Re: [RCSE] Why RDS did not work for me... long
Oleg, I have used RDS in my scratch built 1/4 scale Woodstock for more than a year and they have performed flawlessly. I have also installed them on flaps and ailerons in my tow plane, and can get 90 deg. flap with no trouble. They move smoothly all the way down and up even when moved by hand. Certainly the positioning of the shaft must be correct to make it work, all I did was to put it together and do some trial and error then ground some flats on the shaft, nipped up the screws, hey presto, works great. Dennis - Original Message - From: "Oleg Golovidov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] Why RDS did not work for me... long > Content-MD5: /blEUAcXFpZL42aHYxpCnQ== > > Sorry for sending a negative post about this great gadget, but I can't hold this > to myself any more :-) I may be the only sore looser with negative experience > with RDS, but I still want to share it. > Harley, please, do not consider this as a disrespect to your invention - I truly > admire your ingenuity and thank you for all you've done for our hobby! > > My claim is that RDS are not a truly correct mechanical design and if all > components are done correctly (stiff shaft, no slop in the support bearing, > servo mounted absolutely firmly, control surface hinge infinitely strong) will > not work. There are some ASCII diagrams below that require a fixed width font > text editor (mail reader) to display correctly, so all of you using 'wonderful' > HTML browsers for reading e-mail will need to set them to use fixed-width fonts > or read my message in a text editor (notepad). > > Here is the proof. The two lines on the diagrams below are: 1) RDS shaft, o - > shows the bend location; 2) control/wing surface, o - shows the hinge axis. > > > First, let's look at the flap RDS installation. As Harley mentioned, to get 90 > deg down deflection, you have to position the bend of the shaft behind the hinge > line a little (more precisely, by the distance between the hinge and the shaft > axis), so that when deflected 90 deg the shaft goes 'around' the flap/wing > surface corner, keeping the shaft equal distance from the surface. > > > distance due to RDS pocket thickness and half shaft diameter > | > | > | > `|' >oservo > -o-- > > >o---servo >| o- >| | >| | > same | | >distance ---> | > | > | > | > | > > > Now, look at an intermediate flap position, say 45 deg down. The distance > between the shaft and the control surface is now greater by the factor of > 1/sin(45deg) = 1.414. The shaft will be pulling the control surface away from > the wing. If the servo is mounted firmly and the shaft doesn't bend, the hinge > tape will be pulled off the wing surface (which is exactly what I expected AND > observed when I tried RDS). Depending on how stronly you glued the servo into > the wing or just taped it, the servo will either move towards the flap, or/and > rotate a little horizontally if the shaft is allowed to shift horizontally at > the hinge line (recall that for flaps RDS shaft is placed at 45 deg angle when > looking from the top, so it will want to move sidewise). If the shaft is thin > and the servo mount doesn't give at all, the shaft will bend. If you used a > support bearing at the hinge for the shaft, and the servo is mounted reasonably > well, the hinge is the only thing that can give up, and so it does... > > > o---servo >/ o > / / > / / > / / >increased / >distance---> / > / >/ > > > Now look at the up flap deflection (reflex). The picture is reversed - the > separation distance between the shaft and the flap surface is decreased down to > zero at 45 deg deflection. The servo will be jammed away from the flap, and/or > the shaft will bend in the opposite direction. > > > \ >\ > \ > \ > \ >\ > oservo > o > > > > > Now let's see how it l
[RCSE] WE'RE DOWN TO ONE WEEK TO GO!!!
So here is one last reminder for the 27th Annual Spring Sailplane Challenge: Sunday, June 3, 2001 at Simsbury Farms - 77 Old Farms Road, West Simsbury, CT Sponsored by the Yankee Silent Fliers Association (YSFA) as we continue the long-standing Spring Sailplane Challenge tradition in Simsbury, Connecticut. · The YSFA is principally funded through this annual contest. A YSFA membership for 2001 (normally $5.00) is available free to each registered contestant. · Without a large established club to furnish labor, we rely on contestant help. Please plan to arrive early and/or stay late to help setup and breakdown the meet. Help with registration, scoring, winch operation, etc., may also be needed over the course of the day. · Certificates are awarded at the meet; engraved trophies commensurate with the number of entries will be ordered and shipped after. · AMA rulebook events 442 & 444, plus RES/2M & RES/>2M; International Duration (T1) with Landing Bonus (L4); 12v winches w/ retrievers. · One event, $10; two events, $15; three or four events, $20. Pilot's meeting at 0915; open window format; 3 rounds minimum. · Please pass the word. And remember - for information, map and directions, visit our website at www.ysfa.rcclubs.com. And since we have a handy-dandy local weather link on the YSFA website, I'll not be sending out my traditional contest-morning weather estimate - such is progress (plus I get to sleep in)... Hope to see you all at the meet, Rod Peterson (CD) _ Visit Radio Control Online - http://www.rconline.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FAIsoaring] Re: [RCSE] Re:Requiem for the Stake
Greetings, I haven't seen anything yet that prohibits the staking of the anchor-person to the ground. As long as there is no solid connection between the line and the stake it should be within the rules? A length of line around the waist of the anchor-person should hold. If that were allowed, would you still be able to "tow" with two people? If you took the third helper from the pilots side for the position of anchor, which is not towing, you could still use two to pull? But, I think the aim is to reduce deaths and the new rule should do that, though it might increase injuries. Lower launch altitudes will make the task tougher. The better pilot should have a clear chance to win. Differences in launch equipment will show up. Oh well, it is F3J. Dennis __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] So.CT sloping
Steve, Winds are supposed to be strong out of the NE tomorrow. I'll be going to West Haven, the Sandy Hook srea to look for a 'berm'. Dennis NO trees were injured during the process of retrieving planes! --- Stephen Syrotiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such as it is. > Click on Sloping at New Haven Harbor. > More to come as wx permits. > > > -- > Stephen Syrotiak; Anticipating a two day snowfall. > Southern Connecticut > http://members.home.net/stephen.s1 > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Disappearance of midpriced sailplanes
Dudes, He admitted that he was on drugs! HEHEH! --- Regis White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Give him a break, he was sick. :~) Regis Dennis __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3J in the Rockies ++ Send in your entries NOW
Mark, Thanks you for once again running FAI events so we can enjoy participation in the International sport of Modeling! = Dennis Phelan In a crisis, you don't rise to occasion. You sink to the level of your training. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Unsubscribing
Dudes, I've had this problem as I use an auto signature and subscribe through Yahoo which adds a trailer. On the line immediately after the "unsubscribe" line, use the "end" command and the listguy won't be confused by the 'other' stuff. You need to do it for the authorization thingie also. Maybe this works for HTML too? Good luck! Dennis __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Re: WHIPPER WHIZ INTERGALACTIC CONTEST!
Stuart, The closest shop to you is "Build Right-Fly Right" in Yalesville, CT. >From Rt 68 take a right and go south on the Hartford Turnpike. He's past the lights in a small stip mall 1/2 mile on the left. He'll be moving to larger store in February, how's that folks! = Dennis Phelan In a crisis, you don't rise to occasion. You sink to the level of your training. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] emphasis on thermaling
Dude, HEAVIER planes! Much heavier. --- "Henke, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Smaller, lighter planes? = Dennis Phelan In a crisis, you don't rise to occasion. You sink to the level of your training. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Landings: "a complete waste of time"?
Gentlemen, The answer is already in the rule book, it's been there for a long time. AMA TD is not just supposed to be a duration task with a landing option. The tasks are Duration, Distance and Speed. No, I'm not confusing this with FAI F3b! Look in your rule book, someone, at some time included a set of tasks other than precision/international/triathalon/whatever duration. AMA fliers don't like them, CD's and clubs don't run them and they're not even included in activities at the National Championships[except for the running of the F3b event]. If you think that these tasks have nothing to do with thermalling, think again! Talk all you want about landings determining the winner without including these skill and equipment related tasks and you will be missing he boat[plane]. Don't come up with, " There aren't enough people to run these tasks!" either!! If contestants can act as timers, they can count laps or click off a timed run on four laps! To use even one task other than duration as a "tie breaking" task in a contest would eliminate the "landing issue". Dennis FROM THE A.M.A. RULEBOOK: Radio Control Sailplanes Thermal Duration 11. Scoring-General. The intent of having multiple tasks available is not to select one(1) task and have a contest, but rather to use as many tasks as possible during each contest. Especially for contests of two (2) or more days, it is presumed that three (3) or four (4) tasks will be flown. --- John Dertine wrote: >There is a real easy way to improve the >contests with out resorting to the >non flying skill of the dork landing. >Make the flying tasks more >challenging. the problem is that the rules for most TD type events were >developed years ago well before optimized >modern ships were conceived. >I would submit that it is a comment on >the lack of incentive to change rules >to suit modern ship design. --- FRED SAGE wrote: > The reason for precision landings in AMA TD contests is to > determine the winner, or more specifically to identify the more > capable or proficient pilots. Given the current state of the art > with design and construction, making whatever flight task is > decreed is almost routine, at least here in SOCAL >...I > also can't think of a better way of taking the luck out of contest > scores. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: [RCSE] Cobra??? why?
Mark, I didn't know! I have a new spreadsheet that will score six rounds of F3b, I can add to it so it will do 12. Six days makes the matrix easy too! I don't know if I can write a spreadsheet for scoring HLG though, awfully complicated! --- "mark.howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Make the Nat's six days of f3b, and one HLG. Sounds right. = Dennis Phelan In a crisis, you don't rise to occasion. You sink to the level of your training. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Contest Placement
Dudes, Are there really only 50 competitive fliers in the ESL? Does the website only list the top 50 fliers, top 17 sportsmen and top 33 experts? If there are, I[not being an ESL member] would ask why someone would need more classes? = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Trip to German
Dude, Heheh! Didn't Porsche build boxer configuration engines, including overhead cam designs 'before' Ferrari used them in F1? WAY TO GO MICHAEL! Dennis --- "David A. Malone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Boxster gets its name from combining "Boxer" (which is the name > for the water-cooled flat six engine that ferrari developed in > the sixties) with "Roadster". __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Korea Mig Kill
Dudes, The following comes from a Skyraider website: OK, don't read the whole thing, here's the important part pulled out: >Years ago I picked up a paperback >(No, not God's Little Acre) titled >"The Air War in Korea". I made the >mistake of loaning it so I no longer >have it, but if I find another copy >I'll send more info. It had quite a >bit about the AD including the >acknowledgment of being >the first prop aircraft to shoot >down a jet, Mig-15 I think. So, who has a copy of "The Air War in Korea" and what is the date of this kill? Dennis - name: Jim Gardner email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/1/00 Comments I always wondered if any one knew there was somebody inside the old AbleDog. I was proud to be a NAVY Combat Air crewman. I graduated from Aircrew school at Barbers Point, then VC35 sent me through there school in San Diego. Boy was I over trained. By the time we got aboard the Kearsarge the war, excuse me "Peace Action" was almost over. Looking back this was good, then it was bad. How could you be a Hero if there was no war? Boy how our outlook changes as we get older. Our cruise was a "Wait and see" sort of thing. It was so laid back we hosted the movie company, of "The Caine Mutiny" and "The Bridges of Toko-Ri". What a claim to fame. If you see "The Caine Mutiny" again, the opening scene, the carrier refueling the destroyer, that was the Kearsarge on the edge of a typhoon, no special effects. We did finally get to 'The Line', but after one tour we were sent on a Pacific Cruise, Hong Kong, The Phillipies, and on the way back we 'Postured' between Tiawan and China. I wonder if we will back them up next time. Back to Yokosuka and the 'YokoSuka Beer Hall', Ashi, Kirin, and Peace cigarettes. What great memories, and let's not foreget 'Baby San'. I noticed only AD4N's listed for VC35, I remember looking back in my log book, VC35 had everything from AD2Q, 3N, 4NL and other version I can't remember. That's memory for you. I'm not quite sure if some of the planes I logged weren't from VA-115 or not though. Maybe an old Crew Chief (plane captain) will check in with more accurate info. Years ago I picked up a paperback (No, not God's Little Acre) titled "The Air War in Korea". I made the mistake of loaning it so I no longer have it, but if I find another copy I'll send more info. It had quite a bit about the AD including the acknowledgment of being the first prop aircraft to shoot down a jet, Mig-15 I think. Also an episode at King 18, Something about an AD pilot bragging to an air force pilot he had enough power to take off with the wings folded. Hmmm, I believe it. I have the cruise book from my tour on the Kearsarge with a roster of Pilots and air crewmen from VA-115, VC3, VC11, and VC35. If your interested I can send it (the roster) to you. There are a lot of pictures of crews and aircraft that I could scan but I wouldn't know who to contact for authorization. Well I've bent your ear enough for now, but I've got to say, the AD was undoubtedly the best prop the Navy ever had. Best Regards, Jim Gardner (AT2CA) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Korean Mig Kill
Dudes, I have it from "The History of the U.S. Air Force" that the first kill of a "bad guy"[not a MiG though] by piston engined plane was on June 27, 1950. This was the first day of the conflict, the plane was an F-82. So, there were lots of piston planes around when the bad guys were still novices. The F-80's couldn't be doing all the work. The truth is still out there! = Dennis Phelan "Sir! I have no excuse Sir!" __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] COBRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greetings, Easy answer, addiction. Quiet Man wrote:John Roe, 2-33, 1-26, 1-36, Grob 103 twin acro, Grob 102 > ...running out of room on back of license boy. > --- Charles Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > selling a known cool, hard to get, > > expensive plane for half of what it would cost > > to buy and set up ! > > I guess this statement alone would make me ask questions!!!.. = Dennis Phelan "Sir! I have no excuse Sir!" __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Braid or twist wing wiring?
Simon, I did not imply it has no merit. I did imply that I never did it. I don't have a problem, why do the work? Just because someone says I should? I fly my planes to the limit of my visibility and have no problems with maintaining control. Contrary to what appears on this list at times, it's not always necessary to go "All the way" or have "Absolutely the best" to get excellent results for yourself. Dennis --- Simon Van Leeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis, > Why not braid, why not twist? Why imply that it has no merit? > > It has been well documented that long leads, especially those which > are > not twisted, stand a much better chance of picking up extraneous > EMI/RFI > and transferring this signal-changing ability to the servo or RX. > > It is prudent to twist any long leads (long leads being those that > approach or exceed 1/4 lambda...your antenna length). An educated > (wise) > safegaurd. If anyone wants the technical reasons why let me know, > and I > will be happy to oblige. > > Dennis Phelan wrote: > > > > Tom, > > Why braid? > > Why twist? > > Do you have a problem? > > In 13 years of 2.8-3M planes[that's about one per year] I've > never > > braided or twisted and never had a problem. Oh, on some planes I > have > > had small "caps" at the aileron ends, added by the builder. > > --- Tom Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Individual mileage > > > probably > > > varies, but what's the story out there? > > > > Dennis __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] AMA "District 1" F3J fliers
Larry, As you say, the rules allow up to a two man tow. I don't see why a contest would be any other way. Of course, at an event with a small entry, I could see only one towing. I went to L.I. to see the last day of the selection contest. I thought it was a real show. = Dennis Phelan In a crisis, you don't rise to the occasion. You sink to the level of your training. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Picojet Combat
Greetings again! There was good response to this: > Dennis Phelan wrote: > > Is this the best ARF/RTF do anything plane I can get? > > Do anything?? Of course I knew there were few RTF or even ARF in this class and I knew it wouldn't do or be everything. I left it open to hear from you guys. Here's how you stood: 2 fliers were very pro towards the Picojet Combat 2 fliers were very anti PJCombat 3 fliers were very pro Zagi 400 2 fliers liked both for their goods and bads. It's still a difficult decision for me. I really only wanted a plane to take on a camping vacation where the chance of good sloping has always been poor but where there are places to fly. It seems the hours needed to put together a Zagi are not a negative, especially if you're going to power it with a hot 400/400BB/480 and lots of cells, this is true for PJCombat also. Motor makes a big difference here, and I wonder how many PJCombat owners would like their plane if it had a better motor/battery combo? I'm still open but beginning to think that I should get both. That would mean that one would be ready for sure and in the future, I would always have a plane for "anything". Ya, ya I'm still not covering everything. = Dennis Phelan In a crisis, you don't rise to the occasion. You sink to the level of your training. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Towing Gliders
Easy way to control height is to open the spoilers until you are in the correct towing position Dennis - Original Message - From: Charles Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Soaring listserver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:12 AM Subject: [RCSE] Towing Gliders > Good Day > I don't think I would tow two gliders with the same length of line.. The > simple fact that they can crash into one another is reason enough for > me. I have witnessed full scale gliders towing two at once, The line > was staggered,, One longer than the other. You may tow low or high.. but > not in the prop wash! I would also tow with the glider hooked up in the > noseWith a good releasable tow hook!! > I really would like to do some glider towing, But there isn't anyone > around that is interested. I have a 5th scale super cub that would be > perfect... I have tried towing in the past.. and without much success.. > The glider allways wanted to climb out much faster than the plane... I > had one flight where I was somewhat successful, I put a ton of down trim > to start, and it was much more managable. > Charlie > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Battery connector problem, Futaba 8U Transmitter
Dudes, This problem occurred in my JR 388 as well! Intermittent, very difficult for me to detect, JR service found it for me. Dennis --- Dick Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently, I discovered a problem with my Futaba 8UAF transmitter. > The power would go off for a few seconds at random times. The > battery and its female connector checked out fine. The problem was > > traced to the male side of the battery connector which is mounted > on > a circuit board inside the transmitter. This battery connector is > held to the circuit board by only the three solder joints that > connect the pins to the circuit board. These solder joints were > cracked and contact was intermittent. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SPELLING
Carl, Agreed however with the lack of capitilisation, and punctuation, like that below, they won't listen to you. :) Desended from convicts you may be, but unless you have been in jail, a convict you are not. Congratulations on your fourteenth place in the W.C. Dennis Hipperson, Also down under. - Original Message - From: Carl Strautins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Harley Michaelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] SPELLING > Grammer!? > Too late to help them. > The Americans butchered the english language long ago. > But hey, im just a convict dont listen to me! > I'm don't > Carl Strautins > down under > > > > > Harley Michaelis wrote: > > > There seem to be a few subscribers on the exchange who either do not know > > or do not care about correct spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc. > > > > In defense of all, however, it is very easy to overlook an error in one's > > written word, often done in a rush in these posts and discovered only after > > it has been sent off. Any of us can be guilty on occasion. Such words as > > "chord" and "cord", "their" and "there" can easily be misused and > > overlooked. > > > > Some who regularly post on the exchange do habitually and flagrantly > > butcher the language. Unfortunately, while they may have something > > important to say, their credibility suffers in the eyes of those who know > > better. You'd like to correct them, but risk coming off as "holier than > > thou". It's just easier to hit the delete key and let them wallow in their > > ignorance. Personally, I very much appreciate having my errors in the > > spoken or written word pointed out. I just do not understand anyone's > > willingness to go through life screwing up the language. > > > > It seems very odd to me that if I were to say "They doesn't live here any > > more", the guy who says "He don't live here any more" would note my error, > > but be oblivious to his. > > -- > > > From: Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: [RCSE] SPELLING > > > Date: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:25 AM > > > > > > Okay, what is it with all of you who don't know how to spell "losing", > > you know, the word which is similar to "lost"! It's not "loosing"!!! > > > > > > > > > AAARGH! > > > > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's????
Charlie, The Nat's is a stepping stone. F3h[Cross Country] fliers maintained their proficiency should a WC be run anytime. F3k[HLG] pilots, I hear, turned out for what has been reported once again as a fun and competitive day. For the F3j pilots its another "practice, practice, practice" session since they don't have to qualify for the team selection contest. The F3b event is run as a 2 round event making it a "qualifier" and there were three pilots that were unqualified going into the event, I think two were hoping to "Q". Neither qualified that day and I'm sorry we didn't have time to do absolutes after the event. but for the others, all going to the finals in Sacramento[and the Worlds?], it was good practice. Dennis --- charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >, or mabe AMA should use > the > nats as a sort of stepping stone to USA team selections... I guess > i am > curious why this isn't mabe a qualifyer? __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Environmentalist Crackpots
Pat, Thanks! --- Pat McCleave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >None of these > creatures or > plants are insignificant to the whole big picture. = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RE: LSF/AMA Nats 2000 - Thanks
Actually Steve Kaluf & Larry Storie left out a couple of names, - their own. We had an excellent crew at the NATs and the person who put that crew together was Larry Storie. Larry Mentioned over 100 volunteers - people will enthusiastically get involved when things are well prepared like they were at the NATs. Steve Kaluf seemed to be everywhere, bringing in and setting up equipment that was in top shape, taking care of a hundred items, and when the weather turned sour on us he was all over the radar getting us the best info available. We had a lot of good luck at the NATs - the kind of good luck that happens when hard work teams up with thorough preparation. Larry and Steve deserve all the kudos we can give them Thanks again guys. Dennis AdamisinFort Wayne IN Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 09:23 Subject: [RCSE] RE: LSF/AMA Nats 2000 - Thanks Larry, and everyone else. I too want to express my sincere thanks for a very well run soaring Nats. I feel it was the most relaxed and well run event in recent history. Congratulations to Larry for putting it all together and to each event director and all the other volunteers for operating the soaring Nats in the manner in which those involved in soaring enjoy it the most. Rob/Cal; as I sat at the banquet wondering who would get the Lee Gray and Spirit of Soaring award, I'm happy to say that the two names I came up with are the two of you. Congratulations! You both deserve the awards you received. I hope you can keep the same crews for next yeargreat job everyone. Steve Kaluf Technical Director -Original Message-From: Larry Storie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:33 AMSubject: LSF/AMA Nats 2000 - Thanks Thanks to the many ( over a 100 ) individuals which gave much of their time and talents in making the LSF/AMA National Soaring Championships a great success. Most of these people spent over 12 hours a day for ten days to ensure that the Nats ran smoothly, making it a great event for the contestants. Thanks Larry Storie - Nats Soaring Event Director.
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Re: [RCSE] People you should know!
Greetings, I forgot! Phil Renaud helped me to set up, Daryl Perkins gave me some needed counseling as well. Mike Lachowski's electronic timing/lap counting system made the whole day whiz by! The fliers were kind to me also. = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:[RCSE] Pouring lead into tubes
Greetings, I recieved many interesting replies on this. The best results in pouring lead into larger diameter tubes come from filling the entire tube prior to cutting it into the smaller lengths. Oh well! Since I had already cut the tube up, I opted for the simplest fix and used a urethane glue to hold the lead into the sections. The end was then easy to machine clean. Now I have 40oz of ballast and a wing joiner 20oz heavier than the carbon one which should be enough. Thanks all for your input. Dennis --- Dennis Phelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > I'm making ballast in brass tubes that are 1" dia and 1" long. I > poured last night and the lead shrank in diameter enough that it > easily fell out of the tubes. This might not be too much of a > problem > for a smaller diameter tube. > > Should I: > Heat the brass tubes as I pour, > Press the lead down before it cools and just after I pour, > Epoxy the lead in after it cools, > Press the cooled lead causing it to expand and match the tube[I can > make a fixture to hold the tube to diameter], > Roll the ends of the tubes to prevent the cooled lead from > escaping[easy for me to do also]? > > I think any of those would work, what have you found that works for > you? > Dennis Phelan = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3J World Champs pictures and text
Mark, Really nice picture story! Let me know how the deal for the building is going. If it works out and the bank will give you more money, I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in. Dennis --- Mark Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I put aprox 30 pictures and narration up on the web site from the > F3J World > Champs in Greece. I've had quite a few people ask me what planes > were there. > I tried to get pictures of the more frequent, or interesting ones. > > Anyhow, here it is: http://www.f3x.com > > ps- my personal favorite memory, or partial memory, was drinking > the Ukraine > homemade moonshine. > > > Mark Taylor > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] More on throwing up
John, Are you sure of these times? Was your timing device calibrated? Perhaps you had the flights timed by someone else to guarantee accuracy and impartiality? I'll bet you were standing on a backstop or even a roof to get times like those, huh, really? Thank you for the information on hand launch altitude and your dead air times!! --- John Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shortest duration was 1:38 longest was 1:44. > > John Roe = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] My Tx batteries are dying!
Greetings! The pack in one of my JR's is going bad fast. I even had to recharge during the contest over the weekend. Who is selling the highest capacity packs for the JR 388/8103 series? TIA = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B
Dudley, Is the first word that the finals will be put on by your club? = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Foam Cutting Bow
I am thankful too, I built his cutter from plans on the web and it works fine. No feather cuts available in Australia so if not for Del I would not have a foam cutter.Thanks Del Dennis Hipperson Melbourne Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 206887 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, 3 March 2000 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Foam Cutting Bow > To All, > > Interesting! > > I think that what Del is trying to say is that: > > 1) A person can spend a lot of money to get a feather-cut, or > > 2) They can build a (better) design for a lot less money. > > We should all be thankful that Del is around to advise us folks. I know I am. > > Rick Powers > RPV Industries > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Cutting flying wing cores
Tracy, I don't have an airfoil plotting program, but I do have AutoCad. I can rotate the foil and make the profile proper for the blank. I can then put the angle in. On second thought, is the change in camber and thickness really important on a foamie combat type plane? --- Tracy R Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't understand why anyone would do it this way. You end up with > a totally > different airfoil and chord length from what your templates have if > you do it > this way don't you? = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Wind information oops
Not only that but if you are brave enough and want to know who REALLY made the FIRST manned flight, go here, and learn. http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearce1.html Dennis Hipperson Melbourne Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 206887 - Original Message - From: David Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Radio Controlled Soaring Exchange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, 31 January 2000 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Wind information oops > Sorry, forgot to paste in the address :-) > > I think you may be wrong, try this weather site for the NEXT Americas Cup! > > http://www.met.co.nz/wxbin/rec_marine?AKMAR > > Dave L > > "Moved by the wind." wrote: > > > Dave Nasatir wrote: > > > > > real time winds in the San Francisco bay area, > > > http://sfports.wr.usgs.gov/wind/streaklines.shtml > > > > > > Note that your browser must be Java enabled. > > > > You'll need this for the NEXT America's Cup! > > > > Rich B > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Dave Larsen > Auckland > New Zealand > http://www.rcmodels.com/clubs/asfcnz/index.html > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Skegology - Dead horse
Greetings, Given time its possible for something to get better. Last night I saw an add for the NEW Energizer batteries. Twice the power and costs only 1/3 more. Thump! Thump! Thump! Topics should come back to this forum every so often. --- Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's like that damn Energizer Bunny, It just keeps going and going > and > going and going and going. > > Denny Maize > = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hand catching in Major TD contests
Greetings, I think this is a BAD idea. I'm not a safety nut but...just think of few not so perfect catch attempts! The skegs end of this discussion began with the thought of planes sliding or flying low through the landing site. Not good enough, lets do it at 3-4 feet anywhere on the field. OK, limit it to a "spot" on the field, there are still planes flying through and no skegs to stop a bad landing approach here. I don't use skegs. Dennis Phelan = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RES & Skegs
Greetings, Are you, deep down inside, hoping that the ones with the itsy bitsy landing zones and skegs whould change to what the rest of the world has? I don't think it would hurt. Might mmake for a few interesting fly offs! --- Mike Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2 issues, landing tasks... the rest of the world uses the FAI tape, > 1 meter > radius for 100 points... maybe someday they'll come up to speed > with a > better landing test.. > Mike Stump = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] f3b from a total newby's perspective in the USA
Greetings, Jason's right. If you're in New England, I can do that. --- Jason Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So if you are serious about getting into F3b, find someone close to you who knows about it.and ask to help them out. They will probably teach you the ropes and hopefully get you rolling on the path. > Jason Werner = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Winch launches
Greetings! I've already had more coffee than normal today so I won't talk about technique. It always surprises me, when I do go to a TD event, that the folks can't tell when someone has launched into air. I know they can't tell, when I point it out I get the reply, "What?" Not that this is the case all the time. Like I said, too much coffee already! Put an altimiter watchtoo much coffee! Later = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Glider Pilots Poem?
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 11:36 Subject: [RCSE] Glider Pilots Poem? > Hi Guys, > I'm trying to find a copy of the Glider Pilots Poemsome of the words > are"and touched the face of God"...or words to that effectIf you've > got a copy, or know of a website I can download it...please pass the info > along to me... TIA > > Kevin Andersen > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > High Flight by John Gillespie Magee Jr. Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth and danced the sky on laughter - silvered wings Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds - and done a thousand things you have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung. I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through the footless halls of air. Up, up the long delirious burning blue. I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace. Where never lark or even eagle flew. And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space put out my hand and touched the face of God. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 6 mm metric wing rods
Dave, Try these folks, they list 6mm drill rod in 36" lengths. Cheap too. http://www.metalmart.com/index.html --- Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, all! > I could use two or three 6 mm steel round wing rods, approx. 180 mm in > length. Does anyone out there have a US source? TIA. > Dave Darling = Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] need cape cod info
Jason, Try... http://www.seascapemotorinn.com/ --- Jason Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey all, > I need to find the phone numbers for the Cape Cod motel that > everyone > stays at in October. I believe it is the Seascape Motel, but I am > not sure. > Anyone know what the phone number is? > > Jason Werner === Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] New speed run record
Rich, The length of the course is 600 meters[656 yards or 1968.5 feet]. the average speed for the run is then 95.4 mph. Just like the "Indy 500", the time is determined according to a specified distance. A usual place to measure this is one foot out from the inside edge of the track. When you run a lap, they don't care if you're on the line or at the outside edge of the track. Everyone gets compared to the same official distance. Its the same in F3b and its how the average speed is found. It's up to the pilot how much or little space he'll use. Obviously he'll use more than the 600 meters, but someday the planes will get EVEN better and the speed through the course will increase as the distance traveled decreases. John Roe's example uses a total distance traveled that seems a bit high, it might be right if the plane entered the course at the top of its launch, usually there's a dive that cuts this. Other additions to the distance are the 3 turns. The curved path is longer than a straight path between the planes[base A and B] and it gets added to a shorter straight line measurement but is still longer than the 150 meter leg. Speed is a lot more than just getting the plane to go fast, it's about making the distance shorter and keeping the speed up, just like on the race track! Oops! I got sidetracked. --- "Kiburis, Richard A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know the length of the course === Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 100 Point Penalty
John, Crossing the safety line gets you a ZERO for the flight. Landing zone is a 100. --- John Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Best guesscrossed a "safety line", most likely in the air. > > John Roe === Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Marathon sloping (was: Re: [RCSE] Battery?)
Dave, I think that if there was enough reward for just completing the task more fliers, other than Level IV's would do it. The only reward seems to be the attainment of LSF level V or at least the completion of one of its tasks. I DO consider that to be a just reward. === Dennis Phelan __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] roswell
Hey folks, i am looking for a used (but working) roswell flier... anybody out there have one for sale? thanks, dp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [RCSE] Man on Man out of date
Greetings, I could like a TD contest with a format like that! > Bring back the old LSF precision, LSF duration, and LSF distance > speed task > which tested the pilot as well as the plane. > > Forget the frequnecy conflict problem. DEMAND, if you indeed intend > to try > a man on man contest, that the pilot be able to switch frequencies! > Dr. Chris Adams > LSF348, Level 5 (#8) > === Dennis Phelan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
