Re: [soaring] [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 14.57, Chuck Anderson wrote: Been using the Sirius Charge for 10 years now on both nicads and nimh batteries without a single problem. I endorse everything George Joy says about his equipment. I can only say: Ditto! Tord RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
Question for today What happens if you charge a NMH battery with a NiCad charger? What happens if you charge a NiCad battery with a NMH charger? If you use the wrong charger does it do any damage to the battery pack? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:57:14AM -0800, Jack Suder wrote: | Question for today | | What happens if you charge a NMH battery with a NiCad charger? Western civilization as we know it fails. Some will argue that this has already happened. | What happens if you charge a NiCad battery with a NMH charger? Eastern civilization as we know it fails. Again, some feel that this has already happened. | If you use the wrong charger does it do any damage to the battery pack? Seriously, the difference between how NiMH and NiCd batteries are peak charged is that NiMH cells have a smaller peak. So if you use a NiCd charger on NiMH cells, it may `miss' the peak and keep charging even after it's full. Or it may not -- it depends on how sensitive it is. Overcharging at a high rate is definately very bad, and will destroy the pack quickly. If you use a NiMH charger on NiCd cells, the peak will be larger, so it'll probably be just fine, though it might stop before the battery is completely charged. Most NiMH chargers work fine with NiCd batteries too. Everything I just said is about peak chargers. If you're talking about a slow charger, the sort where it just puts C/10 or so into the battery, nothing bad will happen. NiMH cells will probably take longer to charge, having more capacity and a higher self discharge rate, but beyond that there's no issues. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nine out of ten doctors agree that one out of ten doctors is an idiot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
Jack, The problem here is NiMH cells, nothing will happen to NiCd cells, in fact a NiMH charger is better for the NiCd cells than is a NiCd charger because it has a more sensitive overvoltage detect. All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is the number one killer of ALL batteries. The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. Smooth Landings George At 09:57 AM 1/24/2005 -0800, Jack Suder wrote: Question for today What happens if you charge a NMH battery with a NiCad charger? What happens if you charge a NiCad battery with a NMH charger? If you use the wrong charger does it do any damage to the battery pack? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 12:57:13PM -0700, George Joy wrote: | All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, | in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is | the number one killer of ALL batteries. | The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the | market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. | If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery | maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. You wouldn't happen to be related to the George Joy that's the President of Peak Electronics, who bought Sirius Electronics a while back, would you? :) -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to have a handle on life, but it broke. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
I believe he is one and the same. I admit he seems a little prejudiced here, but we have a man that believes in what he sells and stands behind his product. I wish I had some of his chargers. I will have just as soon as I get tired of these peak chargers killing my packs. That won't be long, I'm almost there already. Ed Jett - Original Message - From: Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: George Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jack Suder [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 12:57:13PM -0700, George Joy wrote: | All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, | in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is | the number one killer of ALL batteries. | The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the | market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. | If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery | maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. You wouldn't happen to be related to the George Joy that's the President of Peak Electronics, who bought Sirius Electronics a while back, would you? :) -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to have a handle on life, but it broke. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 12:57:13PM -0700, George Joy wrote: | All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, | in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is | the number one killer of ALL batteries. | The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the | market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. | If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery | maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. You wouldn't happen to be related to the George Joy that's the President of Peak Electronics, who bought Sirius Electronics a while back, would you? :) Don't tell me there is another George Joy!! -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
At 03:12 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote: I believe he is one and the same. I admit he seems a little prejudiced here, but we have a man that believes in what he sells and stands behind his product. I wish I had some of his chargers. I will have just as soon as I get tired of these peak chargers killing my packs. That won't be long, I'm almost there already. Ed Jett Been using the Sirius Charge for 10 years now on both nicads and nimh batteries without a single problem. I endorse everything George Joy says about his equipment. Chuck Anderson. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
