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[RCSE] Paging Joe Wurts....

2006-05-19 Thread Mike Smith


Joe, please ping me offline.

I am not sure I have your current e-mail address

Thanks

Mike


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[RCSE] Larry Jolly...

2006-05-17 Thread Mike Smith


Please ping me off list

Mike


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[RCSE] New e-mail address...

2006-05-11 Thread Mike Smith


For all that might care...

My new e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hope you are all getting ready to enjoy the upcoming flying season.

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RE: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Smith

Lets not all miss the big point here.  There is something for 
everybody at the NATS.  For those who wish to compete, you will get 
great competition, and a fair contest.  For those who are there to 
fly for funman I got to tell you there is fun at every turn.  I 
don't care so much about the competition that it gets anywhere hear 
ruining the fun for me.  I am sure that goes for a majority of the 
people that attend.  The fact is the NATS is a blast.  I know I had 
one in '04.  Oh sure, I won, but it didn't matter.  Laughing at 
Bruce's jokes, partying with Jack and Karen, eating great BBQ with JB 
and everybody else who's names I have forgotten, oh and lets not 
forget the adventure of the ride with DP half way across the country 
in the Lancair.  Damn great time.


Moonsay, here I come.

Mike Smith




At 12:34 PM 5/3/2006, Harry DeBoer wrote:
90 percent of the pilots at the Nat's will never make the 
Team for the USA

much less try out for it, so why are we moving/removing class's from their
Nat's so the few may have more practice time? I agree we should have a Team
but give them the time and place to do it right and don't diminish two
events while trying to make one better!

It seams to me every year about this time someone gets a 
bug up their butt

about the way the Nat's are run and what class's should or shouldn't be
allowed? Remove the entry level class's and you can be sure of the future of
our HOBBY! As it is now it is difficult for some to compete against the
Factory sponsored pilots, or the guy who can afford to take time off from
work or family to practice, practice, practice.

Sorry TK but I had to. Toss me of this forum if you want, I'm tired of the
politics getting in the way of why we are here. These things are TOY
AIRPLANES for pete's sake! Go out and invite a kid to fly your plane, get
them involved! Two links below are things we in Michigan are doing I
challenge the rest of you to do the same!

http://www.rcsoaring.org/newsmgr/templates/wmss.asp?articleid=185zoneid=1
http://www.bsagrfc.org/documents/acamporee06.pdf

Harry De Boer
AMA 2343
LSF 6357




-Original Message-
From: Jeff Steifel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:52 PM
To: Harry DeBoer
Cc: Bill's Email; RCSE Soaring Exchange
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries


There is another issue with F3X ... in the last few cycles the world
were RIGHT on top of the Nats. This prevents some probable F3Xers from
going for the following reasons.
The Worlds are during the same week and transportation is a problem,
packing is a problem.
Risking the airplane during the same week is a too risky ... They
would rather risk it during practice at the worlds (DARYL) .
   Time off from work .

The problem is not only related to F3B, F3J suffers the same... but
usually has more TD pilots willing to jump in.
There will be more entries in F3B... This year there is the problem of
getting new frequency modules for some too. Since some channels were not
available to normal F3B'ers.

Right now the Nats is the only F3B event in the country aside from the
Team Selections... Should we just call it a day and say we won't compete
in the worlds then?
Becasue that's what will happen if the TS is the only comp The AMA
has decided that if you don't have a minimum of I think 20 contestants
then they won't support that event anymore.
Remove the Nats and we are sure to drop F3B as a team event. Then the US
will be a NO SHOW since you can't get there without recognition from the
AMA.

Harry DeBoer wrote:

F3B entries = 5
oops we didn't want to go there!

-Original Message-
From: Bill's Email [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:00 PM
To: RCSE Soaring Exchange
Subject: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries


Interesting numbers from the LSF-NATS Entry pages.

Unlimited entries = 62

RES entries = 52


2M entries = 40  (65% of UNL, 77% of RES)
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RE: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Smith

Oh I forgot to mention that if you really want to have funHave 
Daryl drive your golf cart for hand launch golfPicture launching 
the glider, leveling off at the top of launch, looking back at the 
place where your cart and driver were just 2 seconds ago and hear him 
(driver) yell, hurry up these things aren't very fast.flying, 
running and jumping into the moving golf cart with Daryl laughing at 
youhard!


Can't wait to do it again.

MS



At 01:41 PM 5/3/2006, Mike Smith wrote:
Lets not all miss the big point here.  There is something for 
everybody at the NATS.  For those who wish to compete, you will get 
great competition, and a fair contest.  For those who are there to 
fly for funman I got to tell you there is fun at every turn.  I 
don't care so much about the competition that it gets anywhere hear 
ruining the fun for me.  I am sure that goes for a majority of the 
people that attend.  The fact is the NATS is a blast.  I know I had 
one in '04.  Oh sure, I won, but it didn't matter.  Laughing at 
Bruce's jokes, partying with Jack and Karen, eating great BBQ with 
JB and everybody else who's names I have forgotten, oh and lets not 
forget the adventure of the ride with DP half way across the country 
in the Lancair.  Damn great time.


Moonsay, here I come.

Mike Smith




At 12:34 PM 5/3/2006, Harry DeBoer wrote:
90 percent of the pilots at the Nat's will never make the 
Team for the USA

much less try out for it, so why are we moving/removing class's from their
Nat's so the few may have more practice time? I agree we should have a Team
but give them the time and place to do it right and don't diminish two
events while trying to make one better!

It seams to me every year about this time someone gets a 
bug up their butt

about the way the Nat's are run and what class's should or shouldn't be
allowed? Remove the entry level class's and you can be sure of the future of
our HOBBY! As it is now it is difficult for some to compete against the
Factory sponsored pilots, or the guy who can afford to take time off from
work or family to practice, practice, practice.

Sorry TK but I had to. Toss me of this forum if you want, I'm tired of the
politics getting in the way of why we are here. These things are TOY
AIRPLANES for pete's sake! Go out and invite a kid to fly your plane, get
them involved! Two links below are things we in Michigan are doing I
challenge the rest of you to do the same!

http://www.rcsoaring.org/newsmgr/templates/wmss.asp?articleid=185zoneid=1
http://www.bsagrfc.org/documents/acamporee06.pdf

Harry De Boer
AMA 2343
LSF 6357




-Original Message-
From: Jeff Steifel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:52 PM
To: Harry DeBoer
Cc: Bill's Email; RCSE Soaring Exchange
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries


There is another issue with F3X ... in the last few cycles the world
were RIGHT on top of the Nats. This prevents some probable F3Xers from
going for the following reasons.
The Worlds are during the same week and transportation is a problem,
packing is a problem.
Risking the airplane during the same week is a too risky ... They
would rather risk it during practice at the worlds (DARYL) .
   Time off from work .

The problem is not only related to F3B, F3J suffers the same... but
usually has more TD pilots willing to jump in.
There will be more entries in F3B... This year there is the problem of
getting new frequency modules for some too. Since some channels were not
available to normal F3B'ers.

Right now the Nats is the only F3B event in the country aside from the
Team Selections... Should we just call it a day and say we won't compete
in the worlds then?
Becasue that's what will happen if the TS is the only comp The AMA
has decided that if you don't have a minimum of I think 20 contestants
then they won't support that event anymore.
Remove the Nats and we are sure to drop F3B as a team event. Then the US
will be a NO SHOW since you can't get there without recognition from the
AMA.

Harry DeBoer wrote:

F3B entries = 5
oops we didn't want to go there!

-Original Message-
From: Bill's Email [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:00 PM
To: RCSE Soaring Exchange
Subject: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries


Interesting numbers from the LSF-NATS Entry pages.

Unlimited entries = 62

RES entries = 52


2M entries = 40  (65% of UNL, 77% of RES)
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Re: [RCSE] World Championships - We Americans must be the best...

2006-05-01 Thread Mike Smith

Its not just you

L'ing OL in Carlsbad...

At 09:57 AM 5/1/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:

Is it just me? Probably is... I hear I'm quite the
pain in the ass... but why do Americans feel compelled
to call their contests, or games, or races... the
World Championships? We have the World Series, where
we crown the winners the World Champion. We have the
Superbowl... once again crowning the winners the
World Champions. Is there any other country
represented 1 other at least I think Canada is
represented by one or two teams in baseball... there's
a sports powerhouse ... ;-) JK Sorry Arend...

But... World Soaring Masters? Let's not minimize the
efforts and the accomplishments of those individuals
who qualify to attend US team selects, scratch and
claw to make the top 3, then travel around the world
representing the United States of America. They
compete against the top fliers of 20-25 other
countries, who have undergone the same type of effort
and hardships just for the opportunity to compete in a
truly World event.

This Soaring Masters is a neat idea, and will be a fun
contest I'm sure... but maybe it should be titled The
US Open of Soaring... since there's not much
qualifying required to attend...

Sorry... off my soapbox... but this has been a pet
peave of mine for quite some time... probably ever
since I attended my first World Championships... held
in Holland... against 23 (I think) other countries...

Oh... but the most important part of my email...

TK... I lost my voucher... can you forward another one
please???

Thx,

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RE: [RCSE] World Championships - We Americans must be the best...

2006-05-01 Thread Mike Smith

Dudes, sure hope you saw my tongue-in-cheek grin when I was 
responding.  DP was cracking me up, and apparently was being a pain 
in others asses just like he said


Oh no, don't get me wrong.  I know the world is invited.  If I win, I 
will be telling both of my friends that I am the best in the 
world.  Just because the whole world doesn't attend doesn't mean they 
weren't invited :-D


Did ya hear that Malvey? I will be telling you, then I will have 
to find or rent another friend... I think Daryl will be disowning me 
as a friend now ;-)


Lets go soaring world brethren, no whining, only flying aroung for 12 
minutes and spearing the turf like there is no next round...:-)  See 
you and the rest of the World in Muncie in September.


Mike



At 12:45 PM 5/1/2006, John Diniz wrote:

Jeeeze guy's

If you don't like it then don't come. It is what it is, and if you 
care to get some sponsors together and put on a large, well 
organized, fair, contest and call it what you want, then have at it.


The LSF and the World Soaring Masters board is just trying to 
stimulate RC soaring in the RC world in general. (oops, I used the 
word world twice without first checking to see if it's OK) In case 
you haven't noticed, not many people outside of RCSE care, let alone 
know, about RC Soaring. That is the goal, to build awareness outside 
of the small rc soaring community.


John Diniz

-Original Message-
From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:31 PM
To: Daryl Perkins
Cc: soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] World Championships - We Americans must be the
best...


Daryl Perkins wrote:
 Is it just me?

I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too.
Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all.
It should require some sort of qualifying.

Z


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[RCSE] test

2006-04-13 Thread Mike Smith


testing new address...


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Re: [RCSE] Guaranteed World Soaring Masters....

2006-04-12 Thread Mike Smith

'Course then there is always the money talks factor.  Yeah, I think 
there will be 150 competitors.


see you all in Moonsay.no not twice.but three 
times..Nats, F3B team selects, and Masters...Just in case I 
am not lucky enough to get the most humid and hot days in the Mid 
West, I will hit it 3 months in a row.


Hope they stock up on Ice and Water ;-)

Mike



At 03:51 PM 4/12/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:


Guys... we're barely getting over 150 open class
competitors at Visalia these days you really think
there will be significantly more than 150 guys trying
to go to... dare I say it Muncie? Or as Karen puts
it... MoonSay





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Re: [RCSE] DLG's

2006-04-10 Thread Mike Smith

Dude, I am so glad you asked this question...

K, first, as you know, light is not always the answer. Control throw
and authority are the top concern. Launch speeds reach about 350 mph
these days with launch heights getting up to about 500 ft. So, my
recommendation is to get the Airtronics high speed, high torque hele
servo about 150 inch/oz at 6 volts, and awesome hold power. Oh,
and they are digi's so better put a big ass battery in there so those
power hungry servo's don't drain the pack before time runs out in the
window. For extra authority, I put my elevator and rudder servo back
on the boom as close to the surface as I can. Less pushrod flex - we
hate pushrod flex. People have been using flat carbon blades, and
carbon rods at the wing tip for the throw peg, but frankly, they are
not strong enough. Use a tent spike cut down to about 3
inches. That way you can wrap all four fingers around that sucker
for a good solid fling.

Well that's about all I have to share my friend, I am sure that even
with this little bit of information, you will be able to get it to
out perform the rest of the field before the International Handlaunch
Glider Festival in June.

Oh, I almost forgot...If you need any tape, I have a roll that you
can borrow ;-)

At 06:22 PM 4/8/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:

Looks like it's time to get back into HL... I don't
really pay attention to models or servos, but I've got
a few models laying around, and I'm not sure what
servos guys are running these days.

They're all full house models - what servos do I put
in these things???

TIA

Re: [RCSE] Nats F3B

2006-03-22 Thread Mike Smith


Estrella - Webershock/Fischer

Erophia 2K - Crosstail - Webershock

Altus - Perlick


At 07:51 AM 3/22/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Graphite 2, carbon and Graphite 2 partial carbon, MH 32, V-Tails.

Regards, Dave Corven.
 -- Original message --
From: Michael Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 With F3B being flown at the Nats, what are some of the planes people
 will be using this year?

 Mike
 Las Vegas, NV

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[RCSE] Gavin Botha or Darryl Zaballos ....

2006-03-20 Thread Mike Smith


Please ping me offline...

Mike

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Re: [RCSE] Re: launch numbers- Pickled Pike Perfect...

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Smith

Jeez, please let the flying season start for you guys... ;-)

Peter perfect picked a pike.. How much wood would Chuck get if
he picked a pike ...LOL

Its OK fellas, spring is coming. Take a deep breath and think about
wiggling the sticks. NOT THOSE STICKSGAWD!

Later

Mike

At 07:56 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
Oh man! Chuck has a Pike now? Or would Chuck get wood if Chuck
Piked? I better get one 'cause I want wood like Chuck.

Steve Meyer
SOAR
LSF IV

At 01:39 AM 3/16/2006, rsiegel wrote:

Karl: In other words, how much wood would a wood-chuck chuck, if a
wood-chuck could chuck a Pike Perfect?

Hmm, if not enough, would the wood-chuck be chucking a Hype Perfect prone
to spin?
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Re: [RCSE] Team Selection Qualifications

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Smith

Dave, and Joe,

Thanks for getting this going again. Dave, thanks for getting a date
for us on the AMA site. I still feel that selecting a team to
represent the USA on the AMA field is the most appropriate thing to
do. I would say that about any RC aviation team selection program,
but I know that there are many other considerations that affect site choice.

Anyway, keep up the good work.

Mike

At 02:10 PM 3/14/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joe, since I last talked to you I have formed a firm opinion on why
we should continue to require the qualification portion of the F3B program.

If we were to eliminate the qualification requirement and allowed
anyone to enter the the team selection event we will have to
require the newer entrants to make up their team arrangements or
affilliations so they will show up with the legal winches,
turnarounds, monofilament, sighting devices, etc. and not put an
unfair burden on existing teams.

The existing qualification scheme actually helps to prepare the new
entrants with the event experience, the required equipment and
teaming affiliations so the actual team selection event does not get
turned into a training session instead of what it is meant to be.

If done properly, the removal of qualification process, it will
still be neccessary to require the new enrants to attend organized
F3B practices or contests in order for them to aquire the knowledge
and equipment they need to be competitive and be able to contribute
to the F3B team selection process.

I am in the process of moving ahead with the August dates so that
the dates are firmed up with AMA as soon as possible assuming that
no other bids with improved timing or location will show up. If that
happens on a timely basis then of course adjustments can always be made.

I think that we need to keep the rules we have for this cycle as is
but start thinking about the next cycle this summer and lay out any
rule changes this fall so there is more than 1 1/2 years for every
one to get familiar with the changes and allow us to continue to
provide the best team for the USA.

Regards,Dave Corven.
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[RCSE] Gluing Servos v.s. Servo Frames - DP's weakness.....

2006-03-01 Thread Mike Smith

OK, so after having flown with and against the DP man for a few
years, and paying attention to this list and his pet peeves, it has
become painfully clear that there is a soft underbelly to the D man

drum roll please...

If you show up at the next contest with a wing servo install that
convinces Daryl that he has 3.5 extra grams per servo unnecessarily
built into his wing, then he will have that nagging at him as he
shoots yet another picture perfect approach and pushes at exactly the
right time to nail the hunski..Of course all of that is
negated by the fact that there is a dollar or two riding on the score
;-) Its all about the buck.

Chuckling out loud in So Cal. Guess I had better get back to work.

Mike

At 10:02 AM 3/1/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote:

BTW, aren't you the guy
that likes to fly around with ballast in most of time
so you can get
from Thermal to Thermal faster.

Well... uh yeah... that'd be me. But I'm quite
anal about where the weight in my model is placed. I
don't like weight in the extremities of any of my
models. Ever notice how a model with heavy wingtips
seems like the fin isn't large enough?

I have to tell you guys something funny... last flight
at both Visalia 05, and the SWC 06, I flew with 1 1/2
pounds ballast on my last flights. I didn't need any
landing points... so I just wanted to minimize the
risk of NOT getting to a thermal

But I still don't build unnecessary weight into any of
my models... I can always add it...

Re: [RCSE] Olympics - off topic and SWC thanks

2006-02-15 Thread Mike Smith

Um, dude, you're worrying me.

But, I feel your pain. You'd have 4 Olympic golds by now.

But beaver stampedes? There is only one scenario where that sounds
like fun. Probably more likely to happen in the channel than on a
frozen lake ;-)

Thanks to all who put together and helped run the '06 SWC. And
special thanks to all who sang Happy Birthday to my 9 year old
daughter. She was embarrassed but she loved it.

Lost my Sharon Friday before the contest and John Luetke from HKM USA
was gracious enough to let me fly his for the contest. Sorry I
didn't place higher John, but thank you so much for allowing me to
contest your bird.

Guys, this is a great hobby, with a truly great bunch of
people. Win, lose or draw, I enjoy every aspect of it. I am getting
into aerotow now with my newly acquired DG800S (full carbon). Radio
gear is being installed now. Should have it flying in about a
month. New F3B gliders are being equipped for this year's team
selects, and a new Sharon is on its way to me so I can be ready for
the Nats and the Masters contest. I am looking forward to seeing
everyone again out in the midwest this summer. Looks like I will be
out there at least twice. So keep flying and enjoying our little
hobby/sport. Wether you build your own or fly the incredible gliders
that are being produced today, you are involved in a challenging and
rewarding hobby. Sometimes you are even treated to some low level,
high voltage fireworks..twice! :-)

Take care all.

Mike Smith

At 05:39 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

Ok... I've been watching a lot of the Olympics
lately... I think I'm gonna take up curling. Are there
like curling alleys? Do they serve beer there? Is
there a curling exchange somewhere where they talk
about the various rocks? Maybe the rocks have
different cambers, thicknesses and weights?

sorry... maybe we'll make the Olympics someday...

Go USA!

;-)

Re: [RCSE] Results of Southwest Soaring Correction to what they flew.

2006-02-15 Thread Mike Smith

8th place - Corona, and Seagrams VO and soda (with a twist, and a 
cigar of coure)


Mike



At 12:42 PM 2/15/2006, AJ Bhatta wrote:

Did you also find out what beer the top 10 pilots were
drinking?
AJ

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 Turns out D flew the new Spirit Elite 100I know
 that sounds  insane, but
 I picked it off a cell phone recording my friend at
 Homeland Security sent
 to me.  Course it was a little hard to hear
 clearly.

 You can get them from Tower HobbiesHorizon
 really missed the boat on
 this one :-)

 It uses a unique construction technique in its
 wings, a lateral and
 longitudinal design that is seldom seen today, cept
 maybe at Skybench  functions.

 I hear that inventory is low on this ship so you
 might want to get your
 credit card down now.
 This is definitely a wait and wail situation.

 Gordy
 A break from the beach...possibly got too much  sun


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Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR Radio

2005-12-29 Thread Mike Smith

Wow, John, now your talking.  I love it.  Nice idea, good time of 
year, perfect place


How are you going to take entries?  Any qualification process, or 
first entered first served LSF registered pilots?


Mike Smith





At 12:00 PM 12/29/2005, you wrote:
Well folks, time to block out your vacation days for Sept 21-24, 
2006. I'm pleased to announce the 1st annual LSF Soaring Masters to 
be held at the AMA site in Muncie, In. Please see the press release 
below. There will be a website up in the coming weeks that will have 
more info on registration and sponsorship opportunities. Cash 
payouts for the top five finishers and trophies through tenth as 
well as many product give-away opportunities for the rest of the field.


Stay tuned to RCSE for more updates
Thanks,
John

Press Release
US Soaring Masters.
The goal for this event is to help stimulate the competition soaring 
segment into higher levels of awareness within the modeling 
community. Soaring has endured many years with no real push to grow 
the segment. With a prestigious international event, that will draw 
out the best pilots from not only the US but the world, could only 
help grow the great sport of competition soaring. IMAC has seen much 
growth, which is no doubt partly due to prestigious events like TOC, 
and the Don Lowe Masters. Scale has also seen great growth with 
events like Top Gun and the US Scale masters. The Electric segment 
has seen growth with events like Neat and SEFF. Giant scale has seen 
growth with events like Joe Nall, Dogs and the IMAA rally's.
Soaring needs it's own high profile event. An event that will be the 
one to win, an event that brings the soaring segment in front of the 
average modeler, an event that gets people excited about soaring. 
This event is not a fly in, it is a pure competition, with rules 
designed to choose the best thermal pilot in the world. This event 
will aspire many to get involved in soaring and aspire them to 
higher levels of soaring skills.

Dates:
September 21 - 24 2006. The competition days are Friday, Saturday 
and Sunday 8 - 5. Thursday is setup day.

Location:
AMA Headquarters, Muncie IN. This site will be ideal due to the 
ability for 360deg winch setup.

LSF Involvement
LSF has agreed to support this event is in the form of manpower and 
equipment. The LSF has agreed to run this event through utilization 
of their staff and equipment. Additional Horizon staff will also be 
available to help.

Entries:

All attending pilots must be a registered member of the LSF.
Entries will be capped to 150 due to available manpower and long 
duration flight times.
10 Additional non-LSF positions will be held and recommended for 
entry by the event organization staff. Entry Fees will be $75.


Competition rules:

1.  Normalized Man on Man event. Each round will be 
normalized to 1000 pts. This normalization also includes landing 
points (ala FAI events). A perfect score will be a 12-minute 
flight, and a 100-point landing.


2.  Any model can be flown, provided it is a sailplane 
and meets the AMA weight limit and total surface area restrictions.


3.  2 models per pilot will be allowed and can be 
alternated at any time throughout the event. If a 3rd model is 
required, that can be registered on a as needed basis.


4.  No skegs or landing devices will be permitted.

5.  Every round flown will be a 12 minute duration.

6.  Each pilot will be allowed 2 line breaks for the 
entire event. No line break re-flights will be allowed after the 
pilot has used up his 2 launches.


7.  Flight time starts when the model is released from 
the winch line.


8.  No model can be launched until the start of working 
time. (Zero flight score will result).


9.  If model lands outside the designated landing zone, 
no flight score will result.


10. Landing tapes will be standard FAI tapes. The last 
2 meters will be divided into 10cm spacing with additional 1-point 
increments up to the maximum landing score of 100.
11. All winches will be supplied by the LSF and will be 
of equal performance.


12. Ten to twelve (10 - 12, weather permitting) 
qualifying rounds will be flown, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The 
top ten from qualifying rounds will advance to the final Fly-off rounds.


13. Each finalist will carry his total score over to 
the finals as a normalization of the qualifying rounds. If a pilot 
has the leading amount of points after flying the qualifying 
rounds, he will carry a score of 1000pts place going to the finals. 
Each pilot in the top 10 will then be normalized based on the 
winning total score from the qualifying rounds. 3 additional finals 
rounds will be flown and the accumulation of the normalized 
qualifying score along with the additional finals scores will be 
added up to determine the winner.


14. 1st through

Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR Radio

2005-12-29 Thread Mike Smith

Oh I am sure that DP and I won't be the only ones representin' 
Airtronics.  Bring it you JR dudes, and dudettes  :-)


Mike




At 12:00 PM 12/29/2005, John Diniz wrote:
Well folks, time to block out your vacation days for Sept 21-24, 
2006. I'm pleased to announce the 1st annual LSF Soaring Masters to 
be held at the AMA site in Muncie, In. Please see the press release 
below. There will be a website up in the coming weeks that will have 
more info on registration and sponsorship opportunities. Cash 
payouts for the top five finishers and trophies through tenth as 
well as many product give-away opportunities for the rest of the field.


Stay tuned to RCSE for more updates
Thanks,
John

Press Release
US Soaring Masters.
The goal for this event is to help stimulate the competition soaring 
segment into higher levels of awareness within the modeling 
community. Soaring has endured many years with no real push to grow 
the segment. With a prestigious international event, that will draw 
out the best pilots from not only the US but the world, could only 
help grow the great sport of competition soaring. IMAC has seen much 
growth, which is no doubt partly due to prestigious events like TOC, 
and the Don Lowe Masters. Scale has also seen great growth with 
events like Top Gun and the US Scale masters. The Electric segment 
has seen growth with events like Neat and SEFF. Giant scale has seen 
growth with events like Joe Nall, Dogs and the IMAA rally's.
Soaring needs it's own high profile event. An event that will be the 
one to win, an event that brings the soaring segment in front of the 
average modeler, an event that gets people excited about soaring. 
This event is not a fly in, it is a pure competition, with rules 
designed to choose the best thermal pilot in the world. This event 
will aspire many to get involved in soaring and aspire them to 
higher levels of soaring skills.

Dates:
September 21 - 24 2006. The competition days are Friday, Saturday 
and Sunday 8 - 5. Thursday is setup day.

Location:
AMA Headquarters, Muncie IN. This site will be ideal due to the 
ability for 360deg winch setup.

LSF Involvement
LSF has agreed to support this event is in the form of manpower and 
equipment. The LSF has agreed to run this event through utilization 
of their staff and equipment. Additional Horizon staff will also be 
available to help.

Entries:

All attending pilots must be a registered member of the LSF.
Entries will be capped to 150 due to available manpower and long 
duration flight times.
10 Additional non-LSF positions will be held and recommended for 
entry by the event organization staff. Entry Fees will be $75.


Competition rules:

1.  Normalized Man on Man event. Each round will be 
normalized to 1000 pts. This normalization also includes landing 
points (ala FAI events). A perfect score will be a 12-minute 
flight, and a 100-point landing.


2.  Any model can be flown, provided it is a sailplane 
and meets the AMA weight limit and total surface area restrictions.


3.  2 models per pilot will be allowed and can be 
alternated at any time throughout the event. If a 3rd model is 
required, that can be registered on a as needed basis.


4.  No skegs or landing devices will be permitted.

5.  Every round flown will be a 12 minute duration.

6.  Each pilot will be allowed 2 line breaks for the 
entire event. No line break re-flights will be allowed after the 
pilot has used up his 2 launches.


7.  Flight time starts when the model is released from 
the winch line.


8.  No model can be launched until the start of working 
time. (Zero flight score will result).


9.  If model lands outside the designated landing zone, 
no flight score will result.


10. Landing tapes will be standard FAI tapes. The last 
2 meters will be divided into 10cm spacing with additional 1-point 
increments up to the maximum landing score of 100.
11. All winches will be supplied by the LSF and will be 
of equal performance.


12. Ten to twelve (10 - 12, weather permitting) 
qualifying rounds will be flown, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The 
top ten from qualifying rounds will advance to the final Fly-off rounds.


13. Each finalist will carry his total score over to 
the finals as a normalization of the qualifying rounds. If a pilot 
has the leading amount of points after flying the qualifying 
rounds, he will carry a score of 1000pts place going to the finals. 
Each pilot in the top 10 will then be normalized based on the 
winning total score from the qualifying rounds. 3 additional finals 
rounds will be flown and the accumulation of the normalized 
qualifying score along with the additional finals scores will be 
added up to determine the winner.


14. 1st through to 5th place will receive cash prizes, 
and trophies will be awarded to the top 10

Re: [RCSE] Towing help for the F3J Team at SWC

2005-12-28 Thread Mike Smith



What about winches? Still willing to set up a couple of winches for
some of us who don't wish to do the whole hand tow thing. Same
rules otherwise ;-)
Mike Smith


At 01:54 PM 12/28/2005, Jim Monaco wrote:
The US F3J team
will be having a team practice on Thursday Feb 9 prior to the SWC.
We are looking for some help for towing for the team from locals or
others that might be in the area on Thursday. If you or anyone you
know are interested please contact me to make arrangements. No
experience necessary.

Thanks  Jim Monaco
US F3J Team Manager

Re: [RCSE] F3J US Team and Open Practice Signups

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Smith



Excelent! I wanna play.
Mike Smith


At 02:44 PM 12/6/2005, Jim Monaco wrote:
I am pleased to
announce that the US F3J Team will be holding an open practice with all
those interested in F3J  experienced or not - invited to attend.

The event will be held February 9, 2006, the Thursday prior to the SWC at
the SWC flying location. See the CASL site for details on the SWC
and the flying location.

http://www.public.asu.edu/~vansanfo/casl/swc.html

TASKS and LANDINGS:
F3J Team Selection Rules, except we will have winch launching options

SITE:
Phoenix Southwest Classic Phoenix, AZ 
on the competition field
AMA:
2006 AMA cards will be required at registration. 
ENTRY FEE:
$10 (donation to US F3J team)
AWARDS:
Bragging rights and certificates - this is a low budget
operation!
C.D. and Organizer:
Jim Monaco (JimMonaco.net) 


All participants are welcome, experienced or not. The purpose of this
event is to provide competition like experience for the US team in
preparation for the World Championships in July 2006. 
It is also intended as a demonstration event to interest those that have
never participated in an F3J event and also as a team fund raiser. 
The entry fee will be a donation to the team to be collected at the
event. 
Those wishing to participate as a real hand-tow F3J team must arrange for
their own towers for the event. We will be allowing 4 person teams so
each team is capable of towing for themselves. If you desire to arrange
your own team, you may do so and please indicate your team members on
your entry form. If you wish to use hand-tow and are capable of assisting
by towing and do not have a team of your own choosing, then the organizer
will group like-minded individuals together. If you have hand-tow
equipment you should bring it - if not, we will TRY to arrange for at
least one member of the team to have equipment. 
Those not capable or desiring to hand tow will be grouped randomly
together in teams of 4 by the organizer and these groups will be assigned
a normal US club winch to use for the competition. These winches will
have braided nylon line. One team member should be downline to retrieve
the line in the event of a pop-off or relaunch. Whining about the power
of the winches or the stretch of the line or low launches will result in
immediate laughter by the CD.

You must sign up in advance to allow the creation of the flight
matrixes. You can sign up at
http://www.rmsadenver.com.
No payment is necessary at this time  payments will be collected at the
event.

This is your opportunity to participate in an F3J-like event and see how
fun the F3J rules can be J

Jim Monaco
Official US F3J Team Manager 2006

[RCSE] Re: [USA_FAI_Soaring] Challenge the US F3J Team at the SWC!!!

2005-11-17 Thread Mike Smith



I will fly against 'em off of winches.
Mike Smith

At 04:27 PM 11/16/2005, Jim Monaco wrote:
As acting team
manager for the US F3J team I am working on novel ideas for providing
challenging practice sessions for the team. One idea I am kicking
around is to sponsor an informal F3J competition on the Thursday prior to
the SWC. While Friday would be logistically better we would
severely interfere with frequencies and real estate for those coming in
to practice just for the SWC on Friday. Monday is out since the field is
not rented for that day and there are no known venues in the Phoenix area
that we could use.

I am considering bringing a couple of club winches to the event and while
the US Team will be practicing real F3J launches, we could also have
pilots launching off the winches at the same time. We could argue
til the cows come home whether the winches are better or worse and give
someone an advantage/disadvantage but FOCUS!!! This is an informal fun
event  it just does not matter. If you have F3J equipment, bring
it and find some towers and have at it. Well even supply F3J
equipment to a few groups if you can get towers and want to give F3J a
try. If you dont have equipment but want to give F3J a try, you
can use the winches. Ill take the responsibility of grouping
pilots into teams, remember there is no team score, teams are just
arrangements for working together (calling, towing, etc). Ill be
bringing the sound system we used at the Team Selections, so well have
the real thing.

I need to gauge if this is realistic and if there are enough interested
pilots to participate. If you think you would like to participate
on Thursday, please send me an email and indicate if you want to use the
winches or hand tow and if hand tow, whether you need equipment.

Prizes (if any) are to be determined  remember this is a low budget
operation J

Thanks - Jim

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Re: [RCSE] Re: Some thoughts on AMA-it's about LAND

2005-11-02 Thread Mike Smith

So here is a question sure to draw some comments...

Why not set up a program (details of which will be exhaustively long)
that sets out to secure properties for RC flight operations? Buy, or
lease long term, land in various regions to provide permanent
securable flying sites. Members could pay into the program based on
the field location, and price. The plusses here are way too many to
enumerate, but the negatives...yeah I knowthis is just a little
hobby, and there won't be any support for land acquisitions. Seems
to me though that the right person with the right mind set could put
together a program that would provide flying sites and security for
the future of our little hobby that I like to refer to as a
sport. Frankly, I think if we treat it more like a sport, we might
get more support, and be taken more seriously...

There you go...

How's that for 2 cents.

Mike (maybe a bit naive) Smith

At 12:55 PM 11/2/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

While the Internet has changed a lot of things about clubs and getting
together and etc. it can't give you land to fly on. For the next
decade, this is
the largest challenge our hobby faces. Even park flyers will feel
the Pinch as

more and more people cram onto smaller and smaller park spaces for more and
more of the day's flyable hours. Already I have to forget trying to
fly at most

of the flyable park land in my area because team sports are using it
continually for one sport or the other, and the darn games overlap
each other. Yes,

you can fly in a driveway or cul-de-sac, the planes getting smaller and
smaller... but that's not the only kind of flying I want to
do. And as glider folk,

I don't think most of you do either.

Access is the real problem looming, with land prices going ever-upward, and
developers grabbing up farm land everywhere you look, and a more litigious
and over-careful society that more and more, looks at our hobby as either an
annoyance or national security threat... How much flying will you
be able to get

in when you will have to drive an hour each way to the field or slope? It's
going to happen, just a question of time.

This to my mind is the number one goal AMA should have now: getting, and
keeping flying sites with a long-term view. And that's a worthy
goal no matter

WHAT you fly.

Re: [RCSE] Some Thoughts on AMA

2005-11-01 Thread Mike Smith


Very well written and I agree with, well, everything you said.

This is, IMHO, very good constructive criticism.

-Mike Smith






At 12:18 PM 11/1/2005, Tim Bennett wrote:

All the comments I have read on this exchange over the last two days bring
to mind some ideas that have been boiling in my mind for a couple of years
regarding the Academy of Model Aeronautics and how it is organized.

First, a little background  regarding me.  I have been a model airplane
hobbyist for forty-eight years. My father and his brother were modelers
before me. Like many others in the RC soaring branch of the hobby, I have
built and flown FF, CL, RC gas, and electric models over the years, but
have been pretty much exclusive to RC soaring for the last fifteen years.  I
fly with the Soaring League of North Texas (SLNT) in the Dallas/ Ft Worth
area and am an AMA contest director.  I think you could say I am an active
contest flyer.

 Holding thirty-one club contests a year, SLNT may be the most active
competition club in the country. There are thirteen unlimited sailplane
contests including two separate contest days of the Texas National
Tournament (TNT) each year. We will complete a total of fifteen
handlaunch/DLG contests this year. There were also three RES events
including one at TNT. I have flown in all but about three of these events
over the past five or six years and have been CD of all the handlaunch
events for the last six years. Attendance at these competitions has ranged
from about eight to forty-five entrants with the average being between
fifteen and twenty per event.  Except for this year, SLNT has obtained AMA
sanctions for about fourteen of these contests each year for at least as
many years as I have been involved.

My issue with the organization of AMA is that AMA is governed by an
executive council made up of elected regional vice presidents.  These
officers are elected by AMA members within a geographic area regardless of
their interest in the various disciplines of the hobby.  For the most part
geographical areas are irrelevent to the issues affecting AMA. It is clear
to me that this system is doing a poor job of representing and dealing with
the needs of a large portion of the hobby, including soaring.  Model
aviation has evolved into a diverse set of disciplines with many AMA members
specializing in just one or a small subset of these disciplines.  There do
not seem to be many pylon racers who fly sailplanes, helicopters, indoor
free flight, and control line carrier as well. How effectively are they
represented by their regional vice president?

I believe that this system should be replaced by a realignment of the
governing board along the lines of special interest groups representing the
modeling disciplines.   Each special interest group should function as a
separate division of the organization with its own funding and staff.  The
executive council should be made up of the heads of these groups with some
form of proportional representation based on the number of members in each
group. Members having interests in multiple special interest groups should
be given the opportunity to join multiple groups paying dues reflecting
these multiple interests.

The current organization of AMA is a legacy of the state of the sport in the
1930's and 1940's when the academy was formed.  Just making a model fly was
a major achievement in those days. With rare exceptions, free flight was the
only choice.  Competition was primarily segmented along the lines of the age
of the flyer and how the free flight models were powered. Junior, Senior,
and Open flyers flew glider, rubber, or gas free flight models in AMA
events.  The interests of modelers in Virginia were different from those in
California and representation was needed primarily to address those regional
interests.

Today, age group competition is almost non-existent.  Flyers travel the
whole country to fly in AMA events within their special interests.  There
are at least eight different segments of RC soaring each having their own
needs regarding safety, insurance, flying sites, air space, competition
regulation, radio frequency control, and launch equipment issues. These
segments include electric, flat land thermal, slope, dynamic, hand launch,
aero-tow, F3J, and F3B. AMA's regional vice presidents, for the most part,
have no awareness let alone informed positions regarding any of these
segments or their specialized issues and yet they govern our sport.

The AMA contest sanction packages I have received recently have each had
several pages of information and a waiver form regarding the use of jet
turbine engines in my sailplane contests. AMA says we should not fly gliders
higher than 400 feet AGL, but those same packages also included forms for
measuring and filing for altitude records for models flying up to several
thousand feet high. The safety column in Model Aviation has a lot of
information about people cutting their fingers on propellers, but nothing

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Mike Smith


Martin,

You are way out of line here.  I know you don't represent the 
sentiment and perception of the vast majority of the folks on this 
list.   It seems you aren't even a pilot since you didn't talk about 
the airspace regs and minimum elevation above ground in congested 
areas.  Noisy polluting things you say.  Give me a break.  By the way 
when was the last time an airport was built next to an existing 
community?  Usually, if not every time it is the development of 
property around existing airports and runways that expose the 
populous to the noise and pollution.  They move close to an airport 
and then complain.  If I had my way I would live in an airport 
community, music to my ears, and fun to watch, and great people to be 
associated with.


As for Daryl overreactingI am probably the one guy on this list 
who has the most time in the right seat with Daryl as Pilot in 
Command.  Let me tell you this.  I am a very critical flyer.  I have 
been around general aviation for my entire life.  My father was a 
pilot in Alaska, and we always had a small plane.  My uncles, and 
cousins are currently flying both on the private side and the 
commercial side in Alaska and my uncle owns a charter service called 
Kenai Aviation.  With all of this experience behind me I say that I 
feel as comfortable with Daryl as I do with my family in a small 
plane.  Daryl knows this since I have told him the same thing.  Daryl 
did not in my opinion OVER react.  He did react, and I am glad he 
did.  It is our responsibility as Larry Jolly mentions, to preserve 
our right to fly model airplanes, and Daryl brought the issue 
directly to the correct forum.


So, if you were just sitting back just throwing out fodder for the 
list to read and respond to, congratulations you hit the nerve.  Not 
a real difficult one to identify though.


Please fly safe and be a responsible RC pilot.  A nonchalant attitude 
like yours could be very detrimental to our little hobby.


Sincerely,

Mike Smith



At 08:56 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote:
And who the bleep are YOU, mystery model flyer, to expose other 
people to risk against their will and knowledge? (MSul1048321)


While I can't condone anyone flying near full sized planes I think 
you're overreacting. There are such things are birds up there, lots 
of them, and they're going to do a lot more damage to a plane than a 
foam wing (which, due to its design, is not going to do much damange 
to anything that it hits). A bird will damage a plane but you don't 
see many reports on the NTSB database of accidents resulting from a 
bird strike. I don't think theres a single report of an accident or 
incident caused by a model (ecept for some moron versus a blimp a 
few years ago, but that was deliberate).


I've never been in a position to put this to the test -- and I 
really don't want to ever get into this position -- but I think that 
if a model got close to an airplane then the wash -- the air 
displaced by the plane -- would push it to one side so the collision 
would be at worst glancing. It a propellor hit it then there would 
be no model -- propellors are quite tough things -- and I suspect 
that a small model going into a large jet engine would disappear 
without trace (they test for this sort of thing -- you can't have a 
plane exploding and falling out of the sky because an engine 
ingested some debris). So like the rabbit crossing the road, the 
biggest danger the GA pilot would have would be trying to swerve 
around the model and losing it.but then you're really not 
supposed to try doing that in a plane.


While we're in rant mode I should remark that some GA pilots tend to 
bend the rules -- they fly too close to the ground in built-up 
areas, nice view but they're getting in the way of our models (not 
to mention that their planes are noisy, dirty, polluting things -- 
old school unsilenced engines with no emissions control and leaded 
fuel --gross, like ancient lawnmowers they creak across the sky 
making a darned nuisance of themselves). Yes, I know they cost you a 
lot of money to buy and fly and they do appear to be inherently 
dangerous but if you can't get into an out of airfields without 
bothering the neighbors then maybe its time to drive (after all, 
most accidents seem to be caused by pilots trying to fly slightly 
beyond their skill levels -- in this case it seems that the skill 
level needed for this approach was right on the edge for this pilot 
if he's going to get fazed by a chunk of packing foam. You can't be 
too careful with aircraft -- sometimes its more fun to sit on the 
ground and fly the thing by proxy. (Cheaper, too)


Martin Usher
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Re: [RCSE] RC and airports

2005-10-10 Thread Mike Smith




Sorry for the rant... when did I turn into my
grumpy
grandfather???
Exactly at the same time some idiot decided to put his
foamy in your airspace. I'd be pissed too. Problem is,
usually those folks are so disconnected with the modeling community they
don't even know these forums exist, much less subscribe to 'em.
By the way, for all those interested, Deer Valley is on the north end of
Phoenix, near Scottsdale.


At 06:39 PM 10/9/2005, Daryl Perkins wrote:
Has anyone ever flown into Deer
Valley? The base leg
is over or behind a small hill. This hill could be
perfect for slope soaring... if any idiot is dumb
enough to soar that close to an airport
OK... so I'm turning base to final in my 421. Had to
cut it a little short as there was another twin
outside me for 25 Left. That put me right on top of
the hill. The wind was howling, almost 20 kts straight
cross. Nice day for slopin' The unmistakeable
outline of a flying wing foam POS flashes in front of
me. Maybe 50 ft. below me, and 30 yards in front of
me he was pushing hard, I believe in an effort to
get out of my way. 
Do you people have any [EMAIL PROTECTED] idea how much damage
a foam wing can do to my aircraft? No... it's not just
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these full scale crafts guys! I've often complained
about these foam things trying to take out my glass
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too???
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Re: [RCSE] Visalia 05

2005-10-04 Thread Mike Smith






It was nice to see the Triad resurrected. That is a
neat concept, and a prestigious title. Now that we
know it is up and running again, it would be nice to
see more of you go after it next year. You're not
going to win it, but it would be nice to see ya go
after it... ;-)



Heh, heh, ya gotta love a guy with a good sense of humor.  At least 
you know he will have a smile on his face when you accept next years 
triad trophy instead of him.  'Course you gotta be a little 
apprehensive when  he grins and says Hey, you are flying really 
good cuz that is the ol' pat on the back mind game he likes to play, 
but hey that is the fun of it right?



Thanks again CVRC for a great event.  See you next year.

Mike


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Re: [RCSE] T/D flying for $$$$$

2005-09-15 Thread Mike Smith



Hey what about us left coasters? Guess we will have to either spend
the entry money on tickets to come out there, or set up our own fly for
dough format contest.
BTW does DP know about this yet. Bet he'd play.
Mike


At 01:05 PM 9/15/2005, D Hauch wrote:
Yeah, I'm
getting better response from this then i thought i would.

Jack, I would love to team up with you, think we
could get any of 
those punks from Chicago to come over to our sod farm ?

We could give them plenty notice so they can mow a
few more 
lawns this year to scrape up the dough.

dh :-)




Dave,

I have tried that a couple of times,

Got my P-P verbally wacked, by club members, friends and moralists,
hourse people and alike...



I think it would be fun at least once..

J

-Jack Strother 

Granger, IN 

-- Original message -- 

 Hi all, 

 Anyone interested in doing some contest for some bucks, I'm
talking 

 about a $50. to $200. entry fee with all of it paid back. 

 

 They do it in a ton of amateur sports, from golf , bowling, bass
fishing, 

 ect. 

 

 Any reason why not in T/D flying ? 

 

 Anyone interested in the Midwest anyway ? 

 

 I would throw some bigger bucks into a hat if anyone would want
to come 

 compete at my field. 

 Or we could do some team thing at any field. 

 

 I don't need no trophies, I need groceries and servo money! :-)


 

 Just thought I would throw the idea out there. 

 

 Dave Hauch 



www.git-r-built.com 

 

 

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Re: [RCSE] T/D flying for $$$$$

2005-09-15 Thread Mike Smith


See, Daryl is so excited he hit send before he even typed anything  ;^)

M


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Re: [RCSE] T/D flying for $$$$$

2005-09-15 Thread Mike Smith


Lets see, 7 rounds, 7 bucksyep, the singles are in my pocket.

Should buy some good laughs.

M




At 12:12 PM 9/15/2005, Daryl Perkins wrote:

Let me know where and when guys. And thanks for
putting this together... I can use the money... ;-)

Mike, as you know - it's all about the buck... better
bring some to Visalia.

D




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[RCSE] DP is on his way to Muncie.....

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Smith


Hello all,

Just got off the phone with Daryl.  He is in Kansas somewhere resting, and 
re-fueling the Lancair for the remaining 3 hour flight into Muncie.


Man am I having withdrawals.  The trip out there with DP, and the new 
friends I made last year really left a lasting impression.  Wish I was 
coming out this year.


Sorry to have to miss it.

The F3B team is departing LA Tuesday at 7:00am for Lapeenranta, 
Finland.  On behalf of the entire team, I would like to extend a hardy 
thank you to all of you for your support of our efforts to bring world 
champ status back to the US.  I am getting excited now.  The Worlds, 
WOW.  I am looking forward to seeing friends that I met as helper on the 
2003 team in Germany.  So although I won't get my reunion with my NATS 
buddies, I do have a little reuniting in my future.


Have fun. Enjoy the NATS experience.  See you next year.

Mike Smith

PS.  Since I won't be there, that Daryl guy might have a chance at winning 
unlimited   ;^)


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Re: [RCSE] Triad link for Mike Smith

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Smith


Un yeah, I think he caught the scores.

Hey DP..

Catch THIS!

hate you

Mike




At 06:47 PM 7/12/2005, Daryl Perkins wrote:

Does anyone have that Triad link? Not sure Mike S
caught the scores ;-)

TIA

D

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Re: [RCSE] Triad link for Mike Smith

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Smith


by the way...

L'ing out loud here.

Good one.

M



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Does anyone have that Triad link? Not sure Mike S
caught the scores ;-)

TIA

D

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Re: [RCSE] Re: US F3B Soaring Team / Nats

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Smith


Thank you Jojo.

We are all looking forward to getting there and getting the gliders up in 
the Finnish air.


We appreciate your well wishes.  Good luck goes out to the Norwegian team also.

Have fun in Muncie.  Last year was my first Nats experience.  I am going to 
really miss the experience this year, but next year I'll be back for more 
fun and flying.


Enjoy the field, the flying, and the people.  It doesn't get any better.

Mike Smith




At 10:50 AM 7/13/2005, Jo Grini wrote:
Good luck to the US team. Pitty I cant beat that Joe guy at Nats... I will 
have to settle for Gordy then ;- All you others might beat me of you 
want but Gordy are mine... Oh I forgot: The beating of Gordy is about 
eating ribs!
I have made a deal with the Norwegian Team manager (Egil Roland) and he 
will update the Norwegian site from the WC F3B in Finland.

So check out www.F3X.no or directly http://www.f3x.no/f3b/2005/ during the WC.
Hopefully they will manage daily updates ;-) Egil is a guy with lots of 
experience in web and photos so I have faith in him ;-)


I will be updating the same site for Nats www.f3x.no or direct link 
http://www.f3x.no/nats

Not much there yet. Flight leaves on 19th...

Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
www.grini.no




Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:33:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: US F3B Soaring Team
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Guys (and gals),

Our US team leaves for Finland in about 1 1/2 weeks to
represent all of us at the 2005 F3B World
Championships. The team consists of Mike Smith, Gordon
Jennings, and some guy named Joe somethin' or other,
with Phil Renaud as TM. Mike and Gordon are flying
better than ever - I know Mike has flown a few 14's at
practice - and that Joe guy, well what can I say?
He's always at the top of his game.

I've never seen a US team where I thought each pilot
had a true shot at individual victory. I think they
are one of the strongest teams yet.

Join me in wishing them the best of luck and skill as
they go up against the best F3B pilots in the world.
We'll miss you guys in Muncie, but we'll be following
the scores from here

Check out the website and get yourselves some last
minute crap... uh shirts and stuff. ;-)

http://www.silentflight.org/F3B/F3B2005.html

Thanks for putting in the work guys! Go get 'em!

D



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[RCSE] F3B team practice at Visalia this weekend....

2005-07-06 Thread Mike Smith


Hello all.

It was requested of me recently to try and alert interested parties of the 
next F3B team practices.


Here you go.

This weekend, CVRC has graciously allowed the US F3B team to use there 
field for practice.  We are inviting anyone interested to come out and 
watch, help, or even fly.  We will need pilots to race against in distance, 
so there will be an opportunity to for some non-team members to fly the course.


I will have some more t-shirts for sale there as well, but only XL's and 
XXL's are left.


So come on out and check out the spectacle of F3B.  It is fun to watch!

See you there.

Gordon, Joe, and Mike

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Re: [RCSE] NATS BBQ

2005-06-27 Thread Mike Smith



This brings back some fond memories. Well except for the Jalepeno's
stuffed with shrimp and wrapped in bacon. Was I too late last
year? Where were those? ;^) 
Everything was fantastic, and I am sure that this years Q will be even
better.
Looking forward to NATS BBQ
2006.
Mike Smith



At 04:29 PM 6/27/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
This is an AWESOME BBQ, one of
the best events during the week. Not to be missed if you are there
(F3J teams should feed their towers here) And Chef TowJoe is da
best! 
P.S. Maybe someone at the AMA could make sure there is about a cord of
firewood for the campers. 8-)

At 06:16 PM 6/27/2005, JDIRRS wrote:
Friday
the 22nd will be an informal Fajitas and Margaritas, Sat after day one of
F3J will be the main event. Both hosted at the campgrounds.
Sat will feature ribs and pull pork,
japapenos stuffed with shrimp wrapped in bacon,corn on the cob, beans and
a bone in rib eye for TK.
The BBQ is in its third or fourth year now and
is growing in size and participation, As such I am asking for a 5.00
donation.( all you can eat)
Any profit (doubtful) will be donated back to
the LSF
If you would like to help out with an
additional dish. paper plates ,ice, charcoal etc. contact me
off-line.
Looking forward to another Big @$$ Bacus Bond
fire and seeing all once again

tow Jo
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR 
AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring
blog at
www.jimbacus.net

Re: [RCSE] Air Perkins to Muncie

2005-06-20 Thread Mike Smith


Come on guys...

I can say first hand that the flight half way across the country in a light 
plane is not one that should be missed.  Oh and landing at Reese field 
right nest to if not on the AMA flying site is the best part.


The in-flight service isn't the greatest though ;^)  Kidding.

Wish I could go again.

Mike




At 08:55 AM 6/19/2005, Daryl Perkins wrote:

Still looking for two souls to join me on a trek from
So Cal or AZ to Muncie for the Nats.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

D




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Re: [RCSE] HUNSKI question

2005-06-02 Thread Mike Smith

All I know is when DP gets the  Hunski I have to give him a buck.I 
hate that.


Mike



At 07:26 PM 6/1/2005, GuyR wrote:

Greetings!
In the NWSS we are using a new landing task called The Hunt for
The
Hunski. We will publish an article soon.  I want to know where the
term HUNSKI was orriginated. I've seen it on this list in reference
to
a 100 pt landing. Any information would be appreciated.
THANKS!
Guy


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Re: [RCSE] spring fling

2005-05-16 Thread Mike Smith

I am going to try and rip that thing from your cold, dying? hands. I'll
bet your hands will be pretty darn alive everytime there is a buck on the
line for the landing.

Sure hope they have that bonus zone for when you really screw up ;^) I
liked that one last time.

See you there.
Mike

At 07:56 AM 5/14/2005, Daryl Perkins wrote:
Hey guys,
I was just on the SVSS website signing up for the
Spring Fling. Hello.. where is everybody?
Looks like a fun format - lots of flying, challenging
tasks, and a great group of guys. Besides, I'll be
there... who wants to miss that ;-)
Go here for more info - www.svss.org
By the way, there has been a small group of volunteers
who have resurrected the Triad trophy. The Triad, for
those who don't know, was awarded to the top scoring
pilot through three Southwest based contests for the
year - AZ (South West Classic), The RoseBowl 2 Day
(Don't recall the name) and Visalia. With the death of
PSS, the Triad got kinda lost. A few clubs tried to
resurrect it, but it never really stuck. I carried the
trophy around for awhile, but it was so ugly I never
bothered to have my name put on it. (It's a prepetual
trophy) I finally stuck it in the trailer in Visalia
and ran ;-) But now... a new and improved Triad
resurfaces
The Spring Fling will make up the second leg this
year.
It's the type of title that means a lot to a true
competitor. To have won a single contest is nice, but
to have bested the top soaring pilots in the West over
25-30 flights over 6 days of flying, in varying
conditions, varying landing tasks is pretty
meaningful. It always meant a lot to me. It was a
shame to see it die.
If you scored well in AZ, better get your butt up to
Sac-O-Potatoes June 25 and 26 and kick some butt. I've
seen some ideas regarding the new trophy, and
whichever way they go, it'll be a must have. I know
I'll be working hard for it.
So everybody come on up to the Spring Fling. Support
SVSS. Support the Triad. Somebody's gotta win this
thing. Might as well be you. But, of course, you'll
have to pry it from my cold dying hands. ;-)
D

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Re: [RCSE] Fwd: Fw: [SVSS] CVRC in Trouble?

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Smith

Guys, and gals,
I sent the note about Visalia for your information.  Please don't flame the 
reporter that is mentioned in the letter, or anyone else for that matter 
yet.  Apparently, there is one person that is the cause for CVRC's use of 
the land as an RC glider venue being considered inconsistent with 
agricultural use.  The owner and CVRC are working on it, and I think that 
chances are pretty good that compelling arguments can be made so that state 
officials understand that not only is RC use consistent with the Ag. zone 
for that property, but that CVRC's presence is very beneficial to that 
portion of the property working correctly as part of the overall AG. system 
around the flying field.

So, hang tight.  I am sure someone will let us know when the power of many 
voices is needed.

Get out there and fly.  Summer is coming.
Mike

At 08:12 AM 5/9/2005, Matt Lydon wrote:
Sounds like the easiest thing would be to fight the 'entertainment' 
charge. - Soaring contests are serious business, after all.

Matt
Charles Eaton wrote:
Government.  They should be part time and every time they make a new law ten
must be eliminated.
- Original Message -
From: Flying High [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: exchange soaring@airage.com
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Fwd: Fw: [SVSS] CVRC in Trouble?


What will this mean for our upcoming Fall Festival?
Why can't some people just leave us glider guys alone!
Let's all rally together and see if we all can't do
something to help the club keep their field and keep us all
Flying!!!
Edgar
The Soaring Junkie
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Re: [RCSE] Fresno Classic?

2005-04-07 Thread Mike Smith

Attention RC glider pilots...
The Torrey Pines Gulls will hold their monthly Thermal Duration contest 
this Sunday April 10th.  Everyone is invited as long as you are an AMA 
member.  If you are seriously interested in coming out, check out the club 
website for directions and contest details

Thanks, see you ALL there...
Mike Smith,
PS  - WHATEVEY YOU DO, DON'T TELL THAT DARYL GUY.

At 12:03 PM 4/7/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If they made it too open or announced it to all. You'd show with that 
fancy new bird of yours and kick butt and that ain't fair!
Don
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From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:49:35 -0700 (PDT)

Is there a reason this contest is a secret until after
it's over? ;-)
Congrats to all the top placers!
D

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RE: [RCSE] Eloy Desert Classic F3b April 23,24

2005-04-06 Thread Mike Smith

Hello Tracy and anyone else that might be interested.  Yes this is a true 
F3B contest, and you are right, there has been very little notification 
about the contest.  It is an annual event, been going on for quite a few 
years, but always seems to be under the radar for those who don't have the 
contacts...

The CD this year is the 2005 F3B Team Manager, Phil Renaud.  I am CCing him 
in this e-mail so he can reply to you, this group, and perhaps 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] too.

Phil, could you put together an info e-mail for distribution to those that 
might want to attend and post it to RCSE, and the FAI group?

Take care,
Mike Smith

At 08:45 AM 3/30/2005, Tracy J. Castell wrote:
Mike,
Is this a true F3b contest?  I can not find anywhere on the net to sign up
for this event and I live in Tucson!!  Can you help me out and let me know
where to look.
Tracy Castell
Waterworks Sales Manager
Ferguson Waterworks - Arizona
(520) 940-0354
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From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:38 AM
To: Michael Lachowski; soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Eloy Desert Classic F3b April 23,24
Me and Joe Wurts, and Steve Condon, and Kenny Talbert, and maybe Gordon
Jennings if he can get away from work.
Are you and Tom Kiesling coming out?
Mike
At 06:53 PM 3/29/2005, Michael Lachowski wrote:
Who is planning on going to Eloy the end of April?
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Re: [RCSE] Eloy Desert Classic F3b April 23,24

2005-03-30 Thread Mike Smith

Me and Joe Wurts, and Steve Condon, and Kenny Talbert, and maybe Gordon 
Jennings if he can get away from work.

Are you and Tom Kiesling coming out?
Mike
At 06:53 PM 3/29/2005, Michael Lachowski wrote:
Who is planning on going to Eloy the end of April?
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RE: [RCSE] Eloy Desert Classic F3b April 23,24

2005-03-30 Thread Mike Smith

Hello Tracy and anyone else that might be interested.  Yes this is a true 
F3B contest, and you are right, there has been very little notification 
about the contest.  It is an annual event, been going on for quite a few 
years, but always seems to be under the radar for those who don't have the 
contacts...

The CD this year is the 2005 F3B Team Manager, Phil Renaud.  I am CCing him 
in this e-mail so he can reply to you, this group, and perhaps 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] too.

Phil, could you put together an info e-mail for distribution to those that 
might want to attend and post it to RCSE, and the FAI group?

Take care,
Mike Smith

At 08:45 AM 3/30/2005, Tracy J. Castell wrote:
Mike,
Is this a true F3b contest?  I can not find anywhere on the net to sign up
for this event and I live in Tucson!!  Can you help me out and let me know
where to look.
Tracy Castell
Waterworks Sales Manager
Ferguson Waterworks - Arizona
(520) 940-0354
-Original Message-
From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:38 AM
To: Michael Lachowski; soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Eloy Desert Classic F3b April 23,24
Me and Joe Wurts, and Steve Condon, and Kenny Talbert, and maybe Gordon
Jennings if he can get away from work.
Are you and Tom Kiesling coming out?
Mike
At 06:53 PM 3/29/2005, Michael Lachowski wrote:
Who is planning on going to Eloy the end of April?
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Re: [RCSE] Better than sims...

2005-03-14 Thread Mike Smith

I think to make it really interesting, you should fire up the ceiling 
fan.  At least on low ;^)

Mike
At 07:06 PM 3/13/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
Well that was popular...  here is part 2.
Also in QuickTime video, also shot by Rae, compressed with our iMac:
http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/video/JVB_Indoor_Copter1.mov
At 08:44 PM 3/13/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
Here is a QuickTime video that Rae just shot, enjoy:
http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/video/JVB_Indoor_Copter.mov

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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a comparison between the Eraser Xtreme and Sharon

2005-03-07 Thread Mike Smith



OK, now for a differing and contradictory opinion...
I have flown many many gliders over my 27+ years of model soaring.
When I had the opportunity to fly a Sharon, I took it. When I had
the opportunity to buy that Sharon 3.7 Pro - X tail, I jumped at
it. It is my one and only thermal duration, or F3J contest
bird. It floats in light lift better than almost any other
glider. It will, and I have hand launched this cow and
climbed out in tight little thermals. It is not a
Cow. It is nimble, and has great legs. It covers
ground with the best of them and again better than most. As for
landing...it is a very good landing machine. Just ask the guys that
flew in last years Unlimited class at the Nats. It did not let me
down. Of course I was only flying for 2nd place until Josh had his
bad luck. But still, within 12 from the nail 90% of the time
is not the results one would expect from a Cow.
Keep in mind, I am not sponsored or paid to say any of this. I am a
true believer in the Sharon Pro 3.7 Cross Tail.
All of the above applies if you have set the airplane up correctly.
It is a big glider. If the set-up is not right, it could be
difficult to fly correctly. And for the record, if you haven't
figured this out by now, I disagree totally with the Rabbit...
Of course, he could just be trying to keep you from getting oneI bet
he has two or three back-up Sharons in the briar patch with
him ;^)
Happy flying
Mike

At 05:44 PM 3/5/2005, Mike Remus wrote:
I am on my third Sharon Pro
3.7. Been flying them for about 3 years, except last year
personal reasons. They are a real hand full to launch,
must be flown at exactly the right air speed, a cow to land, and quirky
in a thermal. Tell him to Please stick with the
Eraser. It's much better. Don't ask me why I stick with the
Sharon, possibly to old to change my ways.

Brare Rabbit

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:26:43 -0700 Adam Till
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


Hi folks,



Posting for a friend off-list. 



He's looking for a relative comparison of
the flying abilities of the Sharon 3.7 and Eraser Xtreme, and since I've
never flown a Sharon, I'm not much help.



I'd assume that the Eraser would be better
at working light or tight lift, but what about relative flight speeds or
climbing ability in lift? How strong is the Eraser Xtreme wing? (I know
the F3B wing is basically bulletproof...love my Eraser) Will the RG-15
Sharon wing slow down nicely in lift like the Eraser's MH-32 will?



He's finding that his d-box NYX doesn't
match his flying style, and is looking for something else. I'm pushing
him towards an Eraser of some description since I've been flying them for
5 years faithfully, but don't have any direct experience with anything
other than the F3B version.



Anyone have a NIB or like-new Sharon or
Eraser Xtreme (or F3J) that they want to sell? Would have to be in
perfect shape, no repaired models please.



Cheers,

Adam



PS - got to fly a pair of bald eagles today
as we both themalled out from about 50 feet...what a treat! Photos:



http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343196








Mike Remus
LOFT Glider Club
Fort Wayne IN
LSF Level 5 #112
Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream Lofty
dreams!

Re: [RCSE] Looking for a comparison between the Eraser Xtreme and Sharon

2005-03-07 Thread Mike Smith



Sorry if I have let the cat out of the bag. You know you still have
a jump on everyone your experience on the Sharon. And they will all
look to you for set-up tricks, so you could give them the super secret
set-up version ;^)
I am just glad to spread the word on a design that works so well on so
many levels.
Sharon's forever...
Mike

At 10:06 AM 3/7/2005, Mike Remus wrote:
Well Mike, now you've gone and
done it! You spilled the beans and said great things about the
Sharon Pro 3.7 X tail and more people will want one. Just wanted to
keep all the advantages for my self.
Thanks a lot!
Brare Rabbit

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:35:50 -0800 Mike Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


OK, now for a differing and contradictory opinion...

I have flown many many gliders over my 27+ years of model
soaring. When I had the opportunity to fly a Sharon, I took
it. When I had the opportunity to buy that Sharon 3.7 Pro - X tail,
I jumped at it. It is my one and only thermal duration, or F3J
contest bird. It floats in light lift better than almost any other
glider. It will, and I have hand launched this cow and
climbed out in tight little thermals. It is not a
Cow. It is nimble, and has great legs. It covers
ground with the best of them and again better than most. As for
landing...it is a very good landing machine. Just ask the guys that
flew in last years Unlimited class at the Nats. It did not let me
down. Of course I was only flying for 2nd place until Josh had his
bad luck. But still, within 12 from the nail 90% of the time
is not the results one would expect from a Cow.

Keep in mind, I am not sponsored or paid to say any of this. I
am a true believer in the Sharon Pro 3.7 Cross Tail.

All of the above applies if you have set the airplane up
correctly. It is a big glider. If the set-up is not right, it
could be difficult to fly correctly. And for the record, if you
haven't figured this out by now, I disagree totally with the
Rabbit...

Of course, he could just be trying to keep you from getting oneI
bet he has two or three back-up Sharons in the briar patch with
him ;^)

Happy flying

Mike


At 05:44 PM 3/5/2005, Mike Remus wrote:

I am on my third Sharon Pro 3.7. Been flying them for about 3
years, except last year personal reasons. They are a
real hand full to launch, must be flown at exactly the right air speed, a
cow to land, and quirky in a thermal. Tell him to Please
stick with the Eraser. It's much better. Don't ask me
why I stick with the Sharon, possibly to old to change my ways.



Brare Rabbit



On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:26:43 -0700 Adam Till
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

Hi folks,
 
Posting for a friend off-list. 
 
He's looking for a relative comparison of
the flying abilities of the Sharon 3.7 and Eraser Xtreme, and since I've
never flown a Sharon, I'm not much help.
 
I'd assume that the Eraser would be better
at working light or tight lift, but what about relative flight speeds or
climbing ability in lift? How strong is the Eraser Xtreme wing? (I know
the F3B wing is basically bulletproof...love my Eraser) Will the RG-15
Sharon wing slow down nicely in lift like the Eraser's MH-32
will?
 
He's finding that his d-box NYX doesn't
match his flying style, and is looking for something else. I'm pushing
him towards an Eraser of some description since I've been flying them for
5 years faithfully, but don't have any direct experience with anything
other than the F3B version.
 
Anyone have a NIB or like-new Sharon or
Eraser Xtreme (or F3J) that they want to sell? Would have to be in
perfect shape, no repaired models please.
 
Cheers,
Adam
 
PS - got to fly a pair of bald eagles today
as we both themalled out from about 50 feet...what a treat!
Photos:
 
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343196
 

 





Mike Remus

LOFT Glider Club

Fort Wayne IN

LSF Level 5 #112

Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream Lofty
dreams!




Mike Remus
LOFT Glider Club
Fort Wayne IN
LSF Level 5 #112
Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream Lofty
dreams!

Re: [RCSE] Looking for a comparison between the Eraser Xtreme and Sharon

2005-03-07 Thread Mike Smith

Yes, too true.  Before the Sharon, it was the Sapphire.  Some guys just 
keep designing gliders that fly exactly the right time and hit the darn spot.

:^)
Mike

At 10:24 AM 3/7/2005, Bill's Email wrote:
See, I knew it was the Sharon and NOT Smith.
Maybe I gotta get me one of them things!!
Bill
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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a comparison between the Eraser Xtreme and Sharon

2005-03-07 Thread Mike Smith

Barney is going to have a lot of company Jim.  Does he like Sharon's  ;^)
Mike

At 11:20 AM 3/7/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
I think you guys should buy all the Sharon's you need...  8-)

At 11:35 AM 3/7/2005, Mike Smith wrote:
Of course, he could just be trying to keep you from getting oneI bet 
he has two or three back-up Sharons in the briar patch with him;^)
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a comparison between the Eraser Xtreme and Sharon

2005-03-07 Thread Mike Smith

Yes, Sharon knows this.  Hoping to distract Barney from his job :^P

At 02:05 PM 3/7/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
I failed to mention the best thing about the Sharon...  8-)
Barney loves the way Sharon screams in ecstasy as she drops her flaps!
(The scream the Sharon makes while intially dropping its flaps is a very 
recognizable sound, and usually someone on the field will comment on it at 
the time)  ;~)


At 01:23 PM 3/7/2005, Mike Smith wrote:
Barney is going to have a lot of company Jim.  Does he like Sharon's  ;^)
Mike
Jim
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[RCSE] Paging D'Anne Thompson, and Darrell Zaballos

2005-02-28 Thread Mike Smith

DZ and D'anne, could you please drop me a line.
Thanks,
Mike Smith
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Re: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners - radical flap modulation ?

2005-02-24 Thread Mike Smith



All it means is that if you like to use the flap lever like an on/off
switch on approach to a spot landing, you will almost certainly let the
big flaps slow you down too much, and you will land short of the
spot. But if you are careful to establish the correct glide angle
with perhaps 1/3 flap, then you will more likely have enough energy
throughout the approach to actually make it to the spot. The flaps
are very effective. That is what I am trying to say.
Mike

At 03:44 PM 2/24/2005, Chris Veitch wrote:
Tom

Re:- During landing, the Sharon doesn't like a lot of radical flap
modulation.

Can you clarify what you mean by this, save me
guessing as I am just kitting my electric one out at present.

TIA
Chris



- Original Message - 

From: Tom Hoopes 

To: Stan
Myers
; 

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:01 PM

Subject: Re: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners, need
input

At 10:26 AM 2/18/05 -0600, Stan Myers wrote:

Had all but decided on Tempest when the water got muddy. Someone(read
Edgar Soaring Junkie) suggested I consider the
Sharon. So, I'm asking for input. Probably the main criteria
I have is that it be able to hi-start. I do not have a winch
readily available to me(and the club winch has seen better days). I am
able to get 23#'s of pull out of my hi start. Which was adequate for my
Artemis 5mph +, but really iffy for 1-3 mph.

That aside, does it require constant attention with the sticks?
I'm a Sunday Flyer and I am looking for 'relaxed'
flying. I have some open class flying experience. I have a
Sun 3.2m electric powered by Hacker 50 that I am able to
handle, but never really got comfortable with the Artemis V
tail.

Any and all suggestions would be appreciate.

Yes I'm the same guy who asked about the Tempest last week.
Appreciate the band width.

Stan

Stan,

I have a Sharon, Artemis and a couple of Icons so I might be able to
provide some input.

I bought my Sharon for an early morning/light lift F3J
tool. The Sharon will handle a brutal two-man tow without complaints. I'm
not sure what you would consider constant attention to the
sticks, but I think the Sharon is a nice flyer, with one exception.
During landing, the Sharon doesn't like a lot of radical flap modulation,
I'm guessing that this is due to the large flap chord. Otherwise, she's
got great legs, hangs well in light conditions and is great fun to
fly.

I've regularly hi-started my Sharon on 25' of 1/2 tubing with 50' of
mono, but I'm probably pulling around 40+ lbs at launch. My Sharon came
with a fixed position towhook and I replaced it with an adjustable
version as well as pushing the CG aft quite a bit.

Interestingly, my Artemis Lite (v-tail) is still my favorite TD plane
to fly. 


Tom Hoopes - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 -- Hoopes
Designs -

Taking the hassle out of wing wiring harnesses


http://www.hoopesdesigns.com

Re: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners - radical flap modulation ?

2005-02-24 Thread Mike Smith



Oh, was that for Tom...? Sorry. Go ahead Tom, you tell
him.
Mike

At 03:44 PM 2/24/2005, Chris Veitch wrote:
Tom

Re:- During landing, the Sharon doesn't like a lot of radical flap
modulation.

Can you clarify what you mean by this, save me
guessing as I am just kitting my electric one out at present.

TIA
Chris



- Original Message - 

From: Tom Hoopes 

To: Stan
Myers
; 

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:01 PM

Subject: Re: [RCSE] ATTN: Sharon 3.7 x-tail owners, need
input

At 10:26 AM 2/18/05 -0600, Stan Myers wrote:

Had all but decided on Tempest when the water got muddy. Someone(read
Edgar Soaring Junkie) suggested I consider the
Sharon. So, I'm asking for input. Probably the main criteria
I have is that it be able to hi-start. I do not have a winch
readily available to me(and the club winch has seen better days). I am
able to get 23#'s of pull out of my hi start. Which was adequate for my
Artemis 5mph +, but really iffy for 1-3 mph.

That aside, does it require constant attention with the sticks?
I'm a Sunday Flyer and I am looking for 'relaxed'
flying. I have some open class flying experience. I have a
Sun 3.2m electric powered by Hacker 50 that I am able to
handle, but never really got comfortable with the Artemis V
tail.

Any and all suggestions would be appreciate.

Yes I'm the same guy who asked about the Tempest last week.
Appreciate the band width.

Stan

Stan,

I have a Sharon, Artemis and a couple of Icons so I might be able to
provide some input.

I bought my Sharon for an early morning/light lift F3J
tool. The Sharon will handle a brutal two-man tow without complaints. I'm
not sure what you would consider constant attention to the
sticks, but I think the Sharon is a nice flyer, with one exception.
During landing, the Sharon doesn't like a lot of radical flap modulation,
I'm guessing that this is due to the large flap chord. Otherwise, she's
got great legs, hangs well in light conditions and is great fun to
fly.

I've regularly hi-started my Sharon on 25' of 1/2 tubing with 50' of
mono, but I'm probably pulling around 40+ lbs at launch. My Sharon came
with a fixed position towhook and I replaced it with an adjustable
version as well as pushing the CG aft quite a bit.

Interestingly, my Artemis Lite (v-tail) is still my favorite TD plane
to fly. 


Tom Hoopes - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 -- Hoopes
Designs -

Taking the hassle out of wing wiring harnesses


http://www.hoopesdesigns.com

Re: [RCSE] Sailplanes for Sale

2005-02-16 Thread Mike Smith

Hey Daryl,  here is your new perfect weapon -  The 2M Super V - should be 
right up your alley.. ;^)

Chuckling to myself as I type...
Mike

At 12:03 PM 2/16/2005, you wrote:
I have the following models for sale:
-2M Super V
-New Pretty Mantis with Aegea wings  tail by Phil Barnes
-Dodgson Windsong.
Pictures, info and prices can be viewed at:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336428
Randy Teel
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Re: [RCSE] Need feed back from you Tempest flyers or those who have seen one fly.

2005-02-15 Thread Mike Smith

Don't know how much you paid Stan, but they are great flying gliders.  You 
won't be disappointed

Mike

At 07:39 AM 2/15/2005, Stan Myers wrote:
I've struck a deal with George Voss on a Tempest. I'm not having buyers 
remorse, but have never spent that much $$$ on a toy airplane.
Perhaps reassurance is what I'm looking for.

TIA
Stan
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Re: [RCSE] Bling Bling 2m

2005-02-14 Thread Mike Smith

hh!!!
The Icon's are procreating.
:^)
Mike
At 06:22 PM 2/11/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
Hey, you guys wanna see a cool 2m?
Here's a picture of it amongst normal sized models...
http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/2004/images/miniicon.jpg
Fully molded, custom painted, completely JR digital, definitely the most 
BLING BLING 2m at Nats in 2005.  8-)

Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV
ICQ: 6997780   AIM: InventorJim   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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Re: [RCSE] Bling Bling 2m

2005-02-14 Thread Mike Smith

Jim, its Super Dee Duper looking
;^)
Mike
At 10:32 AM 2/14/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
Heh heh heh, lil' Barney. 8-)

At 11:22 AM 2/14/2005, Mike Smith wrote:
hh!!!
The Icon's are procreating.
:^)
Mike
At 06:22 PM 2/11/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
Hey, you guys wanna see a cool 2m?
Here's a picture of it amongst normal sized models...
http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/2004/images/miniicon.jpg
Fully molded, custom painted, completely JR digital, definitely the most
BLING BLING 2m at Nats in 2005. 8-)

Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV
ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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Re: [RCSE] What's your favorite contest/gathering format?

2005-02-11 Thread Mike Smith

I would not agree with that until one fundamental element was changed.
The Landing Zone.  While in/out zones make for quick and easy scoring, they 
add a significant luck factor to the overall outcome of the event.  I know, 
I have won Visalia, and the Nats.  And have come away with the thought, 
better to be lucky than good, anytime.   :^)In my opinion, the 100 
inch tape, one point per inch, which I believe is the Nats system for this 
year, is the most fair way to judge landing accuracy over the course of a 
contest.

But as far as attendance is concerned, more is always better.  I think 
everyone should make the Nationals their must attend contest for the 
year.  Go out to Muncie and fly on YOUR perfectly manicured flying 
field.  An experience that should not be missed.

Mike


At 10:40 AM 2/10/2005, Marta Zavala wrote:
Ream me if you want but even though many consider it a social event,
Visalia to me is the true national championship TD contest.  Yes youve got
the all inclusive week long nats, but the sheer size and number of world
class pilots Visalia
has is probably not matched at any other large contest except for the
Worlds.  I say you win Visalia you are probably the best, at least for that
weekend.   As for format MOM would be ideal, but how would you run a MOM at
a event of any size?
Walter
-Original Message-
From: John Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:02 AM
Subject: [RCSE] What's your favorite contest/gathering format?
OK Soaring addicts,
If you had 3-days of soaring to determine a sailplane National Champion,
what format/format's would you like to see? Where would this contest be
located, and what would make you attend? Do you even want to compete, or
would you just like to come and fly with your buds? Or just watch the best
the US has to offer battle it out for cash, trophy bragging rights?
Thoughts? I'm looking for constructive input.
Thanks,
John
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Re: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc...

2005-02-10 Thread Mike Smith

I resemble that remark... :^) Justin, the Nats are the Nats. If you can
win there you can win anywhere. Josh Glaab beat me last year but I got the
big prize. I don't think Josh has flown at Visalia or any of the Western
states triad series...

Have you Josh?
Go to the Nats and have fun. You won't find a better group people, or
better competition anywhere.

Mike

At 12:15 PM 2/9/2005, James V. Bacus wrote:
Justin, why don't you attend and see if you have the same opinion. Anyone
that wins at Nats is the Champion, there is always representative skills
and talent there. It's a very challenging set of contests over the week.

So I encourage you and others to attend, you will have fun, you will meet
and fly with some very special people day after day. You will learn, and
you will be challenged, and get to fly on the AMA grounds, very nice.

It really is a good time, it wears me out and rejuvenates me
simultaneously. 8-)

At 11:05 AM 2/9/2005, Justin Ammon wrote:
We do have the Nat's, but the numbers seem to be a little low on turnout
to really call it a championship. Maybe some encouragement to attend the
Nat's could make it the event it's title indicates.
Jim
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Re: [RCSE] Contests, Western States Triad, Etc.

2005-02-10 Thread Mike Smith

Yeah, I am too darn busy. Maybe the best guy to handle it is Joe
Nave
He already has the scoring tallied for SWC, we already have a perpetual
trophy -(in the CVRC shed, last I knew), so what do you say Joe? Interested?

Then JT will SVSS be willing to make the Spring Fling leg 2 of the Western
States Triad? Really can't see much more than sending the scores to Joe
for compilation, and forwarding to CVRC..

What say you guys?
Mike

At 01:13 PM 2/9/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to add some perspective to this discussion. Sacramento (SVSS)
stepped up a couple of years ago and offered to hold the second leg of the
Triad when Pasadena (PSS) lost access to the Rose Bowl flying site. I
don't know if that has changed. SVSS held the second leg in 2003, and
passed our info along to the appropriate person. When Visalia 2003 came
along, there was no mention of the Triad, no trophy, nothing.

During contest year 2004 SVSS again offered to hold the second leg. We
got no reply from CASL or CVRC, so we dropped the intent to add that to
our advertising. No mention of it at Visalia 2004 either.

To resurrect this event (I believe it is currently dead), someone will
have to take over the coordination, do the scoring, AND, solicit the $$
for the trophies for this event. In 2003 SVSS was asked if they would
contribute to the trophy fund for 2004, and we said we would be glad
to. Nothing more was ever discussed.

And another good idea goes the way of so many others. Either politics
gets involved, or nobody picks up the responsibility. Edgar, you
interested? I'd suggest Mike, but he has other areas to involve himself
in this year, like F3B.

Jim Thomas

Re: [RCSE] Favorite Format???

2005-02-10 Thread Mike Smith

Well John, as far as my favorite format goes...
I like the Nats program for TD. MOM, up to 10 pilots per flight
group. Measured landings (ie. not zoned landings), and as many lfights as
possible. 3 days if held over a holiday weekend should work well. And the
CD should to call the target time per round to appropriately match the task
time to the conditions. And as far as that goes, my feeling is that the
longer times should be set to the portions of the day that have generally
less convective activity (ie. morning and evening) With shorter times in
between to pack in the rounds when the air has the No Brainer lift.

There you go.
Of course F3J and F3B are good just as they are as far as I am concerned.
Sorry, I think I gave my 2.5 cents.
Mike

At 01:28 PM 2/10/2005, pfsiegel wrote:
That would be F3J with equal winches instead of tow people.
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Re: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc...

2005-02-09 Thread Mike Smith

I agree. The western states triad was and still is a great idea. Visalia
is a great venue for the anchor event, but there has to be an organizer
that can draw together the contest results data and include the standings
and pilot data to the organizers of the next event. So the SWC scores have
to be normalized and provided to the Spring Fling organizers, then those
results combined with SWC's and provided to the Visalia orgainzers. This
will have to be done in advance so the guys tallying the scores have data
to include in their spreadsheet at the end of the contest. Also, if awards
are to be given, the organizer will have to make that happen as well and
communicate with the involved clubs. I think this could be a one man
deal. However, I am already spread way too thin to take it on. What about
you Edgar? Any time to throw at this project?

Take care,
Mike

At 08:34 AM 2/9/2005, Flying High wrote:
Question: Don't know if an official word was passed out on
the Triad, is this DEAD? We still have the Southwest
Classic, Visalia, and Spring Fling last year... so what is
going on with this Triad event?
Don't we have enough interest to bring this back and help
bring more interest for these events?
I guess I'm trying to get my flying fix, can't get enough
flight time in!
How about restructuring some sort of TD Championship that
might involve flying in different States, East Coast,
Central Region and West Coast! It's a small world as we
all know it and I would be interested in attending such an
event! Any others out there interested in such a thing?
I'm just bored at work and thinking about flying as
usual... hence the AKA The Soaring Junkie nick-name!
Edgar
The Soaring Junkie

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Re: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc...

2005-02-09 Thread Mike Smith

Take care,
Mike

Re: [RCSE] Thanks CASL!

2005-02-08 Thread Mike Smith

Oh and on this subject, I would like to add that while perusing the score
sheet after day one, I was going down the placings and kind of speaking the
names loud enough to be heard. There was this guy with a camera taking
pictures of the scoreboard with his significant other behind me. I spoke
Daryl, John Fruge - whoever that is, Me, etc. and low and behold, it was
John right behind me that said, that's me One of those foot in mouth
moments I thought I would share.

Great job by the way John. Hope to see you and your nephew out at other
contests throughout the year.

Mike smith

At 11:49 AM 2/7/2005, John Fruge wrote:
I wanted to also thank CASL for a great event! This was my nephew Perry
(age 11) and my first TD contest. (Other than our small local MRCC monthly
contests.) It was a rollercoaster event for me. It started off bad when
eating on the way out of town on Thursday I got food poisoning. (10 hours
later about an hour out of Phoenix. ) I found myself stopped on the side
of the 10 freeway lying on the rocks wanting to throw up and crap my pants
at the same time. Lucky for me it was 11pm and the cool air did me some
good and 10 minutes later we trekked on to the hotel. I want to thank my
girlfriend Jennifer for driving the last 8 hours of the trip in. The high
light of the event for me was after a great first day I was 2nd place on
the score sheet. Knowing it would not last I did not loose much sleep over it.
I did not make any good landings the 2nd day and missed my time on the
last round by 4 minutes and ended up in 61st place.
Perry did quite well. My choice of plane for him was not the best and he
did great with what he had.
On the way back up on this rollercoaster weekend we ended up doing great
on the raffle.

I just want to say thanks again for a great event. Everyone we talked with
was very helpful and nice. We hope to be back next year.

John Perry Fruge

From: Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/02/07 Mon PM 05:57:08 GMT
To: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Thanks CASL!

I too would like to express my gratitude to the CASL club for hosting
another fine event.

I had a great time, and am looking forward to next year's contest.

By the way, the new retrievers seemed to work very well. Nice work guys.

It was very nice to see some of the midwest glider guiders come out of the
cold to have some fun. Steve Siebenauler (sp?), Mark Gellart, and ah rats
I can't remember his name, flying the pretty manits... :) Just a
few of
the guys that I met at last year's Nats. There were others too, but
unfortunately, my memory is full of too much non-essential info to recall
their names.

See you all soon I hope.

Mike

At 08:05 PM 2/6/2005, Daryl Perkins wrote:
Thanks to all for a great time! Darwin and crew run an
efficient, yet relaxed contest.

The air was challenging at times, making for a
slightly thermal oriented event. Many of the top ten
fell out in the last 8 minute round, shaking the
scores up a bit. I think Edgar had me prior to the
last round.

Don't ask me who finished where I have no idea. I
flew pretty well though. ;-)

I flew an Insanity 3.7. 2nd place Mike Smith flew a
Sharon 3.7. Hm... starting to see a theme here...
;-)

Thanks to all the hard workers at CASL. I had a great
time. And it was great to see so many old friends.
They make me remember what this soaring thing is
really all about.

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Re: [RCSE] Thanks CASL!

2005-02-07 Thread Mike Smith

I too would like to express my gratitude to the CASL club for hosting
another fine event.

I had a great time, and am looking forward to next year's contest.
By the way, the new retrievers seemed to work very well. Nice work guys.
It was very nice to see some of the midwest glider guiders come out of the
cold to have some fun. Steve Siebenauler (sp?), Mark Gellart, and ah rats
I can't remember his name, flying the pretty manits... :) Just a few of
the guys that I met at last year's Nats. There were others too, but
unfortunately, my memory is full of too much non-essential info to recall
their names.

See you all soon I hope.
Mike

At 08:05 PM 2/6/2005, Daryl Perkins wrote:
Thanks to all for a great time! Darwin and crew run an
efficient, yet relaxed contest.
The air was challenging at times, making for a
slightly thermal oriented event. Many of the top ten
fell out in the last 8 minute round, shaking the
scores up a bit. I think Edgar had me prior to the
last round.
Don't ask me who finished where I have no idea. I
flew pretty well though. ;-)
I flew an Insanity 3.7. 2nd place Mike Smith flew a
Sharon 3.7. Hm... starting to see a theme here...
;-)
Thanks to all the hard workers at CASL. I had a great
time. And it was great to see so many old friends.
They make me remember what this soaring thing is
really all about.
D

Re: [RCSE] Disappointed

2004-12-21 Thread Mike Smith

I don't know Bill, but I think you identified not only what makes a fun
contest for you but also, and more importantly, what puts the fun in
contest, for the rest of us.

PUSH MALVEY DOWN THE PAGE! - Now that's fun.
We are hoping to make you work for a second page finish. lol (chuckling
wickedly as I write).

Hey I know, I can even time for you if you'd likereally.I can
help.(wow, way easier to lie through my teeth when you can't see my face)

All in jest of course?
See you out there Malvey.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and everyone.
Mike Smith

At 03:10 PM 12/16/2004, you wrote:
I am very disappointed in how many of you ignored my plea NOT to come to
Phoenix (actually west Globe) for the CASL Southwest Classic (SWC). I just
noticed how many guys entered after my initial plea not to do so.
So for those of you who have not yet entered, THANK YOU, and please don't.
Based on the current entries I am going to have to work pretty hard as it is
do even do half way decently. Top ten looks pretty much out of the question
now thanks to the guys that have already ignored me. Any more show up and it
will take all the fun out of it for me :~{
So for those that haven't entered, why not stay home with your families?
Bond with the kids, clean that garage and make your significant other wonder
what's up, paint the house, mow the lawn, do anything, but stay home. What
do I have to do next, BEG???
Oh, and one other thing, the CD flies POWER!! And I'm talking about BIG
noisy planes too, not nifty little electrics. How can you trust that kind of
guy anyhow? He has forsaken you my glider guiding brethren and deserves not
your support!!!
Entry closes in early January I think, so I'm really only asking you to
procrastinate for a couple of more weeks!!
So help a guy out, will ya' ??? It's Christmas after all!!
~~~
Bill Malvey

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Re: [RCSE] Wind comments

2004-11-24 Thread Mike Smith

That is known in the soaring community as wind gradient. This can also
cause a nice looking approach at what would appear to be the perfect
airspeed, to end either short of target due to the airspeed suddenly
dropping off, or worse, a stall close to the ground. Most of us notice
this happening only after we touch down short of the spot. We can be heard
mumbling something about using too darn much flap ;^)

Mike

At 09:04 AM 11/24/2004, John Erickson wrote:
Once everyone has found the wind gauge...it's interesting to learn about
ground effect. We had a cross country event out in Lancaster. The wind was
blowing at a moderate clip. If you held the wind meter about 4' off the
ground it was reading 8-10 mph.
Joe W. then took the meter and put it up to about 10' off the ground. I
think he tacked it to a pole or something, I can't quite remember. In any
case, the meter now registered 15-18 mph.
This made sense with what our planes were doing up in the air (read going
backwards). This also shed light on hot landings with ballasted planes.
You're driving into the wind about 50' off the ground, you bring the plane
down to the deck and the speed goes up, much higher than anticipated.
JE
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Re: [RCSE] Mano y Mano

2004-10-29 Thread Mike Smith

Laughing Out Loud
Thanks for the chuckle Bill
Mike

At 08:09 AM 10/29/2004, Bill Malvey wrote:
On 10/29/04 5:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yup, I was there and saw the whole show. Were you?.
Yes
That said, when you choose airfoils that are inappropriate to the task,
there
will be a performance penalty. Outstanding pilot skill will usually triumph
anyway but for most of us in the intermediate skill level, a good choice of
section and planform is important. And outstanding pilots WILL be able
to tell
the difference among these airfoils.

Which is what I thought I was saying. Point being that the VAST majority of
the rest of us would be very hard pressed to objectively determine those
same differences. Which does not make them any less interesting to discuss.
And no, I'm not crazy enough to go heads up against DP in any event.
Don't move to SOCAL then. The average contest out here looks like a Who's
Who of soaring. The cool thing is that when you regularly have to fly
against Perkins, Wurts, Smith, Jolly, Jennings, Vera, Sage, and on and on,
it gives you a wonderful excuse for NOT winning. And that's what it's all
about for me. Were I flying against a bunch of hacks, I would have no excuse
for my poor performance (other than to blame myself and THAT won't happen in
this lifetime).
~~~
Bill Malvey

Re: [RCSE] Molded Plane Question, answer

2004-10-28 Thread Mike Smith

All I know is that I am pretty sure I am about second or third in the big 
long line to the right, well, Bills right, my left :^)

L'ing OL at Malveys comment.
Mike Smith
At 03:53 PM 10/28/2004, Bill Malvey wrote:
On 10/28/04 15:48 Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote:
 GREAT! Now you've gone and done it Bill! Do you have ANY idea of how many
 potential enemies you just made??? G
You clearly have not been reading my posts over the years. The New Enemies
line forms to the right. It's the very long one over there And who wants
a potential enemy? Be a man. Step up to the plate and be a real enemy! Then
we can have some fun!!
~~~
Bill Malvey

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Re: [RCSE] 2004 NATS Coverage

2004-10-26 Thread Mike Smith

JB...
You da man!
Mike

At 08:53 AM 10/26/2004, James V. Bacus wrote:
I am so behind on email I will never be able to respond to everyone 
individually, so let me thank all of you that have posted to the exchange 
or emailed me privately about the RC Soaring 2004 Nats coverage in Model 
Aviation this month.

THANK YOU!
(It is a real chore to do with the deadlines so tight, but worth it 
because of you guys)

Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV
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Re: [RCSE] 2004 NATS Coverage

2004-10-22 Thread Mike Smith

Couldn't agree more.  I felt like I was re-living my week in Muncie 
(Moonsay as I have been told it's pronounced)

I truly had a great time meeting everyone, and look forward to another fun 
time next year.  Great photos, and the day to day descriptions are fantastic.

Great job Jim.  See you next year.
Mike Smith
At 09:24 AM 10/22/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got the 2004 NATS edition of Model Aviation and would like  to
compliment Jim on his excellent coverage of the 2004 Soaring Nationals.  Nice
job JB...You're volunteered for 2005!
Amen!
Outstanding coverage. Great write-up and photography. Thank you for making
it a really terrific read for those who couldn't be there! More great 
pics  at:

_http://www.jimbacus.net/_ (http://www.jimbacus.net/)
and details on the LSF site:
_http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2004/Results/default.html_
(http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2004/Results/default.html)
Sounds like too much fun to miss again!
- Dave R
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[RCSE] A big thank you to all......

2004-10-12 Thread Mike Smith

...who made the trip and commitment to help with the 2004 F3B team 
selection contest.

It could not have been done without you.
We had beautiful weather for the 3 days of the contest even though there 
were forecasts and threats of rain showers.

We had between 8 and 12 volunteers to help with the day to day running of 
the contest.  F3B is a very labor intensive event, and always requires lots 
of extra helpers as compared to other soaring events, and tasks.

While I don't remember all  of the names of the people that provided their 
time for us last weekend, I hope that this message makes it out to you all 
in some form or another.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Names I do remember include:
Dave Corven
Jack ?
Phil Renaud
Paul Sherman
Steve Siebenauler (sp?)

Marc Gellart
Thanks again, We really appreciate your efforts.
Mike Smith
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