Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
For what it is worth, In the latest Model Airplane News (May), page84, the President of Sanwa states Stylus users will be rewarded for their loyalty with a 2.4GHz module receiver option Clarence Albert E. Wedworth wrote: Hi guys I find it kinda silly that all of you converts using 2.4 need instructions to install a receiver in a plane Can't have Carbon/Kevlar in your fuse, drilling holes in a fuse so the silly little antennas wiskers stick out just to find it didn't work, data loggers. ( just pure silliness ) Also while all of you folks are wasting you cash on some radio that doesn't compare to the Stylus in any way shape or form or can't do the things that sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes and flying! Not wondering where to put the silly little whisker antennas or if the install gona work in my TOY sailplane. The Best part is I won't have to worry about all you guys on my channel (; = ! I fly on 72 meg's and I don't need instructions. Also I WON'T be using 2.4 in the future either! I like my Airtronics Stylus radio and see no need to change EVER! Loving 72 meg on ch 51 Al In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -George Orwell-
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The obvious good location would be in the fin since they are usually fiberglass above the stab. There is a limit to how long the aux reciever extension There was a thread in RCGroups recently that showed how sattellite receivers were mounted at fin and at the wingtips. It would be nice to have a plane with sattellite receivers preinstalled during manufacturing. Like in some high-end planes the wing servos are installed during the molding process. regards, Arne RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Hi guys I find it kinda silly that all of you converts using 2.4 need instructions to install a receiver in a plane Can't have Carbon/Kevlar in your fuse, drilling holes in a fuse so the silly little antennas wiskers stick out just to find it didn't work, data loggers. ( just pure silliness ) Also while all of you folks are wasting you cash on some radio that doesn't compare to the Stylus in any way shape or form or can't do the things that sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes and flying! Not wondering where to put the silly little whisker antennas or if the install gona work in my TOY sailplane. The Best part is I won't have to worry about all you guys on my channel (; = ! I fly on 72 meg's and I don't need instructions. Also I WON'T be using 2.4 in the future either! I like my Airtronics Stylus radio and see no need to change EVER! Loving 72 meg on ch 51 Al In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -George Orwell-
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Quiet Al! Let them go! We'll be better off with out them. Well, that is until we join them. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Wow that's a silly post and I fly with a stylus as well. Besides the cool feature of anyone on channel 51 being able to take you out nice and quick what features are you thinking you get that someone on a JR or Futaba 2.4 does not? I flew a friends 9303 last year. He had everything I needed. Laucnh, reflex, camber, delay, full mixingall this and his radio did not weight 14 pounds like my stylus...Not an issue unless yo also fly DLG's like I do as well. I like the right and left sliders for camber and reflex on my stylus thats unique... no wait i think i see a tab on the back of the Futaba faast system...what am I missing? On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quiet Al! Let them go! We'll be better off with out them. Well, that is until we join them. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Al, You had me right up tell you said Stylus I thought your parents raised you better Al :-) Now if you had said Futaba 9C... One. I would of made $1 and two, you would of shown how smart you are :- A Stylus up against a Futaba is kind of like Dos up against Mac Very Ugly :- Craig. Long Live 72 :-) 42 years of using it and no problems yet The financial crisis is kind of like people swimming nude in the ocean... You don't know how ugly it is tell the tides gone out... And then its very very ugly... Warren Buffet Albert E. Wedworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys I find it kinda silly that all of you converts using 2.4 need instructions to install a receiver in a plane Can't have Carbon/Kevlar in your fuse, drilling holes in a fuse so the silly little antennas wiskers stick out just to find it didn't work, data loggers. ( just pure silliness ) Also while all of you folks are wasting you cash on some radio that doesn't compare to the Stylus in any way shape or form or can't do the things that sailplanes need to do. I'm buying planes and flying! Not wondering where to put the silly little whisker antennas or if the install gona work in my TOY sailplane. The Best part is I won't have to worry about all you guys on my channel (; = ! I fly on 72 meg's and I don't need instructions. Also I WON'T be using 2.4 in the future either! I like my Airtronics Stylus radio and see no need to change EVER! Loving 72 meg on ch 51 Al In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -George Orwell-
[RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Ben Clerx and others have gone all 2.4. I'd certainly appreciate it if he (they) would share the specifics of their installations. For me, particularly, in the Organic and in a TabooGt, if possible. Larry Jolly showed me his installation in a Blaster2. Anyone else out there with successful real life installations who will share the information? Robert Samuels . St. Louis _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/
[RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Hi Robert, Installation is pretty simple, but ground range testing is important. Follow the instructions. My tips below are for JR systems with aux receivers (satelite receivers). In a DLG with a CF fuselage, simply poke the antenna through the sides of the fuselage. You mentioned Larry Jolly described his Blaster installation. I'm assuming he did something similar. For sailplanes with slip-on nose cones: Most, if not all nose cones are fiberglass (as is the fuselage forward of the aft edge of the nose cone). Put your receiver and aux receiver in the nose. Range check while walking a complete circle around the plane, looking for loss of signal. A logger is useful. For CF fuselages: Poke the main receiver antenna through the sides. Even if only half of each antenna protrudes, that should be fine. If you have a CF D-tube wing, you can place the aux receiver near the flap servo. I did this install with Joe Rodriguez's plane and it worked great (with good logger numbers). With a full CF wing: You can put the aux receiver in the nose and poke the antenna out. You can also mount it to the underside of the canopy and poke the antenna outside. I've heard you might still be able to place the aux receiver in the flap servo pocket since the CF is pretty thin, but I've never done this and don't have any info to back up this claim. Likewise, you might be able to mount the aux receiver in the fuselage, behind the tow hook, if the fuselage is a CF/kevlar weave (lots of RF holes). But again, I haven't tried this or taken any measurements or data points. In both these cases, the main receiver should still have its antenna poked out the sides of the fuselage. Keep in mind that the aux receiver usually does 75% of the work since the main receiver is often blocked in between the battery and servos. This becomes more of a factor for a fiberglass nose since the antenna will tend to be enclosed in the fuselage. A CF nose would have the antenna poked outside and be more visible to the transmitter from a nose-on or tail-on postion. I crammed everything into the nose on my Zenith and Eraser (both have FG nose cones and CF aft of the nose), and have had no problems. Small changes in antenna position can make a big difference in reception. Thats why it's important to do a good initial ground range check. Having a logger in place for the first few flights is helpful to confirm your range checks. Larry moved an aux receiver in his Danny by about an inch (it was in an obviously poor, but convenient, location) and that small move improved reception dramatically. The obvious good location would be in the fin since they are usually fiberglass above the stab. There is a limit to how long the aux reciever extension lead can be (I think its around 36 inches) which might preclude placing it in the fin. I believe the limit is due to voltage drop considerations. I might try a longer than recommended lead and see if there are any problems associated with that. Its not magic---just a little common sense and range checking. Hope this helps. Ben Clerx ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
RE: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Robert, Indeed, it is common sense and testing that makes a successful 2.4 GHz implementation. I converted my first plane into 2.4GHz last Saturday and flew it on Sunday without any problems. I installed a JR AR9000 and a remote receiver in the pod of my Arrow DLG. Although, the installation was simple since I had a fiberglass pod to work with, I still used the glitch counter after the initial setup and the first few flights to ensure all was well. After that I stopped worrying about it and flew for the rest of the day. After spending three hours flying pretty much non-stop to extreme altitudes and distances (really wanted to know if it worked!), I had a few fades, tons of fun and the confidence that I would not be taken down by someone on the same channel if I were on my standard 72MHz frequency. Try it - you just may like it! ;) Regards, Joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:33 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to? Hi Robert, Installation is pretty simple, but ground range testing is important. Follow the instructions. My tips below are for JR systems with aux receivers (satelite receivers). In a DLG with a CF fuselage, simply poke the antenna through the sides of the fuselage. You mentioned Larry Jolly described his Blaster installation. I'm assuming he did something similar. For sailplanes with slip-on nose cones: Most, if not all nose cones are fiberglass (as is the fuselage forward of the aft edge of the nose cone). Put your receiver and aux receiver in the nose. Range check while walking a complete circle around the plane, looking for loss of signal. A logger is useful. For CF fuselages: Poke the main receiver antenna through the sides. Even if only half of each antenna protrudes, that should be fine. If you have a CF D-tube wing, you can place the aux receiver near the flap servo. I did this install with Joe Rodriguez's plane and it worked great (with good logger numbers). With a full CF wing: You can put the aux receiver in the nose and poke the antenna out. You can also mount it to the underside of the canopy and poke the antenna outside. I've heard you might still be able to place the aux receiver in the flap servo pocket since the CF is pretty thin, but I've never done this and don't have any info to back up this claim. Likewise, you might be able to mount the aux receiver in the fuselage, behind the tow hook, if the fuselage is a CF/kevlar weave (lots of RF holes). But again, I haven't tried this or taken any measurements or data points. In both these cases, the main receiver should still have its antenna poked out the sides of the fuselage. Keep in mind that the aux receiver usually does 75% of the work since the main receiver is often blocked in between the battery and servos. This becomes more of a factor for a fiberglass nose since the antenna will tend to be enclosed in the fuselage. A CF nose would have the antenna poked outside and be more visible to the transmitter from a nose-on or tail-on postion. I crammed everything into the nose on my Zenith and Eraser (both have FG nose cones and CF aft of the nose), and have had no problems. Small changes in antenna position can make a big difference in reception. Thats why it's important to do a good initial ground range check. Having a logger in place for the first few flights is helpful to confirm your range checks. Larry moved an aux receiver in his Danny by about an inch (it was in an obviously poor, but convenient, location) and that small move improved reception dramatically. The obvious good location would be in the fin since they are usually fiberglass above the stab. There is a limit to how long the aux reciever extension lead can be (I think its around 36 inches) which might preclude placing it in the fin. I believe the limit is due to voltage drop considerations. I might try a longer than recommended lead and see if there are any problems associated with that. Its not magic---just a little common sense and range checking. Hope this helps. Ben Clerx ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
