a long straight line. If you are going cross country, do you fly down the lines or across the lines? Fly along the lines, under the clouds, no circling. Something called "dolphin flying" works well. This is slowing down (pulling up) in the best lift and speeding up in weaker lift. Average speeds over 100 kts result in good conditions. There is also an optimum angle to cross the streets for a given lift strength and course leg distance and direction. What prinicipal of self organization causes cloud streets? Wind velocity 20-30 kts, conditionally unstable air mass, relatively smooth terrain (not the Rocky Mts, for instance). Cloud streets can happen without clouds, too. Then they are called "blue streets" and can be tough to identify. Picture yourself flying along in sink for quite a distance, speeding up to get out of the sink, thinking there must be big thermal just ahead, and this goes on for several miles. You are likely parallel, and right in between the lift zones. If one realizes this and alters course laterally before flying into the ground, the day is saved. Mark Navarre ASW20 4R - RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] good explanation mark!!! i have soared many cloud streets,, funny thing there, sometimes there is lots of sink between the clouds,, sometimes moderate sink.. depends on the day... once i flew my asw20, RR from ft summner new mexico to santa fe.. 110 miles in about 55 minutes,, never turning..it was like you had an engine :) that day was a 350 mile day... i also think that if one was to go for a model cross country flight.. that the cloud street w ould be a great highway to take.. in colorado we have cloud streets that go clear into kansas... as far as the eye can see blue thermals. or blue streets are very difficult to read... i have gone several miles, loosing many thousand's of feet wondering where the next thermal is? and then it hits you.. but it can be alittle nerve racking if your far away, and you definatly need the lift to get home... well happy soaring :) charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
