[RCSE] Re: [F3F] Mammoth redux

2005-08-03 Thread James Osborn

Good job Bob!  I too had a great time.  I think I was lucky with the air I 
drew.  I never got any air that was horrible.  This venue does allow some DR 
technique.  I imagine that it is not as drastic as the European slopes at the 
last VR, but at Mammoth there was a lot more volume than the slopes I am used 
to.  

While watching you fly, it didn't "seem" like you were kicking our asses that 
badly.  Partly I think this is because runs far out from the hill look slower.  
Also watching your turns as a judge on several occasions, it seemed like you 
were flying a long course.  Even after the initial repositioning of the pylon 
sight lines at the beginning of the race (due to a converging course!), it may 
have been that the course was shorter the farther out you flew.  This would 
imply that even if you apparently flew long on a big DR run, you might actually 
be flying a pretty tight course.  On several occasions, when your air wasn't 
quite as good, it looked ugly as you got down there below the lower ledge, but 
your scores prove that maybe DR does dampen the variation in times when you get 
mixed good/bad air.  When I think of trying to apply DR to my local slopes 
though, I just can't see it working.  You really need a high mountain slope 
with some volume out front.

For my part, I used a mixture of techniques.  I had the luck to follow Thuro 
(spelling?), the Austrian designer of the Skorpion, on several occasions when 
he drew crap.  (Flying a super nice prototype carbon Skorpion - coming soon - 
looks GREAT!)  Because of the constant cycling, if the guy before you got crap, 
then you were probably going to do okay.  I liked starting high and closer in 
to the pylons.  If the air was good, then you were rewarded with fast close-in 
"traditional" F3F, very fun.  If it wasn't as good, you could move out deeper 
looking for better air and/or doing a bit of DR.  I only used DR to any degree 
when the air was bad.  If you made a turn and the plane "fell", just go with it 
and stay on the lower line, in other words: DR!  On my fastest run (37.x on 
Sat), I was far out in a monster thermal, but not really doing DR per se.  I 
think Dan's fast run (34.x on Sat), it was similar, not DR per se, just way out 
in a monster thermal (flying a Skorpion BTW).

For any pilots out there wanting to get the chance to practice DR in real 
conditions (maybe to get ready for another European venue?), Mammoth is very 
cool.  You do need a 4WD to get up the jeep road, but the scenery is awesome.  
One word of caution, flying at high altitude (the course was at about 10,500 
feet) requires less ballast!  Maybe 30% less ballast as a rule of thumb?  
Several planes flicked hard and some went down, maybe partly from travel 
volumes too high for the thin air, and maybe partly from being over-ballasted 
in the thin air.

I had a great time racing with the SoCal boys too.  This is my third Mammoth 
race and I am definitely hooked!  Like Randy, I'd be up for more NorCal / SoCal 
races too.  I have the most fun each year at Davenport ISR and Mammoth F3F.  
Like Bob said "great vibe" at both venues.  I'm looking forward to your photos 
too Bob!

-- James

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Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:10:21 -0700

> 
> Wow, just got home to San Diego. Man that's a long drive. For some reason
> coming home takes twice as long as going.
> 
> What an event. This was my first time for F3F in Mammoth and it was
> certainly worth the effort. I had taken Gary's tip a couple of years ago and
> managed to get up there for some fun flying, but without either a radar gun
> for DS or beepers for some turns, it was hard to judge the potential of the
> hill. I think times in the 30's show that this site can deliver. Dan's
> smokin 34.xx was simply amazing. I think just about everyone had some good
> and some bad that an inland mountain slope provides. Feast or Famine x 10.
> 
> Nathan's launch when he couldn't get his plane to actually go down even
> though he was pointed in that general direction as he promptly went from eye
> level to 500 feet in about 3 seconds was a highlight for sure. The silky
> smooth landings on Sunday were a nice addition as well. After we moved the
> cars from Sat to Sun, the top part of the slope became more laminar on the
> backside and made for some precision perfect Torrey Pines style landing.
> Sat, however, could be a bit bumpy (as my crunched wingtip attests). The DS
> is truly great. With the evening air starting to ebb, we still got some
> 170's without much effort. I can only imagine that site with the wind we had
> earlier in the afternoon on Sat.
> 
> Future: I think we better get a pre-registration out for next year. With
> proximity to every kind of lodging and food choices, great alpine
> atmosphere, loads of other activities for the family, Mammoth is really a
> 

[RCSE] Re: NorCal 60" MoM Race - Sunday 10/17/2004

2004-10-18 Thread James Osborn

Due to popular demand, this Sunday's race will be for BOTH Composite 60" and Foamie 60"
classes.  We will alternate rounds between the two classes.  Pilots from both classes 
will
be required to judge turns and/or call for other pilots.  You may enter and fly in both
classes.  (For those pilots who previously signed up for the Composite race, drop me a
line if you want to race your Foamie too.)

The race will be held at the NCSS flying site in Benicia (The Slot) this Sunday
10/17/2004.  Please arrive by 11 AM.  All pilots must have current AMA membership, a
signed NCSS Release on file, and there is a $5 entry fee.  For signup details including
directions, please visit the MoM signup page:

  http://soarheads.com/cgi-bin/soarheads/mom_signup.cgi

Hope to see you there.

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[RCSE] NorCal 60" Crunchie MoM Race - Sunday 10/17/2004

2004-10-05 Thread James Osborn

Greetings MoM Racing Fans,

There will be a 60 inch Conventional Composite MoM race held at the NCSS flying site in
Benicia (The Slot) on Sunday 10/17/2004.  Please arrive by 11 AM.  All pilots must have
current AMA membership, a signed NCSS Release on file, and there is a $5 entry fee.  
For
signup details including directions, please visit the MoM signup page:

  http://soarheads.com/cgi-bin/soarheads/mom_signup.cgi

Please note, according to the 60 inch Conventional Composite rules:

   Span must be in the range of 50 to 60 inches.
   No shock absorbing foam gliders are allowed in this class.
   Foam leading edges or nose are not allowed.
   Only wood or composite construction allowed.

Hope to see you there.

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[RCSE] October NorCal F3F Race - Sunday 10/10/2004

2004-10-05 Thread James Osborn

Greeting F3F Pilots,

The monthly NorCal F3F race will be held at the NCSS flying site in Benicia (The Slot) 
on
Sunday, October 10th.  Race starting time is 11:30 am.  This is an NCSS event.  All 
pilots
are welcome, but current AMA cards are required, $5 entry fee (waived for first time 
F3F
pilots), and a signed NCSS Release:

  http://soarheads.com/soarheads/NCSS_Release.pdf

Directions to the flying site:

  http://soarheads.com/soarheads/theslot.html

Bring your lead, you'll probably need it!  Hope to see you there,

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[RCSE] DS License Plate Holder?

2004-03-06 Thread James Osborn

Anybody know where to get a license plate holder touting DS?  Something like
"Dynamic Soaring - It will change your life!" or the like?

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[RCSE] NorCal 60" Foamie MoM Tomorrow

2003-10-18 Thread James Osborn

Howdy Foamie Fanatics,

The San Francisco Bay Area 60" Foamie MoM race IS ON for tomorrow, Sunday the
19th of October at SHELL RIDGE.  Today's wind (Sat. the 18th) saw speeds of 13 -
23 mph from SSW between 1 and 5 pm.  Meet at the top at noon, racing to start at
1 pm.  Late signups (until Sunday 10 AM or so), go here:

  http://soarheads.com/cgi-bin/soarheads/mom_signup.cgi

Directions to Shell Ridge:

-> From San Francisco / Marin / East Bay, get to the East Bay and head East on
Hwy 24.  Take 24 East to North 680 and take the first exit, Ygnacio Valley Rd. 
Turn right at the signal heading East on Ygnacio Valley Rd.

-> From points North or South of Walnut Creek, take 680 North or South as
appropriate, exit as appropriate and find your way to Ygnacio Valley Rd. heading
East.

-> Once you're heading East on Ygnacio Valley Rd., approximately 1 mile ahead,
turn right on Homestead Ave.  Proceed a short distance and turn left onto
Marshall Dr.  Proceed to the dead end, park, and walk to the top.  There is a
sign which says "Shell Ridge Open Space."

For a map with parking spot starred:

  Go to:  http://maps.yahoo.com
  Enter:  575 Marshall Dr
  Walnut Creek, CA

If you get lost or want to confirm or beg out, call my cell:

  510-377-4514

P.S. If you hate walking to the top of Shell Ridge, call me in the morning...

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[RCSE] Sept. 21 NorCal MoM NOT Race Results

2003-09-24 Thread James Osborn

Greetings Race Fans,

Like the NorCal F3F Not Race at Davenport Saturday, our NorCal 60" Foamie MoM
did not happen.  For a brief rehash (if you care), go here:

  http://soarheads.com/soarheads/norcal_60in_foamie_mom_results_9-21-2003

The next NorCal 60" Foamie MoM will be Sunday, October 19th, 2003.  Races will
be scheduled every 3rd Sunday from here on out, weather permitting.  Go here for
information and signup:

  http://soarheads.com/cgi-bin/soarheads/mom_signup.cgi

Past race results are avaible at:

  http://soarheads.com/soarheads/norcal_mom

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[RCSE] NorCal 60" Foamie MoM - RESULTS

2003-08-20 Thread James Osborn

Grettings race fans.  We had our first NorCal 60" foamie MoM race this past
Sunday.  Everyone had a blast and is stoked to do it again soon.  For race
details, descriptions, results, and photos, see the results page:

  http://soarheads.com/soarheads/norcal_60in_foamie_mom_results_8-17-2003

or just go to http://soarheads.com and select the link on the lower right
corner.  Can't wait to do it again!

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[RCSE] Update: Nor Cal 60" Foamie MoM - August 17th

2003-07-02 Thread James Osborn

A 60" foamie MoM race will be held Sunday August 17th in the S.F. Bay Area.

For details and to sign up, please visit the Bay Area Soarheads home page and select
the Nor Cal 60" Foamie MoM link in the lower right corner:

  http://soarheads.com

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Re: [RCSE] RE: Best $250 sloper

2003-02-17 Thread James Osborn

I thought the Sierra 2.5M had an RG-15?

Brett Jaffee wrote:
> 
> I've always thought the Art Hobby stuff looked nice, but everything they make seems 
>to have a hand launch airfoil.  Not that I'm saying they fly bad on the slope, but 
>it'd be nice if they made something with an RG-15 or something.

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Re: [RCSE] Article from Common Dreams NewsCenter

2003-02-17 Thread James Osborn

Ed,

Honestly, I'm not interested in those other groups.  I'm interested in
the people that I relate to -- YOU.

That article is deep.  Generally when I get forwarded something like
that, I go "oh jeeze, here we go."  But I read it and Byrd really puts
things in perspective.  And I wanted to share that with my flying
brethren.  Sorry if I wasted yours or anyone else's time.

Cheers.

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Re: [RCSE] Makin' wings and lookin' for advice.

2003-02-08 Thread James Osborn

Thomas Koszuta wrote:
> [...]
> a "comprehensive" list of Mark Drela's airfoils and applications.
> [...]

For all interested, Tom is referring to the "Radio Control Soaring" column
by Mike Garton in the March 2003 of the AMA Model Aviation magazine. 
Fascinating reading..

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Re: [RCSE] Finders Keepers?

2003-02-08 Thread James Osborn

Dave,

Did (Alex) the owner of the (Genesis) airplane that was ditched in the
poison oak have his name, AMA number, and phone number properly afixed to
the aircraft?  Could it be that the finder did not know when and who lost
the plane or how to contact said looser?  Personally when I find anything on
the local slopes, whether properly tagged or not, I present the find to the
local community asking "if you can identify it, it's yours."  This is the
right thing to do.

I am surprised to hear about this development.  From your description, I am
not clear: is it known who the finder was?  I would think that we, the local
flyer community, could put sufficient pressure on the finder to do the right
thing.  How about an announcement to the local e-mail list?

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[RCSE] DS-368 Best Price?

2002-12-18 Thread James Osborn

Where's the best price for buying JR DS-368'S?

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[RCSE] Re:

2002-10-21 Thread James Osborn

Don et al:

This is a hoax.  The file does not need to be deleted.  Please do NOT contact
anyone else about this.  See the following link:

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html

FYI, whenever it says MacAfee and NAV won't find it, it is usually a hoax.  It
is easy to check, just visit http://www.symantec.com, hit Search, and type in a
keyword (like jdbgmgr.exe).  It will take you to an appropriate page that will
confirm or deny whether it is a real virus or as in this case a hoax.

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Re: [RCSE] Vendors again!!!

2002-07-04 Thread James Osborn


I've had great experiences ordering from Aerospace Composite Products
(ACP) too:

   http://www.acp-composites.com

Quick prompt delivery even if you place an online order without even
talking to anyone.  You can also visit their "warehouse" in San Leandro
and they let you wander the ailes of tubes, rods, laminates, cloths,
etc. - kind of fun - bring your calipers, tape measure, and your pocket
book!

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Re: [RCSE] HLG cost

2002-06-07 Thread James Osborn


Joe G wrote:
> [snip]
> So this ones for you Denny, Fred, Tom, Oleg, Joe, Daryl, Sal (yea even Sal
> deserves to make a living) and all you other producers and suppliers of
> SOARhead products THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO

Don't forget "Don" and "Phil" (Don Peters and Phil Pearson) at Mapleleaf
Design, makers of the Encore!

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[RCSE] Best Plug Wood?

2002-06-03 Thread James Osborn


I'm going to make a fuselage part plug - it isn't a whole fuselage, just
a round-to-flat conical transition part that will be glued into the
round part of a finished fuselage in the nose cone region.  This will
probably be a male mold; I don't think making a male master followed by
a female mold is required.

What is the best wood to use for plug making?  I have searched through
my RCSE archive (about 2 years worth), and I have found references to
poplar and basswood.  In the past I have used oak and douglas fir, but
my past experiences were for much larger parts (not R/C related
projects).  I have also found many references to finishing techniques
including using epoxy resin, filling auto primer, auto body filler
(bondo), and lacquer.

One post from Joedy Drulia suggested that poplar could be sanded down to
400 grit and waxed without need of paint or resin.  I like this idea -
it is quick, simple, and there would be no way for any paint or filler
to pull off the plug when the part is removed.  If you did this, but
included filling the grain, I would think you could get pretty good
results.  Anybody else try this method?

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Re: [RCSE] 8103 & reverse differential

2002-05-15 Thread James Osborn


Les,

I tried the Tom Hoopes method (article referenced on Charles River RC
website) and was not satisfied with it.  The whole point of reverse
differential is to allow larger amounts of crow (ailerons acting as
spoilerons when flaps are down).  While Hoopes' method did increase the
reverse differential, it also seemed to effectively cancel the crow on
my ailerons.  What is the point in that case?

I came up with:

  Mix #2
  AILE->FPRN
  SW:  BTFY 1
  Multi-point  / \
curve like/   \
  this:  / \
/   \
   / \
  L  1  2  3  H

The mix value at L and H is some negative number like -75.  At the
mid-point (2), it is zero.  The intermediate points (1 & 3) are
inhibited.  What this does is mix in negative flaperons at the left and
right extremes of aileron travel, i.e. reverse differential.  The exact
values in the mix curve depend on how much aileron crow you have set up
in the Butterfly menu.  Works for me.

Les Grammer wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall that there was a discussion about programming the
> JR8103 for aileron reverse differential in landing (read 'crow')
> mode.  Anyone have a write-up on it?  My new 2-meter sure could make
> use of this.
> 
> -Les

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Re: [RCSE] ISR MoM 2002 - Davenport Update

2002-05-06 Thread James Osborn


I will repeat the spirit of my comments to Gavin that I sent to him
offline:

I sincerely apologize for anyone's toes I stepped on by posting my
admittedly non-technical spectator's perspective comments.  I was a
worker and I did a bunch of turn calling, mostly on the first day.  But
this is my first MoM experience and I was in no way trying to suggest
that the judging or calling was not nearly perfect, or that I knew any
better.  However, there were a few glitches in the lights over the
weekend and they do need repair or maintenance.  Similarly, I also did
not intend to suggest that the Millenium that Gavin won was equivalent
to or as good as his own Y2K planes (or the specific one he crashed).  I
was only trying to say that there was an irony there and that he did get
a brand new plane to at least partially offset his loss within one
working day!

I should have kept my big fat mouth shut in regards to the particular
impact the lights may or may not have had with regard to the standings. 
It was not my call to say anything like that, but as a spectator, I
definitely wondered what happened on that heat.  Perhaps I dug too deep
and perhaps I should have kept what I heard to myself.  The way I looked
at it was that it was all part of the race.  Sh*t clearly definitely
happens with MoM racing.  You take the bad with the good and that is
part of the excitement.  It didn't seem unfair to me so I didn't think
reporting what I saw and heard in this case was inappropriate.  But it
WAS inappropriate and I am sorry for that.

I should have made it more clear that my reports were intended for
enjoyment and not perfect accuracy.  The spirit of my reports was to
capture the excitement and enjoyment that I and many others experienced
and to try to bring that to everybody else that wasn't there.  I was
trying to be as technically accurate as I could, but like a good
reporter, I SHOULD have checked my facts more carefully.  Please enjoy
my reports for what they were and leave the technical reporting to the
CD.  If Gavin says it was BS, then it WAS BS, OKAY!!

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Re: [RCSE] ISR Race

2002-05-04 Thread James Osborn


I dumped the contents of my digital camera.  After a little massaging, the results are 
online.  The quality is not great, but it's
something.  There is a picture of the full scale aircraft I mentioned when it was 
taking off.  Not a great view, but maybe somebody can
tell what it is?  Here's the link:

  http://www-eng.lbl.gov/~osborn/isr_mom_2002

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Re: [RCSE] ISR Race

2002-05-04 Thread James Osborn


Can you say CARNAGE?  There where many solo crashes (five if I counted correctly) 
including Barry Baskin's beater Ellipse 2V, a
total loss this time.  And there were three mid-airs.  In one mid-air going opposite 
directions (down wind plane took too low of a
line), the upwind plane sliced the downwind guy's tail off.  The tail-less one hit the 
ice plant hard while the other finished the
race.  The most spectacular mid-air was between Gavin Botha and I didn't hear who the 
other pilot was.  They were mixing it up from
the beginning of the heat and came close to hitting each other a handful of times.  
Near the end of the race they both made
aggressive turns at the pilot's platform turn, got tangled together and both plowed 
into the ground at high speed - plane confetti!!

I spent most of the day at turn B where much of the excitement was.  There were also 
some spectacular near disasters.  Like Tom Copp
flying a new Acacia pulled a very hard turn B with a too far aft C.G.  After 
completing the turn, it tip stalled and augered right
into the ice plant.  Fortunately, the augering slowed it down such that there was NO 
damage.

And who can forget the single engine full sized aircraft LANDING on the airstrip?  
Remember, the "Davenport Slope Site" is actually
a working dirt airstrip called Las Trancas airport!  This plane flies over and banks 
out toward the ocean.  I'm at the turn A area
and yell "The Plane, boss, The PLANE!!"  Nobody listens to me; they figure this guy 
won't actually land and so they keep racing.
The plane comes around and turns into the wind and I look down the strip and there are 
MANY cars projecting onto the dirt strip.  I
say to myself, there is no way this guy is going to land.  So he proves me wrong and 
touches down in 500 feet less than he is used
to (he reported this fact later).  If he continued in a straight line, he would have 
collided with at least two cars.  But he
quickly exercises his rudder and disaster is averted.  The take-off was equally as 
spectacular - he was in the air and climbing at a
30 degree angle in about a 100 yards showing us his belly at full throttle as he banks 
out over the ocean.  Sorry I forget what
aircraft it was; somebody will fill that detail in for me.  This was a macho bush 
pilot clearly.  The pilot had a friend with him
and he was very jovial about the impeded runway - he just wanted to show his friend 
the airport!!

The wind was light for much of the morning.  I guesstimate it peaked at 20 knots but 
was lower than this most of the day.  23 pilots
registered, but by the days end, the number still competing was definitely lower.  7 
rounds were flown.  I expect they will fly 3 to
5 rounds max tomorrow.  All in all it was a very exciting day.  I am looking forward 
to winning the worker's raffle tomorrow so I
can take home MY new sweet yellow/purple Acacia!!

Pat McCleave wrote:

> Hey Guys,
>
> Any news yet from the ISR?  Midwesterners want to know details.
>
> See Ya,
>
> Pat McCleave
> Wichita, KS

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Re: [RCSE] LSF DS Task?

2002-04-19 Thread James Osborn


Chris,

I do not agree that DSing "is a slope flight."  While it is true that typically
you use a slope flight to start DSing, it is clearly a different mechanism of
keeping the plane aloft.  I do agree that you shouldn't be prevented from using
DS during a slope flight, but I think that the DS method of extracting energy
from crossing shear layers is just different than either slope or thermal
flying.  It is a soaring skill that is distinct from these other techniques.  If
you want to claim you are proficient at soaring, then you ought to be able to
use DS as another technique in your bag of tricks.

Regarding how to measure whether or not you are proficient in DS skills, in fact
DS does not have to be the typical elliptical circuits behind a slope like we
are used to.  It can also be done on the front face by utilizing topological
features which create shear layers that you can exploit with DS.  However it
would be much more difficult for a witness to judge whether you are really using
DS on the front side.  The standard shear layer formed from wind blowing over a
ridge is also commonly found and so would make a better specification for
general rules applied to aspirants across the country.  Within the realm of a
soaring accomplishments task, the standard circuits on the dark side would be
most appropriate to demonstrate you have acquired DS skills.

Just my NSHO and ramblings.

-- James

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
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> When the LSF was formed the separation was very general, between slope and
> thermal.  DSing is a slope flight so if you want to do 8 hours of DSing more
> power to you.  Handlaunch has aways been a thermal task, so it naturally
> falls under that category.  There has been some lee-way given for launches,
> either from a hi-start or winch.  You may recall that LSF started out with
> ROGs for all line launched tasks.
> 
> Electrics have a propeller, so don't even go there, it is a power event.
> 
> Cross Country is already there within the Goal and return tasks.  If you do
> a record attempt and set the record, I beleive it has been accepted as a
> contest win.
> 
> With the planes of today, if you cannot do the tasks, then you should do
> more practicing.  Nowadays, excpet for contests, the tasks can be completed
> so fast it is not funny.
> 
> Chris Adams
> LSF 348 Lvl 5 (#8)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF DS Task?
> 
> > In a message dated 4/19/02 12:14:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > << I mean the spirit
> >  of the program is to show proficiency in ALL aspects of soaring.  Two
> types
> > of
> >  soaring are recognized therein, thermal soaring and slope soaring.  Don't
> you
> >  think it is time to recognize the third and most exciting new type of
> > soaring,
> >  Dynamic Soaring?! >>
> >
> > James,
> > I'm not sure it was ever intended to show proficiency in ALL aspects of
> > soaring.  If so, you should also include handlaunch, electric sailplanes,
> > cross country, etc.
> >
> > JMHO,
> > Lenny Keer
> > RMSA, Colorado
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Re: [RCSE] Pull-Pull photos

2002-04-06 Thread James Osborn



I asked Tom for photos of the method he was describing.  He was kind enough to
take some photos (and did so very promptly I might add).  I threw them onto a
web page for your viewing entertainment:

  http://www-eng.lbl.gov/~osborn/Sailplane_Const_Tips/PullPull

-- James

Tom Watson wrote:
> 
> It does if you just leave a small loop of extra at the servo...enough to
> stick a small screwdriver shank into to gently pull it when the horn screw
> is loosened.  Wrap the loop around the screw once after tensioning, then
> retighten.
> 
> This works better with four-pronged servo horns, using all four holes.
> 
> Tom
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Re: [RCSE] 4 servo wing wiring

2002-04-02 Thread James Osborn


Jeff,

Yes you can tie all the +ve and -ve wires together.  This will reduce the number
of pins required to 4 per side.  For my Sierra, I used MPX connectors available
from Karlton.  I chose the 6 pin connectors and used all wires for each servo. 
Not the lightest, but more redundant.  These connectors are nice flat blade
connectors.  They are actually suitable for higher power.  Almost any connector
will do though for typical servos.

Since the wing is not plug in, but bolt on, it would be tough to make it
automatically plug together as you install the wing.  I just left the male ends
dangle from the wing root a few inches and the female ends lying in the fuse,
hooked up to the Rx with pigtails.  To put it together, you slide the wing
together with the joiner, plug the connectors together, then bolt it on,
ensuring that all your wires are in the fuse.

> Jeff F wrote:
> 
> I'm building my first full-house (Arthobby Sierra 2.5M) Can any one point me
> to some tips on consolidating the 4 connectors from the wing. Can I wire all
> the + - together and seperate the four signals from each servo? Any
> suggestions on connectors?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jeff F

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Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 Reverse Differential?

2002-03-30 Thread James Osborn


Aneil,

THANKS!!  The exchange IS great.

For curious minds with lazy fingers, here is the answer from Tom Hoopes:

With the XP-8103, first make sure that you have the ailerons moving the correct
direction and the "crow deflection" is set in the Butterfly menu. Next, you will
need to select an un-used programmable mixer that can be enabled with the Crow
switch and supports FPRN as the master and slave. PROG.Mix6 does the above.
Enter the master as FPRN and the slave can either be FPRN or AILE. Hit the
select key unitl you reach the SW: location. Flip the CROW switch to the landing
mode. Toggle through the mixer enable settings until the mixer is activated (it
will either be BTFY1 or BTFY0, depending which position you have used for
landing settings in the Butterfly menu). With the landing stick at full travel,
scroll to Rate: in the PROG.Mix6 screen. While holding the aileron stick to to
left or right full travel, hit the (+) or (-) key until the opposite aileron
drops down to neutral. Move the stick the other direction and the opposite
aileron should then drop to neutral.

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[RCSE] JR 8103 Reverse Differential?

2002-03-30 Thread James Osborn


I tried this question on the JR yahoogroup - no response:

How do you set up reverse differential with the 8103?

The specific application is is for landing mode.  When the butterfly switch is
engaged for landing mode, crow is programmed, and the flaps are fully deployed,
the ailerons are biased in an upward position.  In this case, to preserve roll
authority while the flaps are fully deployed, you would like the aileron
downward travel to be much larger than the upward travel - this is reverse
differential.

Some other radios have different differential settings for different flight
modes.  Since the 8103 doesn't support different differential values based on a
switch, presumably there is some mix one could use to accomplish this, and the
mix could be engaged by the butterfly switch.  Someone once told me that you
could use an AILE->AILE mix on the 783 to do this.  On the 8103, AILE->AILE mix
seems to either cancle aileron deflection or amplify it, but not change the
amount of differential in any way.

Does anybody know how to do this?

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Re: [RCSE] Flutter and Gap Seal Mystery

2002-03-16 Thread James Osborn


Mark,

Mark Drela wrote:
> [snip]
> One very important item I left off my list is the
> max flap thickness at the hinge line.  This has
> a big effect on the torsional stiffness.  Tom Clarkson
> is using an extremely thin wing, so that's likely
> one factor there.  Maybe Mike Fox's wing is a lot thicker.

I wasn't sure whether you're saying thinner is more likely to flutter, or
thicker is more likely to flutter?

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Re: [RCSE] Re: Flaps on Mapleleaf Encore DLG

2002-01-24 Thread James Osborn


Joe,

Thanks for the information on the Encore flaps.  It has seemed to me that one of
the advantages of the aileron style DLG is that it has much less dihedral and
therefore the centrifugal forces are better handled by the wing versus a
comparable polyhedral DLG.  How much extra dihedral did you put in there, and do
you feel that you are stressing your wing more on hard launches because of
this?  You also mentioned that you split the aileron into two equal pieces.  Do
you still feel this is the "right" proportion of flaps and ailerons?

-- James

P.S. My Encore is still on the shelf, so changing dihedral and running more
wires is not a problem for me, yet.
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Re: [RCSE] RE: DS'er

2001-11-05 Thread James Osborn


JW,

Okay, I stand corrected as far as your preferences go.  I posted to Nathan
offline conceeding that foam has its advantages.  And it does as you point out. 
However, I will quote a few other lines from my message to him:

  ...Serious DS'ers live a lifestyle that puts that thrill at a higher
  importance than the cost of the airplanes they fly...

  ...If JW stopped flying moldies altogether, than I would say he just isn't
  a serious DS'er anymore...

I guess it all depends on what "serious DS'er" means.  I see your points about
the maneuvers you are willing to try with foam, but I've seen 100+ mph outside
figure eights with moldies.  Even if the JW can go that fast, it doesn't have
the same excitement.  I think part of the adrenaline rush is the speed, but part
is also the risk factor and the SHEAR ENERGY involved.

I never meant to denigrate the use of foam in DS'ing, nor do I intend to suggest
that your current interest in foam DS'ing is not serious, in its own way.  But I
just don't put foamie DS'ing into the category of "serious DS'er."  If you are
relaxed while DS'ing, then it ain't serious DS!!

Just my opinion of course.  I was responding to Nathan's blanket statement that
started this thread "Serious DS'ers only fly disposable planes."  This just
isn't true, even if it is true for The JW.

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[RCSE] Re: 8103 Programming (was: Vision for sale)

2001-10-23 Thread James Osborn


Regarding 8103 programming, I figured something out over last weekend that I was
baffled by at the time.  This is a full house glider with dual flaps, so I
enabled that in the model select mode (hold up & down keys while turning it
on).  Then in the regular menus, I disabled all the flap trim pots.  I used the
Butteryfly menu to set my landing mode:  adjusted my flaps to go down, my
ailerons to go up, and my elevator to go down with the spoiler stick.  This all
worked great.

Then I wanted to do a launch preset - a specified amount of down flaps on the
flap mix switch.  When I engaged the flap down switch, I got 45 degrees of down
flap and for the life of me I could not figure out how to change this.  I
expected there to be a menu somewhere that would let me select the switch and
the amount of flap travel, or maybe a flap offset, which is used in other
menus.  No such setting exists!

I finally stumbled onto the answer:  use the flap travel adjust to set the
amount of down flaps for flap mix down.  (You can also set the flap up travel to
go with the flap mix switch up for preset reflex).  This didn't make sense to me
as it implies you are limiting the amount of flap travel.  But you are only
limiting it for the flap mixing switch.  The spoiler->flap mixing on the
Butterfly menu overrides this setting when you go into landing mode (Butteryfly
switch forward at 0).  Go figure.

Now, 8103 masters, suppose I want my ailerons to do the same thing as my flaps? 
In other words, I want full TE camber with my launch preset.  How do I get the
ailerons to droop the same amount as my flaps when I hit the launch preset (flap
mix down) switch?

-- James

CrashK wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Please guys, don't take this the wrong way but $300 for an old tx with an
> extra module?  I've seen ads like this and they sell pretty quick...why?
> I'm not familiar with the Vision although I've heard nothing but good stuff
> about it.  Is there really no current tx (aside from the high end models)
> with it's capabilities?  Part of the reason I ask is that I'm sorta shopping
> for a new tx as my 8103 is driving me nuts...can't figure out how to make it
> do what I want it to!  Comments/offers for programming assistance? :-)
> Thanks!
> 
> > I have an Airtronics Vision transmitter for sale.
> > This is the 8 model version with software version
> > ?.01a I cannot find the version except when it
> > boots and then only a glance.
> 
> > $300 OBO for the works-
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Re: [RCSE] Reynolds Number

2001-10-03 Thread James Osborn


I'll elaborate on this slightly:

Bill Swingle wrote:

> Reynold's number is a very important parameter in fluid dynamics. Flows at
> the same Reynolds number are similar, which make it possible to use smaller
> models (length l) for tests at higher velocities (velocity v) to achieve the
> same Reynolds number as the full scale airplane.

Reynold's number (Re) is called a non dimensional parameter.  Basically it takes
all the important dimensional parameters in a fluid dynamics situation, length,
fluid density, fluid viscosity, and fluid velocity, and combines them in such a
way so that all the units cancel out.  There are other ways of combining
important parameters to cancel out the dimensions which yield other non
dimensional parameters named after other guys that characterize other
situations.  But the Re number is by far the most often used and useful for
characterizing fluid flows.

The way that scale models can be used to obtain information about full scale
aircraft is by maintaining "dynamic similarity."  Basically this means
preserving the Re number between the scale case and the full scale case.  So for
example, if you take a 1/4 scale model and test it in the same fluid at the same
speed as the full scale version, your Re number will be 1/4 as large since the
length is 1/4 size, and other important parameters are identical (same air, same
density, same viscosity, same velocity).  Testing a 1/4 scale aircraft in the
same fluid at the same speed does not maintain dynamic similarity.  Any results
obtained will be useless in predicting the behavior of the full scale aircraft.

To maintain dynamic similarity between scale model and full scale when using the
same fluid, your velocity must be much higher to match the Re number.  For
modeling scale aircraft in a wind tunnel, this means you need a high speed wind
tunnel to match the Re.  But if you change the fluid, you change the viscosity
and density.  So for example, it is common to test scale models of aircraft in a
"tow tank" in which the fluid is water.  The scale of the model and the velocity
used are chosen so that the Re number is matched with the intended full scale
application.  The velocity used in a water tow tank test for a 1/4 scale model
is somewhat slower than the full scale velocity application which is why simple
towing works (no need for elaborate high speed recirculating water systems).

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Re: [RCSE] The Attack

2001-09-20 Thread James Osborn


Well Barrett, how'd you like THAT speech?  I agree GW was not shining in the
beginning.  Indeed, I didn't think it possible for him to come across as genuine
and intelligent at all, ever.  But even I have to admit THAT was a good speech. 
Let's hope that this is a new and permanent side of GW we are now seeing.

To keep it on topic, the explosion of DS is my favorite thing this year.

-- James

Barrett Stridiron wrote:
> 
> Grr.
> 
> GWB instilled not a bit of confidence with his national address this
> morning. I came away from that speech angry, frustrated, and embarrassed for
> our nation. He looked like Curious George the monkey, blinking his eyes,
> appearing calm and collected, conveying not a bit of the menace I'm sure
> most of the nation was hoping for. I am ashamed and sad knowing that we have
> Bush as our LEADER. Hearing Bush's words, along with all of the other
> "leaders" who are supposedly representative of our nation, and seeing the
> members of Congress struggle through a staged rendition of "America the
> Beautiful" made me feel like I'm a citizen of a second-rate power.
> 
> I think there's a big difference between appearing to be unaffected and
> looking like an idiot, and simply appearing to be unaffected, yet pissed off
> and deadly serious. Bush, with his constant eyeblinking, mispronouncement of
> simple words and linguistic stammering, made me feel embarrassed and SCARED
> for our country, and extremely angry on behalf of those who have fought for
> the "freedom" and "democracy" that Bush has promised to protect.
> 
> Let's review some facts...
> 
> W is an inexperienced leader when it comes to world affairs = TRUE
> W is probably scared, just like the rest of us = TRUE
> 
> What kind of leader issues 2 min. prepared statements and refuses to "speak"
> with the nation during this crisis? I was all for "stand behind the
> President during our time of crisis" but this guy is a wooden puppet.
> Freaking Guliani makes him look like a fool.
> 
> They won't let him take questions because all it is going to take is one
> fuxored remark to the press to permanently shake public confidence that
> Dubya is up to the job.
> 
> *I* know Dubya isn't up to the job, but Cheney, Powell and the DOD are.
> 
> All I want from Dubya is to do his speeches, read off the cue-cards and be
> reassuring.
> Then I want him to get out of the way and let the adults run the show.
> 
> It is our RIGHT to question whether Bush can handle this situation; it is
> his JOB to prove he can.
> 
> This is the end of an era - of American innocence and (hopefully)
> complacency. We've been giving (and given) plenty of lip service about what
> sort of a dangerous world it is. Well, this is about as rude of a wake-up
> call as it comes, short of a couple of backpack nukes (I guess Osama
> couldn't afford those.  Wonder if he invested in any dot-coms last year?)
> 
> What does this all mean? I think a lot of my "lefty" friends are going to be
> bugging out about the rise of an American "police state" and about how a lot
> of personal freedoms will be compromised in the wake of these events. And to
> a certain extent, this will happen, but it's an inevitable compromise.
> Adolescence is over, folks. Time to grow up.
> 
> What happened yesterday is the mild equivalent of someone walking into your
> house and torching your living room because you left your doors and windows
> unlocked. Feel violated? Oh yeah. Hopefully from now on, we'll start locking
> the doors and keep that Desert Eagle AE handy when greeting visitors.
> 
> BTW: if you haven't given blood yet, DO IT.  Type O+ is critically needed;
> your single donation can help save up to three lives.
> To find out where you can donate, call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.
> 
>  -==- Barrett
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Re: [RCSE] Seattle HLG...

2001-09-16 Thread James Osborn


Hey Joe,

Once upon a time, I found myself headed for Seattle.  I posted a question to
RCSE asking - where do I fly?  I got scant responses.  'Course, I'm not JW.  But
inquiring minds want to know where this field and club is that you mention...

-- James

Joe & Jan Wurts wrote:
> 
> Due to the unfortunate events this past week, I had a little free time in
> Seattle.  I hooked up with Phil Pearson, who graciously took me under
> his wing.  He got in touch with Adam Weston, the local Seattle HLG
> flier who is left handed, and procured me a couple of rental birds to
> play with.  We made arrangements to meet at the local field (60 acres
> site).  Dick Barker was already there when I showed up, and I got a
> chance to fly his HLGs.  I have a better appreciation for the performance
> of his planes now, they are very well suited for the light conditions that
> were prevailing in the morning air.
> 
> A little while later, Phil showed up, then Adam.  I was itching to do some
> launching myself.  This is one big disadvantage of the DLGs.  If you are
> correct handed, you can't launch the right handed versions.  Adam set up
> his toys and gave me a run through on their operation.
> 
> The thermals were beckoning, so we went to work.  It was a great way to
> set aside the tragedies that had happened for a while.  For a while, the
> air was so good that one could play "catch and release" with the thermals.
> Later, the air got more stable with the arrival of the wind off of the
> sound.
> It made for more challenges, and more satisfaction when you found
> enough air to climb out and return with some altitude.  I think that I went
> through about six charge cycles on Adams planes during the day...
> 
> One thing that was surprising to me, was how many people were at the
> field mid-week.  There were four of us with 1.5m HLGs, several with some
> of Harolds latest micro HLGs, a few electrics, a couple of guys flying from
> a high start, and even a winch was set up.  Glider heaven.  The little micro
> HLGs had surprisingly good performance, and excelled at tight manuevers.
> Also, Adam made a few flights with his foamie mini HLG, the Goblin.  It
> looks very promising.  Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to get some
> time on the sticks with it.
> 
> I had gotten directions to the field from Adam the night before.  I wasn't
> really sure that I was in the right place until I saw that there were
> streamers
> on all sides of the field in front of me, and a HLG working a thermal that
> the streamers were pointing at.  The Seattle folk have a great location
> for HLG, and I am hoping that I will be able to make it to their 2-day HLG
> event next year.
> 
> The hospitality shown to me by the Seattle folks was wonderful.  I certainly
> appreciated the chance to fly with them.
> 
> Joe
> 
> PS  I found that it is 1135 miles from downtown Seattle to the Burbank
> airport.
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Re: [RCSE] Re: what paint sticks to coroplast?

2001-08-23 Thread James Osborn


Hey,

How about Utracote, will that stick to coroplast?  I'm getting my JW kit shortly
and I would like to cover the coroplast fin.

-- James

Aerofoam wrote:
> 
> >Well, since they use it for signs, I'd call up the local sign shop and ask
> what >screen printing ink they use on the signs.
> 
> They don't print on the coroplast, they print on sign vinyl, then stick it
> on the coroplast, or they cut they letters out and stick them on.
> You can get spray paints to stick if you sand it aggresively, but nothing
> will stick well, you are better off covering it with sign vinyl.
> 
>  Mark Mech
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[RCSE] Sims and JR 8103

2001-08-22 Thread James Osborn


I would like to buy a simulator that I can drive with my JR 8103.  I have
determined that the Ikarus EasyFly will do this and it is on sale for $50 now. 
What about the Multiplex Cockpit Master?  Any other sims to check out that will
work with the JR?  Any comments on which is best or about their features?

Are any of the simulators modeling shear layers in the wind so you can try DS
with them?  If not, then what happens when you fly behind a hill, do you still
get the same prevailing wind, whatever you have set in the program?

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[RCSE] Charger Recommendations

2001-08-18 Thread James Osborn


Okay, an often visited topic.  I want to buy a "real" charging system.
I'd like:

  1) Support for NiMH and NiCad
  2) Charge Rx (4 or 5 cell), Tx (8 cell?), and motor packs (10 to 20 cell?)
  3) Maybe multiple packs simultaneously
  4) Field charging or AC input
  5) Cycling
  6) Capacity & voltage readings
  7) Reasonable ordering timeframe (no multi-month waiting lists please!)

So what should I buy?  I don't presume that there is ONE box that does all
this.  So if not, then what combination of units fits the bill?

Thanks for any suggestions.

-- James
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[RCSE] JR 8103 Wiedrness

2001-07-11 Thread James Osborn


Warning JR 8103 owners:

Yesterday I had an interesting problem with my JR 8103:  the LCD screen started
flickering and eventually doing all kinds of jumbled and chopped up
unrecognizable things.  The transmitter appeared to be working okay, despite the
garbled display, so I didn't land immediately.  Then suddenly my digital trims
got pegged.  This caused me some confusion and I stalled and crashed my plane: 
minimal plane damage, followed by a half-hour of checking internal connectors,
the battery connection, and the fuse.  Nothing seemed to make a difference.

This had happened once before about 8 months into my 1 year old radio's life. 
The problem inexplicably went away before I sent it in for servicing.  Now I
think I know what the problem is.  The neck strap loop on the front of the radio
was loose.  It seems to somehow have something to do with an electronic
connection inside the radio.  Once tightened, the problem went away.  Loosening
the loop and lightly bumping the radio reproduces the problem.  Presumably, the
last time this happened, I also tightened the loop without making the mental
connection, thereby mysteriously fixing the problem.

Check your strap loop occasionally, and if you ever see the garbled display I
described, definitely check it.

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[RCSE] Aitronics RD6000

2000-09-23 Thread James Osborn


My brother wants to purchase an Airtronics RD6000 for sailplane use
primarily.  While at the hobby store, he could discern no difference between
the sailplane version and the aircraft version other than the gear switch. 
I told him that the channel assignments were likely different and that there
might be programming features supported in one versus the other.  For
example, it sounded like camber/reflex control was not supported on the
aircraft version, but you surely would want this for sailplane use.  Also,
it wasn't clear how the throttle and gear channels would be used in a
sailplane application.

Does anybody have THE WORD on the RD6000 aircraft versus sailplane version? 
Will the aircraft version do all the sailplane version will or vice versa? 
Any help would be appreciated.  Direct replies appreciated as time is of the
essence.  Thanks.

-- James
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