[RCSE] Wanted 67" Wing Bag

[Michael Morjoseph]

Extra Large Wing Bag 65" Plus
I am Looking for a Nice Wing Bag that is for
a 3.7 Sharon Pro the Center Panel is almost 65"
so I need a Wing Bag at least this long or longer
Bag Lady Van Gundy EtcJim Bag??
Can Trade a Nice 64 "
Like New Barry Kennedy Bag
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Please let me know what you have Available
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Re: [RCSE] New RCSE

[John Erickson]

The Google group is a nice addition.  I¹ve used Google Reader for my news;
it¹s an excellent interface.  Very easy to understand.

Hope our list doesn¹t get too diluted across the web.

JE
--
Erickson Architects
John R. Erickson, AIA




From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:45:46 -0400
To: Soaring List 
Subject: [RCSE] New RCSE

I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to
disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further suggestions. I'm
sure there will be bugs to workout.
 
The groups homepage is:
 
http://groups.google.com/group/rcse
 
The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Please tell your friends and get the word out.
 
Dennis Hoyle
WMSS

[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11604

[D.O. Darnell]

I concur with Anker.  Yahoo groups lacks for our type of usage.   
Google is simple (like a Mac) and Yahoo is difficult, convoluted and  
tedious (like Windows).
I am using the "abridged" option which is slick, quick and doesn't  
keep asking for passwords.  Groups has it's place but Google rocks.  I  
use mine along with Google reader which gathers stuff from other  
places at the same time.


Our club also uses Yahoo Groups for intra-club info, but for an open  
forum like RCSE was, Google's the winner. Try it.  You'll like it.


D.O.





Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:02:31 -0400
From: Anker Berg-Sonne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mark Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: TJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Migrating
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I like Google Groups much better than Yahoo Groups. The web based
interface to Yahoo Groups is terrible and the email distribution of  
the

two is comparable.

Anker

Mark Miller wrote:

I like the Yahoo Groups scenario. MVSA uses it for our communication
and it works well. Like a mail list that you can wither read in web
view or have the mail pushed to your email client.

RCSE was great because it was not a forum type list. Forums have  
their

place but mail works best for what RCSE type communication in my
opinion. In forums stuff gets scattered all over and you have to
browse through the different subjects to find something. BLECH!

Thanks to RCSE and Mike. Through it I found all you guys (for better
or worse) and it furthered my enjoyment of the hobby.

Thanks Mike and MAN

Mark Miller
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[RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site (and goodbye RCSE)

[Paul Emerson]

REDACTION: The google group is superior. Disregard the effort of creating a
new list.




On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Paul Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *The 2M Image is gone... Don is there a new Image in R&D?
> :-)*
>
> Wait, I just read up on the demise of RCSE. If Gordy is elected president,
> he can fix this with our tax dollars.
> Is there no free/cheap list server out there that we could auto-subscribe
> us all to a new address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know some of you
> have the mad internet skills and tools to make this happen. Or someone can
> pony up the $10 a month for a host that has list serv capability. All you
> need is http://www.phplist.com installed on your host.
>
> *In closing, Two Meters rule.
>
> Paul
> www.casl.net
> www.emersunn.com
> *
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Nave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Greetings...
>>
>> Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new
>> site up.
>>
>> Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com
>>
>> Joe
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[RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site (and goodbye RCSE)

[Paul Emerson]

*The 2M Image is gone... Don is there a new Image in R&D?
:-)*

Wait, I just read up on the demise of RCSE. If Gordy is elected president,
he can fix this with our tax dollars.
Is there no free/cheap list server out there that we could auto-subscribe us
all to a new address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know some of you have
the mad internet skills and tools to make this happen. Or someone can pony
up the $10 a month for a host that has list serv capability. All you need is
http://www.phplist.com installed on your host.

*In closing, Two Meters rule.

Paul
www.casl.net
www.emersunn.com
*



On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Nave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings...
>
> Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new
> site up.
>
> Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com
>
> Joe
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[RCSE] Gotta love RCSE

[Daryl Perkins]

Thanks guys for all the .cor files. There is no better community than the RC
soaring community. 

 

OK, you can stop sending them now. ;-)

 

THANKS to all who replied. 

 

D

[RCSE] [Fwd: Address verification request]

[Ben Diss]

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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module

[Doug McLaren]

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:49:21AM -0400, Ed Anderson wrote:

| All that I have read is that the synth modules use more power than the
| single channel modules.  Perhaps the Futaba Synth is different.   Any way,
| for the cost of one 2.4 GHz receiver, I can keep all my 72 MHz stuff flying
| on their current channel.  That is worth it for now.

I actually measured the power consumption a few years ago.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.models.rc.air/msg/5a0063936df977d3

In any event, I'll bet you could find the synthesized module pretty
cheap nowadays, as people are going 2.4 GHz.  A channel 40 module
would be even cheaper, but might be hard to find.

Try ebay, rcgroups if RCSE doesn't come through.

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[RCSE] need .cor file NACA 0018

[Daryl Perkins]

Hi Guys,

 

I hope someone can help. My computer has been down, and I am using a new
one. I no longer have my Compufoil program loaded, but I need to generate
and forward a .cor file ASAP. Can someone please create a NACA 0018 and send
to me please?

 

Sorry to see RCSE go. 

 

Thx

 

D

Re: [RCSE] Migrating

[Anker Berg-Sonne]

I like Google Groups much better than Yahoo Groups. The web based 
interface to Yahoo Groups is terrible and the email distribution of the 
two is comparable.


Anker

Mark Miller wrote:
I like the Yahoo Groups scenario. MVSA uses it for our communication 
and it works well. Like a mail list that you can wither read in web 
view or have the mail pushed to your email client. 

RCSE was great because it was not a forum type list. Forums have their 
place but mail works best for what RCSE type communication in my 
opinion. In forums stuff gets scattered all over and you have to 
browse through the different subjects to find something. BLECH!


Thanks to RCSE and Mike. Through it I found all you guys (for better 
or worse) and it furthered my enjoyment of the hobby. 


Thanks Mike and MAN

Mark Miller
Isthmus Models

- Original Message 
From: TJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:59:17 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Migrating

*So far there seems to be 3 replacements posted.  We'll see which 
actually pans out.*


- Original Message -
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*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ;
soaring@airage.com <mailto:soaring@airage.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:15 AM
*Subject:* Re: [RCSE] Migrating

You mean Joe Wurts won't be able use his Gordy Soar handle any
more??

Here's something to consider when "migrating" to a replacement
    for RCSE.
One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real
names, not
cutesy-poo nam de plumes.  Let's continue that practice in
what ever forum
we wind up in.
Jim Deck

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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module

[Anker Berg-Sonne]

Ed,

Its certainly true for XPS and Spectrum, and its the Spectrum I am 
recommending, because the deal is so good.


What happens is that even though the 2.4GHZ transmits at greater power 
than 72MHZ, they transmit in packets and between packets the transmitter 
isn't sending any signal. The net effect is that the total power drain 
goes down. I use both XPS and Spectrum and I can see it directly on how 
long my transmitter batteries last.


Anker

Ed Anderson wrote:

All that I have read is that the synth modules use more power than the
single channel modules.  Perhaps the Futaba Synth is different.   Any way,
for the cost of one 2.4 GHz receiver, I can keep all my 72 MHz stuff flying
on their current channel.  That is worth it for now.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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To: "Anker Berg-Sonne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Ed Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Soaring Exchange"
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module


  

Ed,

I forgot to mention that the transmitter will use LES power with the
synth module and you won't see any difference with your receiver. Its
the servos that drain the receiver battery.

Anker






  

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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module

[Anker Berg-Sonne]

Ed,

I forgot to mention that the transmitter will use LES power with the 
synth module and you won't see any difference with your receiver. Its 
the servos that drain the receiver battery.


Anker

Anker Berg-Sonne wrote:

Ed,

Forget about a 72MHZ module. Contact Horizon Hobbies or your local 
hooby shop and get a 2.4 GHZ transmitter module AND a 7000 full range 
receiver for just $110. I just installed this in one of my radios and 
my decond Supra fude and it works like a champ!


Anker

Ed Anderson wrote:

Most of my planes are on a Futaba 9C super on channel 40. Seems my Ch 40
module is getting a bit flakey.  Anyone got one cheap they want to 
get rid

of?  If not, I will probably get the synth module to replace it, but I
prefer the single channel modules.  They use a lot less power.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:17 AM
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[RCSE] Re: In Memory of RCSE

[Robglover]

Mike -

Many many thanks to Airage and especially to you for doing this great
thing for so many years. I hope that whatever replaces it can do as
well. 

Rob Glover


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[RCSE] Re: Migrating

[schrederman]

Joined... glad we're going to have a good place to meet... Thanks Dennis


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[RCSE] RCSE

[AJ Bhatta]

Its been a great resource for me over the years and the best place for 
announcements, contacts, items for sale etc. A big thanks to all the folks who 
helped keep it going thru the years.
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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module

[Ed Anderson]

All that I have read is that the synth modules use more power than the
single channel modules.  Perhaps the Futaba Synth is different.   Any way,
for the cost of one 2.4 GHz receiver, I can keep all my 72 MHz stuff flying
on their current channel.  That is worth it for now.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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To: "Anker Berg-Sonne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Ed Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Soaring Exchange"
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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module


> Ed,
>
> I forgot to mention that the transmitter will use LES power with the
> synth module and you won't see any difference with your receiver. Its
> the servos that drain the receiver battery.
>
> Anker
>


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[RCSE] A typical post from the good old days

[Chuck Anderson]

This is a typical post from the good old days when RCSE was 
young.  But like all of us, RCSE declined with age.   This is what 
made RCSE so great.  Now all we get is what is the latest and 
greatest moldy and who won the last contest.  Maybe it is time for 
RCSE to depart.


This was the first of several posts Joe made about dynamic soaring.

Chuck Anderson

From: Joe  Wurts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 May 96 02:35:19 EDT
Subject: Dynamic Soaring
Status: RO

For quite a long time I've heard about "dynamic soaring", but have 
almost never really used it in any operational sense while flying rc 
gliders.  In fact, I've kind of filed it under the Holy Grail 
category. Just one of those things that you read about.  But I've now 
had  a bit of practical experience with it.


One of the slopes that I have been flying at has a very pronounced 
"razor back" to it (Parker Mountain near Acton CA).  What is really 
neat about it is that the air behind the hill is completely 
separated. That is, it can be blowing 25 mph on the face, and behind 
the hill, it is almost calm and sometimes even blowing softly in the 
opposite direction.  It turns out that this is an absolutely perfect 
set-up for dynamic soaring.  All you have to do is fly straight 
down-wind over the hill into the calm air and turn around.  If you 
want, when you  come back over the upwind face, turn around and 
repeat.  With each turn, you get an amazing boost in the energy of 
the glider.The first time I really played with this was with my 
Floyd, and on the second go-around I fluttered the wings.  The plane 
will take an extended vertical dive without any possibility of 
flutter, so I was able to get it to above the terminal velocity of 
the glider in horizontal flight!!!


One thing that is especially wild is when the wind dies down a bit, 
and you can just stay up in the normal lift in minimum sink mode. 
Start doing the orbiting for the dynamic soaring and you can get up 
to about three times the speed that you can when you just fly in the 
normal slope lift.  Wild stuff.  What really gets entertaining is 
when you make a mistake behind the hill.  The air is a bit turbulent, 
and occasionally I miss the air (read: smite the earth).  This is 
where a good foamie comes in handy.  I woulda never really 
investigated this phenomena without a crash-proof plane.


If your slope has separated air behind the hill, and you do not mind 
occasionally crashing while you learn a new trick, give this a 
try.  Caution, I'd recommend trying this maneuver out sometime when 
you have the hill to yourself.  It takes a little getting used to... 
And a hint, the lower you go on the downwind side, the better off you 
are (more delta-vee typically).


Joe Wurts


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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module

[Ed Anderson]

I have two 9C Supers.  One has a 2.4 GHz Spectrum module in it and 4
receivers.  This handles my slope planes primarily.  Over time I will
migrate all to this.

The other is on 72 MHz.  I use both.  I am not ready to replace the 12
receivers I have now on 72 MHz.  I have ch 35 and 55 modules also, but all
my planes are on 40, so for the cost of a channel module I can keep them
flying till I migrate all to 2.4 over the next couple of years.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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From: "Anker Berg-Sonne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ed Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Soaring Exchange" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module


> Ed,
>
> Forget about a 72MHZ module. Contact Horizon Hobbies or your local hooby
> shop and get a 2.4 GHZ transmitter module AND a 7000 full range receiver
> for just $110. I just installed this in one of my radios and my decond
> Supra fude and it works like a champ!
>
> Anker
>
> Ed Anderson wrote:
> > Most of my planes are on a Futaba 9C super on channel 40. Seems my Ch 40
> > module is getting a bit flakey.  Anyone got one cheap they want to get
rid
> > of?  If not, I will probably get the synth module to replace it, but I
> > prefer the single channel modules.  They use a lot less power.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ed Anderson
> > - Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Soaring" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:17 AM
> > Subject: Soaring V1 #11602
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module

[Anker Berg-Sonne]

Ed,

Forget about a 72MHZ module. Contact Horizon Hobbies or your local hooby 
shop and get a 2.4 GHZ transmitter module AND a 7000 full range receiver 
for just $110. I just installed this in one of my radios and my decond 
Supra fude and it works like a champ!


Anker

Ed Anderson wrote:

Most of my planes are on a Futaba 9C super on channel 40. Seems my Ch 40
module is getting a bit flakey.  Anyone got one cheap they want to get rid
of?  If not, I will probably get the synth module to replace it, but I
prefer the single channel modules.  They use a lot less power.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:17 AM
Subject: Soaring V1 #11602



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[RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module

[Ed Anderson]

Most of my planes are on a Futaba 9C super on channel 40. Seems my Ch 40
module is getting a bit flakey.  Anyone got one cheap they want to get rid
of?  If not, I will probably get the synth module to replace it, but I
prefer the single channel modules.  They use a lot less power.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:17 AM
Subject: Soaring V1 #11602



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Re: [Bulk] [RCSE] The posts that meant the most

[Chuck Anderson]

I too have been a subscriber from the start.  The oldest post in my 
Humor folder is from November, 1995 and I did not save earlier posts.


Early on, I realized that there was a lot of good information from 
real experts so began saving the technical posts in separate 
folders.  Some of the folders were for aerodynamics, electronics, 
structures, flutter, humor, soaring history, launch equipment, and 
one just for Joe Wurts posts.  The good technical stuff has vanished 
from RCSE so it won't be the loss it could have been if RCSE had 
disappeared 10 years ago.  I collected some of the best on 
aerodynamics and structures into a word document for easy reference 
and it turned out to be over a hundred pages.


RC Groups is a poor substitute for what RCSE has been but I suppose I 
will have to do with what is available.


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[RCSE] Going but not fotgotten

[josephchayes]

Well a sad farewell to an old friend and friends that I see scattering across 
the net.
Does the end of the RCSE mean the end of the Yahoo groups connection? Couldn't 
those of us that want it to go on forever use the Yahoo groups?

Joe 

Proud owner of three flying Falcon 880's 
One of Four Super Esprit Pilots 
LSF Level I 
Thermal Rider - The Original Nostalgia Pages 
Home of the Gentle Giants of Days Gone Bye. 
http://www.thermalrider.com 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] New RCSE...I'm in!



In a message dated 8/26/2008 11:44:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to 
disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further suggestions. I'm 
sure there will be bugs to workout.

The groups homepage is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rcse

The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please tell your friends and get the word out.

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS






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[RCSE] New RCSE...I'm in!

[GordySoar]

 
In a message dated 8/26/2008 11:44:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I took it upon myself to create this Google  Group to replace the soon to 
disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have  and further suggestions. I'm 
sure 
there will be bugs to workout.
 
The groups homepage is:
 
_http://groups.google.com/group/rcse_ (http://groups.google.com/group/rcse) 
 
The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 
Please tell your friends and get the word  out.
 
Dennis Hoyle
WMSS





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[RCSE] Mid-Am OVSS #7 Offering Awesom Trophy's!

[GordySoar]

Sorry guys, I know you are used to reaching in a box for some surprise at  
the awards ...but don't expect some generic black velvet paintings of Elvis  
playing cards with dogs
 
Louisville MidSouth had engraved Louisville Slugger Batsthe Mid Am will  
have engraved clear glass mugs, no not coffee cups, MUGSThey'll not only  
have your placement, the date and the event, they'll also have the LSF logo  
engraved!
 
Hey you spend the money, you drive the drive, you fly the flights...you  
deserve something special to commemorate your achievement!
 
And lets not forget that Overall Top Sportsman and Expert will receive the  
JR OVSS prize of two Digital 368 servos..each!
 
See you there!
Gordy
 
 
In a message dated 8/26/2008 9:28:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hey  guys, with one of the last gasps of RCSE, want to remind everyone about 
the  Mid Am that is being held at the Kentucky Horse Park on September  6&7.  
They are flying seeded MOM, a first for BSS at the Mid Am, and  we need to 
support their efforts.  The KHP has lots of things going on  every weekend and 
thisone is not any different, there is a museum, horse show  going on and other 
activities, so Mom and kids do not have to watch sailplanes  all day.

I know they have an RCGroup listing under events and you can  go to 
www.kentuckyhorsepark.com to see what is going  on.

Marc
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[RCSE] Mid-Am OVSS #7 Guess Who's Coming????

[GordySoar]

Louisiana's top TD pilot has his Sharon tuned up on JR DSM 2.4...and his  GPS 
is dialed in for the Kentucky Horse Park!  Yep he's coming to the Mid  Am
 
You?
Gordy
 
 
In a message dated 8/26/2008 9:28:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hey  guys, with one of the last gasps of RCSE, want to remind everyone about 
the  Mid Am that is being held at the Kentucky Horse Park on September  6&7.  
They are flying seeded MOM, a first for BSS at the Mid Am, and  we need to 
support their efforts.  The KHP has lots of things going on  every weekend and 
thisone is not any different, there is a museum, horse show  going on and other 
activities, so Mom and kids do not have to watch sailplanes  all day.

I know they have an RCGroup listing under events and you can  go to 
www.kentuckyhorsepark.com to see what is going  on.

Marc
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[RCSE] Mid-Am OVSS #7

[Marc Gellart]

Hey guys, with one of the last gasps of RCSE, want to remind everyone about the 
Mid Am that is being held at the Kentucky Horse Park on September 6&7.  They 
are flying seeded MOM, a first for BSS at the Mid Am, and we need to support 
their efforts.  The KHP has lots of things going on every weekend and thisone 
is not any different, there is a museum, horse show going on and other 
activities, so Mom and kids do not have to watch sailplanes all day.

I know they have an RCGroup listing under events and you can go to 
www.kentuckyhorsepark.com to see what is going on.

Marc
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[RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Thomas Ernst]

My mail box for RCSE went from "Gordy for President" to " In memory of RCSE".

One thing I most remember are Chuck Anderson's stories of flying in 
the past. While I have been inactive for several years, I still have 
fond memories of many of the contributors to the exchange.


Best to everyone,

Tom Ernst
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Re: [RCSE] Migrating

[TJB]

So far there seems to be 3 replacements posted.  We'll see which actually pans 
out.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] Migrating


  You mean Joe Wurts won't be able use his Gordy Soar handle any more??
Here's something to consider when "migrating" to a replacement for RCSE. 
    One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not 
cutesy-poo nam de plumes.  Let's continue that practice in what ever forum 
we wind up in.
    Jim Deck 

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Re: [RCSE] The posts that meant the most

[Mike Lachowski]

Jim, I'm trying to remember when  I might have to dig up my old MAN 
Soaring Columns or ESL newsletters to see if I can find some kind of 
date.  The oldest posts I have in my mail software are from 1996.  I 
think it goes back at least to 1994.


Jim Deck wrote:
I've been a participant of RCSE since its inception - just when did 
RCSE start, Mike?  The posts that meant the most to me were the 
messages of encouragement I received when, as I was physically unable, 
my wife posted news of my onset of Gullaine Barre Syndrome.  Those 
posts were a huge help to me at that time and during my lengthy 
recovery.  Before RCSE shuts down, I'd like to thank everyone one more 
time.

   Jim Deck
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[RCSE] YA-RCSE

[Kevin Sheen]

Yet another RCSE.

Having enjoyed RCSE for a long time, I too decided to put an alternative up to 
the group.  It is nearly identical to the original in format and function.  It 
is just a plain old e-mail list with an optional digest, and it archives the 
traffic as well.  It won't ever have any advertising (except for the 
wait-and-wail's from Gordy and others) and it isn't out there collecting data 
on you (big brother).

A web based sign up page is here:

http://www.ts3.org/mailman/listinfo/soaring

You can also sign up the old way ( I think it even speaks html e-mail for sign 
up) by sending a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


take care, Kevin


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[RCSE] The posts that meant the most

[Jim Deck]

I've been a participant of RCSE since its inception - just when did RCSE 
start, Mike?  The posts that meant the most to me were the messages of 
encouragement I received when, as I was physically unable, my wife posted 
news of my onset of Gullaine Barre Syndrome.  Those posts were a huge help 
to me at that time and during my lengthy recovery.  Before RCSE shuts down, 
I'd like to thank everyone one more time.
   Jim Deck 


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[RCSE] Volz FS

[Mark Miller]

My son Brendan has 5 Volz Maxx XP digital servos for sale. Just rebuilt by 
Gordy. New motors and amps.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=913896

Mark Miller


  
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[RCSE] Old Posts

[Mike Lachowski]

I did a quick search to see if I could find a good "Lucas" post with the 
challenge.  About 1996 vintage  Haven't found a good one yet.  Lots 
of flames though.

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[RCSE] RCSE Past Poems

[Mike Lachowski]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 15:08:05 -0500
Subject: [RCSE] A Christmas Carol

'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the 'net,
not a hard drive was whirring, it was quiet, you bet!

When out of the modem there arose such a clatter, 
I sprang to my keyboard to see what was the matter.


I booted the system and, and logged on to my sevice,
I downloaded E-mail of volumes quite perverse.

All postings were WACO, a name that's stupendous
for stating the facts in ways that offend us.

He cursed and he ranted, he call us bad names,
and he made lots of fun of our silly airplanes.
On Lucas, on Sal, on Richard, and Phil, 
on Gordon, on Daryl, on Steve and on Bill,

he piled his abuse til they all had their fill.

He's been hiding in Utah and hanging with Mormons,
designing new stuff with a big box of Crayons.

He's merry and laughing about things that aren't funny,
and he's planning a new way to take all our money.

He showed me the drawings for things quite outrageous
and he cackled and howled, he might be contageous!

I shuddered and grimaced and whimpered in fear. 
Could this be our fate for the coming New Year?


In panic I logged off to end this attack, 
and his last words still haunt me.  He said,

"I'll be back!"

- 

Merry Christmas to the Christians, Happy Hanukkah to the Jews, Muslims and 
Kwanza celebrators, enjoy the Government holidays.


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[RCSE] Old RCSE Posts

[Mike Lachowski]

From: Tom Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:09:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [RCSE] Thermal Vagrant Meets Bambi, sort of

Thermal Vagrant Meets Bambi

I have not been posting much here lately, due to the
many activities of the season--Ohio's three week deer 
season.  I've been spending about every other day out in the

woods, up in a tree, communing with nature, reading paper
backs and eating cold pop tarts.  Altogether a quality
wilderness experience.

We had a strange deer season this year.  It rained
heavily the weekend before, and then stayed relatively warm,
in the 30's and 40's, and windy.  As a result, the autumn
leaves were as soggy as a half-hour old bowl of corn flakes,
and between that and the wind, you could not hear the deer
moving.  In Ohio, you hunt mostly with your ears, since you
can't see much more than 40 or 50 yards in most of our woods.

There could have been a whole herd of deer doing the
Macarena right behind me, and I wouldn't have known it.

And then there were the left handed deer.  If you are up
in a tree stand with a shotgun or muzzle loader (our
basic choices here in Ohio) and a deer comes up on the wrong
side of your stand, it is virtually impossible to turn around
and shoot in the "left handed" direction.  I saw a lot of
left handed deer.

So, after three weeks of off and on hunting, I still
haven't fired a shot.  What did I get out of all this?

I had a nuthatch give me the hairy eyeball from six feet
up, and then proceed to bomb me with nuts.  Could have been
worse.
I got to watch a pair of Pilated Woodpeckers work over a
dead tree, throwing chips like little red-headed chainsaws.
I got to watch a young doe bound around in circles,
doing six foot leaps in a meadow, trying to figure out what I
was and what I was doing. (I was taking a leak in a groundhog
hole, holding the wrong weapon at the time.)
I had a couple of really nice naps in the woods, one on
a six foot long flat rock blanketed with heavy green moss.
(Well, why not?  My wife says I make moose calls in my
sleep.)
I observed a long, drawn out, terratorial dispute
between a fox squirrel and a gray squirrel.  The little guy
won.
I ate lunch in four different restaurants where deer
hunters are regarded as normal people.
I got to see the witch hazel flowering among the
rocks of my son's favorite lurking spot, and the bittersweet
blooming a brilliant red in the tops of a scotch pine.
I got the hell out of the office for most of three weeks!
And I found out that my clients and the world get along just
fine without me at my desk.
And I got to see a lot of deer, either from the wrong
side, or from the rear, or from 150 yards out.  Or all of the
above.

So what is the soaring connection?  Well, last summer
one of my flying buddies, Adventures With Bill Hoelcher, said
he was shocked to find out that I was both a deer hunter and
a sailplane pilot.  He said that sailplane flying was such a
peaceful and gentle sport that he didn't see how the same
person could be a deer hunter.   Then I watched Bill enter a
handlaunch contest and proceed to smash the cockpit off a
couple of other planes by circling against the crowd in a
thermal.  I gotta get him out in the woods.

And because of all the time I spent in the woods, I blew my 12 month
flyer status.  I didn't get out once in December.  Although I did scout
some nice Knox County slopes..

   _ 
   |
   Tom Nagel  /O\  Columbus, OH  
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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11598

[Ed Anderson]

RCSE has been a great asset.  I have plenty of forum type memberships.  This
was the only push/list serve membership and I liked it.  I am going to miss
it a lot!

I have joined the Google Groups  http://groups.google.com/group/rcse . I
hope to see you all over there so that the RC Soaring Exchange List Serve
can live on.  If it works much like RCSE worked, that will be great.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
LISF
>
>
> On 26-Aug-08, at 9:45 AM, Ben Wilson wrote:
>
> > Bon voyage, RCSE!  I'm surprised that a Windows NT box made it this
> > far, to tell you the truth.
> >
,,
> >
> > But which to use?  No disrespect to ModelAirplaneNews, but my choice
> > is definitely Google Groups, and here's why:
> >
> > 1. It's more accessible
> >   - Easier to use
> >   - Easier to post to (via email or web)
> >   - Easier to read - I can either get it via email, the web or plug
> > it into a news reader like the Google Reader that I already use.
> >   - Maintains that simple "push" style that drops the emails in my
> > mailbox, and I don't have to check it constantly.
> >
> > 2. It's Google
> >   - It's not going away any time soon
> >   - It will be constantly upgraded
> >
> > Obviously, I'll follow whereever most people go, but I'd prefer
> > Google :)
> >
> > Dennis wrote:
> >> I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the
> >> soon to disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further
> >> suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout.
> >> The groups homepage is:
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rcse
> >> The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> Please tell your friends and get the word out.
> >> Dennis Hoyle
> >> WMSS

>
>


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Re: [RCSE] Bozo says bye bye RCSE

[Mike Lachowski]

Someone should do a Skeeter site one of these days...


Phil Townsend wrote:

Lets not forget The Skeeter!
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Re: [RCSE] New RCSE

[Veronica Merryfield]

And there is soaring at yahoogroups.com which has been carrying this  
lists traffic for sometime. Since there are already 1383 members to  
that list and it already carried this lists traffic, it would seem a  
more natural migration. It offers both email push for those of us that  
like that as well as a web interface. It would be my choice over  
RCgroups, MAN and google groups (which seems to require a gmail  
address).



On 26-Aug-08, at 9:45 AM, Ben Wilson wrote:

Bon voyage, RCSE!  I'm surprised that a Windows NT box made it this  
far, to tell you the truth.


I'm surprised I haven't heard more griping, but it's like most of us  
on the RCSE knew that it was going to come down at some point.  It  
had a good run and definitely kept me close to the hobby when my  
focus shifted elsewhere during the off season.


But now we've got some new-fangled options out there.  RCGroups,  
this ModelAircraftNews site, and the Google Group created by Dennis  
Hoyle.
I understand al ot of the complaints about RCGroups.  I myself don't  
check in on it as much as I should - and for good reason.  It's a  
discussion based site, and cannot be used like the RCSE.  People  
check RCGroups at their leisure while the RCSE gets sent directly to  
you.  It's pull versus push, and the PUSH of the RCSE keeps people  
reading it. RCGroups excels when it comes to focused discussions on  
topics, and not news and notifications.


But now, the MAN and Google Groups systems give us the option to  
continue that conversation, but with a few new gee-gaws and gadgets,  
like uploading media files and creating pages.  Excellent  
opportunities that I think might get used quite a bit.


But which to use?  No disrespect to ModelAirplaneNews, but my choice  
is definitely Google Groups, and here's why:


1. It's more accessible
  - Easier to use
  - Easier to post to (via email or web)
  - Easier to read - I can either get it via email, the web or plug  
it into a news reader like the Google Reader that I already use.
  - Maintains that simple "push" style that drops the emails in my  
mailbox, and I don't have to check it constantly.


2. It's Google
  - It's not going away any time soon
  - It will be constantly upgraded

Obviously, I'll follow whereever most people go, but I'd prefer  
Google :)


Dennis wrote:
I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the  
soon to disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further  
suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout.

The groups homepage is:
http://groups.google.com/group/rcse
The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>

Please tell your friends and get the word out.
Dennis Hoyle
WMSS


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Re: [RCSE] Migrating

[Bill Johns]

Dennis wrote:


The groups homepage is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rcse

The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please tell your friends and get the word out.


Already joined and posed a question.

No responses yet.  :-(

Cheers

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Re: [RCSE] New RCSE

[Ben Wilson]

Bon voyage, RCSE!  I'm surprised that a Windows NT box made it this far, 
to tell you the truth.


I'm surprised I haven't heard more griping, but it's like most of us on 
the RCSE knew that it was going to come down at some point.  It had a 
good run and definitely kept me close to the hobby when my focus shifted 
elsewhere during the off season.


But now we've got some new-fangled options out there.  RCGroups, this 
ModelAircraftNews site, and the Google Group created by Dennis Hoyle. 

I understand al ot of the complaints about RCGroups.  I myself don't 
check in on it as much as I should - and for good reason.  It's a 
discussion based site, and cannot be used like the RCSE.  People check 
RCGroups at their leisure while the RCSE gets sent directly to you.  
It's pull versus push, and the PUSH of the RCSE keeps people reading it. 
RCGroups excels when it comes to focused discussions on topics, and not 
news and notifications.


But now, the MAN and Google Groups systems give us the option to 
continue that conversation, but with a few new gee-gaws and gadgets, 
like uploading media files and creating pages.  Excellent opportunities 
that I think might get used quite a bit.


But which to use?  No disrespect to ModelAirplaneNews, but my choice is 
definitely Google Groups, and here's why:


1. It's more accessible
   - Easier to use
   - Easier to post to (via email or web)
   - Easier to read - I can either get it via email, the web or plug it 
into a news reader like the Google Reader that I already use.
   - Maintains that simple "push" style that drops the emails in my 
mailbox, and I don't have to check it constantly.


2. It's Google
   - It's not going away any time soon
   - It will be constantly upgraded

Obviously, I'll follow whereever most people go, but I'd prefer Google :)

Dennis wrote:
I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon 
to disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further 
suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout.
 
The groups homepage is:
 
http://groups.google.com/group/rcse
 
The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
Please tell your friends and get the word out.
 
Dennis Hoyle

WMSS


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Re: [RCSE] "hello....is anybody out there?"

[AJ Bhatta]

Hey Gordy: 

We finally got a chance to try out the KY Horse Park field last Sat and it 
should do quite nicely. A bit of a slope, but nothing like Jacobson,  a nice 
wide open field, with a few trees. We had 630 ft of line out, and its should be 
doable in practically all directions. Lift on Sat was very good.

Congrats on the MVSA win. 

Cheers,
AJ 



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[RCSE] Re: Bozo says bye bye RCSE

[Bill Swingle]

Yep. But my favorite is still the Lucas challenge to Joe.

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Townsend 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: Soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:01 AM
  Subject: [RCSE] Bozo says bye bye RCSE


  Lets not forget The Skeeter!

RE: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Paul Sherman]

It has been a great time and many new friends found

See you all out there in the thermals beyond!!


Paul Sherman

P.S.

I need contact information for the Indiana boys as I have located a trophy 
that needs to be mailed to the new champion of the State.


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Re: [RCSE] Migrating

[Dennis]

Hi Jim, I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the 
soon to disappear RCSE. I hope this will work out well to continue the fine 
work Mike has done over the last 10 years. Google Groups has done a great 
job with filtering spam and keeping the system simple to use. Please let me 
know if you have and further suggestions.  I'm sure there will be bugs to 
workout.


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Please tell your friends and get the word out.

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
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AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Deck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "RCSE" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Migrating


Here's something to consider when "migrating" to a replacement for RCSE. 
One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not 
cutesy-poo nam de plumes.  Let's continue that practice in what ever forum 
we wind up in.

   Jim Deck
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[RCSE] Bozo says bye bye RCSE

[Phil Townsend]

Lets not forget The Skeeter!
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[RCSE] New RCSE?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to 
disappear RCSE. I hope this will work out well to continue the fine work Mike 
has done over the last 10 years. Google Groups has done a great job with 
filtering spam and keeping the system simple to use. Please let me know if you 
have and further suggestions.  I'm sure there will be bugs to workout.

The groups homepage is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rcse

The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please tell your friends and get the word out.

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
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AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org

RE: [RCSE] Migrating

[Cliff Lindgren]

But...but "Gordy Soar" was such a  cute name!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Deck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:10 AM
To: RCSE
Subject: [RCSE] Migrating

Here's something to consider when "migrating" to a replacement for RCSE. 
One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not 
cutesy-poo nam de plumes.  Let's continue that practice in what ever forum 
we wind up in.
    Jim Deck 

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RE: [RCSE] "hello....is anybody out there?"

[Cliff Lindgren]

Not to worry Gordy.  I KNOW they will NEVER be able to silence you.  It
would be impossible.  YOU WILL FIND A WAY, trust me on that one old boy.

Lucky for us,

Cliff Lindgren

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:25 PM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] "hellois anybody out there?"

 

So how will we communicate now?


As in letting everyone know about contests, for sale goodies, finding each
other during a visit?

 

Any suggestions?

 

I suppose we'll have to surf the topics, nooks and crannies of RC Antonymous
(er Groups?)

 

Or set up something on the new Blog spot.


Gordy





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Re: [RCSE] Migrating

[LJolly]

 
You mean Joe Wurts won't be able use his Gordy Soar handle any  more??

Here's  something to consider when "migrating" to a replacement for RCSE. 
One of  the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not 
cutesy-poo  nam de plumes.  Let's continue that practice in what ever forum 
we  wind up in.
Jim  Deck 

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Amen.

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[RCSE] Migrating

[Jim Deck]

Here's something to consider when "migrating" to a replacement for RCSE. 
One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not 
cutesy-poo nam de plumes.  Let's continue that practice in what ever forum 
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RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

[John Diniz]

Just sign up and join the soaring group. Add content as you wish, just
like RSCE is now.

JD

 



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Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:05 AM
To: 'Debra Cleghorn'; Soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

 

Good bye RCSE.  

 

Note the URL is http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/ 

 

Steve Siebenaler

 



From: Debra Cleghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

 

Hi everyone,

 

We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a
better & more interactive format at
http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring
<http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelair
planenews.com/group/soaring> . This blog site will allow you to continue
your RC soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos,
other media and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts.

 

We hope you enjoy these added features.

 

Sincerely,

Debra Cleghorn 

 

 

 

Debra Cleghorn

Executive editor

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203.529.4658

Air Age Media

20 Westport Road

Wilton, CT 06897 USA

 

 

Re: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

[Ricardo Rodriguez W.]

Why not create Yahoo Group named RCSE? Yahoo Groups work the same way as
RCSE does. Some of us must act as moderators to keep spam out, as a
drawback.

2008/8/26 Ed Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I paid a visit to the Blog site and registered.  Not much there and
> virtually nothing on soaring.  There are some media clips but you have to
> be
> someone's friend, apparently, in order to view them.
>
> I am an active forum user, so I will bounce around for a while to get the
> feel of the place, but so far nothing interesting.  What little I did find
> seemed oriented to powered flight.
>
> Best regards,
> Ed Anderson
> - Original Message - >
> > From:
> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM
> > To: Soaring@airage.com
> > Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
> >
> > Hi everyone,
>
> > We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a
> better
> > & more interactive format at
> > http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring
> >
> <
> http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelairplan
> > enews.com/group/soaring> . This blog site will allow you to continue
> your
> RC
> > soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other
> media
> > and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts.
> >
> > We hope you enjoy these added features.
> >
> > Sincerely,
>
> > Debra Cleghorn
> > Executive editor
> > Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter
> > 203.529.4658
> > Air Age Media
> > 20 Westport Road
> > Wilton, CT 06897 USA
>
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[RCSE] So long RCSE

[Kevin Sheen]

I haven't been on as long as some others but I too have enjoyed the banter and 
soaring fellowship for the last decade.  Much thanks to Mike, Lex and the other 
admins who have made that service so enjoyable!

I have a server and can install mailman, a piece of software that performs the 
'listserve' function.

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RE: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Sheldon Smith]

Mike,

That post must have taken place before my time on RCSE...and it was
definitely worth ALL of the "Delete Key" efforts that I've endured over the
years. What a great read...Any more out there like that, I'd sure like to
see 'em before RCSE disappears!

-Sheldon-
2008 Soaring Nationals
Head Turnaround Troll

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From: Mike Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:52 PM
To: rdwoebke; RCSE
Subject: Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

Ryan, here is the post from Dave Jones.


_
>
> The Shaggy Thermal
>
> Some time ago one of our flying friends, Jim, died. Rather sad
> really because he was such a character. It was typical of him that he
> stated in his will that he was to be buried with his Radio (fully charged)
> and his trusty Monarch HLG.
> Anyway, some few weeks later we had a seance and made contact with
> a strong presence that announced itself as Jim. He was always one to talk
> you leg off and he hadn't changed. The glass dashed madly across the board
> and nearly wore the letters out. The story that unfolded was astonishing
> and is here told and we have no way of verifying it. However here it is,
in
> full, in Jim's own words.
>
> ""I have to tell you about soaring in the after life, it's
> certainly different. The first thing that I remember was falling down for
> miles into a dark pit with my Monarch and radio clutched in my hands.
> Eventually I came to a sudden stop in a clean white marble corridor. I was
> not alone for long, a chap in an Armani suit came along and spoke to me.
> "Ah yes, Jim isn't it, welcome to our little kingdom."
> "Where am I?"
> "Oh, there is plenty of time for curiosity, all the time you want,
> but to put you in your misery this is Hades."
> "Hell!"
> "Rather an overworked image that, we prefer Hades, it's less
> threatening, and it rhymes better."
> "So who are you, the Devil."
> "There you go again, no my name is Mephistopheles, and I think
that
> you will find it more correct, politically that is, to call him the Dark
> Lord, or when you get to know him Lucifer. Now come this way."
> We walked down this never ending corridor with white marble doors
> bearing notices in white paint.
> "You know this isn't what I had in mind, it looks so clinical,
cool
> and clean."
> "Yes, good isn't it. We get a lot of corporate interior designers
> down here so we gave them a break from the Kitsch room."
> "The Kitsch room?"
> "Of course you are new here. You see we don't go in for that fire
> and brimstone stuff, very old fashioned. No, we find that it is best to
> tailor the eternal environment to the client. So we have all of the
> Interior designers living in a house with flock Paisley wallpaper, plastic
> flowers, black vinyl covered chairs, flourescent T.V's. They wear bright
nylon
> hawaian suits and plastic sandals, that sort of thing."
> "That's not so bad?"
> "It is if you are an interior designer" he said in an ominous tone
> and laughed.
> "Look here's an interesting room, we keep all the Coke heads in
here."
> He pushed open a door to a room stacked with white powder,
mirrors,
> dollar bills and razor blades. Some figures were shuffling around in the
> distance.
> "But you have given them everything that they want."
> Mephistopheles laughed.
> "Yes, everything, absolutely everything, except." He waited
> expectantly for my question.
> "Except what?"
> "Noses. Nice touch that, it was one of Lucifer's lighter moments."
> He closed the door and we walked on for hours. From time to time
> Mephistopheles would stop and open a door, it was horribly fascinating.
> There were Merchant Bankers trudging streets in ragged clothing with
> begging bowls, Heavy Metal freaks strapped to benches while Donny Osmond
> songs were played at 110 decibels, Nagging Neighbours in rooms whose walls
> were constantly being tapped, and too many more to mention now, another
> time perhaps.
> By now I was getting the idea of how the system worked and I was
> getting worried. We had reached the end of the corridor and were walking
> through a cave.
> "Oh Jim, just ignore the decor around here, we haven't modernised
> it yet."
> "What a

[RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

[Ed Anderson]

I paid a visit to the Blog site and registered.  Not much there and
virtually nothing on soaring.  There are some media clips but you have to be
someone's friend, apparently, in order to view them.

I am an active forum user, so I will bounce around for a while to get the
feel of the place, but so far nothing interesting.  What little I did find
seemed oriented to powered flight.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
- Original Message - >
> From:
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM
> To: Soaring@airage.com
> Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
>
> Hi everyone,

> We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a
better
> & more interactive format at
> http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring
>
<http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelairplan
> enews.com/group/soaring> . This blog site will allow you to continue your
RC
> soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media
> and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts.
>
> We hope you enjoy these added features.
>
> Sincerely,

> Debra Cleghorn
> Executive editor
> Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter
> 203.529.4658
> Air Age Media
> 20 Westport Road
> Wilton, CT 06897 USA


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RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

[Jack Strother]

TOO B ADToo SAD
Sorry to see you go..
if I wanted that stuff I would be on RC Groups


--
Jack Strother   
Granger, IN 

LSF 2948
LSF Level V  #117
LSF Official 1996 - 2004
CSS Gold



 -- Original message --
From: "Steve Siebenaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Good bye RCSE.  
> 
>  
> 
> Note the URL is http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/ 
> 
>  
> 
> Steve Siebenaler
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Debra Cleghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM
> To: Soaring@airage.com
> Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
> 
>  
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a better
> & more interactive format at
> http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring
> <http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelairplan
> enews.com/group/soaring> . This blog site will allow you to continue your RC
> soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media
> and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts.
> 
>  
> 
> We hope you enjoy these added features.
> 
>  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Debra Cleghorn 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Debra Cleghorn
> 
> Executive editor
> 
> Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter
> 
> 203.529.4658
> 
> Air Age Media
> 
> 20 Westport Road
> 
> Wilton, CT 06897 USA
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 


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Good bye RCSE. 


 

Note the URL is
http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/


 

Steve
Siebenaler

 









From: Debra Cleghorn
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008
11:32 AM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT
LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT



 









Hi everyone,





 





We're happy to announce that the RC
Soaring Listserve is moving to a better & more interactive format at http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring. This blog
site will allow you to continue your RC soaring
discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media and even
chat live with fellow soaring
enthusiasts.





 





We hope you enjoy these added features.





 





Sincerely,





Debra Cleghorn 





 





 





 









Debra Cleghorn





Executive editor





Model Airplane News,
Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter





203.529.4658





Air Age Media





20 Westport Road





Wilton, CT 06897 USA









 









 










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RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

[Steve Siebenaler]

Good bye RCSE.  

 

Note the URL is http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/ 

 

Steve Siebenaler

 

  _  

From: Debra Cleghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT

 

Hi everyone,

 

We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a better
& more interactive format at
http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring
<http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelairplan
enews.com/group/soaring> . This blog site will allow you to continue your RC
soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media
and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts.

 

We hope you enjoy these added features.

 

Sincerely,

Debra Cleghorn 

 

 

 

Debra Cleghorn

Executive editor

Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter

203.529.4658

Air Age Media

20 Westport Road

Wilton, CT 06897 USA

 

 

[RCSE] Model Aviation Presidents Column

[Mike Lachowski]

Looks like the Soaring Masters made this months column.  I guess our 
eMails do help...

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[RCSE] "hello....is anybody out there?"

[GordySoar]

So how will we communicate now?

As in letting everyone know about contests, for sale goodies, finding  each 
other during a visit?
 
Any suggestions?
 
I suppose we'll have to surf the topics, nooks and crannies of RC  Antonymous 
(er Groups?)
 
Or set up something on the new Blog spot.

Gordy



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[RCSE] San Diego

[Steve Schneider]

I'll be on vacation in the San Diego area starting this Saturday.  Will
there be some sloping going on at Torry Pines or else where.  I won't have a
plane with me, but I'd like to check it out.

-- 
Steve Schneider
Buffalo Grove, IL
SOAR Club

Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Mike Lachowski]

x27;s he done wrong?" The Great One asked.
"He shot down a club mate and didn't admit it."
 The Great One sucked his teeth and grimaced, not a pretty sight.
"Well I am afraid that about does it for you my boy. Just as a
matter of interest how did you get up here?"
I picked up the glider and talked them through the flight, all the
twists and turns, the tactical switches of thermal, the fast penetration
and slow circling, it took about thirty minutes. They sat down, another
beer was offered to me, they were enthralled.
"Hot Damn, that was some thermalling!" The Great One slapped his
leg, he was impressed.
"Well actually it was nothing like as tough as the thermal I had to
fly in to beat Joe Wurts."
The Great One looked at me aghast.
"You, you, you managed to beat Joe Wurts!"
"Just the once."
The Great One's face lit up, he gave me a great fatherly smile.
"That does it. Peter wipe his file. Jim, you are going to be in my
team.""

Dave Jones,
5 Wootton Rise,
Wootton Wawen
Warwickshire
B95 6BJ
England



rdwoebke wrote:

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

The time is now for the end of RCSE.





Mike, 

I wonder if you have a copy of the all time best RCSE post.  I don't 
have it and would love to have it.


It was posted sometime in 1996 or 1997.  It was a made up story, posted 
from a guy in England, where he had communicated with a dead flying 
buddy via a seance and the flying buddy had a story about going to hell 
with his glider.  It was fantastic, well written.


Ryan



  


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[RCSE] RIP RCSE

[Kevin]

Although I haven't flown competitively for 7 years, I've always subscribed to 
RCSE to find out about new technologies,  designs, etc.It's also cool to see 
what friends are doing via RCSE.  I've subscribed to RCSE for most of the years 
of its existence.Through RCSE I  learned how to how to build 'em, how to fly 
'em how to crash 'em and how to repair 'em. (With many kudos to local 
clubmembers and friends of course). I learned how to compete with dignity. I 
have learned  through RCSE and through generous input from ALL of you. I 
learned that good sense and sincere communication works better than a 
flamethrower.  I guess what I'm saying is it'll be missed. Hopefully, one or 
more of you ambitious young guys will fill the void- after all, there are just 
sometimes that nothing works better than the flamethrower... hehe  Thanks Mike 
for a great run.

Kevin Andersen
Palm Springs, CA (where it is too freakin' hot or windy to fly)

[RCSE] End of RCSE

[James MacLean]

Many thanks to AirAge,  MAN,  and Mike!  I certainly will miss RCSE as it was 
my helper and companion trying to learn about soaring.  It has been about 11 
years for me now.  I can sometimes scare my more skilled friends and have 
gotten up to LSF 4.1.  RCSE has provided me with almost all of my planes.  What 
is better are the people I think I know a little bit and the ones I have had 
the pleasure to actually fly with.  All the other groups have code words - here 
there are names and sometimes insights into the people.  For example:  Joe 
Wurts - his advice has been much appreciated and his exploits are legendary.  
He came to Orlando once and I was priviledged to fly with him and enjoy a nice 
chat over lunch.  And another example is Gordy who was at that lunch also.  
Gordy really has slept here!  We have had a lot of fun flying together.  There 
are lots of others I hope to meet sometime all thanks to RCSE. It has been 
great for me.  Thanks to you all.
Jim MacLean   Melbourne,  FL

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Lots of great how-to's are in the works.

Thanks for 10 years of support, fun, and knowledge.

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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[tony estep]

- Original Message 

From: Mike Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The time is now for the end of RCSEMaybe you can mention your favorite 
technical guru's 
discussion, flame war or Sal bashing
==
Well, this is a sad day, Mike. Although I suppose it had to happen.

I still have a file of old flame wars, name-calling, and disputes, but reading 
them now, it seems sort of gratuitous to re-post any. However, here's one 
classic.

Sal posted a gripe about Karlton in which he spelled the latter's name as 
"Charlatan." When Karlton objected, Sal said it was an innocent mistake: "...my 
spell checker didn't recognize Karlton and changed it, and I didn't notice..."

Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[David Webb]

Hrm , dumb question but why not update the server O/S?

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Mike Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The time is now for the end of RCSE.
>
> RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I can't
> even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to around
> 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is definitely not the
> oldest stuff.
>
> Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are
> happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a
> while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.
>
> The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard to
> get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been around forever
> in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even remember when it
> started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server down as soon as
> they can.  It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT server these days.
>  There are probably other security reasons to shut it down.
>
> I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.So if
> you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before it goes
> away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame
> war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by
> Lucas to Joe.
>
> Thanks for the memories.
>
>
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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Bill Swingle]

Amen brother. I heard about several great airplanes through RCSE. One of which 
is my all time favorite. Thank you John Roe for your input there.

It was a great resource!

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA

  I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss 
  it.

Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Dennis Hoyle]

I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss 
it.


Dennis Hoyle

Mike Lachowski wrote:

The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I 
can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes 
back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is 
definitely not the oldest stuff.


Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are 
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion in 
a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.


The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of 
hard to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been 
around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even 
remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the 
server down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be running a 
Windows NT server these days.  There are probably other security 
reasons to shut it down.


I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.
So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list 
before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical 
guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't 
cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.


Thanks for the memories.


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[RCSE] RIP RCSE

[jamesathomas]

Its been a great tool, its been frustrating, its had its share of great wisdom and abject stupidity.  Its time to move on, and RCG has plenty of room for the same level of intelligence, wisdom, curiosity and foolishness.  
 
RIP
 
JT

Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Bill's Email]

 So Long Old Friend

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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Chuck Anderson]

Sorry to hear that RCSE is ending soon.  RCSE is the ONLY  reason I 
still subscribe to Model Airplane News.  I feel that was the least I 
could do for giving us RCSE.  My oldest issue of MAN is dated 1947 
and I still have most issues since then.  It has been many years 
since MAN has had anything of interest to me so I will not renew my 
subscription when it expires.


MAN has been slicking up and dumbing down for years until it has sunk 
to little more than a picture magazine.  When I need something to 
read, I go to the attic and bring down a few issues of MAN, Model 
Builder, RCM, or Air Trails to read.  They are a lot more interesting 
than anything published today.  Model Builder was the last really 
interesting model magazine.


Chuck

At 04:15 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote:

The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I 
can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes 
back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that 
is definitely not the oldest stuff.


Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are 
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion 
in a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.


The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of 
hard to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been 
around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't 
even remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to 
shut the server down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be 
running a Windows NT server these days.  There are probably other 
security reasons to shut it down.


I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be 
soon.So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to 
the list before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite 
technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, 
RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.


Thanks for the memories.


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[RCSE] The End of RCSE

[Jim Deck]

A popular quote says, "All good things must come to an end".  So be it with 
RCSE.  First, a hearty thanks to the folks at Air Age  and Mike L. for their 
support.  Second, another hearty thanks to all those, known and unknown, who 
contributed to making RCSE a valuable forum whether by technical input, 
well-thought-out  contributions, or good humor.  Please continue to use your 
talents in whatever forum replaces RCSE.
   And what forum on RC Groups will replace it?  "Sailplane Talk" or 
"Thermal" - perhaps there ought to be an "RCSE" group there?
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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Veronica Merryfield]

Bill et al

There is a group RCSE at yahoo groups. I was thinking the same and  
wondering about creating a group and found that one.


I like yahoogroups since I can get the forum as email but it does  
allow web viewing for those that prefer it.


Veronica


On 25-Aug-08, at 2:38 PM, Bill Swingle wrote:

OK, I understand the motives for shutting RCSE down. 10 years is a  
long stretch in internet lingo.


Thanks to Mike for all his efforts in opperating it.

So, the burning question now is Where shall we go? Seriously, I not  
savy on what's out there.


(and let's not tell Gordy)

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


- Original Message - From: Mike Lachowski
To: RCSE
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE


The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I  
can't

even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to
around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is
definitely not the oldest stuff.

Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion  
in a

while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.

The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of  
hard

to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been around
forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even  
remember

when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server
down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be running a Windows  
NT
server these days.  There are probably other security reasons to  
shut it

down.

I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon. 
So

if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before
it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's
discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't cover the
infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.

Thanks for the memories.


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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Bill Swingle]

OK, I understand the motives for shutting RCSE down. 10 years is a long 
stretch in internet lingo.


Thanks to Mike for all his efforts in opperating it.

So, the burning question now is Where shall we go? Seriously, I not savy on 
what's out there.


(and let's not tell Gordy)

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Lachowski

To: RCSE
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE


The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I can't
even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to
around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is
definitely not the oldest stuff.

Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a
while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.

The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard
to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been around
forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even remember
when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server
down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT
server these days.  There are probably other security reasons to shut it
down.

I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.So
if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before
it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's
discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't cover the
infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.

Thanks for the memories.


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[RCSE] Good bye RCE, and thanks for brining us all a little closer together...

[mike]

I guess all good things must come to an end.
 
I for one appreciate all of the interaction that RCSE has afforded us over the years.  I feel like I got to know some people through RCSE far better than if it had not be available as a forum for us.
 
Good, bad, interesting, dull, exciting, or Gordy!  It was all good.
 
Bye RCSE.  
 
I will miss this forum.
 
Mike Smith
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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Marc Gellart]

Well Mike, this is not a surprise in my book, but RCSE has been a great web 
cornerstone for a lot of years for RC soaring.  I will admit that I spend a 
fair amount of time on RCGroups, and the pics and all are great.  There is a 
lot of gobbledygook there just like there has been the same here, I guess it is 
just the web and the fact that folks can say about anything and they do, like 
some of our favorite filers have done here.  To those that supplied RCSE to us 
and as in your case oversaw it's activities and maintenance, Thank You and Joe 
very much!

Marc
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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[John Roe]

Thank you for many, many things learned and much entertainment.

I haven't flown R/C seriously in 8 years, but still follow RCSE.

I will treasure my RCSE beer bottles

JR

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[RCSE] Graupner Elektro Junior Wanted

[twodarlings]

Does anyone out there have a new version of the Graupner Elektro Junior they 
brought back from Europe, and would be willing to part with?  Hobby Lobby 
doesn't carry them and they don't seem interested in  stocking them.  This 
is the one  made with the Elapor-like material, T-tail and comes with 
folding prop, spinner and brushless motor,  and a fake carbon canopy. 
Please respond off the list directly to me.

Thanks a bunch!
Dave Darling
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[RCSE] Re: Gordy for President ?

[schrederman]

I personally just want a box to check for - None of the above, please
start over, none of the former candidates need reapply. How many votes
do you think that would get?

Sorry Gordy, but you wouldn't vote for me, either... :D


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[RCSE] Re: What the heck???

[schrederman]

Sooo is it Stahl/Strother on the ticket? Or has Gordy not named his
running mate yet?


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[RCSE] Gordy for President ?

[Hoot]

1.  The Airforce will be required to fly all planes of every type
inverted to check each aircraft's CG.

2.  The Boy and Girl Scouts will be disbanded so all kids can start
their LSF levels.

3.  International squirmishes will be replaced with man on man flyoffs
with TWO popoffs allowed !

4.  The President's cabinet will be disbanded.  Gordy doesn't need
advisors !

5.  The White house will be repainted a 'Volz' blue.

6.  And you ?.

S Gibson


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[RCSE] Re: What the heck???

[jsmillett]

Are these the same people that agree to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide?  

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/013117.html  

Jerry


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[RCSE] Re: For Sale - Icon Lite

[tigroot]

Per Chris, It's been sold.
Bob


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[RCSE] Re: Removing old covering, more info

[schrederman]

I used a lot of silkspan and Jap tissue on my Nordics and Wakefield
models. If I was going to recover the thing, I used 320 or 400 sandpaper
and sanded through it down to the wood. That way I didn't remove enough
wood to change things, and it went slow enough as to not mess things up.
I've done the same with Monokote on very delicate parts, like thin
rudders and stabs. Takes a while but the results are good.


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RE: [RCSE] Removing ols covering

[Kurt Zimmerman]

What is the model anyway?  The only kit that I knew had bamboo was
something like an Antic.

 



Kurt

 

From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:27 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Removing ols covering

 

I think Kurt Z. figired it out It's silkspan and its painted with
Hobby-Poxy. That's why lacquer thinner removes a little of the paint but
does nothing to soften it. Although it does come off the bamboo
rather nicely 

So I guess I'm going to have to use the two 20 year old cuties as Brian
Chan suggested :-))) 

Actually I have a friend who has some 6' long 8" wide sanding belts. I'm
going to glue them to my work table and make one big ass sanding
block... 

RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info

[Kurt Zimmerman]

Dope based??  could be silk-span.Find yourself a container of dope
thinners to start.  You will find that any dope-based finish be it
silk-span, tissue or silk can be stripped quite easily.  The previous
post works for the most part.  You should be able to soften any stubborn
areas with the dope thinners.  

 

Good luck

 



Kurt

 

From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:50 AM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info

 

It's hard to tell what type of covering it is... It's over 40 years old
so it can't be any type of iron on,  Its not silk, but does apear to be 
dope based

Craig

RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering

[Kurt Zimmerman]

Craig;

You haven't specified what type of covering it is.  If
it is Monokote I've been through this procedure many times before.  

 

1)  I start off by stripping off as much of the covering by hand.

2)  Using a #11 exacto I pick as much as I can being  careful not to
gouge the wood underneath.

3)  Any stubborn areas I simply sand off with 100 grit dry.  

 

 



Kurt

 

From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:02 AM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Removing old covering

 

I have some 40 year old covering to remove. Any suggestions on how?

Craig

[RCSE] "Okay you guys, step up and be a MENTOR..its your turn to DO something great!"

[GordySoar]

Hi Guys,
 
Our young guys are our future...But put yourself at their age...did you  have 
cash for a moldie or any kind of competition sailplane?
 
I know you guys are sitting on flyable Superiors, dinged and dented  Escapes, 
Sharons, and the likeyou have some fantasy of 'selling' them but in  fact 
know that you'd never be happy with what someone would give for them...so  
why not get TOP buck for them?

GIVE them to a young sailplaner !  They can't come to the field  with out 
ships..and flying a woodie Aspire or Genital Lady is fine for play but  for 
competing?
 
Look  into your basements and your hearts... I can name a few guys who  have 
anty'd wayyy up to get Lee going..and he won Mid South (Junior but only a  few 
points off old guy :-).
 
Post your donations to me, and I'll try to mate them in the right  
direction...if they need tail boom repairs or maybe a good wing ding  
fixthat's part 
of the hobby. And no don't go stripping those old servos  out... come on, be 
a man, be a friend, be a mentor.
 
Gordy



**It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.  
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[RCSE] "Anyone have a right Superior Wing Tip for One of Our Youngsters?"

[GordySoar]

Hi guys,
 
One of our youngsters got tangled in a mid air this past weekend in St  
Louie...the wing tip is pretty much trashed.
 
I thought I had a dinged spare but turns out its a Perfect tip.
 
I'll pay shipping if someone is willing to donate a tip.

Thanks
Gordy



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Re: [RCSE] Icon 2

[David Webb]

I was not aware that there was an Icon 2 poem contest.

This is a good start.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Phil Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Icon 2
> I never have won a contest...
> I never fly contests...
> There is nothing  that I wish to contest.
> I fly for the pure fun of it and nothing less.
> Good toys are very rare... and time is short...
> Icon2
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> Phil
> Santa Fe
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[RCSE] Wanted Extra Large Wing Bag 65" Plus

[Michael Morjoseph]

Extra Large Wing Bag 65" Plus
I am Looking for a Nice Wing Bag that is for
a 3.7 Sharon Pro the Center Panel is almost 65"
so I need a Wing Bag at least this long or longer
Bag Lady Van Gundy Etc
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[RCSE] BSS Mid-Am OVSS #7

[AJ Bhatta]

Juat a reminder that the BSS Mid Am (OVSS #7) will be held at the Kentucky 
Horse Park Campgrounds Sept 5th (RES/open winch), 6th and 7th (UNL/ MOM). The 
campgrounds has some nice facilities for both RV hookups and primitive camping 
sites as well, including a store and other facilities. Please go to 

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=909457

for further details. This is an AMA Sanctioned Event.
BSS, KY

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[RCSE] Icon 2

[Phil Townsend]

Icon 2
I never have won a contest...
I never fly contests...
There is nothing  that I wish to contest.
I fly for the pure fun of it and nothing less.
Good toys are very rare... and time is short...
Icon2

Phil
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[Craig Allen]

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[RCSE] Sincere Apology.....

[Craig Allen]

As some of you are aware I fell from a second story balcony and broke my back a 
few years ago. This left me in incredible pain that was managed by various 
prescription drugs, physical therapy, and exercises..

That was until the Workman's comp insurance company cut off all my benefits and 
medical coverage about a year ago. 

I have been self-medicating myself with Alcohol ( Polish Vodka) ever since... I 
now realize I have a big problem and will be entering rehab tomorrow.. 

I want to apologize to all of you who I have offended and been a complete 
asshole too..And a special apology and thank you to Don Peters who's sincere 
email made me realize how big a problem I have, and what a total dick I have 
becomeAnd to Gordy who tried to help me.

Once again I'm
 truly sorry for my behavior. But the hardest thing to face is my Dad... 
I'm so so sorry Dad i feel like a  total failure and an 
Idiot

Sincerely 

Craig

Re: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??

[rmong]

I'm ok with this so long as he doesn't show up on Mt. Rushmore !

- Crazy Horse may be more appropriate -   :-)

Ron Mong 
  - Original Message - 
  From: TG Bean 
  To: SJG ; RCSoaring Exchange 
  Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:30 PM
  Subject: RE: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??


  1. Gordy will require a landing task to decide who is cabinet will be. (He 
may not need advisors, but he DOES need someone to keep an eye on him)
  2. All press confrences will be timed with a talking timer and he will end 
them all promptly..to get maximum points.
  3. Teddy Roosevelt used to challenge foreign heads of state to a boxing match 
to settle issues, Gordy will require a fly off and he will make the foregin 
heads of state use the world's heaviest Supra against his Ava. Calm conditions 
only, off of a high start. Gordy likes the edge.
  4. Finally Gordy will have all of the trees around the white house removed so 
he can launch from the front lawn. 



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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: soaring@airage.com
  Subject: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??
  Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:24:20 -0500



  1.  The Airforce will be required to fly all planes of every type inverted to 
check each aircraft's CG.

  2.  The Boy and Girl Scouts will be disbanded so all kids can start their LSF 
levels.

  3.  International squirmishes will be replaced with man on man flyoffs with 
TWO popoffs allowed !

  4.  The President's cabinet will be disbanded.  Gordy doesn't need advisors !

  5.  The White house will be repainted a 'Volz' blue.

  6.  And you ?.

  S Gibson 




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[RCSE] "I had to leave the Gateway to Campaign!"

[GordySoar]

The St Louis guys have done it again!  A fantastic two days of  
soaring...today the air was a lot tougher with the first round a 12min!
 
10's to follow.
 
She who must be obeyed called to remind me that part of this weekend's trip  
was to spend time with Louisville to St Louis transplants...so my chain was  
yanked.
 
Everybody took some time hits, my goal was to get some contest flights on  my 
High EndI was able to get in three rounds and the air changed from one to 
 the other so it was a good test.
 
I love it...its a lander for sure. I'm not using a skeg, but stuck two and  
slid thru one...77 being the lowest...but I have a lot of putzing to do to get  
the landing comp tuned.
 
Chris Lee was flying tough when I left and so was Ron Kukral (sp?)
 
Hope their day went great...Me? Apparently I have to get do some campaign  
planning :-)
Gordy



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RE: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??

[TG Bean]

1. Gordy will require a landing task to decide who is cabinet will be. (He may 
not need advisors, but he DOES need someone to keep an eye on him)
2. All press confrences will be timed with a talking timer and he will end them 
all promptly..to get maximum points.
3. Teddy Roosevelt used to challenge foreign heads of state to a boxing match 
to settle issues, Gordy will require a fly off and he will make the foregin 
heads of state use the world's heaviest Supra against his Ava. Calm conditions 
only, off of a high start. Gordy likes the edge.
4. Finally Gordy will have all of the trees around the white house removed so 
he can launch from the front lawn. 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??Date: 
Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:24:20 -0500



1.  The Airforce will be required to fly all planes of every type inverted to 
check each aircraft's CG.
 
2.  The Boy and Girl Scouts will be disbanded so all kids can start their LSF 
levels.
 
3.  International squirmishes will be replaced with man on man flyoffs with TWO 
popoffs allowed !
 
4.  The President's cabinet will be disbanded.  Gordy doesn't need advisors !
 
5.  The White house will be repainted a 'Volz' blue.
 
6.  And you ?.
 
S Gibson 
 
 
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